Quotes of the day

posted at 9:01 pm on March 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

Crimea’s Moscow-backed government voted to secede from Ukraine and join Russia and accelerated a snap referendum to ratify the move, a dramatic escalation of tension that pushed the West closer to imposing sanctions if Russian troops don’t withdraw…

A Russian move to absorb Crimea against the will of Ukraine’s national government would mark the first time since World War II that such a maneuver had been attempted in Europe.

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[T]he post-Cold War may now be seen, in retrospect, as the inter-Cold War period. The recent developments have effectively put an end to the interregnum of partnership and cooperation between the West and Russia that generally prevailed in the quarter-century after the Cold War…

The system had been fraying on its eastern edge for almost as long as it had been in existence, but it took a crisis in Ukraine to lead to its clear breakdown. The successful, Western-supported revolution in Kiev in February fatally undermined the delicate balance in the key state between Russia and the West, leading to domestic turmoil in Ukraine. But perhaps more importantly, it also marks the end of Russia’s post-Soviet passivity. Make no mistake: Putin’s actions in Crimea and the powers he received over the weekend from the Russian parliament — allowing him to using military force in Ukraine writ large — return Moscow as an active player in Europe for the first time since 1989…

This will be the dawn of a new period, reminiscent in some ways of the Cold War from the 1940s to 1980s. Like with the two world wars, the failure to resolve the issues arising out of the imperfect peace settlement and the failure to fully integrate one of the former antagonists into the new system are leading to a new conflict — even if a large-scale war will again be safely avoided. This new conflict is unlikely to be as intense as the first Cold War; it may not last nearly as long; and — crucially — it will not be the defining conflict of our times.

Yet, it will be for real.

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After announcing his sanctions order and condemning a planned Crimean referendum on joining Russia as a violation of both Ukrainian and international law, Obama spoke to Putin on the phone for an hour in his latest outreach to the Russian leader.

But Putin, in a statement Friday, said he and Obama remain far apart on the situation Ukraine, whose new anti-Russian government he accused of making “absolutely illegitimate decisions on the eastern, southeastern and Crimea regions.”

Putin declared: “Russia cannot ignore calls for help, and it acts accordingly, in full compliance with international law.”

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Russia said on Friday any U.S. sanctions imposed against Moscow over the crisis in Ukraine would boomerang back on the United States, raising the financial stakes as the military standoff intensified.

In a telephone conversation with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned against “hasty and reckless steps” that could harm Rssian-American relations, the foreign ministry said.

“Sanctions…would inevitably hit the United States like a boomerang,” it added.

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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is taking advantage of the rift between Russia and the United States over Ukraine to press ahead with plans to crush the rebellion against his rule and secure his reelection for another seven-year term, unencumbered by pressure to compromise with his opponents…

“The regime believes the Russians now have a new and stronger reason to keep Assad in power and support him, especially after the experience of Libya, and now Ukraine,” he said. “In addition, the regime believes that any conflict in the world which distracts the attention of the Americans is a factor which eases pressure on Syria.”…

In a less-noted development in recent months, newly ambivalent U.S. allies such as Egypt and Iraq have been quietly concluding significant arms deals with Moscow, spurred in large part by concerns that the Obama administration’s reluctance to become embroiled in the messy outcomes of the Arab Spring means that Washington can no longer be counted on as a reliable source of support…

“They see Russia as a major current and future partner in the region, because in their perspective, the U.S. is retreating,” he said.

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Obama says Putin is on the wrong side of history, and Secretary of State John Kerry says Putin’s is “really 19th-century behavior in the 21st century.”

This must mean that seeking national power, territory, dominion — the driving impulse of nations since Thucydides — is obsolete. As if a calendar change caused a revolution in human nature that transformed the international arena from a Hobbesian struggle for power into a gentleman’s club where violations of territorial integrity just don’t happen…

How to figure out Obama’s foreign policy? In his first U.N. speech, he says: “No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation.” On what planet?

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There is the question of how to respond practically to Putin’s aggression and there is the question of how to respond intellectually. The latter is no less important than the former, because the Ukrainian crisis is not a transient event but a lasting circumstance with which we will be wrestling for a long time. We must mentally arm ourselves against a reality about which we only recently disarmed ourselves: the reality of protracted conflict. The lack of preparedness at the White House was not merely a weakness of policy but also a weakness of worldview. The president is too often caught off guard by enmity, and by the nastiness of things. There really is no excuse for being surprised by evil. There is also no excuse for projecting one’s good intentions, one’s commitment to reason, one’s optimism about history, upon other individuals and other societies and other countries: narcissism is the enemy of empiricism, and we must perceive differences and threats empirically, lucidly, not with disbelief but with resolve. “Our opinions do not coincide,” Putin said after meeting with Obama last year. The sentence reverberates. That lack of coincidence is now a fact of enormous geopolitical significance. Putin is “in another world,” Merkel recently remarked after a conversation with Putin. But the world is composed of all the worlds, and reality of all the realities. Our minds must make room for them all, not least for purposes of resistance. Rather like Jimmy Carter in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, it is time for Barack Obama to consider revisions and corrections—a reset—of some of his assumptions about history and human behavior, insofar as any assumptions can be clearly imputed to him after these years of lurching from idealism to realism and back…

The legend of the interdependent world is always attended by the legend of the twenty-first century. Obama, the ambassador from the future, long ago decided that the twentieth century was over, and almost recreationally likes to dismiss its relevance to contemporary vexations. We live in a time that prefers the discontinuities of history to its continuities. We cannot get over how unprecedented we are. In this, of course, we resemble the unprecedented generations who came before us and the unprecedented generations who will come after us. This is always a mistake.

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Far from agreeing with the line that he’s fallen into a clever western trap, Putin probably thinks that he’s still got a shaky US administration pretty much where he wants it. Wrecking three western plans for Ukraine in a row has left him with what he probably sees as a stronger position than he had three months ago. He’s blocked his worst case outcome—a united Ukraine moving to the West with the eastern political leadership backing the move. The West is largely stuck with the financial support for Ukraine (meaning that US and EU taxpayers will be paying Ukraine’s back bills to Gazprom and other Russian entities), and now that he has Crimea in hand, the divisions between east and west can be exploited by Russia down the road…

Just as Jimmy Carter did not understand that his human rights advocacy ruined his hopes for a new era of detente and arms negotiations with the Soviet Union, the Obama administration’s policy makers don’t seem seem to understand that their Ukraine policy (which they don’t ever seem to have thought much about one way or the other) contradicted their reset policy in a way that would alienate and enrage the Russians. Now, from the Kremlin’s point of view, it may be the Obama administration that has fallen into a trap. Domestic political pressures are meshing with the President’s own sense of legality and morality in international affairs to push the United States towards trying to make it look as if our sanctions and other responses are imposing. In fact, they will and must be fairly ineffective, and Russia can use its influence over events in Syria and Iran to cause more pain to Obama and more damage to America’s international standing…

There may still be some people in Washington who think Putin has blundered into a weak position, but from Tokyo and Beijing to Teheran and Damascus, Putin is probably looking like a stronger horse today, and Uncle Sam like a weaker one.

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For this he’s been criticized by conservatives like The Washington Post’s Marc Thiessen, who wrote in a Monday column that “Obama’s weakness emboldens Putin.” So far, however, aside from Thiessen and the Sarah Palin types intent on making petty attacks on the president’s machismo, his approach seems to be going pretty well…

Obama, it’s clear, is very willing to sit back and let a larger network of forces take their toll on Russia. He isn’t the first American president to be confronted by provocations and military actions from Moscow but he is, as National Journal noted on Thursday, the first to have a broad range of highly effective nonmilitary responses at his disposal…

Russia is more economically isolated than ever before and that means, despite Putin’s resounding shrug, the country is vulnerable. Russian markets have plummeted since Putin expanded forces into Crimea and the ruble is down more than 8 percent since the beginning of the year.

With numbers like those, Obama is perfectly happy to keep playing the waiting game.

***

The Soviet Union didn’t invade Hungary because of President Eisenhower’s weakness, nor Czechoslovakia because of President Johnson’s weakness. Russia didn’t help dismember Moldova because of George H.W. Bush’s weakness or invade Georgia because of George W. Bush’s…

My father grew up in western Ukraine, near Chernivtsi. Our family house was in better shape in the 1930s than it is today. A highway that my grandfather helped build a century ago was barely passable on my last visit. Corruption is far worse today. The entire system has failed, so, of course, western Ukrainians look across the border at a thriving Poland, now firmly embedded in Europe, and see that as a far better model for the future.

Likewise, in a couple of decades, Russians may well look over the border at a thriving, European Ukraine and want that model for themselves as well. So be strong, Senators Graham and McCain: Putin’s advantage is temporary.

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The reality is that Crimea is all but a done deal. Putin saw something he wanted and an opportunity to take it. So he sent in troops and set about establishing that new reality on the ground. The bulk of negotiations in the coming days and weeks will involve Western officials trying to prove that Russia hasn’t gotten the better of them — the “compromise” reached will be almost exactly what Putin wanted all along, in the guise of a diplomatic victory preventing an armed conflict — so they can try to preserve Western credibility. They know they’ll need it for the next crisis that comes along.

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Crap

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Morning, ladies and gents. Hope you all are having a nice weekend.

DisneyFan on March 8, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Morning, ladies and gents. Hope you all are having a nice weekend.

DisneyFan on March 8, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Welcome stranger.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Crap again, should have gone with Meow. See what I mean Axe. It just ain’t working for me.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:09 AM

DisneyFan on March 8, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Hope you didn’t leave me a reply over on that other thread, cause that tab finally got closed.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:10 AM

. I said a ham sandwich could beat Obama. I believed it, too. I overestimated the electorate, which I didn’t think possible, and realizing it was changed my point of view of “where we are” entirely.

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:04 AM

This is why I shake my head when people confidently state that Hillary won’t win. This country voted for Obama not once, but twice. The second time was especially disturbing given Obama’s presidential record and Romney’s excellent qualifications. The voters scare me.

DisneyFan on March 8, 2014 at 8:15 AM

I don’t know how you could have thought Obama would lose in 2008. The difference in the press coverage was startling between the candidates. And I have to believe that the continued love affair between the media and The Won is what got him reelected. Now I think the rest of the nation has caught up and are so stupid they would give him a third term. We have a real Chavez mentality going on.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 8:17 AM

Crap again, should have gone with Meow. See what I mean Axe. It just ain’t working for me.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:09 AM

. . . this meow phase is going to be a trial.

I like crap, though. :)

I don’t know how you could have thought Obama would lose in 2008.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 8:17 AM

Who you talkin’ to, woman!?

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:20 AM

Nah, crap definitely doesn’t work for me. I think a good bit of the problem is the site itself. HA is so screwed up right now. Please HA heal thyself!!!

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:23 AM

I can’t help but remember the episode on Startrek where the inmates took over the asylum.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Just a couple more on the abortion thread and I may get another chance this a.m.

And these HA.

You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.

That is really wearing thin, especially when I am intentionally waiting an extra bit.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:25 AM

Happy Saturday, Patriots! And, Trolls.

“The country’s in the very best of hands?” Yeah, right.

My take: Crimea Situation Intensifies. Obamas, Bidens Take Vacations. Who’s Minding “The Store”?

kingsjester on March 8, 2014 at 8:26 AM

My take: Crimea Situation Intensifies. Obamas, Bidens Take Vacations. Who’s Minding “The Store”?

kingsjester on March 8, 2014 at 8:26 AM

I always think it’s better when they aren’t there.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 8:27 AM

Good morning kingsjester!

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:28 AM

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:20 AM

You, big guy. Besides Obama being a rank amateur but historical how do you take the two VP candidates, compare and contrast and Biden comes out as the sage statesman? We have been in biazzro world for six years now, when does this ride stop?

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 8:28 AM

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 8:27 AM

You and me both. A really, really, really long vacation for the lot of em wouldn’t hurt my feelings one bit. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:29 AM

This is why I shake my head when people confidently state that Hillary won’t win. This country voted for Obama not once, but twice. The second time was especially disturbing given Obama’s presidential record and Romney’s excellent qualifications. The voters scare me.

DisneyFan on March 8, 2014 at 8:15 AM

I think Hillary can win. And it would come down to who she is running against, and also the same time and chance with the media/stories that cannot be ignored/stories that get through/stories that are successfully buried at midnight in unmarked graves — as every other cycle.

She would start with a leg-up, even. The momentum has been in the other direction, her ideological direction. Ann Coulter’s made the observation that we elect a Wilson, remember why we never do that for awhile, then elect another, then remember for awhile . . . That suggestion would mean we get to go back the other way for awhile. But I don’t know if the pendulum is completely swung out yet, if we get to start back yet, or already have.

It doesn’t feel like it. But then I . . . ham sandwich. :)

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:29 AM

I always think it’s better when they aren’t there.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 8:27 AM

Agreed. Never understood the problem with gridlock either.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 8:32 AM

HA is so screwed up right now. Please HA heal thyself!!!

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Responses showing up before a question is asked, error messages warning that you’re posting too fast, or that you’re duplicating a post, when you haven’t done either, is beginning to resemble a low-rent housing project and it’s getting annoying.

It is definitely time for an upgrade to their blog platform.

Flora Duh on March 8, 2014 at 8:33 AM

I can’t help but remember the episode on Startrek where the inmates took over the asylum.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 8:23 AM

1856, the short story, “The System of Dr. Tarr and Prof. Fether,” by Edgar Allan Poe. Which is particularly excellent and should immediately take the place of Cask or Pendulum in text books — basically anything but The Raven. :)

compare and contrast and Biden comes out as the sage statesman

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 8:28 AM

lol — Makes me want to take a second look at legalization. Maybe it makes sense from the other side of the mirror. :)

Nah, would look just as crazy. I just wouldn’t care.

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:39 AM

Love Poe!!!

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:40 AM

I’m gonna hunt for a photo of me at his grave site and send it to you if I can find it Axe.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:41 AM

May have gotten one to stick over at the abortion thread.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:42 AM

HA is so screwed up right now. Please HA heal thyself!!!

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:23 AM

It is definitely time for an upgrade to their blog platform.

Flora Duh on March 8, 2014 at 8:33 AM

It’s God’s way of tellin’ y’all all of us to take a break and do something else for a bit.

cozmo on March 8, 2014 at 8:43 AM

Responses showing up before a question is asked, error messages warning that you’re posting too fast, or that you’re duplicating a post, when you haven’t done either, is beginning to resemble a low-rent housing project and it’s getting annoying.

It is definitely time for an upgrade to their blog platform.

Flora Duh on March 8, 2014 at 8:33 AM

Problems started the moment I signed up? Bmore, when do you sleep?

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:39 AM

Sure it would look just as crazy but a lot more people wouldn’t care.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 8:48 AM

I’m gonna hunt for a photo of me at his grave site and send it to you if I can find it Axe.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:41 AM

Ah, vera cool. :)

People don’t realize that his style was so different, when you look at all of it together, than they’d guess by looking at things like The Raven. Tarr and Fether? A strange, menacing comedy. :) And really good.

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Same as most EST folks. Just not today, last night rather. The better half has a busy day planned. Had to get up and out of her way.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:53 AM

cozmo on March 8, 2014 at 8:43 AM

Or that HA needs to get its java straightened out.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:53 AM

. . . Publicly admitting I feel trepidation before hitting “refresh” on a Ron or Rand Paul thread where I’ve commented. I know. That’s wimpy-talk. I can’t help it. You just — you never know what’s coming.

No one tell Sophie. She hates weakness in men.

Also cats.

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM

What do you mean Hot Air is having technical issues! Will this impact my new job at the Psychic Hotline, I used it to show my “powers”.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM

I think you’re safe. She’ll never see this. Or will she? ; ) *Poe like laughter insert*

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:56 AM

What do you mean Hot Air is having technical issues! Will this impact my new job at the Psychic Hotline, I used it to show my “powers”.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 8:56 AM

rotf :)

“No, I can see the future, and here’s proof. Explain that, big mouth.”

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Same as most EST folks. Just not today, last night rather. The better half has a busy day planned. Had to get up and out of her way.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:53 AM

I’m up at 0430 down at 2100. No tennis matches this weekend for the kids so the whole family, minus the oldest, will be home. They play 40+ tournaments a year all over the US. Keeps the wife busy!

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Ahhhh, poor babies!

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 9:04 AM

beginning to resemble a low-rent housing project and it’s getting annoying.

Flora Duh on March 8, 2014 at 8:33 AM

My apologies to HA management. I just noticed my comment sounds very much like one ‘the constant complainer’ would make.

I realize I pay nothing to occupy this property and am grateful for the opportunity to do so.

It’s God’s way of tellin’ y’all all of us to take a break and do something else for a bit.

cozmo on March 8, 2014 at 8:43 AM

Hey, I took my break. And when I came back it was still underwater, IYKWIMAITYD. :-)

Flora Duh on March 8, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Explain what! And I’ll let you slide on the big mouth thing. Because it’s true.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Okay, that’s in quotes but I don’t know where it came from.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Flora Duh on March 8, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Yeah, but the comment count is certainly up. They will get it straightened out.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 9:09 AM

My take: Crimea Situation Intensifies. Obamas, Bidens Take Vacations. Who’s Minding “The Store”?

kingsjester on March 8, 2014 at 8:26 AM

…thanks kj!

KOOLAID2 on March 8, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Explain what! And I’ll let you slide on the big mouth thing. Because it’s true.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 9:06 AM

What? No — that quote was you talking to them. You said you used HA to prove your psychic ability; I was just providing dialog, you talking to them:

“No, I can see the future, and here’s proof. Explain that, big mouth.”

–Excellent Cindy Munford, I would not, could not ever say you have a big mouth, because you don’t. :) I’d sooner call Dire uptight, or SparkPlug sobering, or Jack awkward.

Actually, thinking about it, I can’t imagine insulting you in any way. You’re on a pretty short list, you know.

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Ahhh, it just got so dusty in here!

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 9:15 AM

. . . not like that pantless freak, cozmo.

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 9:16 AM

My apologies to HA management. I just noticed my comment sounds very much like one ‘the constant complainer’ would make.

I realize I pay nothing to occupy this property and am grateful for the opportunity to do so.

Flora Duh on March 8, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Nah, you hardly ever complain about the site. Now the gilled one, that’s a constant complainer. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 9:17 AM

Got one that really doesn’t want to go in my creel. I’m patient. The site has been very good for me in that regard.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 9:19 AM

KOOLAID2 on March 8, 2014 at 9:10 AM
No, thank you!

Hey, y’all…did the perfesser get the Hammer?

kingsjester on March 8, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Did y’all see this story at Treacher’s? Is everyone in the world incompetent or just covering their hindquarters?

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

kingsjester on March 8, 2014 at 9:19 AM

…I think he said he is taking a break until after the semester….he will be back!

KOOLAID2 on March 8, 2014 at 9:28 AM

kingsjester on March 8, 2014 at 9:19 AM

…I think he said he is taking a break until after the semester….he will be back!

KOOLAID2 on March 8, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Forgot he existed. :)

I’m worried about me. I couldn’t remember if Allan had two l’s, and I’ve edited his texts.

*feels forehead*

Damn. I really need those brain cells back.

Axe on March 8, 2014 at 9:29 AM

kingsjester on March 8, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Took a voluntary leave of absence. You can read it here.

Flora Duh on March 8, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Thanks y’all!

Verby and the new Trolls and sockpuppets are making up for his absence, though.

kingsjester on March 8, 2014 at 9:40 AM

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 9:03 AM

What is your song of the week…I just got my new Breedlove in. Sweet guitar.

msupertas on March 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Damn I miss this man.

SoopOfTheYear @SooperMexican
On this day in 1983 Ronald Reagan first called the Soviet Union an “Evil Empire” in a speech to Evangelicals: http://t.co/EiVPuCKgFF

Flora Duh on March 8, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Flora Duh on March 8, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Yeah funny stuff. What happened to him?

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Did y’all see this story at Treacher’s? Is everyone in the world incompetent or just covering their hindquarters?

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

They are covering something Cindy. The local “conservative” radio station here in metro Atlanta wouldn’t even say his name… only referred to him as a Ga Tech student…so as to not give away his origin.

Brat on March 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM

What is your song of the week…I just got my new Breedlove in. Sweet guitar.

msupertas on March 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM

What model did you get and let me know colour as I will look it up on their website. Most of my acoustics are nylon string, thus I don’t know a lot about a Breedlove. But, I am now going to find out about them and go play one soon. Most likely at Guitar Center.

Just finished up a Kevin Eubanks song I call jazz blues in E. Since I play finger style, I tend to learn solo pieces and have to rearrange parts of songs I learn. Would love to learn a Metallica song for hoots, but not sure which song will work.

I will learn either “Little Wing” and rework the solo ‘cause bending nylon just don’t work or a tune by the Beatles called “Here, There and Everywhere”. A guy named Fred Sokolow has a decent arrangement of the Beatles song. To be honest, it takes me about five days to play a song and a couple of months of working with the song before I “own” it and could play it live with comfort.

Also, thinking about “That Smell” or “Gimmi Back My Bullets” by Skynyrd.

Hey man, thanks for asking as I LOVE to yap about guitars.

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM

They are covering something Cindy. The local “conservative” radio station here in metro Atlanta wouldn’t even say his name… only referred to him as a Ga Tech student…so as to not give away his origin.

Brat on March 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM

750 gives out as few a details as possible.

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

American universities have long been filled with Muslim students. They come in a variety of forms. For example, when I was young we used to hitch hike to Chowan and Elon in NC. Once on a visit there I observed one heII of a smell, (food oriented), when I inquired to my friend I had hitched down there to see. He informed me, “Oh, that, that’s the Persian dorm.” Low and behold all these many years later, guess where many of the parasite Muslim terrorists responsible for 9-11 were schooled. Yep, you guessed it, at the Persian dorm schools. You can google it to confirm. So am I surprised that GaTech has them. Not in the least. GaTech relies heavily on foreign tuition these days. That’s right we train em they kill us. Interesting relationship that. The largest Mosque in the ATL is situated guess where? That’s right 14th street right at GaTech. If we ever suffer another 9-11 don’t be surprised if that Mosque goes bye bye. There are still some folks in Ga. that wouldn’t hesitate to take it down. P.S. Before anyone one here jumps to any conclusions. No. I’m not one of those folks. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM

I’ll take the 10th on that one and be quite! I know you know what I mean. Nice day eh? Now get outside and play.

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 12:00 PM

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/malaysia-airlines-loses-contact-with-flight-march-8-2014/

canopfor posted this last night. I’m just now reading it.

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 12:00 PM

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Some interesting news on that here.

http://news.yahoo.com/stolen-european-passports-missing-plane-150519884.html;_ylt=AwrBEiJtMxtTYW8AUjTQtDMD

Barred on March 8, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Wow, this site is soooo messed up.

Barred on March 8, 2014 at 12:18 PM

180 Ukrainians Killed In Less Than Two Weeks, 20 Churches Destroyed

Oh wait… Never mind.

Akzed on March 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Barred on March 8, 2014 at 12:17 PM

I read some of that on the link I posted too. Strange that no evidence of the plane has been found. From what I read late last night, the weather should not have been a factor. That plane was not your ordinary plane!

canopfor posted this also last night.

http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/777family/background/

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 12:24 PM

I wonder if any data snowden had is driving putins decisions.

dmacleo on March 8, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Wow, this site is soooo messed up.

Barred on March 8, 2014 at 12:18 PM

I read where several others were having issues also. The site has so many ads and that could be a factor. The addition of the Townhall side bar didn’t help, imo.

When I’m just reading or blogging, I disable the Shockwave Flash Object in manage addons. Sites that are loaded with Flash ads pull a lot of memory also.

Regarding Java, I Uninstalled Java from all of my machines about a year ago. I figured if I needed it, I could install it again. Found out I don’t need it at all:-)

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 12:33 PM

I wonder if any data snowden had is driving putins decisions.

dmacleo on March 8, 2014 at 12:25 PM

It’s possible. I’m thinking of what happened in Libya and then Egypt and the U.S. supported taking down those leaders. Heard McCain & another Senator or House member went over there & stirred things up in Dec/2013. Maybe there was going to be another “Libya” there. Then maybe Putin got wind of it:-)

All speculation on my part, LOL

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Regarding Java, I Uninstalled Java from all of my machines about a year ago. I figured if I needed it, I could install it again. Found out I don’t need it at all:-)

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 12:33 PM

What does Java do? Sometimes I think we have these things because they tell us we need them.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Thanks Mars. Boeing is having a bad year. This won’t help stock prices.

Pickle on March 8, 2014 at 2:03 AM

Only ignorant minds jump to such conclusions, with ZERO evidence.

God help you if it was terrorism…stolen passports and all…wait for the evidence, like the rest of us rubes…indeed, you are the ‘erudite’ ones, as always.

Schadenfreude on March 8, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM

I still think it is interesting that they don’t attach any concerns to this young man’s activities. Sort of like ignoring that Bill Ayer’s friends blew themselves up. The best I can hope for is that info on him leads to other terrorists because if not these people look like idiots. Not that the two things have to be mutually exclusive.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2014 at 1:03 PM

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 12:33 PM

What does Java do? Sometimes I think we have these things because they tell us we need them.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM

I know it’s for Developers and when it installs on a system (user) it also installs a lot of ActiveX Controls, which even when I had Java, I’d disable.

Some website use it but what I’ve found is that if you need Java, you’ll receive a pop up telling you that “this site uses Java” I say ok, the pop up closes and I don’t have any issue with the site:-)

I uninstalled it because it’s a security risk & was always patching!

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

What does Java do? Sometimes I think we have these things because they tell us we need them.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM

java runtime (what most users install) used to run interactive programs from sites, addon chat uses it.
some puzzle type captcha (authentication) programs need it.
with firefox setting inactive unless requested (ask to activate) is good, if site doesn’t need it then its not called.

dmacleo on March 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Sorry, I’m back. It is the Stage model. Breedlove is the last name of the guy who started the company. He used to be a luthier for Taylor guitars. Fantastic playability, and some high end features usually reserved for more expensive guitars. It is acoustic electric. Been looking at breedlove for a few years, decided it was time.

msupertas on March 8, 2014 at 1:50 PM

I uninstalled it because it’s a security risk & was always patching!

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Thanks. I’m only semi computer literate.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Also, thinking about “That Smell” or “Gimmi Back My Bullets” by Skynyrd.

Hey man, thanks for asking as I LOVE to yap about guitars.

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Skynyrd…Simple Man is fun to play, Metallica…been practicing the intro to Nothing else Matters…not easy.

msupertas on March 8, 2014 at 1:56 PM

with firefox setting inactive unless requested (ask to activate) is good, if site doesn’t need it then its not called.

dmacleo on March 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Ok.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 1:57 PM

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Thanks. I’m only semi computer literate.

crankyoldlady on March 8, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Whatever I don’t know or understand with my computers, I search until I find the answer. Research has always been something I’ve done, whether it’s computers, plants, flowers, vegetables, etc, LOL

My background is Insurance, Taxes and Accounting, which I learned from the ground up, i.e. self taught:-)

I have each and everyone of my Browser addons Disabled. When I need one, I Enable that particular one. Keeps my system running as clean as possible. All addons effect the Browsers. Some help, some don’t and they can conflict with each other.

Hackers, Viruses, Trojans and all of the rest of the bad guys attack thru the Browser, since that is the entry point to the Internet. I try to give them less to work with:-)

bluefox on March 8, 2014 at 2:29 PM

msupertas on March 8, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Nice. Did you get the concert or dreadnought…natural finish or black? I used to like cedar tops over spruce, but I found out the spruce tops sound better with age….thus I like both. Spruce has better high ends when not amped up. Of course, this is just my opinion.

I’m a little irked at you as I took a listen to Nothing Else Matters and now I’m like darn…that is a cool song and need to learn!!!! So many songs..so little time.

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM

HonestLib on March 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM

It is the concert w/natural finish. Like the feel of it. The concert Solo series comes with a red cedar top & a unique soundhole on the side which directs sound to the ear. Kinda cool. Gonna try to learn Rush’s Farewell to Kings intro this weekend. Always nice talking guitar.

msupertas on March 8, 2014 at 4:52 PM

I finally understand why the mill rejects the furry creature from StarWars

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 7:49 PM

I finally understand why the mill rejects the furry creature from StarWars

Wouldn’t even let me link it without tinyurl first. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 7:51 PM

There it is. ; ) Good to know mill.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:22 PM

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