Trey Gowdy on Obama’s power grabs: “How does going from being a senator to a president re-write the Constitution?”

posted at 11:21 am on March 13, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via the Blaze, a postscript to the White House’s threat to veto Gowdy’s bill demanding faithful enforcement of laws like ObamaCare, warts and all. Simple question from Gowdy, who came armed with quotes from the golden days of Hopenchange: Would Senator Obama have supported the bill? The answer is even simpler: It depends on whether doing so would have helped him electorally or not. That’s the only real consideration, and remains the only real consideration to this day. As a fledgling presidential candidate up against the Clinton machine, O knew he had an opening on the left among liberals who were suspicious of the Clintons’ centrist credentials. He figured he could build a base there by telling them what they wanted to hear, so he did — George Bush was an executive run amok whose signing statements were an affront to the Constitution. They liked the sound of that, just as they liked what he had to say about the perils of drone warfare and the surveillance state. Ahem. Six years later, Democrats don’t care much about executive power grabs in defense of their party’s agenda, so neither does O. That’s my one criticism of Gowdy, Jonathan Turley, and nearly everyone else who’s been hammering him lately for endangering separation of powers. It should be noted more often that he’s responding to the political incentives set for him by others.

Gowdy’s bill passed the House yesterday, by the way, as did another Republican bill demanding stricter enforcement. Five Democrats voted for the former and just two for the latter. The only one in both groups was Nick Rahall, whose home state of West Virginia is increasingly red, whose last two House elections have been much closer than they used to be, and who’s even taken lately to describing himself as more of a Bush supporter than an Obama fan. Good luck in November, buddy.



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Picture in your mind that he w/b GWB doing all this.

Schadenfreude on March 13, 2014 at 1:44 PM

I don’t think we need to ‘picture’ the Bush admin pushing the limits of executive power.
Though I think we would need to picture Gowdy having an objection to it then.

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 1:54 PM

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Is he above the law? (yes or no)

With Whom would it be more important to abide the law – the President or US lowly citizens?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Is he above the law? (yes or no)

With Whom would it be more important to abide the law – the President or US lowly citizens?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM

No.
Now answer my question:

What do you think Obama will do in response to a SCOTUS ruling on the NLRB case?
Do you think he will or will not abide by their decision?

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 2:00 PM

And just think. Shiela Jackson-Lee negates his vote.

cptacek on March 13, 2014 at 11:28 AM

This comment completely ruined my day. I live in Houston – she’s a disgrace to the state of Texas.

Michh on March 13, 2014 at 2:02 PM

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 1:47 PM

It is very simple. He broke the law. He will suffer no penalty for having done so. Therefore as a practical matter, he is above the law (remember? that is the very first thing I said to you).

MJBrutus on March 13, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Verbie, Gowdy did say that this goes for any ruler. Be careful what you argue for.

Schadenfreude on March 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM

I don’t think we need to ‘picture’ the Bush admin pushing the limits of executive power.
Though I think we would need to picture Gowdy having an objection to it then.

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Is that all that matters to you? You keep tearing down this Republic even though you don’t realize it. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, in your eyes. If you don’t think they will come for you because “your” guy is in office, you need to read some history books. The whole entire system is out of control and you want to argue semantics. Good luck with that.

Deckard BR on March 13, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Is he above the law? (yes or no)

With Whom would it be more important to abide the law – the President or US lowly citizens?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM

No.

Then he should be impeached then.

Now answer my question:

What do you think Obama will do in response to a SCOTUS ruling on the NLRB case?
Do you think he will or will not abide by their decision?

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 2:00 PM

It depends on whether it’s politically expedient for him to do so.

I readily admit that I can’t predict his future actions – sorry.

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 2:13 PM

verbaluce, you are assuming that everyone cares only about political advantage. I do not believe that is so. I still believe that not every president or senator, or congressman is willing to flaunt the U,S. Constitution for political gain. If they do, we no longer live in a constitutional republic. We may as well be living in Russia or Venezuela. Is Trey Gowdy sincere? Based upon his history, I believe so. If it were Harry Reid, not so much.

Techster64 on March 13, 2014 at 2:16 PM

MJBrutus on March 13, 2014 at 2:03 PM

So, bottom line: The rule of law is no more.

So we the people could just have a voice vote to remove him to the nearest federal pen, right?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Either that or win enough elections to have him impeached and convicted. That is the only remedy that the law provides.

MJBrutus on March 13, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Now there you go contradicting yourself – in one instance you say that some are above the law and thus there is no rule of law.

And then you go an invoke the rule of law…..

Which ways is it?

Please resolve your abject contradiction for everyone.

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Obama, like Kim Jung Un, will devise, rewrite or enforce laws as he sees fit. The Constitution is a nice piece of paper, but not binding on this President. Obama will decide the needs of the people; how to persecute those that disagree with him; or the extent to which he wants to go in his agenda.

leader4hru on March 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 2:18 PM

It’s official You have nothing to say and only want to waste my time. You had a good run but time is up. I await your passive-aggressive retort.

MJBrutus on March 13, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Heh

Schadenfreude on March 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Since we all know this sets a precedent (something past legislators understood) I really wonder if the Democrats are prepared to give a President Palin or a President Gingrich the same power? No need to answer, I already know it, but the point is that once this precedent is set it’s going to be difficult to reign in the next President, now matter who it is.

bflat879 on March 13, 2014 at 2:26 PM

“How does going from being a senator to a president re-write the Constitution?”

The way Obama did it?

PersonFromPorlock on March 13, 2014 at 2:28 PM

What do you think Obama will do in response to a SCOTUS ruling on the NLRB case?
Do you think he will or will not abide by their decision?

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 2:00 PM

It depends on whether it’s politically expedient for him to do so.

I readily admit that I can’t predict his future actions – sorry.

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Cop out of an answer.
You know he will indeed abide by the decision, but acknowledging that would’ve bent your narrative.
Of course if he resembled at all the caricature you paint of him, he would dismiss the ruling and have the Justices arrested.
But ok, sure…we’ll see.

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 2:32 PM

I don’t think we need to ‘picture’ the Bush admin pushing the limits of executive power.
Though I think we would need to picture Gowdy having an objection to it then.

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Is that all that matters to you? You keep tearing down this Republic even though you don’t realize it. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, in your eyes. If you don’t think they will come for you because “your” guy is in office, you need to read some history books. The whole entire system is out of control and you want to argue semantics. Good luck with that.

Deckard BR on March 13, 2014 at 2:11 PM

I didn’t bring up Bush. Someone else did and I responded.
Not semantics…context.

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 2:35 PM

So, bottom line: The rule of law is no more.

So we the people could just have a voice vote to remove him to the nearest federal pen, right?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Either that or win enough elections to have him impeached and convicted. That is the only remedy that the law provides.

MJBrutus on March 13, 2014 at 1:30 PM

MJBrutus on March 13, 2014 at 2:22 PM

What’s the problem?

Can’t address your abject contradictions?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Is he above the law? (yes or no)

With Whom would it be more important to abide the law – the President or US lowly citizens?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 2:00 PM

BTW, where did you get your crystal ball that fills you in on Obama’s future actions?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 2:40 PM

BTW, where did you get your crystal ball that fills you in on Obama’s future actions?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 2:40 PM

It’s a free app on the Obama phones.

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Do you think he will or will not abide by their decision?

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 2:00 PM

I don’t think he will. There have been other court decisions he has ignored.

cptacek on March 13, 2014 at 2:51 PM

It should be noted more often that he’s responding to the political incentives set for him by others.

I think he’s always manipulated the political incentives of others for his own purposes.

INC on March 13, 2014 at 2:54 PM

I’m waiting for someone in Congress to us the Louis XIV quote that was mentioned in a thread yesterday: L’État, c’est moi, I am the state.

Either that or start talking about Lex Rex, the Law is King, and not Lex Rex, the King is the Law.

INC on March 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM

BTW, where did you get your crystal ball that fills you in on Obama’s future actions?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 2:40 PM

It’s a free app on the Obama phones.

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 2:47 PM

In others, you’re just spouting another load of BS..

Now since we’ve dispensed with you distraction, please answer my other question you keep on dodging:

With Whom would it be more important to abide the law – the President or US lowly citizens?

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 3:00 PM

It’s a free app on the Obama phones.

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Do they have an Obama bucket for carrying his water?

oldroy on March 13, 2014 at 3:00 PM

The fact is the proposed bill is not constitutional. You can’t correct a breach in the law by creating a new one.

Unfortunately, most of these breaches by Obama will take years of litigation to overturn, and most will also be rendered moot by the next President on his first day in office. Make it a week – the candidate who promises to work 12 hour days reversing all of Obama’s EOs and regulations until they are ALL gone should get wide support.

The problem of executive power grabs is not new in our Republic. When Congress voted not to appropriate the money to send the fleet to Manila, Teddy Roosevelt replied that he had already put them under sail, and Congress should appropriate the money if they wanted them ever to come back. That was over a century ago. And a century before THAT, Jefferson engineered the Louisiana Purchase without congressional authority or appropriation.

The solution, as the Courts see it, has always been the same. It’s a political problem and the solution is impeachment.

Of course, it won’t work as long as at least 34 Senators remain loyal to the Vacationer-in-Chief.

Elections matter.

Blaming weak opponents is silly – there were opponents. Staying home just ensures they couldn’t stop Obama.

It’s the voters. Our system means we don’t always get the government we need, but we always get the government we deserve. We let it come to the point where uneducated people pull party levers for wine and cigarettes, while educated people stay home “in protest.”

Adjoran on March 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Harry Reid blames Ukraine standoff on Koch Bros. Well, them and Emmanuel Goldstein.

Teh ‘Toopid is so mind-numbingly strong with this one.

Resist We Much on March 13, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Love listening to this guy.

Based on all he’s accomplished since getting to Congress, pretty clear he can relate.

verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 1:02 PM

lol, our current “Secretary of State” sat in the Senate for over two decades, and accomplished nothing.

Have Soros crayon you better material, please.

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 3:43 PM

The President doesn’t take the position that he’s above the law.

verbaloon on March 13, 2014 at 1:23 PM

This one is a Keeper.

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Poll: Vladimir Putin is stronger than President Obama

A YouGov/Economist survey of 1,000 adults interviewed March 8-10 found that 78 percent view Putin as somewhat to very strong leader. Just 45 percent see Obama the same way. Worse, more Americans, 55 percent, view Obama as a weak leader.

How utterly embarrassing.

Resist We Much on March 13, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Is he above the law? (yes or no)

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I plead the 5th.

verbaloon on March 13, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Picture in your mind that he w/b GWB doing all this.

Schadenfreude on March 13, 2014 at 1:44 PM

I don’t think we need to ‘picture’ the Bush admin pushing the limits of executive power.

verbaloon on March 13, 2014 at 1:54 PM

How many Articles of Impeachment were filed against Bush, as compared to your Cult Leader?

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Is he above the law? (yes or no)

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM

No.

Now answer my question:

What do you think Obama will do in response to a SCOTUS ruling on the NLRB case?

Do you think he will or will not abide by their decision?

verbaloon on March 13, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Why did he not abide by the 3 lower Courts’ prior rulings in the very same case?

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Cop out of an answer.

You know he will indeed abide by the decision

verbaloon on March 13, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Just like he abided by the first 3 Courts that ruled against him.

F-

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Stupid

Schadenfreude on March 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Well, above not working now

Rep. Johnson: GOP Hasn’t Sued Obama Because ‘They Would Not Present a Truthful Case’

Schadenfreude on March 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Trying again

Schadenfreude on March 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM

The President doesn’t take the position that he’s above the law.

verbaloon on March 13, 2014 at 1:23 PM

This one is a Keeper.

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Good point – I have it filed away in my ‘RogerB’ file.

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 4:17 PM

This one is a Keeper.

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 3:44 PM

This one as well:

It is very simple. He broke the law. He will suffer no penalty for having done so. Therefore as a practical matter, he is above the law (remember? that is the very first thing I said to you).

MJBrutus on March 13, 2014 at 2:03 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/13/trey-gowdy-on-obamas-power-grabs-how-does-going-from-being-a-senator-to-a-president-re-write-the-constitution/comment-page-2/#comment-7828089

DinaRehn on March 13, 2014 at 4:20 PM

I listened to Rep. Gowdy’s speech – he is incredible. I wish he were in Boehner’s position. We need more of this kind of behavior.

MN J on March 13, 2014 at 4:25 PM

We all know they won’t pay any attention to it but the Republicans are at least on record as having done something for once.

crankyoldlady on March 13, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Things seem to be running better now.

crankyoldlady on March 13, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Trey Gowdy is AWESOME!! Makes me want to move to SC.
He truly cares about America, and the American people.

Can we clone him?

:)

ooonaughtykitty on March 13, 2014 at 4:55 PM

The President doesn’t take the position that he’s above the law.
verbaloon on March 13, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Lol :) now this sounds straight from a Monty Python sketch :)…

jimver on March 13, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Obama is a bald faced Marxist LIAR as is the bald faced lying, Marxist Democrat party! The solution, ultimately, is to vote every Marxist lying Democrat out of every office in the land! America needs a clean sweep in the next elections!

Marco on March 13, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Based on all he’s accomplished since getting to Congress, pretty clear he can relate.
 
verbaluce on March 13, 2014 at 1:02 PM

 
One can always rely on verbaluce to post that sort of thing while forgetting his own active and personal support in promoting an even less accomplished man to the presidency.
 
Come to think of it, Gowdy has been in office for 1166 days now. How long was Obama a senator before you began supporting him for president and wept tears of joy when he won, verbaluce?
 
Here, let CNN help:
 

Obama served 743 days in the Senate from his swearing in to the announcement of his exploratory committee, the first official step when considering a run for the presidency. He served 768 days from the start of his career in the Senate to February 10, 2007, when he formally announced his candidacy for president.
 
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6hq5xn

 

rogerb on March 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Don’t go into conference mad, verby.

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Here, let CNN help:

Obama served 743 days in the Senate from his swearing in to the announcement of his exploratory committee, the first official step when considering a run for the presidency. He served 768 days from the start of his career in the Senate to February 10, 2007, when he formally announced his candidacy for president.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6hq5xn

rogerb on March 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM

As I recall he Quit halfway thru his term, just like the evil Palin.

Did he ever “accomplish” anything legislatively in the Senate? I’m sure verbie can tell us!

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 5:59 PM

rogerb on March 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM

As I recall he Quit halfway thru his term, just like the evil Palin.

Did he ever “accomplish” anything legislatively in the Senate? I’m sure verbie can tell us!

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 5:59 PM

verbie is still In Conference, I see.

wiki

Barack Obama sponsored 137 bills from 4 Jan 2005 until 16 November 2008. Two became law.

And one of his greatest achievements in the Senate was authoring a 2005 Resolution congratulating the Chicago White Sox on winning the World Series. What an accomplishment!

Del Dolemonte on March 13, 2014 at 7:10 PM

One can only dream of what a toe to toe between Trey and The Petulant KingChild would yield.Good times,no doubt.

SweetSensationalist on March 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Simple question from Gowdy, who came armed with quotes from the golden days of Hopenchange: Would Senator Obama have supported the bill? The answer is even simpler: It depends on whether doing so would have helped him electorally or not. That’s the only real consideration, and remains the only real consideration to this day.

So what you’re saying is, he’s always been consistent?

That’s hard to argue with. If by “consistent,” you simply mean, “He’s always been willing to tell you whatever lie will help him get what he wants from you,” then Obama’s as consistent as they come.

Probably not what most people think of when they talk about someone being “consistent,” though.

There Goes the Neighborhood on March 13, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Talk is cheap, Trey.Where are the Articles of Impeachment?
Obama has broken his oath to upold the Constitution.Yet he is safe from prosecution because of the political corruption of the body whose duty it is to indict.God forbid the country’s interests should come before the need for corrupt elected officials to protect their power.

redware on March 13, 2014 at 10:01 PM

Good for Gowdy.

The House should line up the impeachment case anyway. As history tells us, it doesn’t have to be passed, just seen for what it is: a vote of no-confidence in this president. Nixon resigned over less.

Even if impeachment were successful and Biden took over, don’t you think he’d be a little more careful, given what would have just happened?

Congess’ laws don’t mean anything and the president is spying on the Senate.

How’s that hope and change working out for you?

virgo on March 14, 2014 at 12:11 AM

I love Gowdy – he is fired up and says what needs to be said….

HOWEVER…

I am TIRED of SPEECHES! They have acknowledged the President has and continues to violate both the Constitution and LAWS, that the Obama administration is a lying, deceitful, tyranical, non-representative Socialist threat to the United States. So when is any of them going to honor their oaths of office – to protect and defend the Constitutio and Rule of Law…’from enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC’, and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?!

WHERE ARE THE REAL MEN/ WOMEN OF HONOR, INTEGRITY, MORALS, ETHICS, DUTY?

easyt65 on March 14, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Can rogerb or one of the other troll trackers keep a list of verby’s UN-answered questions?
 
oldroy on March 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM

 
We stored them in every thread he’s ever participated in. Just search site:hotair.com verbaluce for the complete list.
 
rogerb on March 12, 2014 at 2:55 PM

 
For my recipes,
rogerb has those stored at site:foodnetwork.com verbaluce
 
And he keeps my watercolors at site:artnet.com verbaluce
 
The poems he’s still cataloging.
 
verbaluce on March 12, 2014 at 3:50 PM

 

You should read the post again until you get the joke.
 
rogerb on March 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

rogerb on March 14, 2014 at 12:52 PM

That man would make one h@ll of an Attorney General.

blackgriffin on March 14, 2014 at 2:47 PM

South Carolinians are proud of Trey Gowdy.But before anyone thinks of moving here because of him, remember we also have Lindsey Graham!

redware on March 14, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Obama is obviously not doing anything unconstitutional or the House would impeach him. Unless they are utterly paralyzed with fear.

Buddahpundit on March 14, 2014 at 11:06 PM

The fact is the proposed bill is not constitutional. You can’t correct a breach in the law by creating a new one.

Unfortunately, most of these breaches by Obama will take years of litigation to overturn, and most will also be rendered moot by the next President on his first day in office. Make it a week – the candidate who promises to work 12 hour days reversing all of Obama’s EOs and regulations until they are ALL gone should get wide support.

The problem of executive power grabs is not new in our Republic. When Congress voted not to appropriate the money to send the fleet to Manila, Teddy Roosevelt replied that he had already put them under sail, and Congress should appropriate the money if they wanted them ever to come back. That was over a century ago. And a century before THAT, Jefferson engineered the Louisiana Purchase without congressional authority or appropriation.

The solution, as the Courts see it, has always been the same. It’s a political problem and the solution is impeachment.

Of course, it won’t work as long as at least 34 Senators remain loyal to the Vacationer-in-Chief.

Elections matter.

Blaming weak opponents is silly – there were opponents. Staying home just ensures they couldn’t stop Obama.

It’s the voters. Our system means we don’t always get the government we need, but we always get the government we deserve. We let it come to the point where uneducated people pull party levers for wine and cigarettes, while educated people stay home “in protest.”

Adjoran on March 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Couldn’t agree more with all your points. Courts would call any suit a political matter, and kill it (they have done this many times), Can impeach, but would never get close to conviction with the lockstep dem’s.

Fault is ours. All of it. We didn’t keep our representatives honest, and now like a jungle-child, our government’s gone feral.

What to do with a feral animal?

No one will like the outcome when all this comes to a head.

NavyspyII on March 15, 2014 at 8:54 AM

That man would make one h@ll of an Attorney General.

blackgriffin on March 14, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Concur. I fear that he would be RFK’d shortly thereafter, though.

NavyspyII on March 15, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Why is this guy still a DemonicRat?

Theophile on March 17, 2014 at 1:59 AM

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