Scarborough: FL-13 upset shows 2014 will be “historic” Dem loss

posted at 8:41 am on March 12, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Just how much of a bellwether was the special election in FL-13? If there’s one solid prediction to make in a special election, it’s that the winning side will call it a bellwether and the losing side will insist it’s not. In this case, though, denial will be difficult to support from Democrats, who poured $5.4 million into Alex Sink’s campaign, only to see her lose to David Jolly, a candidate the broad consensus called “flawed.” Jolly ran against ObamaCare more than Sink, though, while Sink got forced into defending it — and that’s why Joe Scarborough declared the race a harbinger of a “historic” midterm defeat for Democrats:

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“History shows Obamacare sunk Democrats in 2010,” Scarborough said. “I think we may have something historic here happening, where you have one act actually causing grave damage to a political party two midterms in a row.”

“I personally believe Alex Sink’s consultants, that had her stand in front of the camera that said ‘fix the Affordable Care Act,’ I think that’s a horrible mistake,” Scarborough continued. “You don’t fight on enemy terrain. She tried to fight on enemy terrain, defending this act that no Democrat has tried to defend over the last four years. They just don’t do it because you can’t do it on the campaign trail, unless you like losing.”

The problem for Democrats will be that ObamaCare literally impacts everyone, and overwhelmingly in bad ways — by making insurance and health care more expensive, and doctors less willing to take new patients. That’s not true of the issues that Democrats would rather discuss than ObamaCare; even income inequality, the big theme of Democrats since the State of the Union speech, is aimed at benefiting a small percentage of the population. Plus, ObamaCare was literally the Democratic effort on supposed health-care inequality, so it’s not really changing the subject at all. They have little choice but to fight on “enemy terrain,” and even a big money advantage won’t help.

Politico’s Alex Isenstadt called FL-13 a “big blow” to the midterm hopes of Democrats:

Florida’s 13th District is, in many ways, the archetype of the kind of seat Democrats need to win if they’re serious about erasing their 17-seat House deficit anytime soon. Its electorate is older, overwhelmingly white, and politically moderate — in other words, the kind of people who dominate many of the swing congressional districts across the country.

In fact, the district should have been one of the Democratic Party’s most winnable targets. Of the 37 GOP-held seats that the Cook Political Report ranks as the most vulnerable to Democratic takeover, only 11 are more Democratic-friendly than Florida’s 13th. The district has just a narrow GOP registration edge.

“If the Democrats can’t win with their former gubernatorial candidate with 100 percent name ID, where are they going to win?” asked Guy Harrison, a former National Republican Congressional Committee executive director. “When the Democrats look at their playing field, they don’t have too many better seats to target. They don’t have too much of a prayer for winning the majority.”

Some Democrats viewed the race as a template for how the party could win in purple-hued districts. Over the past two months, Sink rolled out an elaborate plan to win over the GOP and independent voters she’d need to take the district, airing ads in which she promised to “work across the aisle. … Bringing Republicans and Democrats together — that’s what I’ve always done, and that’s what I’ll do in Congress.”

But Jolly’s win shows just how politically treacherous the path is for Democrats running in such moderate-to-conservative areas. Rather than moving to the center, Jolly pushed to the right, painting himself as a foe of President Barack Obama and his Affordable Care Act — and presenting Sink as a staunch ally.

“She supports Obamacare. I don’t. I’m David Jolly, and I approve this message because [we] need someone to look out for our interests, not President Obama’s,” he said in one TV ad.

In the face of those kinds of attacks, Sink’s can’t-we-all-just-get-along message just didn’t cut it.

Republicans should take care not to read too much into this, either. Sink only underperformed Barack Obama’s 2012 margin by five points in the district, and turnout models in special elections are much different than those in regular elections. Still, Democrats had the matchup they wanted with Sink against a former lobbyist and Beltway insider, won the cash fight by almost a million dollars — and still lost by almost two points in a three-way race. That may not mean everything or be a perfect predictor of what will come in November, but it’s not meaningless, either.


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Boy Mika’s hair is blinding.

gophergirl on March 12, 2014 at 8:44 AM

I wonder why Joe didn’t call her a moron?

ctmom on March 12, 2014 at 8:45 AM

Emperor Jugears doesn’t need a Congress to rule by fascist Decree.

ConstantineXI on March 12, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Any pub candidate worth their salt will force the demorat opponent to state their stance on DeathCare during any and all debates.

Then again the GOP is so full of pandering, foolish, douchebags that such a strategy will be shot down by Party Central Command.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Any stats yet on whether the Libertarian took votes from Sink, or Jolly?

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 8:48 AM

Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!

No, I didn’t! grrr

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Boy Mika’s hair is blinding.

gophergirl on March 12, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Looks like she spray paints it white.

Bitter Clinger on March 12, 2014 at 8:52 AM

How do we know this is significant? Every Single Democrat says it isn’t.

Mord on March 12, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Ok HotGas, enough is enough. Days of your server and comment problems is REALLY getting old.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Looks like she spray paints it white.

Bitter Clinger on March 12, 2014 at 8:52 AM

Or shampooed her hair with hydrogen peroxide.

gophergirl on March 12, 2014 at 8:54 AM

“History shows Obamacare sunk Democrats in 2010,” Scarborough said. “I think we may have something historic here happening, where you have one act actually causing grave damage to a political party two midterms in a row.”

Can you imagine what might have happened if the media had reported impartially about the crafting of the law, it’s maneuvering through Congress and implementation in a straight up unbiassed manner?

People would be either recalling every single person who voted for this or calling for early mid-terms.

Chance obama might not even been reelected?

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Okay GOP – this is another example of why the party must run AGAINST obamacare – full time, and stop pushing AMNESTY. Going into 2016, the party must not float candidates like Rubio, whose signature issue is AMNESTY – something that, if passed, would prevent obamacare from ever being repealed. The main focus must be obamacare – this is how we win.

Pork-Chop on March 12, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Boy Mika’s hair is blinding.

gophergirl on March 12, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Maybe it’s to distract your eyes from the pouty face she always seems to have on.

Cleombrotus on March 12, 2014 at 8:56 AM

o that r good English, hawk

Is there a chance obama might not have even been reelected?

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 8:57 AM

In this case, though, denial will be difficult to support from Democrats, who poured $5.4 million into Alex Sink’s campaign, only to see her lose to David Jolly, a candidate the broad consensus called “flawed.”

They’re doing it though Ed. Claiming that Jolly’s win was “bought with Koch”.

Denial – it’s more than just a river in Egypt.

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Is there a chance obama might not have even been reelected?

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 8:57 AM

I read it as “Any chance he won’t get re-elected” and shuddered.

Cleombrotus on March 12, 2014 at 9:00 AM

They’re doing it though Ed. Claiming that Jolly’s win was “bought with Koch”.

Denial – it’s more than just a river in Egypt.

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Flora, with all the teeth gnashing, I am surprised they didn’t contest something, anything down there. Nothing in the news about folks carping at Sink directly for conceding so quickly?

They never give up unless they are beaten clearly, decisively or run out of money. Heck, those guy could find 4k donk votes in “my” trunk.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!

No, I didn’t! grrr

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 8:49 AM

It’s been doing that to me too. The only thing I can figure out is that it’s counting the “preview” as a posting.

ladyingray on March 12, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Ok HotGas, enough is enough. Days of your server and comment problems is REALLY getting old.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Seriously.

Cleombrotus on March 12, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Republicans should take care not to read too much into this, either.

This. It is a longstanding GOP district and it was won with less than 50% of the vote and just a couple of points above the Democrat. I would hardly call this a bellwether.

Occams Stubble on March 12, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Chuckles Scarborough is going out on a limb assuming Republicans will run opposing ObamaCare.

Fenris on March 12, 2014 at 9:04 AM

Whah??? You mean Freedom Loving Americans are voting against Socialist Democrat Statists?

/Color me perplexed.

Key West Reader on March 12, 2014 at 9:04 AM

People are missing the point that the Libertarian siphoned 5% of the vote, about 90% of which would have gone to Jolly.

So Jolly won 53-47, give or take.

Moreover, Sink never voted for Obamacare, never served in Congress, meaning that its negative potency extends even to those RATS who aren’t directly accountable for the monstrosity.

This bodes well for open senate seats in Iowa and Michigan – assuming WV and SD are already in the bag.

I hope Dems from coast to coast have night sweats until November. They shoved this disaster down our throats.

matthew8787 on March 12, 2014 at 9:05 AM

I read it as “Any chance he won’t get re-elected” and shuddered.

Cleombrotus on March 12, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Now you made me shudder.

MSNBC Line-up talking points 2015-2016:

“President obama has created a dire situation in the US where millions have been on unemployment for literally years, the economy is a cesspool, millions have lost their healthcare, and the Middle East is a burning wildfire of death and destruction!!!

Only he can fix it. Repeal the 22nd Amendment!!!”

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:06 AM

This. It is a longstanding GOP district and it was won with less than 50% of the vote and just a couple of points above the Democrat. I would hardly call this a bellwether.

Occams Stubble on March 12, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Obama carried the district in 2008 and 2012 and I believe Sink carried it over Scott as well.

gophergirl on March 12, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Flora, with all the teeth gnashing, I am surprised they didn’t contest something, anything down there. Nothing in the news about folks carping at Sink directly for conceding so quickly?

They never give up unless they are beaten clearly, decisively or run out of money. Heck, those guy could find 4k donk votes in “my” trunk.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:00 AM

The only carping I’ve seen was on DailyKos, but their beef is that she didn’t go full-on prog. I highly doubt Alex Sink will run for this seat again in November.

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Obama carried the district in 2008 and 2012 and I believe Sink carried it over Scott as well.

gophergirl on March 12, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Correct.

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Republicans should take care not to read too much into this, either.

This. It is a longstanding GOP district and it was won with less than 50% of the vote and just a couple of points above the Democrat. I would hardly call this a bellwether.

Occams Stubble on March 12, 2014 at 9:02 AM

First, Overby.

And B, it was bellwether. obama won it both elections. Jolly was outspent 3-1. This so-called “flawed” candidate beat a Donk that Bill Clinton even stumped for with a libertarian syphoning nearly 5 percent of the vote.

I’d never rest on my haunches, but if this isn’t bellwether, nothing is.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Scarborough continued. “You don’t fight on enemy terrain.”

Say what?? Scarborough’s a friggin sooper-geenyus!!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 12, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Boy Mika’s hair is blinding.

gophergirl on March 12, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Looks like she spray paints it white.

Bitter Clinger on March 12, 2014 at 8:52 AM

This is very cruel of you two. Can’t you see that the poor woman has a serious medical problem and is suffering from severly restricted blood flow in the cranial region?

/

M240H on March 12, 2014 at 9:14 AM

O/T Jeffrey Lord writes about Hillary Clinton’s private NSA funded by Soros.
http://spectator.org/articles/58162/hillarys-private-nsa

onlineanalyst on March 12, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Looks like democrats should just hang up their spurs, hoard campaign cash, and start looking for jobs at non profits or as lobbyists. It’s difficult to see just how effective a democrat lobbyist will be in a congress controlled by the GOP but someone will pay the freight.

So many dems have been in congress for most of their life, so retirement would be pretty luxurious, and not much work.

Joseph OHenry on March 12, 2014 at 9:15 AM

I lay the demise of this country 100% at the feet of the media. If they would have been 25% intellectually curious, we would have never had a Pres Obama nor his signature legislation. The best we can hope for is the destruction of the D-party for a few decades while this once great country is rebuilt.

hillsoftx on March 12, 2014 at 9:16 AM

How do we know this is significant? Every Single Democrat says it isn’t.

Mord on March 12, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Heh. Debbie Whatshername Schultz is saying the GOP “underperformed”. If that equals a win, I hope every Republican candidate underperforms in their campaign.

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 9:17 AM

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Hey, Army Boy, are you over at Blogmocracy?

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Okay, so two midterm elections in a row are about Obamacare and the Dems lose? The second one hasn’t been run yet. And how do we explain Obama winning his second election if it’s about Obamacare? Somebody’s not being consistent.

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Seriously.

Cleombrotus on March 12, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Careful.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Sink only underperformed the presidents 2012 margin by five points, true, but she drew poor turnout among Democrats in a hard fought race where she and her allies spent historically large money (given the sort of election we are talking about) and,of the Democrats who showed up to vote, I believe the numbers will show 15% of those who voted for Obama and the Democrat ticket in 2012 voted for a flawed Republican yesterday.

MTF on March 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

I love how the NYT’s guy is like, “If I may be a contrarian.”

No. You’re being a water carrier for the DNC. But nice try.

chris0christies0donut on March 12, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Gimmecrats know House is not flipping. Nonstory.

Single focus has to be getting the Senate, otherwise King Putt’s abuse of his actual legit power, federal judicial appointments, will be truly sickening in 15 and 16. His last shot at fundamental transformation is packing the Circuits with freaked out social score settlers, and God forbid Scalia or Thomas has the mondo cardio while we are still suffering through the end of this embarrassment. So it comes down to 6 or 7 states, or else the damage lasts decades.

cosifantutte on March 12, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Okay, so two midterm elections in a row are about Obamacare and the Dems lose? The second one hasn’t been run yet. And how do we explain Obama winning his second election if it’s about Obamacare? Somebody’s not being consistent.

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Maybe it has something to do with Romney?

chris0christies0donut on March 12, 2014 at 9:22 AM

This is very cruel of you two. Can’t you see that the poor woman has a serious medical problem and is suffering from severly restricted blood flow in the cranial region?

/

M240H on March 12, 2014 at 9:14 AM

How dumb of me. I should’ve recognized that immediately.

Bitter Clinger on March 12, 2014 at 9:22 AM

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Hey, Army Boy, are you over at Blogmocracy?

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:18 AM

No I’m not barnacle scraper. Does someone over there sound like me?

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:22 AM

No I’m not barnacle scraper. Does someone over there sound like me?

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:22 AM

No, just wondering where some of the HotGas regulars have wandered off to. Barnacle Scraper?

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:23 AM

Debbie Whatshername Schultz…

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 9:17 AM

It’s the little things like this that brighten my mornings.

JetBoy on March 12, 2014 at 9:23 AM

And how do we explain Obama winning his second election if it’s about Obamacare? Somebody’s not being consistent.

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

The 2012 election was about Benghazi and Barky telling Vlad Putin that he’d have more flexibility so that Vlad could run over Ukraine if he wanted.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 12, 2014 at 9:23 AM

Maybe too early for poking even for fun. Sorry. Navy Boy!

You never know how folks in another compound will react before their coffee.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:25 AM

And how do we explain Obama winning his second election if it’s about Obamacare?

Ted Cruz believes the answer is that we ran a non-ideological campaign, in keeping with the long line of moderate “nice” people we’ve run every time since Reagan.

If, bu contrast, we make the next campaign about ideas and run an aggressive candidate,we might just win.

MTF on March 12, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Okay, so two midterm elections in a row are about Obamacare and the Dems lose? The second one hasn’t been run yet. And how do we explain Obama winning his second election if it’s about Obamacare? Somebody’s not being consistent.

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

The last presidential election wasn’t about Obamacare. It couldn’t be, with Romney heading the R ticket.

cptacek on March 12, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Okay, so two midterm elections in a row are about Obamacare and the Dems lose? The second one hasn’t been run yet. And how do we explain Obama winning his second election if it’s about Obamacare? Somebody’s not being consistent.

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

How’d Obama win a second term? It’s called voter fraud combined with a lackluster campaign by Mitt Romney.

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 9:27 AM

This win by Jolly must have been very painful for Joe!

tomshup on March 12, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Ted Cruz believes the answer is that we ran a non-ideological campaign, in keeping with the long line of moderate “nice” people we’ve run every time since Reagan.

If, bu contrast, we make the next campaign about ideas and run an aggressive candidate,we might just win.

MTF on March 12, 2014 at 9:25 AM

I agree with Cruz. When the rat-eared wonder and his filthy party trotted out a slut from Georgetown Law to push the conservative war on women meme and HHS mandate; Mitt should have been out there standing firm for religious freedom. Instead, he remained silent.

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Maybe too early for poking even for fun. Sorry. Navy Boy!

You never know how folks in another compound will react before their coffee.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:25 AM

ROFL

Oh man, I read that as you saying “I’m over at Barnacle Scraper” as if that were a website rather than you giving me some good natured heat. Jeebus WTF is wrong with me this morning, my eyes are all twisted up.

No, I’m just wondering where all the old hands have gone off to, like RushBaby and Spirit of 1776.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:29 AM

No, just wondering where some of the HotGas regulars have wandered off to. Barnacle Scraper?

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:23 AM

The proper term is Skimmer Puke.

signed:

Bubble Head.

BigWyo on March 12, 2014 at 9:30 AM

This. It is a longstanding GOP district and it was won with less than 50% of the vote and just a couple of points above the Democrat. I would hardly call this a bellwether.

Occams Stubble on March 12, 2014 at 9:02 AM

long standing in as how long, more and more NY’s are moving to Florida, how may from California are moving there how many are changing formerly Republican districts to Democratic or leaning Demorcratic.

RonK on March 12, 2014 at 9:31 AM

If the dems are smart, and let’s hope they aren’t, they will just write off 14 and save their money for 16, and the inevitable screw up you know the GOPe is going to bring.

traye on March 12, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Ok HotGas, enough is enough. Days of your server and comment problems is REALLY getting old.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 8:53 AM

HA blog, voted most like a government healthcare website.

Vince on March 12, 2014 at 9:33 AM

No, I’m just wondering where all the old hands have gone off to, like RushBaby and Spirit of 1776.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:29 AM

I’ve actually been commenting a bunch since we finished the house (mostly) since around the holidays. Next month I’m on the road again and probably won’t have this kind of time. (maybe better)

But yeah, there are a bunch of the older folks I never see. A few others are filtering back.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM

“History shows Obamacare sunk Democrats in 2010,” Scarborough said. “I think we may have something historic here happening, where you have one act actually causing grave damage to a political party two midterms in a row.”

I thought the gun control issue was going to sink the GOP, Joe. I’m confused. After all, as Mika said at the time, your predictions on these matters are never wrong.

frank on March 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM

But yeah, there are a bunch of the older folks I never see. A few others are filtering back.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Well, I’m sure we’re all glad to see you still hanging around, Hawk.

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM

“I think actually, Candy, that Democrats will be able to run on Obamacare as an advantage leading into the 2014 election.” – Democratic National Committee chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), Nov. 10, 2013

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 9:39 AM

This win by Jolly must have been very painful for Joe!

tomshup on March 12, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Yeah, I wonder if the possible Republican Presidential candidate here thinks a “historic Dem loss” is a good or bad thing.

Marcus on March 12, 2014 at 9:41 AM

F R E E
the
S H A D !

KOOLAID2 on March 12, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Okay, so two midterm elections in a row are about Obamacare and the Dems lose? The second one hasn’t been run yet. And how do we explain Obama winning his second election if it’s about Obamacare? Somebody’s not being consistent.

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Are you concerned because the IRS is still standing in the way of right leaning 501-C4s and yet it’s not going the way it did in 2012?

Vince on March 12, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Boy Mika’s hair is blinding.
gophergirl on March 12, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Looks like she spray paints it white.
Bitter Clinger on March 12, 2014 at 8:52 AM

Yeah, she is going for the Ed McMahon look. She’s Trying to target the Century Village demographic.

Brock Robamney on March 12, 2014 at 9:45 AM

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Well I’m going to move out.

I’ll be dropping my goodbye screed in another thread. I occasionally opine under another name over at Blogmocracy and a way different moniker at Twitchy, so maybe I’ll see you around. Not that Army Geeks can read that well, but you know.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Yeah, I wonder if the possible Republican Presidential candidate here thinks a “historic Dem loss” is a good or bad thing.
Marcus on March 12, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Well, considering it’s going to be Jeb Bush or Krispy, I think they will think it is a tragedy as it will interfere with their push for amnesty

Brock Robamney on March 12, 2014 at 9:48 AM

What NONE of the liberals will admit

is that without OBAMA on the ticket the massive turnout of minorities who only know its a black president just
DO NO SHOW UP.

But angry voters who have been hurt by obamacare DO SHOW UP>

Thus even with the illegial activites of govt thugs

IRS anyone
the dems will get shellacking round 2.

sniffles1999 on March 12, 2014 at 9:49 AM

The Democrats promise to “fix” Obamacare, which is historically what Democrats promise to do – fix the mess they made.

oldennis on March 12, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Okay, so two midterm elections in a row are about Obamacare and the Dems lose? The second one hasn’t been run yet. And how do we explain Obama winning his second election if it’s about Obamacare? Somebody’s not being consistent.

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Are you concerned because the IRS is still standing in the way of right leaning 501-C4s and yet it’s not going the way it did in 2012?

Vince on March 12, 2014 at 9:44 AM

I hope every IRS agent, official and employee chokes on their own bile and that the IRS itself is exposed for the lying, corrupt agency that it is. And I mean REALLY exposed, not just this relatively minor blocking of conservative organizations tax exempt status. November is going to feel so sweet when we retake the Senate.

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:51 AM

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Thanks but there is doing “too much” of anything. I’ll just note that two days in a row last week, I got up, start talking about something here on the computer inside and ended up still going on about it riding around on my lil blue tractor pulling stumps with a new tablet.

O/T Jeffrey Lord writes about Hillary Clinton’s private NSA funded by Soros.
http://spectator.org/articles/58162/hillarys-private-nsa

onlineanalyst on March 12, 2014 at 9:15 AM

And speaking of stumps, heading out here, but this is disturbing what OLA linked too. Rush and hannity spoke about it a little yesterday. I’d really like to see more news on the details of this. In a nutshell, these folks are justifying spying on private citizens and candidates through a very well-funded network using wire-tapping and public recordings. David Brock from Media Matters and non other than Soros himself. What they’re doing is near criminal and lay to rest any lingering notion MM was ever any kind of media fairness org.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Okay, you can’t pull stumps with a new tablet. I don’t have an app for that. Tablet, in tractor drink holder,

I should go.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Well, considering it’s going to be Jeb Bush or Krispy….
Brock Robamney on March 12, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Crawl back into bed and pull the covers over your head.

Marcus on March 12, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Obama carried the district in 2008 and 2012 and I believe Sink carried it over Scott as well.

gophergirl on March 12, 2014 at 9:06 AM

On top of that, wasn’t the longstanding House member who died in office a notorious pork king. Pork kings, regardless of party and though reviled by voters in theory, seem very popular in their own districts. To listen to Dems today, Sink’s challenge to Jolly was akin to a white Republican trying to unseat Charlie Rangel in his district.

BuckeyeSam on March 12, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Well I’m going to move out.

I’ll be dropping my goodbye screed in another thread. I occasionally opine under another name over at Blogmocracy and a way different moniker at Twitchy, so maybe I’ll see you around. Not that Army Geeks can read that well, but you know.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM

NOOOOO! If you leave, who’s going to teach me new fishing techniques?

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 10:00 AM

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Yep, if it weren’t for my daughter reading to me what you just were writing and typing back what I tell her, this Army guy wouldn’t even be able to participate in Hot Gas. I had to hold her back as a senior because it was an election year.

I’ll check out the other site you mentioned. You’d be missed here. I say that noting several of the knock down/drag outs you participated in just in the last couple days.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 10:02 AM

OT: Huge explosion in building in East Harlem…

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Park-Avenue-116th-Street-Fire-Collapse-Explosion-249730131.html?akmobile=o&nms=y

I’m downtown but people north felt it like an earthquake

JetBoy on March 12, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM

NOOOOO! If you leave, who’s going to teach me new fishing techniques?

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 10:00 AM

Yeah, I’d rather you not make an official stance on just checking out either. You add more here than you’ll ever know.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Any pub candidate worth their salt will force the demorat opponent to state their stance on DeathCare during any and all debates.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 8:46 AM

And something more than the cursory “I want to fix it” statement, please. It frustrates me to no end that that is never called out by the GOP. Fix what? The whole thing is an expensive stool that can only function by being backed up by the mandate. If they pretend that they can push off all the politically unpopular provisions and keep the pre-existing conditions and Medicaid provisions in place at no additional cost, then someone needs to point out.

blammm on March 12, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Democrats wanted ObamaCare. They got ObamaCare. Now hang it around their necks like a boat anchor.

GarandFan on March 12, 2014 at 10:09 AM

O/T Jeffrey Lord writes about Hillary Clinton’s private NSA funded by Soros.
http://spectator.org/articles/58162/hillarys-private-nsa

onlineanalyst on March 12, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Yeah, but, like, um, ya know, Soros isn’t the Koch Brothers. So, there’s nothing unAmerican, unpatriotic, and nefarious about his money and influence.

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Resist We Much on March 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Boy Mika’s hair is blinding.

gophergirl on March 12, 2014 at 8:44 AM</blockquote

Is she related to Calista Gingrich?

stenwin77 on March 12, 2014 at 10:23 AM

Is there a chance obama might not have even been reelected?

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Without massive corruption in the IRS, I don’t believe he would have been reelected.

Massive voter fraud is an issue as well, but we’ve had to live with that for a few decades now.

slickwillie2001 on March 12, 2014 at 10:30 AM

In what world do these events deserve a useless Scarborough clip, instead of the almighty humpbot?

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on March 12, 2014 at 10:31 AM

I’ll check out the other site you mentioned. You’d be missed here. I say that noting several of the knock down/drag outs you participated in just in the last couple days.

hawkdriver on March 12, 2014 at 10:02 AM

You will find some people you know there, and no ban hammer…

oscarwilde on March 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM

“I think actually, Candy, that Democrats will be able to run on Obamacare as an advantage leading into the 2014 election.” – Democratic National Committee chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), Nov. 10, 2013

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 9:39 AM

Don’t misundersetimate it. Watch for large bunches of freebie goodies to be disseminated starting a few months before the election. LoFo’s surely love them some free stuff, and their memory is rather short.

Look, they’ve done the experiments, and seen the results – it’s not going to work to run AWAY from Ocare, so the only option the dems have is to run WITH it. They really have no other choice. And there’s plenty of room for lipstick on that huge pig.

bofh on March 12, 2014 at 10:39 AM

Well I’m going to move out.
I’ll be dropping my goodbye screed in another thread. I occasionally opine under another name over at Blogmocracy and a way different moniker at Twitchy, so maybe I’ll see you around. Not that Army Geeks can read that well, but you know.
Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Sad to see!!

bluegill on March 12, 2014 at 10:41 AM

Wait, Jolly ran to the RIGHT of Ms. Sink? Actually presented a difference? The heck you say.

Cindy Munford on March 12, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Those are two of my favorites that I really miss. Sometimes life just gets in the way of commenting at Hot Air.

Cindy Munford on March 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Pajama Boy in video.

WhatSlushfund on March 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM

even income inequality, the big theme of Democrats since the State of the Union speech, is aimed at benefiting a small percentage of the population

Obamacare was supposed to benefit a “small percentage of the population,” too.

Obamawage will be as popular as Obamacare has become…and think of all the off-the-books activity not reported, just like Obamacare. Unless, of course, more ‘mericans decide not to play, like in Connecticut.

Felonies for everyone, barkeep!

DublOh7 on March 12, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Okay, so two midterm elections in a row are about Obamacare and the Dems lose? The second one hasn’t been run yet. And how do we explain Obama winning his second election if it’s about Obamacare? Somebody’s not being consistent.

HiJack on March 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Well, Øbamacare had yet to be implemented, so the pain was not there yet, something Øbama is trying to reproduce with his moving the deadlines after the elections. Secondly, the other topics of note, such as Benghazi, Fast and Furious etc., were effectively buried by both the compliant media and the even more compliant AG.

And that is before the voter fraud….

DimsdalePiranha on March 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Well I’m going to move out.
I’ll be dropping my goodbye screed in another thread.
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Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Really sorry to read that – your presence here was a major asset for the site.

bofh on March 12, 2014 at 11:07 AM

But, but, but didn’t the FL voters realize Cink was for the “the poor, the elderly and the children”?

Tater Salad on March 12, 2014 at 11:07 AM

Interesting that no one is talking about the fact that Killery’s husband went to Florida for Sink — and couldn’t work his turnout magic.

Rational Thought on March 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM

So many dems have been in congress for most of their life, so retirement would be pretty luxurious, and not much work.

Joseph OHenry on March 12, 2014 at 9:15 AM

So…you’re saying that life would change very little for them?

;-)

Solaratov on March 12, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Well I’m going to move out.

Bishop on March 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM

I’m thinking of doing the same. Not that anyone would or should care.

The vibe here just isn’t the same.

ElectricPhase on March 12, 2014 at 11:22 AM

ElectricPhase on March 12, 2014 at 11:22 AM

We would care and the “vibe” rests a little on you and all of us.

Cindy Munford on March 12, 2014 at 11:35 AM

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