McCain on Ted Cruz: Have these self-proclaimed Reagan Republicans forgotten that Reagan gave amnesty to three million illegals?

posted at 6:41 pm on March 11, 2014 by Allahpundit

We’ve reached the point where I honestly can’t tell if he means this as a criticism or not.

However, he did get in some criticism of the speakers, who included Cruz, at the Conservative Political Action Conference last week.

“All of these people at the CPAC will claim that they are Reagan Republicans,” McCain said. “Did they forget that Ronald Reagan gave amnesty to three million Americans? Do they forget that he did raise taxes, that he made an agreement with Tip O’Neill on Social Security, that Ronald Reagan said [the] 11th commandment is you don’t speak ill of your fellow Republicans?”

In the theme of invoking these compromises, McCain also said raising taxes should be an on the table as part of entitlement reform.

“Look, you have to put everything on the table,” he said when asked if a package could include taxes. “If you don’t put everything on the table, then the opposite side says, ‘OK, but we’re not going to agree to, say, raising the retirement age.’ “

Rule one among amnesty fans like Maverick: “Amnesty” is bad. They oppose amnesty. To them, as long as there are some preconditions to securing legal status for illegals — learn English, pay your back taxes, blah blah blah — then the process isn’t “amnesty.” Why would McCain choose to use that word in describing Reagan’s immigration measure in 1986? You could, of course, argue that what Reagan did was even more lax than what McCain’s Gang of Eight proposed, i.e. that Reagan’s law was a true amnesty whereas McCain’s really isn’t, but why would Maverick want to draw that distinction when he’s ostensibly praising Reagan here? He seems to be saying that Reagan’s more moderate moments were a good thing — he compromised and he got stuff done, unlike that incorrigible wacko bird Cruz who’s always scheming for ways to shut down the government. Sounds like he’s sort of claiming Reagan for the center-right, including his record on tax hikes and, er, “amnesty.”

Right? He surely doesn’t mean this in a “Reagan had his flaws too” way. Here’s what he said to another reporter this afternoon when pressed on Paul and Cruz:

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., weighed in on the debate between Sens. Rand Paul, R-Ky., and Ted Cruz, R-Texas, over Ronald Reagan’s foreign policy legacy.

“I knew Ronald Reagan,” McCain said to the Washington Examiner. “They’re no Ronald Reagan. OK? They’re not.”

Reagan, McCain said, actually reached across the aisle to work with Democrats on national security issues as well as domestic concerns.

“Ronald Reagan used to have drinks with Tip O’Neill,” he said. “Ronald Reagan made an agreement on Social Security that raised taxes.”

Maybe that’s the next rhetorical move on immigration reform from Republican supporters: Win one for the Gipper. (It’s all yours if you want it, Team Rubio.) In that case, is it fair to assume that McCain also agrees with Paul that Reagan was a more complex figure on foreign policy than he’s typically given credit for? I take it Maverick would resist, claiming that Reagan was a superhawk in the McCain mold instead, but there’s just no way that’s true. Show of hands: Who thinks President McCain would have withdrawn from Lebanon after the 1983 Marine barracks bombing? (He did vote against extending the Lebanon mission in the early 80s, but for complex reasons. And the older McCain seems considerably more hawkish than the younger version.) Who thinks President McCain would have withdrawn from anywhere once U.S. troops were in the field? In the McCain foreign-policy cosmology, withdrawal is always proof of a lack of resoluteness and therefore a gesture of provocative weakness. Pulling out under fire only emboldens the enemy. Which raises the question: Who among the three, McCain, Cruz, and Paul, is closest to the Reagan foreign-policy tradition? Or do we not know enough about the latter two to make any judgment yet?


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There is no doubt that John McCain is trying to destroy any Conservative footprint in the GOP. He needs to retire.

One more time Arizona, why was JD Hayworth such a bad pick?

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 6:43 PM

No, we have not forgotten.

Nor have we forgotten how mavericks & other RINOs caved and did not see to any of the enforcement included in the legislation, LIKE A FREAKING FENCE.

Shaughnessy on March 11, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Oh shut up already, you demented little creep.

VorDaj on March 11, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Maybe, just maybe, Cruz also remembers Reagan admitting that it was the biggest mistake of his presidency!

OldEnglish on March 11, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Did McCain forget the ensuing broken promise of border security?

SailorMark on March 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM

No, we haven’t. That was Reagan’s greatest mistake.

And he did it based on the promises Congress made for border security. Which never happened.

ConstantineXI on March 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM

If we TEA Party Conservatives are Hobbits, doesn’t that make McCain Gollum?

ConstantineXI on March 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Who among the three, McCain, Cruz, and Paul, is closest to the Reagan foreign-policy tradition? Or do we not know enough about the latter two to make any judgment yet?

It sure as hell ain’t McLame…

OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM

I sure as hell miss Schad already…

OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

No, we have not forgotten.

Nor have we forgotten how mavericks & other RINOs caved and did not see to any of the enforcement included in the legislation, LIKE A FREAKING FENCE.

Now go change your Depends, you smell more than usual.

Shaughnessy on March 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

I just wish the Egyptians could extradite McInsane to put him on trial there for supporting the murdering Muslim Brotherhood and for supporting al Qaeda in Syria. They want to.

VorDaj on March 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

McCain is the one man in America who could have made an even worse President than Obama.

VorDaj on March 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Put everything on the table. Arizona, were you freakin serious?!

chris0christies0donut on March 11, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Mea Culpa!
Sorry for the repost(s).

Shaughnessy on March 11, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Evidence of senility?

Robert_Paulson on March 11, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Reagan, McCain said, actually reached across the aisle to work with Democrats on national security issues as well as domestic concerns.

When Reagan “reached across the aisle” most of the democrats weren’t communists.

I also wonder why this out of touch ancient relic is attacking Republicans instead of admonishing democrats for not “reaching across the aisle”.

darwin on March 11, 2014 at 6:48 PM

No, we haven’t forgotten being screwed wholesale by the Democrats’ broken promises of border enforcement, or the agreement that it would be the LAST amnesty ever.

Rusty Nail on March 11, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Like I said the other day. There are a bunch of the GOP acting and saying the same things.

10,000 McCainiacs.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 6:48 PM

And through all this John McCain has attained, and has created for himself serenity, and it is only his senility that is keeping him alive in his ever increasing insanity.

RasThavas on March 11, 2014 at 6:48 PM

“I wouldn’t bring up Paris if I were you. It’s poor salesmanship.”

de rigueur on March 11, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Mea Culpa!
Sorry for the repost(s).

Shaughnessy on March 11, 2014 at 6:47 PM

No sweat.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 6:49 PM

McCain is the one man in America who could have made an even worse President than Obama.

VorDaj on March 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

We were truly screwed in 2008.

I know one thing, I am NEVER voting for a candidate who isn’t conservative. I don’t care who the Democrats are running. They can’t ever run WORSE than Obama.

ConstantineXI on March 11, 2014 at 6:49 PM

did you forget a fence promised in exchange for that mcswine ??

dmacleo on March 11, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Mea Culpa!
Sorry for the repost(s).

Shaughnessy on March 11, 2014 at 6:47 PM

No sweat.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Did McCain forget that what Reagan agreed to, in exchange for his amnesty never happened?

That’s why we can never fall for the lies of the Left on amnesty ever again????

portlandon on March 11, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Which raises the question: Who among the three, McCain, Cruz, and Paul, is closest to the Reagan foreign-policy tradition? Or do we not know enough about the latter two to make any judgment yet?

I can’t say for sure who’s closer, Cruz or Paul.

But I know for sure it ain’t John McCain…

JohnGalt23 on March 11, 2014 at 6:50 PM

McCain is worse than “fundamentally flawed” in the political sense. There has always been something very wrong with his character, which is one of extreme “me-first-and-only” self-entitlement. He was wrongfully admitted to the Naval Academy with bad grades ahead of more qualified applicants because his daddy and granddaddy were admirals. Rules that apply to ordinary people don’t apply to him. He thumbed his nose at Annapolis because he couldn’t be kicked out or flunked out, because he was JOHN MCCAIN, son and grandson of ADMIRALS. He ignored orders and crashed planes, because he couldn’t be disciplined as the son and grandson of admirals. He ditched the wife who stood by him, when he wanted a rich blonde chick young enough to be his daughter, who could finance his political ambition.

He was caught taking bribes to his wife from the Keating 5, so tried to cover his tracks by imposing the McCain-Feingold nonsense on everyone else (laws only apply to everyone else, not to JOHN MCCAIN). He entertained a blonde lobbyist in ways that worried his staff, and improperly pressured the FCC for her in exchange for …., because he is JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!!. He yelled obscenities at other senators who questioned ramming his McCain-Kennedy amnesty through the Senate in the dead of night without debate, and screamed he knew more about it than anyone else – because he is JOHN MCCAIN, a legend in his own mind !!!!!! He has had secret no press allowed meetings to praise Mexico as our dearest friend and closest neighbor, calling enforcement of the laws “Rhetoric”.

As president, McCain, like the man he helped elect. Barack Obama, would have tried to rule by fiat and would make Hugo Chavez look like George Washington. Like the Alice in Wonderland Queen of Hearts, if any GOP congresscritter disagreed with him “OFF WITH HER HEAD- I’m JOHN MCCAIN, KING OF THE UNIVERSE!!!” There has always been something consistently very wrong with McCain’s character. Through it all, this lying unreliable self-aggrandizing megalomaniac poses as a “straight talker”, and is so sick, he probably believes it himself, because he is JOHN MCCAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!, son and grandson of ADMIRALS.

RasThavas on March 11, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Who among the three, McCain, Cruz, and Paul, is closest to the Reagan foreign-policy tradition? Or do we not know enough about the latter two to make any judgment yet?
It sure as hell ain’t McLame…
OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM

I agree. McCain has bastardized the hawks’ position.

chris0christies0donut on March 11, 2014 at 6:51 PM

I sure as hell miss Schad already…

OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

What!??

OldEnglish on March 11, 2014 at 6:51 PM

What!??

OldEnglish on March 11, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Ed dropped the hammer on Schad yesterday…

OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Well, he has a point here. Thats why I always shrug when I hear the description “Reagan-Republican” used as a kind of shield by people like Senator Lindsey Lowham. Reagan wasnt all that.

Valkyriepundit on March 11, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Reagan, McCain said, actually reached across the aisle to work with Democrats on national security issues as well as domestic concerns.

So has Rand Paul, probably more than John McCain would like…

JohnGalt23 on March 11, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Did McCain forget the ensuing broken promise of border security?

SailorMark on March 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM

McCain: “You mean…Reagan actually thought the Dems would hold up their end of the bargain? That retarded, sir. That old school. This is new school. Somebody get me some drank and lets party”

BobMbx on March 11, 2014 at 6:53 PM

It’s not about being Reagan. It’s about learning from Reagan. His hawkish foreign policy was an outstanding success. His amnesty was a colossal failure.

Mark1971 on March 11, 2014 at 6:54 PM

He knew Abe Lincoln as well….

d1carter on March 11, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Build the damn fence..!

d1carter on March 11, 2014 at 6:55 PM

What!??

OldEnglish on March 11, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Ed dropped the hammer on Schad yesterday…

OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:52 PM

For some reason this makes me think of Truman firing MacArthur. I’m not exactly sure why, but it does.

VorDaj on March 11, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Right? He surely doesn’t mean this in a “Reagan had his flaws too” way.

No, I agree with Allah’s first idea — McCain is saying “hey, we’re not so bad…Reagan did it, too”.

Here’s what I’m saying: Reagan was a sea-change improvement over what had come before him, but he was still a dope who oversaw increases in spending and did not solve anything long-term. Even the cold war is back in play. And his withdrawal from Lebanon was one strong link in the chain that

Jaibones on March 11, 2014 at 6:57 PM

If we TEA Party Conservatives are Hobbits, doesn’t that make McCain Gollum?
ConstantineXI on March 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Wormtongue?

LegendHasIt on March 11, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Right? He surely doesn’t mean this in a “Reagan had his flaws too” way.

No, I agree with Allah’s first idea — McCain is saying “hey, we’re not so bad…Reagan did it, too”.

Here’s what I’m saying: Reagan was a sea-change improvement over what had come before him, but he still oversaw large increases in spending and did not solve anything long-term. Even the cold war is back in play.

Jaibones on March 11, 2014 at 6:58 PM

McCain is completely unhinged.

MrX on March 11, 2014 at 6:59 PM

McLaim would be so slow to withdraw from anything that it would, invariably, get pregnant or scream, “Uncle!” His amnesty would include 15 million vice 3 million, and would include open borders for more free loading boarders.

vnvet on March 11, 2014 at 7:01 PM

If we TEA Party Conservatives are Hobbits, doesn’t that make McCain Gollum?

ConstantineXI on March 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Proximity to the Ring of Power will do that…

JohnGalt23 on March 11, 2014 at 7:02 PM

One should also remind Mr McCain that part of the 8ies amnesty deal was not only a secure border, but additionally that there would never be another amnesty. Unless of course he implies that the whole of DC – him included – lied to the American people and misled us in the same fashion as Obama did with his “if you like your doctore…”-promise.

Valkyriepundit on March 11, 2014 at 7:03 PM

I thank him for his service.

He needs to go home to AZ and enjoy his grandchildren.

Done.

ladyingray on March 11, 2014 at 7:03 PM

Bet he wouldn’t do it again, after seeing how it all worked out.

Fooled me once…

farsighted on March 11, 2014 at 7:05 PM

McCain is completely unhinged.

MrX on March 11, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Just vain, petty and not very smart. Bad combination.

rrpjr on March 11, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Reagan was solving the problem with a bipartisan law. Why is still a problem. If Reagan’s solution did not work, why would we do it again. Stupid…….. McCain is.

Connecticut on March 11, 2014 at 7:08 PM

If any here are inclined to frequent internet sites that have a lot of foreign commenters, John McCain has single handedly focused the blame of American involvement on the GOP and Conservatives as much as obama. Some pretty damning comments are made by people all over the world about the US supporting the terrorist factions of the FSA. Rather than obama getting the preponderance of the blame, they can rightfully point to McCain also. The man was shaking hands with a bloody executioner. The man ate another man’s heart.

McCain just needs to retire.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Whoa Boy. Must not say what I want to say or I will be banned.

Wasn’t part of that bill to secure the border?

Poster boy for “Can’t Fix Stupid”.

stenwin77 on March 11, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Sure as hell miss Schad already… OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

+1.

wolly4321 on March 11, 2014 at 7:11 PM

The 2008 election in a nutshell…

Your choices were dumb and dumber. Dumber won. And got re-elected in 2012. Dumb has gotten dumber, and more senile.

Yeah, I can hardly wait to see what my choices are in 2016.

Anyone know someone starting up a new country somewhere? I might be interested.

farsighted on March 11, 2014 at 7:12 PM

If we TEA Party Conservatives are Hobbits, doesn’t that make McCain Gollum?
ConstantineXI on March 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Wormtongue?

LegendHasIt on March 11, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Theoden. Prior to Dr. Gandalf’s housecall.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Did they forget that Ronald Reagan gave amnesty to three million Americans?

 
Great point. Was that supposed to solve something?

rogerb on March 11, 2014 at 7:13 PM

OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Thanks – I think.

OldEnglish on March 11, 2014 at 7:14 PM

I ask you the very same question, McCain:

Did [you] forget that Ronald Reagan gave amnesty to three million Americans?

blammm on March 11, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Ed dropped the hammer on Schad yesterday…

OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Meanwhile… libfree the retread troll is still free to post its race-baiting BS whenever it likes.

farsighted on March 11, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Thanks – I think.

OldEnglish on March 11, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Know what you mean…

OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 7:17 PM

John the Blabtist.

fogw on March 11, 2014 at 7:18 PM

Meanwhile… libfree the retread troll is still free to post its race-baiting BS whenever it likes.

farsighted on March 11, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Yup…

OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 7:18 PM

Did Pres. Reagan say that the amnesty was a one time deal?

Cindy Munford on March 11, 2014 at 7:18 PM

OT:

Caribbean states demand reparations from European powers for slave trade

The reparations debate has long simmered in the Caribbean where many blame slavery for modern ills, ranging from economic weakness to health epidemics such as diabetes and hyper-tension allegedly caused by their ancestors’ poor diets.

Caricom is pushing for increased technological assistance as it says European powers shackled the region during the world’s industrialisation by confining it to producing and exporting raw materials such as sugar.

Instead of producing materials like steel, textiles, timber, and petroleum from its massive abundance of natural resources. Why, there’s so much coal in the Caribbean that without slavery and colonialism, the world would be blaming global warming on them.

BobMbx on March 11, 2014 at 7:19 PM

OT: Results are coming in for FL13. Classic definition of nail-biter. Follow here.

Flora Duh on March 11, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Maybe, just maybe, Cruz also remembers Reagan admitting that it was the biggest mistake of his presidency!

OldEnglish on March 11, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Not true, actually:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/internet-myth-ronald-reagan-regretted-legalization/

GOPRanknFile on March 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Did John McCain forget that Hispanics didn’t flock to the republican party after Reagan’s amnesty, despite claiming the only way they’ll vote for us is if we give them amnesty?

xblade on March 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Sure as hell miss Schad already… OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

If ALT can come back,…..

portlandon on March 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Sure as hell miss Schad already… OmahaConservative on March 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

She will be back. Different name, same brutally honest commentary.

fogw on March 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Have these self-proclaimed Reagan Republicans forgotten that Reagan gave amnesty to three million illegals?

I believe that’s the reason they don’t want to do it AGAIN.

reddevil on March 11, 2014 at 7:25 PM

OT: Results are coming in for FL13. Classic definition of nail-biter. Follow here.

Flora Duh on March 11, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Thanks for posting the link FD. Overby needed to drop out. He’s drawn enough already to have been the spoiler.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:25 PM

She will be back. Different name, same brutally honest commentary.

fogw on March 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM

“she”?

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:25 PM

You idiot, McVain. While Reagan was being fooled by Ted “hic” Kennedy with promises of a fence and amnesty for only a million or so illegals (not even 1% of the population), you were wallowing at Keatings’ pigsty. A pigsty that help bring down the savings and loans industry and required a tax payer bailout.

When the truth came out, Reagan was hoodwinked by the dems and 3x illegals got their amnesty. You got your amnesty by pleading ignorance of finacial dealings that led to millions of investors, including seniors trying to build their nesteggs losing out.

Round two, you pigged out in the housing bubble until you needed a campaign gimmick. You put the brakes on energy independence by being the 60th vote to block drilling. You spoke ill of and at fellow republicans during the amnesty push 6 yeats ago. And now you promise there’s only 11 million illegals getting your version of amnesty (3% of the population) when the truth is there are 3x as many. Double that with the various right of arrival via family etc and we’re looking at nearly 1/5 off Americans who will be newly minted.
So screw you you unamerican pos.

AH_C on March 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM

As I recall, McCain was out proclaiming how HE supported the BORDER SECURITY part of that agreement.

Then, like the total liar McCain has exposed himself as, he ABANDONED all pretense of implementing that security for the next 27 YEARS!

John McCain should have retired from public life after his failure in 2008! Instead, all he has left is his hatred of all things conservative.

Freddy on March 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM

I smell a recount also Flora.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM

McCain on Ted Cruz: Have these self-proclaimed Reagan Republicans forgotten that Reagan gave amnesty to three million illegals?

RWM to McVain: Have you, a self-proclaimed Reagan Republican (Ouch! OJ burns when it spews from one’s nose), forgotten that he also later said that signing Simpson-Mazzoli a/k/a amnesty was the single, biggest mistake of his entire presidency?

Now, get off of my lawn, you blithering whackobird!

Resist We Much on March 11, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Some congressmen learned from that mistake, John.

“I thought then that taking care of three million people illegally in the country would solve the problem once and for all. I found out, however, if you reward illegality, you get more of it. Today, as everybody has generally agreed, we have 12 million people here illegally.” Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA)

“I was here in Congress in 1986. I heard all the promises of the Simpson-Mazzoli Act. None of them were true, and three million people got amnesty. There was no border security to speak of, no employer sanctions to speak of, and there was no enforcement.” Sen. Byron L. Dorgan (D-ND)

“The American people were sold a bill of goods. It didn’t work. We got an amnesty, and we got no enforcement. That is why people are so distrustful now.” Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX)

“In 1986 I voted for the Simpson-Mazzoli immigration bill because we were told it would solve the problem of massive illegal immigration. In his diaries, President Ronald Reagan said he was going to sign the bill because we had to regain control of our borders. The Simpson-Mazzoli bill contained three promises:

The government would make a concerted effort to control the borders.
An effective employer verification program would ensure that only legal workers were hired.
One-time amnesty would be granted for people illegally in the United States.

All three promises were broken. The government has made no serious effort to control our borders. Employers continue knowingly to hire illegal immigrants without any real fear of punishment.” Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA)

de rigueur on March 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM

“she”?

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:25 PM

I consider her a dear friend. Yes, she. With huge cojones.

fogw on March 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Does John McCain remember that the Reagan amnesty was supposed to be the last one?

xblade on March 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Sarah put him in there. She gave him the credibility to be able to beat JD. If you support Sarah, you support McCain.

cimbri on March 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM

GOPRanknFile on March 11, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Is this a case of re-writing history? I wonder why?

OldEnglish on March 11, 2014 at 7:31 PM

smell a recount also Flora.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM

What’s that sound? That’s the sound of “found” ballot boxes being loaded into the trunks of the cars of Democrat poll workers all across the district…

ConstantineXI on March 11, 2014 at 7:31 PM

“she”?

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:25 PM

I consider her a dear friend. Yes, she. With bigger cojones than Obama.

fogw on March 11, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Has John McCain forgotten that he was elected to represent the interests of Americans, and not the interests of everyone else instead?

xblade on March 11, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Sorry for the double post. Thought the first one went into the Twilight Zone.

fogw on March 11, 2014 at 7:33 PM

smell a recount also Flora.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM

What’s that sound? That’s the sound of “found” ballot boxes being loaded into the trunks of the cars of Democrat poll workers all across the district…

ConstantineXI on March 11, 2014 at 7:31 PM

The top of Flora’s link also states that Provisional and Overseas ballots haven’t been included in those tallies. I’d be surprised to see a winner declared tonight.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Yeah, McCain, he did. He also said “There will be NO more amnesty. We WILL secure our borders.”

And then Congress refused to fund border security.

McCain, RETIRE!

GarandFan on March 11, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Is this a case of re-writing history? I wonder why?

OldEnglish on March 11, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Don’t think so. It just sounds like someone who mischaracterized what Meese said about what Reagan said.

GOPRanknFile on March 11, 2014 at 7:34 PM

…the senile despicable old Senator can’t remember the promises made to RR for reaching across that isle…but that’s normal for Senator Senile!

KOOLAID2 on March 11, 2014 at 7:35 PM

I suspect McCain (truthfully) has forgotten the ‘deal’ that the Dems backed out of.

socalcon on March 11, 2014 at 7:35 PM

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:25 PM

I consider her a dear friend. Yes, she. With bigger cojones than Obama.

fogw on March 11, 2014 at 7:31 PM

All these years.

Will you email a comment to her or send her a throwaway address I use if I post it on QOTD?

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM

McCain, RETIRE!

GarandFan on March 11, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Or go play in traffic…

ConstantineXI on March 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM

smell a recount also Flora.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM

I believe 0.5 triggers a recount. Jolly now has a 3000+ lead with only 1 precinct remaining.

Sink, is sunk.

Flora Duh on March 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM

McCain, et al, claim that we need these people to ‘do the jobs that Americans just won’t do.’

Well, I have two questions for amnesty crowd:

1. Once the current crop of criminaliens become Americans, what makes you so sure that they will do ‘the jobs that current Americans just won’t do’?

And…

2. If #1 is true, doesn’t that likely mean that we will once again be revisiting legalisation at some point in the future for the new wave of illegals that come to do the jobs that former illegals did but no longer will because they are like other Americans and, like, um, ya know, how dare you expect an American to pick fruit or clean hotels when years of unemployment, ‘free’ healthcare, subsidised housing, subsidised education, food stamps and ObamaPhones are the only things that they deem ripe for the pickin’?

Resist We Much on March 11, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Funny how true conservatives forget to this part of Reagan’s presidency.

:-)

terryannonline on March 11, 2014 at 7:39 PM

O/T Levin said David Jolly leading in his race in FL

bluefox on March 11, 2014 at 7:40 PM

smell a recount also Flora.

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM

I believe 0.5 triggers a recount. Jolly now has a 3000+ lead with only 1 precinct remaining.

Sink, is sunk.

Flora Duh on March 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Awesome stuff. Keep us posted on what the local news says?

hawkdriver on March 11, 2014 at 7:40 PM

Yeah Maverick and that worked out do well. Please retire!

neyney on March 11, 2014 at 7:40 PM

I believe 0.5 triggers a recount. Jolly now has a 3000+ lead with only 1 precinct remaining.

Sink, is sunk.

Flora Duh on March 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM

I had this window open, but was elsewhere:-) Just heard what Levin said. Boy I certainly hope he wins!!!

bluefox on March 11, 2014 at 7:41 PM

So what, McCain? Reagan wasn’t infallible. His amnesty was wrong. Pure and simple. We don’t need to repeat that mistake.

Bitter Clinger on March 11, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Yes, we do remember, McCain. It was Reagan’s biggest mistake and lost California. We remember too well for your taste, jerk.

WannabeAnglican on March 11, 2014 at 7:41 PM

All precincts in

David W. Jolly (REP) 48.43% 88,294

Alex Sink (DEM) 46.56% 84,877

Lucas Overby (LPF) 4.83% 8,799

WRITE-IN 0.18% 325

Flora Duh on March 11, 2014 at 7:41 PM

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