Obama: Health insurance isn’t expensive – just cancel cable and phones; Update: White House responds

posted at 10:01 am on March 12, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

This is a few days old, but it’s amusing nonetheless. Barack Obama appeared in a town hall for Spanish-language media on March 6th to discuss ObamaCare and promote enrollments, and got challenged by a viewer on the economics of it for low-income Americans who are now forced to buy comprehensive health insurance. On a $36,000 annual income, the requirement to buy the broad policy rather than something a little more economical — say, hospitalization coverage combined with an HSA, a strategy which is now all but illegal — makes it impossible to comply. Pshaw, Obama replied. Why, all those low-income folks need to do is stop spending money on luxuries like cable television and cell phones!

No, really:

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The President responded that “if you looked at their cable bill, their telephone, their cell phone bill… it may turn out that, it’s just they haven’t prioritized health care.” He added that if a family member gets sick, the father “will wish he had paid that $300 a month.”

The Libre Initiative points out that premiums have skyrocketed, thanks to the forced changes in ObamaCare, along with the mandate for comprehensive coverage:

According to the National Center for Public Policy Research, the health care law is reducing choice and increasing premiums for millions of Americans. Ehealthinsurance reports that consumers are paying an average of 39% more than they did before the law was implemented. The high cost of policies is contributing to the continued weak enrollment numbers under the law, which are now showing signs of decreasing with less than 3 weeks left to enroll. When he sought the Presidency, Mr. Obama said his plan would deliver affordable care that people would be “desperate” to purchase.

Daniel Garza, Executive Director of The LIBRE Initiative released the following statement:

“If the President actually believes that a family earning less than $40,000 per year can afford nearly $4,000 in health insurance premiums, then he truly does not understand middle-income families. Americans do not need the President to tell them how to budget their households. People are already cutting back on things like cable television and cell phones, just to compensate for an awful economy.This President promised he would deliver on affordable health care. Instead, premiums are up, out-of-pocket expenses are up, and overall cost of living is up. The President simply doesn’t get it. And his condescending attitude adds insult to injury.”

Let’s take a look at that $300 a month, too. Assuming that we’re talking about a family of four, that would force the family to spend $3,600 a year. While that might be money well spent in the case of catastrophe, it’s a bad investment on several levels otherwise. If both kids break a bone, it might run them $500 each to get treated, or perhaps even a thousand each if they go to an emergency room. If they get the flu, perhaps another $200 each for a doctor visit. Throw in wellness checks for everyone at $250 each, and we’re talking about $3400 in medical care, $200 less than their premiums.

But wait! In most plans of that cost, the family will have to spend thousands of dollars in deductibles first for everything but the wellness checks — so the only benefit will be covering the $1000 those cost. In this example, the family that normally would have spent $3400 out of pocket in that year will now spend $5,800.

That’s why families such as the caller’s used HSAs to spend pre-tax money on routine care and smaller emergencies, and chose so-called catastrophic insurance to deal with serious issues requiring hospitalizations. They could do that and still afford to have a phone and cable TV, at least until Barack Obama assumed he could prioritize their budgets better than they could.

Update: Jesse Lee at the White House responds:

It’s difficult to read with the red background, but Obama discusses other options for lower-income families in this part of the Q&A. He also attacks the states that refused to go along with Medicaid expansion, although at $36K a year that’s probably a non-sequitur. This still doesn’t really address Obama’s own suggestion that $300 a month is a reasonable cost for comprehensive family insurance, nor does it negate his implication that families could choose to live without cable and phone service instead. That may well be a fair argument on basic economics, but it’s a far, far cry from the argument offered over the past five years of affordability in ObamaCare. For many uninsured, they had that option in 2009, too.

Also, for the record, I didn’t notice a “mysterious[]” cut in the middle when I posted this, but I’ll watch more carefully for that in the future.

Update: The Federalist looked at the whole response, including what the White House sent me, and scoffed even more:

“Is the Affordable Care Act really affordable?” the moderator then asked Obama. Obama couldn’t settle on a single answer to the question, so he instead suggested that the man should just sign up for Medicaid, blamed Texas for affordable insurance not being available, and concluded by saying the man should cancel his telephone service if he can’t afford to pay for any of Obamacare’s health insurance options. …

That’s right: it’s not Obamacare’s fault that insurance is now unaffordable. It’s Texas’ fault for not expanding Medicaid. If you like your health plan, you can…just go sign up for Medicaid. Or cancel your phone service. Whatever.


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That’s interesting. And yet Comcast will continue to carry his water – via NBC, and Hollyweird will still fawn over him, even though he is encouraging people to cancel a service that helps to put money in their pockets.

reaganaut on March 12, 2014 at 11:10 AM

They don’t call a doctor. They go to the emergency room.

cozmo on March 12, 2014 at 10:12 AM

If you can’t get an appointment with a doctor what would you do? The emergency rooms are going to get busier with ObamaCare.

oldroy on March 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM

Qu’ils mangent de la brioche

Knott Buyinit on March 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM

No, don’t cancel cable and phone in order to afford health insurance. Just pass a law for my tax money to subsidize your cable and phone expenses. Solved!

brentspolemics on March 12, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Can’t we all just send our bill directly to you? Kind of like single payer cable and phone?

oldroy on March 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM

The new drug dealers will carry Z-Packs.

Mazz on March 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM

What is Zero sacrificing for exempt healthcare?

SomewhereSouthWest on March 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Socialists don’t want people to be equal. They want them to be the same. The only way that can happen is if everyone is poor…except them of course.

crankyoldlady on March 12, 2014 at 10:41 AM

I read this article the other day and I found its point interesting:

The protests in Ukraine and Venezuela have laid bare a new fault line in the 21st century. Along this fault line sit an increasingly globalized middle class, eager to link themselves with the West and modernity, and a corrupt ruling class that seeks to maintain ill-gotten privileges that are vestiges of a discredited past.

No one should be surprised that Viktor Yanukovych, the deposed Ukrainian president, chose an authoritarian alliance with his overseers in the Kremlin instead of opening his nation to the European Union. As the once closed doors of his ostentatious mansion are flung open, and the extent of his ill-gotten gains is revealed to his impoverished people, it becomes clear just how much Yanukovych had to lose from political and fiscal transparency.

This same dynamic exists in Venezuela, where protests have pitted middle-class students and urban dwellers against the Chavez-inspired government of Nicholas Maduro. Similar to Yanukovych and Vladimir Putin, Maduro and the heirs of the Chavez regime continue to enrich and empower themselves while the Venezuelan people suffer shortages of basic necessities, including food, medicine, and fuel—ironic for a hydrocarbon rich nation. The level of cronyism is evidenced by the fact that the Chavez children still occupy the Caracas presidential palace, living in luxury while many of their countrymen go hungry.

In both Ukraine and Venezuela—and Russia as well—the societies are thus divided between a political elite built around patronage and corruption, and an increasingly globally aligned middle class who yearn for economic reform and a voice in decisions regarding own destiny. This is the fault line of our times. The great Cold War presidents would be clear that America must stand firm on the side of those seeking freedom and dignity.

I think that the bolded statement is true in every society today. Think of China, Cuba, France, Italy, etc. Consider the Public School* Boys of LibLabCon in the UK versus the ‘Swivel-Eyed Loons’ of UKIP. Think of Washington. Think of Detroit, NYC, Chicago, etc.

* Public schools in the UK are actually tony, expensive, and private institutions like Eton and Harrow.

Pic of the Day: Socialist Venezuela, The Only Country Where Grocery Stores Don’t Even Have Creamed Eel

Meanwhile, Chavez’s daughters refuse to vacate the Presidential Palace and hold elaborate and deafening parties every night. Chavez, who was born into an impoverished family and chose a military career, was worth $5 billion when he died. Maduro, a former BUS DRIVER, is on his way to becoming a billionaire and his finance minister’s overseas bank account was leaked showing $5 million in it. Finally, while millions go without food, medicine, electricity, toilet paper, face one of the highest murder rates in the world and hundreds of thousands are marching in the streets with colectivos (the government’s armed thugs – fascisti/brown-shirts/black-shirts) are using live fire on them and burned down a university yesterday, Maduro just gave every military officer a new automobile (most Venezuelans have to wait 2 years to buy the car they want because of the government’s rules and regs) to keep their loyalty.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Maduro’s likely end will be a rope tied to the back of a truck being driven through the streets of Caracas.

Resist We Much on March 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Pre-Obamacare when healthcare premiums cost significantly less than they do now, those who opposed Obamacare claimed essentially the same thing – why should taxpayers heavily subsidize people’s smart phone and cable bills by paying for their health insurance? These opponents were called racists and anti-poor.

I know small businesses that offer a catastrophic plan (for the moment) that young healthies in the company refuse to opt into – and it’s like $30/month. OBVIOUSLY these employees can afford that much, but they don’t want to.

Missy on March 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Pre-Obamacare when healthcare premiums cost significantly less than they do now, those who opposed Obamacare claimed essentially the same thing – why should taxpayers heavily subsidize people’s smart phone and cable bills by paying for their health insurance? These opponents were called racists and anti-poor.

I know small businesses that offer a catastrophic plan (for the moment) that young healthies in the company refuse to opt into – and it’s like $30/month. OBVIOUSLY these employees can afford that much, but they don’t want to.

Missy on March 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Prioritizing cable and phone bills has nothing whatsoever to do with this absolute failure’s screwup of the American health insurance industry.

GrassMudHorsey on March 12, 2014 at 11:01 AM

Not to mention how many problems have been solved or mitigated by having a cell phone in an emergency.

Cable maybe he’s thinking it’ll drop Fox News’ ratings, though it’ll cause MSNBC to count its viewers on one hand :P

Ukiah on March 12, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Smoke this…don’t smoke that…

Serve/Eat this…don’t serve/eat that…

Buy this product/service…don’t buy this product/service…
– Oh, you can’t afford it? Just cancel your cable, give up your cell phones (except the free Obamaphones I am handing out), stop eating out, don’t go to the movies, stop enjoying life and do nothing but work to pay for what the government mandates you purchase…

How about you but out, taking your intrusive, tyranical ‘Big Socialist Government’ and cramming it up your…

easyt65 on March 12, 2014 at 11:20 AM

His true “jump the shark” moment.

This smacks of a desperation we have never seen from a high profile politician.

The snake oil salesmen of old west days never sunk this low.

FireBlogger on March 12, 2014 at 11:21 AM

If both kids break a bone, it might run them $500 each to get treated

Ed, what color is the sky in your world?
http://health.costhelper.com/broken-arm.html

Reshape medicine toward a consumer driven competitive marketplace, and costs will go down, but rarely to that level.

elfman on March 12, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Obama is actually right in this clip, many people don’t prioritize health insurance the way they should. The problem is that this law compels them to while making it more expensive at the same time. It’s truly unbelievable.

eaglephin on March 12, 2014 at 11:29 AM

‘If the President actually believes that a family earning less than $40,000 per year can afford nearly $4,000 in health insurance premiums, then he truly does not understand middle-income families. Americans do not need the President to tell them how to budget their households.’

- Daniel Garza, Executive Director of The LIBRE Initiative

Ya think? That was readily apparent years ago when he complained about the price of arugula. Oh, and let’s not forget Michelle…

In February 2008, Byron York related the difficulties Michelle faced in getting by:

Michelle Obama is sitting with a group of six women around a table in the basement playroom of the Zanesville Day Nursery, here in economically troubled central Ohio. . . . . “It’s a constant sense of guilt,” Obama, dressed simply in a blue sweater with a triple strand of pearls, tells the women of her own dilemma as a working mother.

. . . .

“I know we’re spending — I added it up for the first time — we spend between the two kids, on extracurriculars outside the classroom, we’re spending about $10,000 a year on piano and dance and sports supplements and so on and so forth,” Mrs. Obama tells the women. “And summer programs. That’s the other huge cost. Barack is saying, ‘Whyyyyyy are we spending that?’ And I’m saying, ‘Do you know what summer camp costs?’”

With all those concerns, one might wonder whether the women should be comforting Mrs. Obama, but she assures them that she’s really O.K. “We don’t complain because we’ve got resources because of our education. We’ve got family structure,” she says. “So I tell people don’t cry for me.”

Don’t cry for me, Argentina.

Resist We Much on March 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Calling bull on that one, dear.

katy the mean old lady on March 12, 2014 at 10:55 AM

My niece had to have multiple surgeries on her elbow, after she slipped and fell. The fractured bones pinched her nerves, and destroyed a vein. They had to graft a vein from her leg, and required that she undergo a fasciotomy (to reduce pressure on her nerves) This happened in late August – and she still has plates and screws in her elbow.

Her bill is going to be a helluva lot higher than 35k. So you might want to reconsider your position.

Hill60 on March 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM

I could have sworn the Dems have previously tried to say that the poor now have the RIGHT to cell phones, internet, and cable TV.
It’s a right – so it can’t be taken away, in fact MUST be provided, by someone… Right?

Next step – EBT cards to pay your cell and cable bills, so YOUR money can go to 0bumblescare – well, except for all the people whose 0bumblescare is “subsidized” by us taxpayers.

dentarthurdent on March 12, 2014 at 11:33 AM

It’s funny that Obama thinks low-income people are paying for their own cable and cell phones.

AZCoyote on March 12, 2014 at 10:41 AM

Believe me, he isn’t talking about low-income people here. Those are “His” people! It’s us, the middle class that has to give up our cable and t.v. don’t you know!

wolverinefan on March 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Ed, could you please tell me where to get a broken bone fixed for $500? It cost me $17,000.

NHElle on March 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Pshaw, Obama replied. Why, all those low-income folks need to do is stop spending money on luxuries like cable television and cell phones!

Lena Dunham, Honey Boo-Boo hardest hit.

Ward Cleaver on March 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM

cable and cell phone that is

wolverinefan on March 12, 2014 at 11:43 AM

What happened to O’s promise of our new premiums being less than our cell phone bill?

I want the 2500% savings he also promised!

My cell phone bill is only around $60 / month. I’d call that “affordable healthcare”.

Oxymoron on March 12, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Oh, now he’s scolding people again who disagree with his policies! LOL. That should go over big.

PattyJ on March 12, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Yes. Stop communicating so you don’t know how bad it really is out there. This had better be the last ‘community organizer’ ever elected president.

TerryW on March 12, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Obama: Let them eat cake

Koa on March 12, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Maybe I can get an Obamaphone — Oh I need Obamacable too.

Axion on March 12, 2014 at 12:02 PM


Buck Farack

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Well an “Obama” phone is free, Guess it’s time for “Obama” cable

CBWV99 on March 12, 2014 at 12:11 PM

If you can’t get an appointment with a doctor what would you do? The emergency rooms are going to get busier with ObamaCare.

oldroy on March 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM

Hmm, I envision a blast from the distant pass, reviving an olde service for such times for those with an entrepreneurial spirit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2014 at 12:12 PM

This is what comes from electing/appointing/approving public officials who have no actual experience in dealing with “real-world” issues.

EdmundBurke247 on March 12, 2014 at 12:13 PM

What happened to O’s promise of our new premiums being less than our cell phone bill?

I want the 2500% savings he also promised!

My cell phone bill is only around $60 / month. I’d call that “affordable healthcare”.

Oxymoron on March 12, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Why is no one suing for fraud or misrepresentation?

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Why is no one suing for fraud or misrepresentation?

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 12:13 PM

That is something I would really like to see happen.

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Can’t the people just pay their cell phone and cable bills with the $2500 Obama-democrat Care savings?

I really don’t understand this. Could it be that Obama and every democrat lied and lied all the time about Obama-democrat care?

OAN, reminds me of the guy that asked King Barky the Incompetent about the fact gas had doubled since his regime had taken over. The guy said it was really hurting his family’s budget. Obama retorted that the guy should get a new truck with better gas mileage. The man is totally out of touch and perhaps just a little bit out of his mind.

jukin3 on March 12, 2014 at 12:17 PM

.@mckaycoppins @EdMorrissey Here’s what the video *mysteriously* cuts out from middle of clip. Kind of unlike you, Ed pic.twitter.com/4AQf6GJiZq

Yeah, Ed. Leave his boyfriend alone. What’s wrong with you?

Seriously, just imagine if Mitt Romney had said something remotely similar.

Now try to imagine the same people defending Mitt Romney.

Now quite laughing.

There Goes the Neighborhood on March 12, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Ed, what color is the sky in your world?
http://health.costhelper.com/broken-arm.html

Reshape medicine toward a consumer driven competitive marketplace, and costs will go down, but rarely to that level.

elfman on March 12, 2014 at 11:27 AM

I think he’s referring to the co-pay the family will have to pay, on top of the premiums already on the ledger.

The Schaef on March 12, 2014 at 12:19 PM

This entire Administration has been reduced to a bunch of
sniveling Brats…..every single question posed to them
they simply get Snotty, and condesending…sorry, but I don’t
know how most Democrat voters across this nation get up every
morning NOT wanting to hang themselves….

ToddPA on March 12, 2014 at 12:21 PM

“An Oklahoma man is facing over $100,000 in hospital bills because he lost his health insurance plan due to Obamacare.

Lenny Hubbs, a “healthy man,” as his wife describes him, is a self-employed contractor who was previously on his wife’s health insurance plan. Her employer announced that his employees would no longer be allowed to pay for their spouses’ premiums.

They could not afford to purchase health insurance. Lenny’s wife told KXII-TX that “good” health insurance would have cost them $500 a month. They do not qualify for Medicaid.

Hubbs became sick about two weeks ago. Doctors told him his lungs were filling with blood and diagnosed him with Pneumonia.

He visited two hospitals to seek treatment. The Hubbs allege that he did not receive proper treatment at either hospital because they were uninsured. He had to have part of his lung removed and now are stuck with upwards of $100,000 in hospital bills…”

http://freebeacon.com/oklahoma-man-loses-insurance-due-to-obamacare-owes-100k-in-bills/

workingclass artist on March 12, 2014 at 12:31 PM

This entire Administration has been reduced to a bunch of
sniveling Brats…..every single question posed to them
they simply get Snotty, and condesending…sorry, but I don’t
know how most Democrat voters across this nation get up every
morning NOT wanting to hang themselves….

ToddPA on March 12, 2014 at 12:21 PM

So many dem voters have been reduced by deliberate conditioning themselves to sniveling, snotty, condescending brats. So there is that. Bammy’s admin and those voters have much in common.

They’ve also been conditioned to wake up every morning wanting to hang, not themselves, but those who question, criticize and oppose Bammy and the dem as well as the 1%ers because the opposition and greedy rich billionaires and corporations are to blame for all this.

/SNARK

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Be careful, our White House monitors are watching….

d1carter on March 12, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Why is no one suing for fraud or misrepresentation?

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 12:13 PM

That is something I would really like to see happen.

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2014 at 12:15 PM

There is no cause of action against the government and/or politicians for fraud or misrepresentation. The government has immunity. Further, the issue of standing would be a complication even if there wasn’t immunity.

Resist We Much on March 12, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Resist We Much on March 12, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Federal Tort Claims Act

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

If you can’t get an appointment with a doctor what would you do? The emergency rooms are going to get busier with ObamaCare.

oldroy on March 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM

So true – the ERs will become even worse because of the very few doctors who accept MEDICAID. Apparently it pays even worse or slower than MEDICARE

katiejane on March 12, 2014 at 12:39 PM

What most people have missed, notwithstanding that Obamacare coverage is inferior to people’s previously private policies (which were based on their specific needs, not some Democrat in Congresses opinion on what an individual needs) it is not really “$300.00 a month”. There is a shell game going on here and it is called “taxes”.

A big part of the reason it is only “$300.00 a month” is that most people are paying several other new taxes under another guise (or should I say “ruse”?) that Democrats don’t add in when they start quoting that number.

My guess is when you add other taxes an Obamacare participant pays in related taxes- we are well above the fictitious $300.00 a month” people like Mr. Obama keep quoting.

Marcus Traianus on March 12, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Is it just me, or does this remind anyone of another President, who in defending his horrid clueless and harmful policies regarding energy informed us all to simply “wear a sweater”. I would remind our Democratic friends, all of their potential 2016 candidates worked at high level in the administration, and really cannot be shielded from that. I would remind Republicans, Conservatives and Libertarians. Hillary, Rahm Emanuel etc were all major players in Obamaland. Hit them hard, hit them early, hit them often. Never let the public forget their ties to Obama, the administration, and it’s policies. Make them take ownership of every one. If Hilary runs, make sure everyone knows Obamacare began with her. If Emanel runs make sure they know his brother wrote the damn thing!

patches on March 12, 2014 at 12:45 PM

My niece broke her arm requiring emergency surgery. Total cost north of 35k dollars. That was one expensive cartwheel.

Imrahil on March 12, 2014 at 10:25 AM

Jeepers…what did they do? Reattach Nolan Ryan’s right arm to your niece???

bimmcorp on March 12, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Cancel his phone…OK, then, how does he call 911?

ProfShadow on March 12, 2014 at 12:47 PM

I’d love to know where this family of four lives that is paying only $300/ month. We’re paying 4X that. And I wish people ( and the President) would stop referring to “free” healthcare. Someone is paying for it.

hopeful on March 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Federal Tort Claims Act

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

I’ll have to look up the caselaw for you when I get a chance, but there are several cases where the Court has ruled that a citizen cannot sue a politician or the federal government for fraud, misrepresentation, lying, and/or failure to keep campaign promises.

Resist We Much on March 12, 2014 at 12:50 PM

I’d love to know where this family of four lives that is paying only $300/ month. We’re paying 4X that. And I wish people ( and the President) would stop referring to “free” healthcare. Someone is paying for it.

hopeful on March 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Ya – I still have a company sponsored policy where the company pays about 80% of the premiums – and my cost is still almost $300 a month for just me and the wife.

dentarthurdent on March 12, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Ed, could you please tell me where to get a broken bone fixed for $500? It cost me $17,000.

NHElle on March 12, 2014 at 11:42 AM

I laughed at that too. Ed must not have kids. Just taking my son in for a jammed finger cost hundreds.

Third-party payer (old or new system) has led to gigantic bills.

The same goes for car insurance. A friend dented the rear quater panel of a car and one estimate came back at $8000. $7000 was the threshold for totaling it.

mankai on March 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM

I’ve been telling people forever to call their cable, cell phone, and internet providers and tell them you need to scale back your service to pay for Obamacare. Comcast owns NBC. Comcast is buying Time Warner cable, too. If these companies start hearing their customers saying they need to scale back plans to fund their health insurance, they are going to start pressuring the Democrats.

Maybe NBC will start offering some pushback.

crosspatch on March 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM

And yet, despite his blisteringly condescending dismissal of financial concerns, minorities will again vote for his political fellow travelers.
Because foolishness.

orangemtl on March 12, 2014 at 1:04 PM

If you can’t get an appointment with a doctor what would you do? The emergency rooms are going to get busier with ObamaCare.

oldroy on March 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM

The ER would be my last choice.
I’ve been to the ER twice in the last 6 years.
The first I put a broken drill bit through my finger – they got me in right away and did a decent job with it.
The second, I had called my doctor about my blood pressure being kind of high (175/125 ballpark) and he told me to go to the ER. After waiting 2 hours and many other sick or hurt people ahead of me still waiting in the ER waiting room (oxymoron?) I gave up and went home. On the way out, the nurse said something to me about the risk of dying if I left. I told her if it was really that bad, they would have done something in the last 2 hours and I’d rather die at home than sitting in their ER waiting room with nothing being done.

dentarthurdent on March 12, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Here’s the lie he can’t resist telling, in the last line of the WH lackey’s response:

a large portion of people will be able to find health insurance for $100 or less

That is utter BS based on what we’ve seen so far.
Though, to be fair, he could be channeling his inner Bill Clinton, and this pivots around the meaning of “large” in that sentence.

GWB on March 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM

a citizen cannot sue a politician or the federal government for fraud, misrepresentation, lying, and/or failure to keep campaign promises.

Well, no wonder government and politics are attractive to scoundrels, lairs, frauds and thieves. A perfect haven.

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2014 at 1:11 PM

There is no cause of action against the government and/or politicians for fraud or misrepresentation.

Well, other than booting them out at the polls, any other cause of action wouldn’t be pretty, I’d guess.

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2014 at 1:13 PM

I told her if it was really that bad, they would have done something in the last 2 hours and I’d rather die at home than sitting in their ER waiting room with nothing being done.

dentarthurdent on March 12, 2014 at 1:04 PM

BTW – for the benefit of any libtard trolls lurking in here, just so you know – I didn’t die…..

dentarthurdent on March 12, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Darn iPad autocorrect. My son was born in 2012.

Charlemagne

Good to know … for a moment there, we thought you were in the Mob.

BD57 on March 12, 2014 at 1:24 PM

BTW – for the benefit of any libtard trolls lurking in here, just so you know – I didn’t die…..

dentarthurdent on March 12, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Prove it!

mankai on March 12, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Prove it!

mankai on March 12, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Sorry, I can’t.
Here ya go – no link to an obituary….

dentarthurdent on March 12, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Just cancel your cable. Just cancel your phone. Just sell your house, your wife, your car. Just live in a mud hut and eat rice and beans. Just tell 80 year old Aunt Bessie to take a pain pill instead of getting a hip replacement.

Naw, there’s no rationing under socialized medicine. None whatsoever.

Ruckus_Tom on March 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Isn’t this the same jerk who said people can save gas by inflating their tires?
Yeah I thought…what an idiot!

Pelosi Schmelosi on March 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Isn’t this the same jerk who said people can save gas by inflating their tires?
Yeah I thought…what an idiot!

Pelosi Schmelosi on March 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM

And yet he remains in the WH for a couple more years. Such an idiot with a pen and a phone is a dangerous thing, especially when no one evidently is willing to stop him from using those instruments.

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Obama couldn’t settle on a single answer to the question, so he instead suggested that the man should just sign up for Medicaid, blamed Texas for affordable insurance not being available,

If Obama is equating my state with the Koch Brothers, Fox News, and others who equally obstructive against his horrible agenda then even more that ever I’m proud to call myself a Texan.

TEXAS ROCKS!

neyney on March 12, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Just cancel your cable. Just cancel your phone. Just sell your house, your wife, your car. Just live in a mud hut and eat rice and beans. Just tell 80 year old Aunt Bessie to take a pain pill instead of getting a hip replacement.

Naw, there’s no rationing under socialized medicine. None whatsoever.

Ruckus_Tom on March 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM

I would get a better ROI leasing out the wife instead of an out-right sale.

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Apologies to my Hispanic friends if this translation is a bit rough but I just wanted to say you voted for this loser therefore

abrazar la mamada

Gracias!

neyney on March 12, 2014 at 1:43 PM

The progressive idea of freedom is you are free to live your life as you please just as long as you spend your money and act as we accept and tell you.

ojfltx on March 12, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Newseum?

Did they spell ad nauseam incorrectly? LOL

Fallon on March 12, 2014 at 1:47 PM

He also attacks the states that refused to go along with Medicaid expansion, although at $36K a year that’s probably a non-sequitur.

I’ve got a few minutes, I can do the math.

How much was Medicaid being expanded?
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacares-medicaid-expansion.php
138% of the Federal Poverty Level.

For 2014 the Federal Poverty level for a single man is:
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/14poverty.cfm
$11,670

138% of 11,670 = $16,104.

If your income as a single person (as the caller was) is over $16,104 you don’t qualify.

So yes, he’s about $20,000 into non-sequitur-land.

gekkobear on March 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Priorities matter, but they did before Obamacare as well…

If I were a Republican strategist, I would use this as fodder for an ad that would likely resonate with many….”Obamacare raised the price of health insurance by $X and now the president wants you to sacrifice your lifestyle for his poor policy decisions” Something along these lines would resonate with many LIVs…

Entrephil on March 12, 2014 at 1:49 PM

SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!

Our king/president is preaching… Personal Responsibility/Choices?

When it comes to our finance/spending choices?

I thought that we were owed things and didn’t have to pay for things (free phones, free healthcare, free foodstamps, free transport etc..)

I thought that we deserved free stuff from those rich people who don’t … ya know.. pay their ‘fair share’. And those evil companies that dare to charge money for what they sell.

Shades of our dear king’s advice to pump up your tires to save on fuel costs (goodness knows that our administration would not ever want gas prices to actually go down).

glidingone on March 12, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Just cancel your cable. Just cancel your phone. Just sell your house, your wife, your car. Just live in a mud hut and eat rice and beans. Just tell 80 year old Aunt Bessie to take a pain pill instead of getting a hip replacement.
Ruckus_Tom on March 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Thanks to the EPA (see new EPA thread in the right side column) there won’t be any rice or beans available either – too much water required to grow them.
So, there’s a little more money available for your 0bumblescare premiums….

dentarthurdent on March 12, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Don’t tangle with the White House, Ed.

Chicago “Bang Bang”.

portlandon on March 12, 2014 at 1:58 PM

I am oh so sure all those bobble heads at CABLE news outlet/propaganda mouthpiece MSNBC are all in agreement that everyone get rid of their cable so as to afford Obozocare!

Right!

pilamaye on March 12, 2014 at 2:04 PM

I would get a better ROI leasing out the wife instead of an out-right sale.

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 1:41 PM

As she used the hedge-trimmer lately? Not really into vintage 70′s.

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Don’t tangle with the White House, Ed.

Chicago “Bang Bang”.

portlandon on March 12, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Yeah, they might treat him like he treated Schadenfreude.

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 2:08 PM

The Act was passed following the 1945 B-25 Empire State Building crash, where a bomber piloted in thick fog by Lieutenant Colonel William F. Smith, Jr. crashed into the north side of the Empire State Building. As NPR reported, “Eight months after the crash, the U.S. government offered money to families of the victims. Some accepted, but others initiated a lawsuit that resulted in landmark legislation. The Federal Tort Claims Act of 1946, for the first time, gave American citizens the right to sue the federal government.”[6] Although the crash was not the initial catalyst for the bill, which had been pending in Congress for more than two decades, the statute was made retroactive to 1945 in order to allow victims of that crash to seek recovery.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Tort_Claims_Act

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Ed’s fine. Let it go.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Yeah, they might treat him like he treated Schadenfreude.

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 2:08 PM

=(

Where have you gone, Shadenfreude,Hotair turns its lonely eyes to you…..(Woo, woo, woo)

portlandon on March 12, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Hi.

portlandon on March 12, 2014 at 2:11 PM

portlandon, you call and the Lord answers you :)

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Amen, Friend.

portlandon on March 12, 2014 at 2:20 PM

(((Schadenfreude)))

Glad to see you’ve been resurrected. :-)

Fallon on March 12, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Yay!

Hill60 on March 12, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Nutstuyu on March 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

I am aware of the Act.

Think about it: If it were so easy to sue politicians and the Federal government, you’d be able to rattle off a list of cases. Hell, Bush would have been sued for ‘lying’ about WMD in Iraq. Clinton would have been sued by someone unassociated with Paula Jones/Monica Lewinsky for lying to the American public. Bush the Elder would have been sued for lying about not raising taxes.

Even under the Tort Act, which only opened the door ever so slightly, you still must have standing, which means you have to prove actual harm…and a politician lying to you is NOT considered an actual harm.

If any citizen could sue Obama and the Democrats for their lies about Obamacare, don’t you think someone like Jay Sekulow, Mark Levin or Larry Klayman would have already done so?

Of course, if you believe you have a cause of action and standing to sue them for fraud or misrepresentation, then go ahead. I wish you all the luck in the world.

Resist We Much on March 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM

But if I cancel my cell phone service, I won’t be able to get Presidential Alerts.

BobMbx on March 12, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Let’s not forget when Mrs Messiah went to a county in Ohio with a median family income of about $30,000 and whined about how tough it is to make ends meet what with summer camp, private school and ballet lessons costing $10,000 a year.

jvermeer on March 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Are we really that surprised that Barack Obama is that arrogant, haughty, and full of hubris?

Athos on March 12, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:09PM

Cooler heads prevail.My day is made.I always look forward to your posts,mosts

SweetSensationalist on March 12, 2014 at 2:34 PM

I doubt most people could function in society without a phone. There aren’t many pay phones around anymore. Anyone with kids is going to need a phone to be contacted in case of an emergency. You probably won’t find or keep a job without a phone and access to email.

edrebber on March 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM

I always look forward to your posts

Thank you

,mosts

SweetSensationalist on March 12, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Ignore the rest, and cheers!

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Fallon on March 12, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Lent, and thank you.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:39 PM

He is treading on thin ice telling his entitlement-minded supporters that they might have to do without their cell-phones or cable tv.
Now if he would only threaten their internet usage they would probably run him out of town.

Sterling Holobyte on March 12, 2014 at 2:40 PM

If you want your Obamacare plan then just disconnect from the rest of the world, get rid of modern interactive services, and depend on the US MAIL!

Genius!

And with your electricity rates necessarily skyrocketing, just LIVE OFF THE GRID while you’re at it.

Yessireebob! That is one great Progressive Socialist you got there!

ajacksonian on March 12, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Whatever happened to the $2500 savings? Sounded like more premium channels and minutes were just around the Obamacare corner–instead it’s cancellations?

Barnestormer on March 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

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