Newest target of Latino media on immigration reform: Barack Obama?

posted at 5:21 pm on March 11, 2014 by Allahpundit

An interesting shift per Greg Sargent, and oddly coincidental with reports of right-leaning groups ramping up their own immigration pressure on the House GOP. Apparently activists have given up trying to intimidate the other side for the moment and resumed trying to intimidate their own. Who caves first, Obama to lefties or the House GOP to centrists?

It could be that this is simply the flip side of the reality, long noted by border hawks like myself, that Obama would get the lion’s share of the credit from Latino voters even if Boehner and the GOP turned around and passed amnesty tomorrow. Maybe that’s because the president is inevitably the face of major legislation, no matter how bipartisan it is, or maybe it’s because Latino voters skew heavily Democratic regardless. (The GOP saw no improvement among Latinos after Reagan signed the amnesty of 1986.) If he’s getting the credit no matter what, maybe he’s also getting some blame no matter what.

“There has been a shift within the Hispanic media,” Jorge Ramos, the influential Univision anchor who has been called the “Walter Cronkite of Hispanic media,” told me. “If you read the editorial pages in the most important Spanish language newspapers, you notice immediately how the conversation has changed from attacking Republicans to attacking Obama.”…

“They’ve already given up on Republicans,” Ramos said, characterizing Latino media viewpoints. “Immigration reform is not going to happen now. The only one who can do something is President Obama. On a personal basis, what is more harmful: Republicans who are not moving on immigration, or a president who is removing your father, your mother, your brother, your co-worker, and your friends from this country?

The legal nuances are murky. Experts say Obama certainly can’t “stop all deportations” or legalize anyone unilaterally. He only deferred deportation for DREAMers. But there’s even some question about how many categories he could defer deportation for, because that means pushing more people to the bottom of the list, making it harder to justify with prosecutorial discretion.

Sargent goes on to say that even though it’s not clear whether O has legal authority to freeze all deportations, Latino media seems to assume that he has it and is holding him responsible for inaction. That’s a fascinating twist to Obama’s power grabs in other areas, ObamaCare most prominent among them. You’re familiar with most of the constitutional and prudential critiques of executive overreach by now — it’s a threat to separation of powers, it’s foolhardy insofar as a Republican president can undo all of O’s actions by simple executive order, and so on. But one point that rarely gets made is how each bit of unilateralism raises expectations for more unilateralism among his base. If you’re a pro-amnesty voter and you’re watching Obama summarily extend statutory deadlines for people with “un-canceled” insurance plans to buy coverage on the ObamaCare exchanges, why wouldn’t you assume that O could do something similar for illegals on deportation? The more he imposes his will contra statute, the more different special interests will reasonably expect him to do so for their own pet causes. He already seems to see the limits on his own authority as chiefly political, not statutory; if you’re a smart liberal and you want him to act, it thus behooves you to change the political calculus for him, which is exactly what Latino media is doing. In case Jonathan Turley’s looking for a new vein on this subject for his next op-ed, there’s a rich one for him. Presidential turf grabs are always worrisome, but how much more worrisome are they when the president owes his power to “clientelism”? How can he say no to Client Y when he’s already said yes to Client X? Or does he?

Exit question: Is there any reason why Obama might cave on this before the midterms rather than after? The GOP’s reluctant to cave because there’s a legit chance of a conservative backlash in November if they do. No one thinks unilateral action by Obama on deportations will bring liberals, Latino or otherwise, out in droves, though. Even if it did bring some out, furious Republicans would probably see their turnout climb even higher. Might as well wait ’til next year if you’re O.


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long noted by border hawks like myself,

Yeah you and John McCain. LOL

Wigglesworth on March 11, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Yeah you and John McCain. LOL

Wigglesworth on March 11, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Allah has been pretty consistent on being against immigration reform….what are you talking about?

terryannonline on March 11, 2014 at 5:34 PM

On a personal basis, what is more harmful: Republicans who are not moving on immigration, or a president who is removing your father, your mother, your brother, your co-worker, and your friends from this country?”

Which president is doing that, because it’s certainly not Obama.

Not unless your father, mother, brother, co-worker, and/or friends are violent illegal alien felons. Because those are the only illegal aliens Obama bothers to deport these days, and sometimes he won’t even deport those.

AZCoyote on March 11, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Sargent goes on to say that even though it’s not clear whether O has legal authority to freeze all deportations, Latino media seems to assume that he has it and is holding him responsible for inaction.

Wait till the Cow F**kers Of America learn he ain’t doing them any favors, either.

Its a bitch when you selectively use power you don’t have. Everyone you didn’t select suddenly feels dis-rspected.

BobMbx on March 11, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Be thankful Obama did NADA during the 8 months or so when he had 60 votes in the Senate and Pelosi ran the House. He could have passed ANYTHING — but relaxed and failed to pass Cap and Trade, Amnesty, and God knows what else.

long noted by border hawks like myself,

Yeah you and John McCain. LOL

Wigglesworth on March 11, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Dittos.

You must forgive AP — he refuses to read this poll — the ONLY one to offer all three clear choices and show a definite WIN for attrition through enforcement.


http://www.jmisys.com/immigrationmarches/zogby5.html

And if you hate to read, but like videos:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxe1WO27B_I

fred5678 on March 11, 2014 at 5:38 PM

I figured out how to get rid of that crap in the right sidebar. Restore down your screen, shrink to fit Hotair’s two columns, and slide it away from that annoying junk video.

Duh…I know. But I’m slow.

Jaibones on March 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

or the House GOP to centrists?

Understand there are no “centrists” calling for amnesty. Only radical leftists and crony capitalists want amnesty.

Obama also has no authority to stop deportation of anyone in violation of immigration law. He can grant a pardon for the violation, but their very presence here is a violation of law and they must go under the law.

Quartermaster on March 11, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Did my comment get blocked by agreeing with Wigglesworth?

fred5678 on March 11, 2014 at 5:43 PM

No — just veeeerrrry slow today.

fred5678 on March 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Obama’s Executive Order Pen is getting ready…..

portlandon on March 11, 2014 at 5:53 PM

If Hispanics voted for Obama, he’s yours. Embrace the suck.

22044 on March 11, 2014 at 6:00 PM

(The GOP saw no improvement among Latinos after Reagan signed the amnesty of 1986.)

Every Republican should have that branded on their forehead!

As for Obama, why not ‘pile on’? He’s a wuss! Look what Putin is getting away with.

Evidently the Hispanics think King Barack the Magnificent should just ‘use his pen’.

GarandFan on March 11, 2014 at 6:05 PM

It could be that this is simply the flip side of the reality, long noted by border hawks like myself, that Obama would get the lion’s share of the credit from Latino voters even if Boehner and the GOP turned around and passed amnesty tomorrow.

Of course the REB would take credit and be given credit by the liberal media. If the roles were reversed and a Republican president signed the bill, Congress would get all the credit.

This is just how it works and it’s naive of us to think it will change this time.

slickwillie2001 on March 11, 2014 at 6:23 PM

figured out how to get rid of that crap in the right sidebar. Restore down your screen, shrink to fit Hotair’s two columns, and slide it away from that annoying junk video.

Duh…I know. But I’m slow.

Jaibones on March 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

I have an idea you don’t have a touchscreen…swoosh and done.

Don L on March 11, 2014 at 6:33 PM

I have an idea you don’t have a touchscreen…swoosh and done.

Don L on March 11, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Bingo. Suffering on a laptop through the unending misery that is forced video autoplay. Life must be pretty good that I bitch about this.

Jaibones on March 11, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Giving citizenship to illegals, giving the vote to felons, pardoning democrat campaign donors.

The democrat party run by criminals for criminals.

jukin3 on March 11, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Yeah you and John McCain. LOL

Wigglesworth on March 11, 2014 at 5:30 PM

I wonder how many posts I’ve written bashing amnesty fans over the past year alone. It’s got to be more than 50, possibly approaching 100.

Allahpundit on March 11, 2014 at 7:05 PM

¡Oye, cabrones! ¡Tengo un teléfono y una pluma!

de rigueur on March 11, 2014 at 7:59 PM

Yeah you and John McCain. LOL

Wigglesworth on March 11, 2014 at 5:30 PM

I wonder how many posts I’ve written bashing amnesty fans over the past year alone. It’s got to be more than 50, possibly approaching 100.

Allahpundit on March 11, 2014 at 7:05 PM

…QOTD does not count.

KOOLAID2 on March 11, 2014 at 7:59 PM

Having seen O’ take power unto himself, seemingly at will, illegals assume he has the kind of unilateral, dictatorial-like powers similar to the ‘leaders’ where they came from. Just the kind of new citizens we need. They’ll fit right in with the rest of the undereducated, willfully ignorant native dolts raised in our indoctrination system…

vnvet on March 11, 2014 at 8:06 PM

They want their Free Shit. Do you understand?

Murphy9 on March 11, 2014 at 8:10 PM

It doesn’t matter you maroons. They will always support the side that gives them the most free stuff. The less they have to work, and the more govt programs they get the better.

paulsur on March 11, 2014 at 8:19 PM

“They’ve already given up on Republicans,” Ramos said, characterizing Latino media viewpoints. “Immigration reform is not going to happen now. The only one who can do something is President Obama….

Or — to put it another way — Latino groups see Obama sidestepping Congress with questionable Constitutional executive orders changing the law on ObamaCare, and are wondering why Obama can’t sidestep Congress with questionable Constitutional executive orders changing the law on immigration…

…which he’ll probably do, sometime within 90 days of the November election, in a bid to goose Latino turnout in key states and congressional districts.

jon1979 on March 11, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Whining about being deported? If they would not have disrespected our laws and immigration policy, if they had applied for citizenship the way so many others have legally done, if they had not broken our laws and continue to do so – making them criminals- they wouldn’t be deported….Have absolutely zero sympathy for these people who KNEW what the law states and the penalty for breaking it!

1. Honor the promise that was made the last time amnesty was given, the promise that was BROKEN — The borders will be closed and secured so illegal immigration STOPS! Do THIS 1st before any discussion about a 2nd amnesty goes any further!

2. Once amnesty is given a 2nd time – and it will be given – hen declare THAT IS IT – THAT IS THE LAST TIME! Every illegal that is caught crossing the border or found in this country illegally after that – no matter the circumstances – should immediately be deported and NEVER be eligible for citizenship in this country again! If you can’t respect and obey our laws, if you can’t follow our established legal process then you are it wanted/needed & don’t EVER deserve to become an American citizen…never reward criminals for breaking our laws again!

easyt65 on March 12, 2014 at 12:57 AM

easyt65 on March 12, 2014 at 12:57 AM

That’s never going to happen when when we have a president that will ignore parts of the law that he doesn’t like and make up other laws to replace them. The only way to stop him is to deny him anything to work with by not bringing up immigration in Congress. The status quo is better than anything he will do.

slickwillie2001 on March 12, 2014 at 1:07 AM