Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on March 11, 2014 by Allahpundit

Let’s be honest, there’s a lot of space between McCain and Paul, and I think we would probably agree that when it comes to style, temperament, etc., Cruz is a lot closer to Paul than he is to McCain (remember the whole “wacko birds” thing?) During his CPAC speech, for example, Cruz praised Ronald Reagan and Ron Paul for being the two candidates who attracted young supporters. (His mention of McCain was less positive. “Of course, all of us remember President Dole, President McCain, President Romney,” he said.)

So basically, the Cruz strategy is to get close to Paul, while still staying toward the middle of the field. If you care about small government, both guys are good. Want to take on Obama? Check. Don’t like drone strikes, want to close the IRS, hate ObamaCare? Check. Check. Check.

But Cruz is making a bet that Paul’s more libertarian positions on issues like non-interventionism aren’t a mainstream opinion. So he will set up shop just on the other side of Paul. Anyone who says, “I really like Paul’s position, but I think we need to stand up to Russia,” now has a home. Or the guy who says, “I hate drones, but I don’t want Iran to go nuclear,” has a candidate.

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Paul’s touchiness is more interesting than his argument. Noting that Reagan sometimes did dovish things does not weaken Cruz’s (obviously correct) contention that Reagan was more hawkish than Paul is. While Russia was planning to move into Crimea, Paul was warning that U.S. officials should not “tweak Russia all the time” and should instead “be respectful.” Other Republicans have not said anything similar, and it is difficult to imagine Reagan — who believed it was important to call out the Kremlin — saying it either.

So why doesn’t Paul just say that circumstances have changed since the 1980s and our policies should change, too? Why does he protest when someone points out the obvious?

I suspect Paul’s problem is simple: For all the talk of rising Republican isolationism, he knows full well that he is an outlier in his party. That’s why Cruz’s mild words of differentiation have such sting.

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His best chance of making headway in a presidential race is to leverage the trust conservatives have for him on domestic issues to make his foreign policy views easier for conservatives to accept. If it’s him debating foreign policy with the likes of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie or other figures favored by the party’s establishment, it would be much easier for Paul to muddy the waters. He could essentially argue, “Of course, big government establishment RINOs would smear my foreign policy views, because they’re frightened of having a true conservative win.”

That’s much harder to do with Cruz in the picture. Cruz has at least as much credibility as Paul with the conservative base — if not more. Whether or not Cruz runs, having him in the media amplifying the criticism of Paul’s foreign policy views would make Paul’s already difficult job of trying to appeal to a wider electorate that much harder. He cannot dismiss Cruz as just another establishment RINO trying to sabotage the candidacy of a genuine conservative. Anything Paul does to assert that he really believes in a strong role for the U.S. in global affairs risks alienating his father’s energetic supporters, who favor a more restrained foreign policy. Anything he does to shore up support among this core group of his father’s supporters would then feed into the criticism being lobbed by Cruz…

My working assumption has been that Paul isn’t a serious threat to be the GOP presidential nominee in 2016, and his recent dust-up with Cruz only reaffirms that view.

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Paul has attempted to associate his foreign policy with the realism of Henry Kissinger. It is not a good fit. Realism has generally asserted the need for a strong executive in conducting global strategy. Paul apparently believes that U.S. presidents can’t be trusted with sophisticated weapons lest they kill Americans in cafes. His approach is not realism but non-interventionism. His libertarian foreign policy holds that America is less secure because it has been “too belligerent” and that decades of international engagement have both corrupted our constitutional order and corrupted other nations with our largess or militarism. This perspective sometimes overlaps with foreign policy realism but only in the narrow cases when both recommend disengagement. Paul has a trumpet that only sounds retreat.

For a while, it seemed that Paul’s views were sweeping the GOP. Now we are witnessing the beginnings of a backlash to his backlash, aided by Vladimir Putin. Americans may not have suddenly developed a keen humanitarian concern for Ukrainians, but a revanchist Russia is the type of threat that has mobilized conservatives in the past. While a “let them fight it out” argument may play well concerning Syria, a “let Putin get away with it” argument is a harder sell. The partisan momentum in the GOP is no longer entirely on the side of disengagement. Across the party, a Reaganite critique of Obama’s foreign policy stirs…

Paul is left to insist, “I’m a great believer in Ronald Reagan.” This amounts to a serious concession, since Reagan would not have returned the compliment.

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Cruz, who sees his Republican colleague from Kentucky maintaining his popularity with the conservative base, is trying to use foreign policy as a way to gain favor. But that’s not necessarily the best idea. He should have asked Marco Rubio.

One of the bigger flops at CPAC was the Florida Republican, once seen as a young conservative darling who could win with wide appeal. Today, though, he’s but a blip on the radar after isolating many conservatives with his work on immigration reform. Attempting to win support back, he went on the offensive with foreign policy…

And how did it pan out for him? He finished in a very distant seventh place at CPAC, with only 6 percent support. For someone who got second place last year, that’s quite the disappointing finish. His speech did not work with that audience (the message could resonate with voters outside of CPAC, like his action on immigration).

Now Cruz is attempting a similar strategy. But if Cruz wants to stand apart from the front-runner, he needs to find another issue. He won’t win with this one.

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[W]hile some Republicans may prefer tough talk about Putin or the ayatollahs to Paul’s more nuanced commentary, there is an obvious reply: rhetoric aside, what would a Cruz or a Rubio really do differently? Such rhetoric matters, of course, and there are usually non-military options available, like economic sanctions.

But Paul’s critics should be obliged to tell us if they want war against any of the half-dozen or so countries whose governments they castigate. If not, does their position really differ that much from Paul’s? If they do, is Paul really the Republican holding a non-mainstream opinion?

If Reagan is the golden mean, which countries did he invade to set in motion the end of the Cold War and the toppling of the Berlin Wall? And which of the limited interventions he did support, besides Grenada, are still counted among his crowning foreign-policy achievements today?

***

Like Christie, Sen. Ted Cruz also portrayed himself as an outsider fighting timid forces in Washington while looking for a way to win. In his telling, too many gutless Beltway insiders followed the “Washington way” of compromise and calculated triangulation. That way, he said, was a surefire path toward policy failure—and electoral defeat. “You want to lose elections,” he said, “stand for nothing.” Cruz provided a 10 point list to help explain what he stood for: repealing Obamacare, repealing Dodd-Frank, stopping presidential lawlessness, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and ending corruption all made the cut. Cruz nodded to expansions of school choice and energy production, as well as defending the Constitution, but mostly it was a rundown of specific things he opposed.

Strangely, Cruz also seemed to suggest that part of the party’s problem was its insufficient criticism of President Obama’s agenda. After highlighting the electoral failures of Bob Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney, he asked: “The Obama agenda has been horrible for people, yet how many Republicans said that?” Well, Romney, for one, whose speeches often accused President Obama of having “crushed the middle class.” If there’s anything that virtually the entire GOP has been clear about for the last five years, it’s that they don’t support President Obama’s plans…

Of the Republican party’s rising stars, only one has made a serious attempt to reflect that impulse, at least in spirit, if not always in the particulars: Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.). His CPAC speech opened with a subtle counter to the partisan victory cheers of his fellow headline speakers, asking the audience to briefly imagine a future in which liberty is once again paramount in American politics. “You may think I’m talking about electing Republicans,” he said. “I’m not. I’m talking about electing lovers of liberty.” In other words, what Republicans need isn’t a vision for the party, and ideas to run on. It’s a vision for the country—and ideas to make it happen.


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Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 2:20 AM

I missed it when I scanned thru..:)

Dire Straits on March 12, 2014 at 2:36 AM

Lanceman on March 12, 2014 at 2:20 AM

My bad..But I still hear drums..And they are pretty loud..:)

Dire Straits on March 12, 2014 at 2:39 AM

Just got in….

OmahaConservative on March 12, 2014 at 2:42 AM

M83 – “Wait”

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 2:45 AM

OmahaConservative on March 12, 2014 at 2:42 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on March 12, 2014 at 2:50 AM

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 2:45 AM

Great “Chilling” song..imho..:)

Dire Straits on March 12, 2014 at 2:52 AM

spiritualized – i think i’m in love

Probably just crashing…

Talk Talk :)

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 2:56 AM

Schadenfreude was a chica? O_o

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:08 AM

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 2:56 AM

Catchy tune there..:)

PS..Voice..:)

Dire Straits on March 12, 2014 at 3:08 AM

Muse Knight Of Cydonia-Later with Jools Holland Live HD

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:05 AM

Very relaxing…

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:08 AM

Very relaxing…

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:08 AM

lol!

PS..Voice..:)

Dire Straits on March 12, 2014 at 3:08 AM

Moody Blues and Chicago was my first concert. :)

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:15 AM

Grateful Dead – Dark Star ]] Wharf Rat ]] Dark Star

While we can

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:16 AM

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:07 AM

Very good tune..:)

PS..the last two letters scared me at first..I thought you were playing Xanadu..But then my eyes caught up..I knew you would not bring Xanadu into this palace!..:):)

PS..Lily..:)

PSS..Sexy Lady playing sax is icing on the cake..:)

Dire Straits on March 12, 2014 at 3:16 AM

PS..the last two letters scared me at first..I thought you were playing Xanadu..But then my eyes caught up..I knew you would not bring Xanadu into this palace!..:):)

Xanadu can only be played on one of AP’s gay marriage threads. House rules I think.

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:19 AM

Grateful Dead – Dark Star ]] Wharf Rat ]] Dark Star

While we can

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:16 AM

That is a pretty epic cut.

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:19 AM

Cat Power – Bully

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:23 AM

Good evening(?) Can’t sleep. Thought I’d drop in and see if anything happening. All still accounted for?

battalion on March 12, 2014 at 3:24 AM

All still accounted for?

battalion on March 12, 2014 at 3:24 AM

We seem to be missing an airliner. And Crimea. But other than that…

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:26 AM

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:19 AM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on March 12, 2014 at 3:27 AM

Hole – Malibu

lol

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:29 AM

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:15 AM

Moody Blues are an awesome band..:)

Dire Straits on March 12, 2014 at 3:30 AM

Good to know, thanks. No idea where the airliner, hasn’t been seen in my neighborhood. Crimea is still around, but I believe it’s under new management.

battalion on March 12, 2014 at 3:31 AM

Cat Power – Bully

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:23 AM

Nice feeling.

Alabama 3 -Speed of the sound of Loneliness

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:34 AM

Alabama 3 -Speed of the sound of Loneliness

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:34 AM

I actually like this.

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:38 AM

Actor Chris Pine charged in New Zealand with DUI – @AP
read more on abcnews.go.com

Say it ain’t so Tiberius!

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:40 AM

Back to bed, 6 AM fast approaching. Everybody have a good day. Stay safe.

battalion on March 12, 2014 at 3:41 AM

nitey nite battalion.

Ok, going way out here, but this is a classic…to some of us.

The Irresistible Force – Global Chillage

Blockbuster for real chillout music. I first saw this guy perform live at an illegal warehouse party, aka rave, on the 7th floor of an abandoned warehouse on the mighty mississip.

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:44 AM

BURNING AIRLINES GIVE YOU SO MUCH MORE

Bad taste…i know

kcewa on March 12, 2014 at 3:48 AM

If Rand wants to run on his dad’s foreign policy AND amnesty, he is done. He should learn a lesson from Rubio that amnesty is a death knell

Brock Robamney on March 12, 2014 at 5:44 AM

It looks like everyone went to bed. Good morning ladies and gentlemen. Expecting snow and wind here. They still haven’t found the plane and Crimea is still lost.

crankyoldlady on March 12, 2014 at 5:49 AM

What better to distract people from “The Coronation” sequel- “It’s Time”, starring Hillary Clinton (fresh from her previous underwhelming role in “Secretary of State: Mundane Mendacity and Murder) than a faux Republican internecine drama.

Honestly, what Republicans call debate and trying to explain your political views, Democrats and their partners in the press call “extreme” or “Republican war!”.

Hands down- Cruz or Paul would make a better president than Hillary Clinton.

Marcus Traianus on March 12, 2014 at 5:59 AM

Good morning, COL! Thanks for the morning update. Cmsinaz must be out this week.

Glad to here of the republican win in Florida. Wonder what the day will bring with news about the missing airplane. Crimea seems to be old news , according to the alphabet news networks.

esr1951 on March 12, 2014 at 6:00 AM

Schadenfreude was a chica? O_o

Murphy9 on March 12, 2014 at 3:08 AM

Vivez! Mes amis je suis enchante.

PercyB on March 12, 2014 at 6:16 AM

Crimea seems to be old news , according to the alphabet news networks.

esr1951 on March 12, 2014 at 6:00 AM

I never watch the alphabet channels. Good win in FL. Democrats are going to crank up their fraud network big time. I’m kind of surprised they haven’t found “missing votes” yet.

crankyoldlady on March 12, 2014 at 6:27 AM

If Rand wants to run on his dad’s foreign policy AND amnesty, he is done. He should learn a lesson from Rubio that amnesty is a death knell

Brock Robamney on March 12, 2014 at 5:44 AM

He’s not running on his dad’s foreign policy:

http://time.com/17648/sen-rand-paul-u-s-must-take-strong-action-against-putins-aggression/

It’s going to be rather hard for you and others to suggest Rand Paul = Ron Paul when the evidence suggests otherwise.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of Republicans whose parents are FDR Democrats. It must be shocking for you to find out that some folks do not agree with mom and dad politically.

Punchenko on March 12, 2014 at 6:30 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.

– Ronald Reagan

My take: The Demeaning of the Presidency: Obama Appears on “Between Two Ferns”. Hilarity Does Not Ensue.

kingsjester on March 12, 2014 at 6:54 AM

kingsjester on March 12, 2014 at 6:54 AM

Good one King.

crankyoldlady on March 12, 2014 at 6:55 AM

crankyoldlady on March 12, 2014 at 6:55 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on March 12, 2014 at 6:59 AM

My take on the Florida election:

This election was clearly a referendum on ObamaCare and Big Government, two of the most distasteful political decisions advocated by the Democratic Party, and the delusion of hope and change. Nothing, repeat, nothing sends voters to the polls more than when their pocketbooks have been picked by a party that falsely promised so much and delivered so little.

Rovin on March 12, 2014 at 7:09 AM

My take: The Demeaning of the Presidency: Obama Appears on “Between Two Ferns”. Hilarity Does Not Ensue.

kingsjester on March 12, 2014 at 6:54 AM

Aside from the fact that Obama has no comic timing (no matter what the people around him tells him), the worst thing about that disgusting display on “Funny or Die” was not that it demeans the office of POTUS. The worst thing is that doing that kind of stupid crap on a Tuesday takes away credibility when you meet with the PM of Ukraine on a Wednesday morning. This of course mere hours after getting back from a long weekend with the yeti and brats at a $2500/night resort in Key Largo.

Obama is the only world leader that could launch resistance to Putin’s plans to re-establish the old Soviet Union. Putin looks at the silly stupid lazy baby in the White House and knows he has nothing to fear from the United States.

Carpe the Diem KJ!

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 7:21 AM

Good column, KJ. He is cringeworthy.

Naturally Curly on March 12, 2014 at 7:24 AM

My take on the Florida election:

This election was clearly a referendum on ObamaCare and Big Government, two of the most distasteful political decisions advocated by the Democratic Party, and the delusion of hope and change. Nothing, repeat, nothing sends voters to the polls more than when their pocketbooks have been picked by a party that falsely promised so much and delivered so little.

Rovin on March 12, 2014 at 7:09 AM

I’m not sure you can read all of that into a special election. Clearly a loss for the Dems in a race they were hoping to win for bragging rights. But the real battle is still eight months away.

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 7:27 AM

Thanks, y’all!

kingsjester on March 12, 2014 at 7:37 AM

It’s 4:40 in the morning…

What the hell am I doing up, listening to the Finding Nemo Main Theme, and getting tears in my eyes.

I’m turning into a woman, the older I get.

Eric in Hollywood on March 12, 2014 at 7:45 AM

What the hell am I doing up, listening to the Finding Nemo Main Theme, and getting tears in my eyes.

I’m turning into a woman, the older I get.

Eric in Hollywood on March 12, 2014 at 7:45 AM

The transformation will be complete when you’re trapped in your bedroom by an angry 22-pound cat. ;0

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 7:50 AM

Florida loss big blow to Democrats’ 2014 hopes

Some Democrats viewed the race as a template for how the party could win in purple-hued districts. Over the past two months, Sink rolled out an elaborate plan to win over the GOP and independent voters she’d need to take the district, airing ads in which she promised to “work across the aisle. … Bringing Republicans and Democrats together — that’s what I’ve always done, and that’s what I’ll do in Congress.”

But Jolly’s win shows just how politically treacherous the path is for Democrats running in such moderate-to-conservative areas. Rather than moving to the center, Jolly pushed to the right, painting himself as a foe of President Barack Obama and his Affordable Care Act — and presenting Sink as a staunch ally.

“She supports Obamacare. I don’t. I’m David Jolly, and I approve this message because [we] need someone to look out for our interests, not President Obama’s,” he said in one TV ad.

In the face of those kinds of attacks, Sink’s can’t-we-all-just-get-along message just didn’t cut it.

Following Sink’s loss, some Democrats said they’re rethinking their approach to combating the GOP’s Obamacare-centered assault. Sink’s nuanced “fix it, don’t repeal it” message was one that the national Democratic Party is urging many candidates to embrace, but it may have been drowned out by the avalanche of loud Republican attacks.

One Democratic operative predicted that candidates would now find it safer to flat-out state their opposition to Obamacare, saying that, “It’s gonna be tough to get Democrats to support the Affordable Care Act this cycle now with the standard ‘fix the good, get rid of the bad’ schtick.’”

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 7:50 AM

One Democratic operative predicted that candidates would now find it safer to flat-out state their opposition to Obamacare, saying that, “It’s gonna be tough to get Democrats to support the Affordable Care Act this cycle now with the standard ‘fix the good, get rid of the bad’ schtick.’”

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 7:50 AM

The problem with that is that all those incumbent Demonrats voted for Obamacare. They can’t “flat-out” state their opposition after defending their vote for it three years ago. Sink had wiggle room that most Demonrats do not.

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 7:54 AM

F R E E
the
S H A D !
………the man!

KOOLAID2 on March 12, 2014 at 8:17 AM

But the real battle is still eight months away.

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 7:27 AM

Agreed in principle, but one candidate did campaign on O’care and one campaigned against it, re-affirming the status of how the voters feel about ACA. This will be an important factor in future elections/primaries leading into this November. The GOP must stay a full throttle and not become complacent.

(btw, I posted this at a Politico thread that tends to get our dear liberal friends all in a well-lathered frenzy.)

Rovin on March 12, 2014 at 8:25 AM

(btw, I posted this at a Politico thread that tends to get our dear liberal friends all in a well-lathered frenzy.)

Rovin on March 12, 2014 at 8:25 AM

The GOP needs to treat this as a war and the Dems as the enemy. No more of the collegial good will where the Republican candidate says something stupid about how his/her opponent also has the best interests of the nation at heart.

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 8:47 AM

The GOP needs to treat this as a war and the Dems as the enemy. No more of the collegial good will where the Republican candidate says something stupid about how his/her opponent also has the best interests of the nation at heart.

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 8:47 AM

Exactly.

crankyoldlady on March 12, 2014 at 9:04 AM

The problem with that is that all those incumbent Demonrats voted for Obamacare. They can’t “flat-out” state their opposition after defending their vote for it three years ago. Sink had wiggle room that most Demonrats do not.

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 7:54 AM

I agree and my question is……Do the Republicans run on repealing The ACA by presenting a detailed new “Health Care” reform plan/bill or should they not get specific and just run on repeal and replace?

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 9:12 AM

F R E E
the
S H A D !
………the man!

KOOLAID2 on March 12, 2014 at 8:17 AM

Does Shad want to come back for a third time? I would bet there is history between Ed and Shad that we are not privy to knowing. When I as Mod at a hobby site, most times, there was always more going on behind the scenes. Not always, but usually there was a lot of prior history…….good and bad. We had a forum for just the Mods and had a top ten most likely list of members we thought would get the boot due to inappropriate behaviour.

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 9:24 AM

We had a forum for just the Mods and had a top ten most likely list of members we thought would get the boot due to inappropriate behaviour.

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 9:24 AM

Friggin limey…

:-P

Eric in Hollywood on March 12, 2014 at 9:43 AM

The transformation will be complete when you’re trapped in your bedroom by an angry 22-pound cat. ;0

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2014 at 7:50 AM

How about trapped in the kitchen by a gaunt, 17 year-old cat that most likely died six months ago, but somehow still thinks it’s a kitten?

Eric in Hollywood on March 12, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Schadenfreude, you must apologies to Ed. He will reinstate you if you apologies. Its the only way. You always work to mend relationships here at HA. Mend your relationship with Ed. Now, please.

Bmore on March 12, 2014 at 9:54 AM

apologize twice, coffee!!!

Bmore on March 12, 2014 at 9:54 AM

I agree and my question is……Do the Republicans run on repealing The ACA by presenting a detailed new “Health Care” reform plan/bill or should they not get specific and just run on repeal and replace?

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 9:12 AM

I don’t want to see ‘replace’ in the equation. I want to see ‘repeal’, and perhaps – AFTER ‘repeal’ – a discussion about how to specifically target individuals with issues and how to correct *those* – not by f*cking EVERYONE over in the process.

Intelligent solutions like opening the market to cross-state-line offerings and other things that actually correct previous over-regulation that introduced many of the problems to begin with.

Midas on March 12, 2014 at 10:14 AM

I agree and my question is……Do the Republicans run on repealing The ACA by presenting a detailed new “Health Care” reform plan/bill or should they not get specific and just run on repeal and replace?

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 9:12 AM

I don’t want to see ‘replace’ in the equation. I want to see ‘repeal’, and perhaps – AFTER ‘repeal’ – a discussion about how to specifically target individuals with issues and how to correct *those* – not by f*cking EVERYONE over in the process.

Intelligent solutions like opening the market to cross-state-line offerings and other things that actually correct previous over-regulation that introduced many of the problems to begin with.

Midas on March 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Oh, for f*ck’s sake, the server issues are even worse this morning, if that’s possible.

The IT jacka$$es at TH that have been unable to get that site working properly for years are apparently fully in charge of the HA IT situ as well.

Midas on March 12, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Schadenfreude, you must write Ed a letter of apology, you should have done that already. Ed will reinstate you if you only apologize. You have always tried to keep relationships mended at HA. Mend yours with Ed. Shake hands apologize and makeup. Now. Please.

Bmore on March 12, 2014 at 10:48 AM

P.S. Don’t forget.

Bmore on March 12, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Never mind this! WHY wasn’t cms watching Mika Zhuzhinski this morning???

Lanceman on March 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 9:12 AM

I don’t want to see ‘replace’ in the equation. I want to see ‘repeal’, and perhaps – AFTER ‘repeal’ – a discussion about how to specifically target individuals with issues and how to correct *those* – not by f*cking EVERYONE over in the process.
Midas on March 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM

I totally agree!! Don’t muddy the water because then everyone will be arguing about the “replacement” ideas.

Keep the message clear & clean. Now whether it can be done, doesn’t need to be discussed either. Repeal must be the message.

“I am absolutely convinced that we are going to repeal every single word of Obamacare,” Cruz, a potential presidential contender who is leading among Tea Party voters in nearly every 2016 presidential poll, said to a standing ovation.

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 12:03 PM

The IT jacka$$es at TH that have been unable to get that site working properly for years are apparently fully in charge of the HA IT situ as well.

Midas on March 12, 2014 at 10:16 AM

That could be it. Ed did post yesterday that he’s forwarded the issues to the powers that be. So hopefully, they will get it fixed.

The past two days, when a glitch occurs, I’ve been getting “Word Press Error” too. So maybe Word Press Updated their software?

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Rush said that $9 mil from outside sources was spent on negative ads against David Jolly in FL! Wow.

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 12:27 PM

.

Bmore on March 12, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Schadenfreude, you must write Ed a letter of apology, you should have done that already. Ed will reinstate you if you only apologize. You have always tried to keep relationships mended at HA. Mend yours with Ed. Shake hands apologize and makeup. Now. Please.

Bmore on March 12, 2014 at 10:48 AM

BUT Schad-if you believe you were right…you need to stick to your principles and not grovel. If you grovel to get back in, even if you truly believe that you did nothing wrong-you will regret it.
Don’t throw away your sense of integrity over a blog.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 12, 2014 at 12:51 PM

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 9:12 AM

I don’t want to see ‘replace’ in the equation. I want to see ‘repeal’, and perhaps – AFTER ‘repeal’ – a discussion about how to specifically target individuals with issues and how to correct *those* – not by f*cking EVERYONE over in the process.
Midas on March 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM
I totally agree!! Don’t muddy the water because then everyone will be arguing about the “replacement” ideas.

Keep the message clear & clean. Now whether it can be done, doesn’t need to be discussed either. Repeal must be the message.

“I am absolutely convinced that we are going to repeal every single word of Obamacare,” Cruz, a potential presidential contender who is leading among Tea Party voters in nearly every 2016 presidential poll, said to a standing ovation.

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 12:03 PM

I asked the question for two reasons (1) being I want The ACA repealed and (2) I don’t trust Republican politicians/consultants to present a clear message.

I have to agree with you both as our voting population does not have a power point mentality. Thanks to you both as my thinking was not clear until your responses.

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM

He’s back!!!

Bmore on March 12, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Waiting For The Miracle – Cohen

Paladin.

thatsafactjack on March 11, 2014 at 10:59 PM

You believe in miracles :)

Thank you J., for all you wrote, here and to Ed.

Thank you all for your free spirits.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 12:03 PM

I asked the question for two reasons (1) being I want The ACA repealed and (2) I don’t trust Republican politicians/consultants to present a clear message.

I have to agree with you both as our voting population does not have a power point mentality. Thanks to you both as my thinking was not clear until your responses.

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM

I had a reply all ready and my task manager showed 1.5 k memory use and IE had to recover this website, so lost it. Will get back to you after a late lunch. Between my PC issues and HA Word Press issues, I’m having a trying time:-)

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Glad you’re back!!!

Thank you Ed for your grace.

I am still mad about the missing HUMPBOT!

kringeesmom on March 12, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Never mind this! WHY wasn’t cms watching Mika Zhuzhinski this morning???

Lanceman on March 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM

She said last week that she was taking a break until after Easter.

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 2:44 PM

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 2:20 PM

@ HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM

I agree that we can’t trust certain R’s & their distractors to keep on point.

Every Democrat voted for this in 2009 and many D Senators headed the 3 Committees.

Many of these Establishment Republicans like to say that they didn’t vote for this bill. True, but that doesn’t let them off the hook.

Senator Ted Cruz gave them the opportunity to vote to NOT FUND Obamacare, but many joined with the Democrats in the Senate and voted TO FUND it. Those that did need to be defeated. I followed that vote as many did and have the Roll Call Vote, if you need it.

David Jolly won in FL and we can too & Nation Wide.

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 3:03 PM

You believe in miracles :)

Thank you J., for all you wrote, here and to Ed.

Thank you all for your free spirits.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

That answers my question about if you want to come back!!!!!

Welcome back, but from all the posts about you from the members…….you never were really gone. Time for you to bust my chops again!

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM

@ HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM

I agree that we can’t trust certain R’s & their distractors to keep on point.

Every Democrat voted for this in 2009 and many D Senators headed the 3 Committees.

Many of these Establishment Republicans like to say that they didn’t vote for this bill. True, but that doesn’t let them off the hook.

Senator Ted Cruz gave them the opportunity to vote to NOT FUND Obamacare, but many joined with the Democrats in the Senate and voted TO FUND it. Those that did need to be defeated. I followed that vote as many did and have the Roll Call Vote, if you need it.

David Jolly won in FL and we can too & Nation Wide.

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 3:03 PM

I would like the list. Thanks!!!

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Welcome back, but from all the posts about you from the members…….you never were really gone. Time for you to bust my chops again!

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Nah, you’re a friend. Ignore this, if you’ve seen already.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 3:33 PM

HonestLib, this is the fixed one.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 3:35 PM

kringeesmom on March 12, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Thank you and thank you to all who went to work.

You’re all superb.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 3:37 PM

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 3:03 PM

I would like the list. Thanks!!!

HonestLib on March 12, 2014 at 3:16 PM

I was delayed and was on the “Schad” thread:-)

Here is the Roll Call Vote that counted:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00206

Here is the HA thread that day that followed everything that went on in the Senate:

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/09/27/open-thread-senate-to-hold-cloture-vote-at-1230-et-on-house-bill-defunding-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comments

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 4:35 PM

She said last week that she was taking a break until after Easter.

Flora Duh on March 12, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Mika or cms?

Lanceman on March 12, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

I’m just delighted that you’re back, Paladin. :)

I’ll see you later, tonight on the QOTD. :)

thatsafactjack on March 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

J., also this

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

thatsafactjack on March 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Thank you, and indeed. Be well my friend.

Gracias!!!

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Great to see you back…

OmahaConservative on March 12, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Great to see you back…
Why am I getting a dupe comment notice?

OmahaConservative on March 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Great to see you back…
Why am I getting a dupe comment notice?

OmahaConservative on March 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM

The Programmers fixed the glitches? :-)

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 5:17 PM

The Programmers fixed the glitches? :-)

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 5:17 PM

The glitches are getting worse…

OmahaConservative on March 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM

The Programmers fixed the glitches? :-)

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Nope

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Thank you OC – typed note/s on the new thread to you.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 5:48 PM

For now, once you get that “Duplicate…” just leave, refresh…your comment is there.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 5:49 PM

For now, once you get that “Duplicate…” just leave, refresh…your comment is there.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 5:49 PM

That is a real pain in the ass, though…

OmahaConservative on March 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Just heard on the news that Gov. Brewer is not running for re-election. Not sure when her term is up tho.

bluefox on March 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Bmore

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2014 at 6:22 PM

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