Rand Paul to Ted Cruz: Stop mischaracterizing my foreign policy views

posted at 2:01 pm on March 11, 2014 by Allahpundit

A contrast in styles. Skip to 2:20 below for the key bit. Cruz, I’ve noticed, tends to avoid direct confrontation with Republican colleagues during public appearances. Whenever he’s asked by a reporter about McCain or McConnell, he prefaces his answer with a bunch of caveats about how he “likes” or “respects” them and then steers the conversation towards less personal terms about differing views, etc. When he does attack, the target tends to be unnamed groups, like “the surrender caucus,” rather than individuals. (Indicting Dole, McCain, and Romney by name last week at CPAC for not campaigning as conservatives was a rare exception.) Here’s how he replied last night to Paul’s op-eds in Time and Breitbart criticizing Russia and Reagan-esque poseurs like Cruz:

“Although some would like to play up divisions among Republicans, I have no desire to play their game,” Cruz said. “Rand Paul is a courageous voice for liberty, and I’m honored to call him my friend. We do not agree on everything, especially regarding foreign policy, but we have agreed on the vast majority of issues, and I am sure we will continue to do so. Substantive policy disagreements are a positive aspect of the political discourse, but in the fight for liberty, I am proud to stand with Rand.”

Paul’s approach is different. He’s more willing to engage directly and tends to skip the studious, almost affected politeness with which Cruz always begins when discussing his political enemies. When Christie took an oblique shot at him last year over the NSA, Paul fired right back, and on it went for several rounds culminating in Paul calling Christie “the bacon king” for his spending habits. Same thing again this week. After Cruz repeated his talking point that he and Paul don’t see eye to eye on foreign policy at an event last week, Paul volleyed with two op-eds on the same day, one attacking Cruz in everything but name, plus an interview last night on “Hannity” to warn Cruz again not to “mischaracterize” him. Whether their contrasting styles are a pure product of personality or of something more, I don’t know. Dave Weigel wrote recently that certain subjects reliably rattle Paul; Cruz never seems rattled. Maybe there’s a strategic element to all of it: Cruz, who gets rapped as a “kamikaze conservative,” might be at pains in his interviews to be agreeable and nonconfrontational to defuse that impression. Paul, who gets rapped for being “soft” in his foreign policy, might go out of his way to brawl with critics to prove that he isn’t. Cruz’s role in the “defund” effort last fall and the ensuing shutdown is arguably his biggest liability as a major candidate. Ron Paul’s foreign policy pronouncements are probably Paul’s biggest liability, at least in the primaries. Their confrontation strategies seek to minimize those liabilities in different ways.

Anyway, returning to Cruz’s statement quoted above, foremost among the “some” who’d like to play up divisions among Republicans is … Ted Cruz, no? His statement sounds magnanimous but it repeats, yet again, the point he wants everyone to take away from all this: On foreign policy, Paul and I are different. There are divisions. (And really, there are.) The goal here is to Other-ize Paul by subtly suggesting that his views aren’t mainstream while Paul’s goal, of course, is to claim that they are. That’s how you end up with the odd spectacle below of a budding presidential candidate, eager to set himself apart from his opponents in every other way, emphasizing that his views on a hot topic like Crimea aren’t much different from any other Republican’s. Let’s hope he’s wrong: Per Patrick Brennan, Paul’s plan to counter Russia is vague in some key ways and flatly delusional in others.

The heads of Cruz’s and Paul’s respective staffs are meeting today to try to iron this out. Hmmmm.


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Not sure why I should care about what Dave Wiegel thinks but its clear to most people that Rand son of Ron has inherited quite a few of Ron’s personality traits. He isn’t afraid to mix it up and is supremely confident in his viewpoints.

JQA on March 11, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Two talkers – talking about one another. Typical members of Congress.

Talk – Talk – Talk – Talk

jake-the-goose on March 11, 2014 at 2:06 PM

I’m getting tired of this, but I suppose it’s inevitable. I wish we could follow Reagan’s 11th commandment. OT: Issa said they have all the evidence they need from the IRS docs.

John the Libertarian on March 11, 2014 at 2:08 PM

John the Libertarian on March 11, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Well said sir.

jake-the-goose on March 11, 2014 at 2:09 PM

I’m getting tired of this, but I suppose it’s inevitable. I wish we could follow Reagan’s 11th commandment. OT: Issa said they have all the evidence they need from the IRS docs.

John the Libertarian on March 11, 2014 at 2:08 PM

All of the evidence they need to do what?

Hold a hearing?

Go on Greta?

Wait until Obama is out of office to take any action?

Allow IRS officials to retire with only 3/4 pension?

JQA on March 11, 2014 at 2:10 PM

not sure why quotes turned into line strikes.

JQA on March 11, 2014 at 2:14 PM

I like both these men. Hopefully they can work it out between themselves. We can’t spare either of them.

Caiwyn on March 11, 2014 at 2:14 PM

jake-the-goose on March 11, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Not surprised to see Jake-the-goose continue to try to badmouth Cruz, since he normally promotes pro-amnesty governors for the nomination.

bluegill on March 11, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Paul learn a valuable lesson this week. And that is Ted Cruz is a Scorpion. I stay at night praying for mike lee, because God only knows how and when this scorpion will stoke him while hitching a ride on his back. Lets pray that mike lee figure crap out before he becomes collateral damage.

coolrepublica on March 11, 2014 at 2:16 PM

This is like taking sides about who you liked better: The Beatles or The Stones?

Why are they playing?

ncinca on March 11, 2014 at 2:16 PM

When are we going to stop trotting out the 11th commandment? Reagan challenged a sitting president for pete’s sake.

dforston on March 11, 2014 at 2:17 PM

bluegill on March 11, 2014 at 2:15 PM

There ya’ go again…makin’ crap up.

What a hagfish.

cozmo on March 11, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Stop lying about my record!” – Bob Dole

myiq2xu on March 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Let’s see — Rand Paul believes a nuclear Iran isn’t a threat.

crosspatch on March 11, 2014 at 2:22 PM

When Christie took an oblique shot at him last year over the NSA, Paul fired right back, and on it went for several rounds culminating in Paul calling Christie “the bacon king” for his spending habits. Same thing again this week. After Cruz repeated his talking point that he and Paul don’t see eye to eye on foreign policy at an event last week, Paul volleyed with two op-eds on the same day, one attacking Cruz in everything but name, plus an interview last night on “Hannity” to warn Cruz again not to “mischaracterize” him.

Don’t we already have a thin skinned president?

V7_Sport on March 11, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Rand is kind of a whiny little punk, huh?

portlandon on March 11, 2014 at 2:24 PM

I’m getting tired of this, but I suppose it’s inevitable. I wish we could follow Reagan’s 11th commandment. OT: Issa said they have all the evidence they need from the IRS docs.

John the Libertarian on March 11, 2014 at 2:08 PM

I respect both Paul and Cruz, so I try to stay out of these online debates. Hopefully Cruz and Paul can iron this out, at least until the real 2016 primary season starts up. Now’s not the time to be fighting each-other.

Having said that, I generally prefer Paul and his style to Cruz’s, but Cruz comes out looking better in this scuffle.

midgeorgian on March 11, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Paul learn a valuable lesson this week. And that is Ted Cruz is a Scorpion.

coolrepublica on March 11, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Actually Cruz is a capricorn.

When it comes to foreign policy, Rand Paul is as looney as his racist dad. Isolationism and lack of engagement in the world is not only a stupid dangerous idea but it is unrealistic. Paul’s adherence to this philosophy under the moronic bumper sticker slogan of not being the world police makes him unfit for the Presidency as far as I’m concerned.

Happy Nomad on March 11, 2014 at 2:29 PM

And that is Ted Cruz is a Scorpion. I stay at night praying for mike lee, because God only knows how and when this scorpion will stoke him while hitching a ride on his back. Lets pray that mike lee figure crap out before he becomes collateral damage.

coolrepublica on March 11, 2014 at 2:16 PM

There ya’ go again…makin’ crap up.

cozmo on March 11, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Kimberlina on March 11, 2014 at 2:30 PM

It would appear that Sen. Cruz’s answer to what his views are on both foreign and domestic polices are:

“I am the reincarnation of Ronald Reagan, and everybody else is not..”

smokin hot politics on March 11, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Not surprised to see Jake-the-goose continue to try to badmouth Cruz, since he normally promotes pro-amnesty governors for the nomination.

bluegill on March 11, 2014 at 2:15 PM

You’re a human parrot. But at least you are predictable.

jake-the-goose on March 11, 2014 at 2:32 PM

I always felt Rand would have some tendencies like his dad. Which has been one of my concerns all along. Ron Paul has always been good about stating 4 things you agreed with getting you saying, “this man is smart.” Then he would state a 5th item that would sink the whole conversation having you saying,”this guy is a NUT!”

While I don’t know who is really better for our country yet, either one would be better than the POS we have now.

Nat George on March 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM

When are we going to stop trotting out the 11th commandment? Reagan challenged a sitting president for pete’s sake.

dforston on March 11, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Please read a History book… The President Reagan Challenged, was never elected to office, he was the former Speaker of the House, who became President when Nixon resigned. Ergo, a man with no legitimate electoral claim to the office of POTUS. Furthermore, Reagan’s 11th commandment has absolutely nothing to do with challenging fellow republicans, and everything to do with engaging in the politics of personal destruction against fellow republicans.

oscarwilde on March 11, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Let’s see — Rand Paul believes a nuclear Iran isn’t a threat.

crosspatch on March 11, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Link, or admit that you cannot…

JohnGalt23 on March 11, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Its OK, Rand Paul still has his Shroud of Reagan to keep him protected.

astonerii on March 11, 2014 at 2:36 PM

This is so true.

terryannonline on March 11, 2014 at 2:36 PM

When are we going to stop trotting out the 11th commandment? Reagan challenged a sitting president for pete’s sake.

dforston on March 11, 2014 at 2:17 PM

A sitting President that had never been elected to the Presidency on a national ticket. A President that pardoned Nixon, which made him unpopular even with some Republicans. An inside-the-beltway career politician who had a fundamentally different view of the world (which is why we have primaries).

Happy Nomad on March 11, 2014 at 2:37 PM

@happynomad. Lol. You know what is funny. Rand Paul came out wih his ideas on how he would deal with Russia and then ron Paul was interviewed and basically said he doesn’t agree with any of them, but yet here you are telling us that they are the same man sharing one hrs and one way of thinking. Ted Cruz’ s dad is on tape saying some pretty racist things that Ted Cruz jr had to distance himself from, but I am not going to hold my breath for your post calling senator Ted Cruz a racist, crazy, ex Marxist because his father is seeing as such.

coolrepublica on March 11, 2014 at 2:37 PM

I always felt Rand would have some tendencies like his dad. Which has been one of my concerns all along. Ron Paul has always been good about stating 4 things you agreed with getting you saying, “this man is smart.” Then he would state a 5th item that would sink the whole conversation having you saying,”this guy is a NUT!”

Nat George on March 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Funny, you put to words my own experiences. One problem with members of Congress walking to the Rotunda for TV interviews each and every day – they have to remain consistent – which is hard for anyone as issues and circumstances change on those issues.

jake-the-goose on March 11, 2014 at 2:39 PM

jake-the-goose on March 11, 2014 at 2:32 PM

I believe you just insulted parrots.

cozmo on March 11, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Its OK, Rand Paul still has his Shroud of Reagan to keep him protected.

astonerii on March 11, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Nah, Ted Cruz has the Shroud of Reagan. He wears it when boring us with the story about his communist father having five bucks sewed into his underpants.

Punchenko on March 11, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Just what we need, another Libertarian nutter.

Mr. Arrogant on March 11, 2014 at 2:41 PM

While I don’t know who is really better for our country yet, either one would be better than the POS we have now.

Nat George on March 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM

I’m still not a fan of electing anbody from the Senate- particularly first termers. Look how that’s turned out Obama and JFK were both lousy Presidents. However, Jeb Bush and the fat man seem to be the only governors really being pushed and I’m not sure how that would be better.

Personally, the idea of Dr. Ben Carson is appealing. At least I want to hear more of what he has to say?

Happy Nomad on March 11, 2014 at 2:43 PM

I believe you just insulted parrots.

cozmo on March 11, 2014 at 2:41 PM

D’oh

jake-the-goose on March 11, 2014 at 2:43 PM

I like how Ted Cruz stakes out a position in the middle between John McCain and Rand Paul. Very Obama-esque, that Ted Cruz. Very Harvard Law.

Punchenko on March 11, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Mr. Arrogant on March 11, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Just what we need. Another arrogant ass.

cozmo on March 11, 2014 at 2:48 PM

I’m a Rand guy, never hid that fact.

But they’re both in the wrong.

This all comes down to Rand’s wife, who used to work for Cruz, and Rand’s staff. She’s a PR maven and as tough as nails and the groupies are too Ronian in mindset and tactics.

If Paul goes under, and he can, it will be because of the people encircling him. They have screwed him up on several occasions already. He needs to fire replace more people now, or else he’s heading down the same path as Romney, McCain and W, surrounded by self-serving, power hungry, sycophants.

As for Cruz, his cordial tone is waaayyy too DC. Whether he’s sincere or not is moot.

budfox on March 11, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Let’s see — Rand Paul believes a nuclear Iran isn’t a threat.

crosspatch on March 11, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Link, or admit that you cannot…

JohnGalt23 on March 11, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Don’t want to waste time looking for link but Paul said as much on FOXNEWS several times and one of his followers Bowling has said the same

KBird on March 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM

After Cruz repeated his talking point that he and Paul don’t see eye to eye on foreign policy at an event last week,

So, they DO see eye to eye then?

xblade on March 11, 2014 at 3:03 PM

Actually Cruz is a capricorn.

Rand, too, is a capricorn. Maybe that is part of the problem–they are too much alike in their ambitions. However, it seems to me that Rand feels he needs to confront issues quickly to tamp down accusations that he is too much like his dad. That is fine. My problem is that I think Rand is really keeping the extent of his libertarianism under wraps. I’m especially concerned when I see is father’s fans all over the web tearing down anybody who disagrees with Rand. Do you think they know something the rest of us don’t??

KickandSwimMom on March 11, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Cruz is a rhetorical bomb-thrower. That’s his style. He gets attention with stark and aggressively controversial statements, and makes his points from there.

But there is little reason for him, at this point, to pretend that he is on good terms with other Senators, except perhaps Mike Lee of Utah. He doesn’t attend the GOP Caucus meetings. He doesn’t consult with any of his colleagues (except maybe Lee). Cruz has stated outright that he didn’t come to DC to make friends and, judging by his actions, he enjoys making enemies.

The Senate tradition of faux comity aside, I wish he would focus one day on Harry Reid instead of other Republicans. But I’m not his target audience.

~~~

Not sure why I should care about what Dave Wiegel thinks but its clear to most people that Rand son of Ron has inherited quite a few of Ron’s personality traits. He isn’t afraid to mix it up and is supremely confident in his viewpoints.

JQA on March 11, 2014 at 2:06 PM

I’ve come to the conclusion that Weigel must pick up a lot of lunch checks with his expense account to get the undeserved respect of so many conservative bloggers. There is no other explanation. Remember, the only reason he outed “Journ-O-List” is because the others were accusing him of being conservative because his assignment then at WaPo was covering conservatives. It ticked him off big time.

Rand is an identical clone of Ron with a smoother exterior, that’s all. Through many years of campaigning for his Dad, he repeatedly stated there is no policy difference between them, with emphasis. It’s just Sugar-coated Libertarianism™ – now in Tropical Fruit flavors!

Adjoran on March 11, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Can. not. stand. Paul.

A. complete. sellout. from. the. beginning.

His very decision to run happened after Daddy decided to retire and pave the way for Sonny Boy by making nicey nice with Romney.

Followed by Paul fils making nicey nice with Romney, McConnell, Rove, and whoever else he has to kiss to sell himself completely out.

Not. to. be. trusted.

At. all.

Very. dangerous.

Conservatives, do NOT be fooled.

That is all.

hrh40 on March 11, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Conservatives have enough to do fighting socialists and Rino’s. They shouldn’t be sniping at each other. If they should happen to end up in a debate together then they can point out each other’s differences. Pull together, people.

crankyoldlady on March 11, 2014 at 3:38 PM

The people who have an insane foreign policy view are the Kerenskyite Neo-Cons who want to reshape the world in their own image, just like their collectivist brethren in the Democrat party do.

How long are Republicans going to hold their nose and keep voting for global communists, because the communists on the other side of this false political divide mainly talk about imposing communism domestically?

Another Libertarian on March 11, 2014 at 3:42 PM

I’m still not a fan of electing anbody from the Senate- particularly first termers. Look how that’s turned out Obama and JFK were both lousy Presidents. However, Jeb Bush and the fat man seem to be the only governors really being pushed and I’m not sure how that would be better.

Personally, the idea of Dr. Ben Carson is appealing. At least I want to hear more of what he has to say?

Happy Nomad on March 11, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Totally agree with your first point.

The Presidency is an executive office and requires … REQUIRES … executive experience.

But your last sentence baffles me.

The Presidency is also an elected office and requires … REQUIRES … some time in public elected office to understand the differences from the private sector.

Dr. Carson has never run for any office at any level. He has never served in an elected public office at any level. He has great private sector experience … in healthcare.

So.

He’d be PERFECT for:

1. Secretary of Health and Human Services
2. Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
3. U.S. Surgeon General

But not president.

hrh40 on March 11, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Actually Cruz is a capricorn.

Capricorns are not confrontational. They tend to work around road blocks. I find Cruz to be extremely intelligent and clever. And well brought up while I’m at it.

crankyoldlady on March 11, 2014 at 3:46 PM

As a conservative purist, I have compiled a list of those Reupblican presidential wannabes I will nevervote for in Nvember 2016.Whiny,amoral, loon Rand Paul-you have made my list.

redware on March 11, 2014 at 3:51 PM

I don’t want to hear what a candidate thinks another candidate has said. Your opinion is irrelevant. I only want to hear what you believe: clearly, precisely and directly. Then “I” will decide which one gets my approval.

leader4hru on March 11, 2014 at 3:54 PM

However, it seems to me that Rand feels he needs to confront issues quickly to tamp down accusations that he is too much like his dad. That is fine. My problem is that I think Rand is really keeping the extent of his libertarianism under wraps.
KickandSwimMom on March 11, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Cruz was defining Paul as being on one end of the foreign policy spectrum. As any politician with nation ambitions should do, Paul doesn’t want another politician to define who he is, so gave a response to Cruz. Cruz comes out looking better than Paul here, but nobody should have expected Paul to just ignore Cruz’s original comments.

I respect both Paul and Cruz, hopefully they can put this behind them for the time being.

midgeorgian on March 11, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Let’s see — Rand Paul believes a nuclear Iran isn’t a threat.

crosspatch on March 11, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Looking at it sensibly I can’t say I disagree with him. Even if Iran has the bomb they won’t drop it on anybody because they know if they did they would be wiped off the face of the earth. They want it to look relevant and tough to the rest of the world and especially their neighbors. They are a threat but not necessarily to us and not necessarily because they have joined the nuclear club.

That doesn’t mean I would vote for Paul.

crankyoldlady on March 11, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Ted Cruz was born Dec. 22, 1970.

That makes him a scorpion or a capricorn?

Kimberlina on March 11, 2014 at 3:56 PM

I always felt Rand would have some tendencies like his dad. Which has been one of my concerns all along. Ron Paul has always been good about stating 4 things you agreed with getting you saying, “this man is smart.” Then he would state a 5th item that would sink the whole conversation having you saying,”this guy is a NUT!”

While I don’t know who is really better for our country yet, either one would be better than the POS we have now.

Nat George on March 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM

A perfect assessment of Ron Paul. Very good.

crankyoldlady on March 11, 2014 at 4:00 PM

I don’t want to hear what a candidate thinks another candidate has said. Your opinion is irrelevant. I only want to hear what you believe: clearly, precisely and directly. Then “I” will decide which one gets my approval.

leader4hru on March 11, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Cruz placed Paul on one end of the foreign policy spectrum opposite of McCain, why shouldn’t Paul to that? Paul laid out his foreign policy views yesterday; you don’t have to agree with him, but he was pretty clear.

midgeorgian on March 11, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Everyone is talking about alternatives to Rand Paul for president, but no one can think of any. If it isn’t Rand Paul, it’s going to be President Hillary Clinton. No more decisions made by the current Republican high-and-mighty are ever going to work; Bush was their last win.

Whatever it takes, the Republican party leadership needs to go- or the Republican Party itself will.

Another Libertarian on March 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM

jake-the-goose on March 11, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Not surprised to see Jake-the-goose continue to try to badmouth Cruz, since he normally promotes pro-amnesty governors for the nomination.

blueballs on March 11, 2014 at 2:15 PM

…which ‘govenors‘ has Jake promoted?…pray tell…

KOOLAID2 on March 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM

I don’t think Cruz is going to run for President any time soon. He needs to be the leader in the Senate. I would not underestimate Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. I think they both know what they are doing.

lea on March 11, 2014 at 4:11 PM

As a conservative purist, I have compiled a list of those Reupblican presidential wannabes I will nevervote for in Nvember 2016.Whiny,amoral, loon Rand Paul-you have made my list.

redware on March 11, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Don’t worry about voting for Rand Paul, Jeb Bush will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will be elected president.

Maybe I’m pessimistic, but it’s 2014 and conservatives are already divided over 2016.

midgeorgian on March 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Two talkers – talking about one another. Typical members of Congress.

Talk – Talk – Talk – Talk

jake-the-goose on March 11, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Well, they’re both career politicians…what do you expect?

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 11, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Paul seems to come across as whiny and petulant to me. I also don’t agree with his libertarian “head in the sand” attitude when it comes to foreign policy. Sorry, but just like his nut-job Dad was, he’s not Presidential material. A good Senator maybe, but again, not Presidential material here….

Bob Davis on March 11, 2014 at 4:44 PM

I oppose Rand Paul because he supports open-borders, which is an existential threat to the US and our Constitutional rights. Like Scott Walker, Rand would just let hundreds of millions of foreign nationals move in and take over the country without a fight! You can’t get weaker on national security than that! I’m otherwise sympathetic to Rand’s less interventionist, less nation-building foreign policy and support his full throated defense of our Constitutional rights. Open-borders kills the deal.

FloatingRock on March 11, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Ted Cruz was born Dec. 22, 1970.

That makes him a scorpion or a capricorn?

Kimberlina on March 11, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Cruz’ birth date places him on the cusp of Sagittarius/Capricorn.

KickandSwimMom on March 11, 2014 at 5:07 PM

The apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree. The fact that Paul doesn’t discuss his foreign policy ideas lead me to believe he might, like his father, be closer to McGovern than Reagan on foreign policy

Brock Robamney on March 11, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Fun facts: 1) Ron Paul endorsed Cruz in the GOP primary.

2) Ted Cruz praised Ron Paul in his CPAC speech.

3) Ted Cruz’ father fought for Castro.

I like them both and would enthusiastically vote for either, but I prefer Rand.

iwasbornwithit on March 11, 2014 at 5:31 PM

When are we going to stop trotting out the 11th commandment? Reagan challenged a sitting president for pete’s sake.

dforston on March 11, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Please read a History book… The President Reagan Challenged, was never elected to office, he was the former Speaker of the House, who became President when Nixon resigned. Ergo, a man with no legitimate electoral claim to the office of POTUS. Furthermore, Reagan’s 11th commandment has absolutely nothing to do with challenging fellow republicans, and everything to do with engaging in the politics of personal destruction against fellow republicans.

oscarwilde on March 11, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Ironic, since a history book would tell you that Ford was never the Speaker of the House, but spent eight years as a Minority Leader of the House. Plus, he was elected multiple times to Congress, and spent 25 years there. He became vice-president under the 25th Amendment by being nominated by the President and confirmed by Congress when Spiro Agnew resigned as VP, then ascended to the presidency when Nixon resigned, like a Vice-President would do. At which point he nominated Nelson Rockefeller to become Vice-President.

The “no legitimate electoral claim to the office of POTUS” is basically nonsense. He was not directly elected, but he was the president.

AT any rate, the fabled ’11th Commandment’ was never an absolute. If you challenge a Republican in a primary, it’s inevitable that you’re going to speak negatively of him.

Of the two, Cruz is more circumspect about directly criticizing a fellow Republican. Paul making statements that strongly imply Cruz is someone who’s ‘never known war’ ‘talking tough to get elected’ was too indirect to be blunt, but too confrontational to be polite.

At any rate, as I predicted, foreign policy is the single biggest threat to Rand Paul. While isolationism is always popular with some crowds, it disqualifies a man from serious consideration as Commander in Chief. If Paul wants to be president, he’s going to have to avoid isolationism, and that probably means the libertarians he’s been trying to keep loyal will abandon him.

There Goes the Neighborhood on March 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

I’m getting tired of this, but I suppose it’s inevitable. I wish we could follow Reagan’s 11th commandment. OT: Issa said they have all the evidence they need from the IRS docs.

John the Libertarian on March 11, 2014 at 2:08 PM

John, I agree. I still like both Cruz and Paul. Out driving with the wife, we were listening to Hannity interview Paul about the Cruz comments and Paul’s comments on the Russian incursion into Crimea. I wasn’t surprised that Paul answered a question about being friends with Cruz when he said that he was. That is what I understood. But then he then launched into this strange discussion about Reagan, Reagan’s foreign policy being mischaracterized and saying people should stop acting like they’re Reagan. There wasn’t any mistake he was talking about Cruz. In total, the comments about the “friction” between he and Cruz and back-tracking from some of his stances on the Russians left me a bit disappointed. A bit of rationalization and whininess.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 5:42 PM

I get the feeling Rand is trying to re-make himself while Cruz is the real deal.

trs on March 11, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Looking at it sensibly I can’t say I disagree with him. Even if Iran has the bomb they won’t drop it on anybody because they know if they did they would be wiped off the face of the earth. They want it to look relevant and tough to the rest of the world and especially their neighbors. They are a threat but not necessarily to us and not necessarily because they have joined the nuclear club.

That doesn’t mean I would vote for Paul.

crankyoldlady on March 11, 2014 at 3:55 PM

I doubt that Israel has enough nukes to ‘wipe Iran off the face of earth’, ever checked Iran’s size and population, as well as geography? As for the US, are you seriously thinking that our sitting preznit would order Iran to be wiped off the face of earth if they happen to just drop a nuke or two on Israel??? :) You know this will never happen, so why being so self-deluded then? So, yes, Iran would probably easily drop a bomb on Israel with impunity (from the current US preznit anyways)…

jimver on March 11, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Looking at it sensibly I can’t say I disagree with him. Even if Iran has the bomb they won’t drop it on anybody because they know if they did they would be wiped off the face of the earth. They want it to look relevant and tough to the rest of the world and especially their neighbors. They are a threat but not necessarily to us and not necessarily because they have joined the nuclear club.

That doesn’t mean I would vote for Paul.

crankyoldlady on March 11, 2014 at 3:55 PM

What if Iran is led by religious wackos that want to bring about the end of the world and they see being “wiped off the face of the Earth” as part of that process?

slickwillie2001 on March 11, 2014 at 7:46 PM