CNN poll: 58% oppose abortion in most or all cases

posted at 6:31 pm on March 7, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

This news hit yesterday, just before the start of CPAC 2014, but it seems to have attracted a little more attention today — perhaps in part because the CPAC conference has a controversy of its own over the pro-life issue. A new CNN poll shows a wide majority of Americans think abortion should be illegal in most or all circumstances, although it’s the circumstances that might be the issue:

About one in four Americans say that abortion should be legal in all circumstances, one in five say abortion should always be illegal, and slightly over half the public thinks abortion should be legal in some, but not all, circumstances, according to a national poll released Thursday.

A CNN/ORC International survey also indicates that a majority opposes taxpayer money being used to pay for abortions for women who can’t afford the procedure, with Americans split on whether women who receive government subsidies for health insurance should be able to get a plan that covers abortions. …

According to the poll, 27% say that abortion should be legal in all circumstances, 13% say it should be legal in most circumstances, 38% say that it should be legal in few circumstances, and 20% say abortion should always be illegal.

The intro gives the impression that pro-abortion forces are stronger, but the opposite is the case. What is telling here, though, isn’t so much the numbers in the majority but the composition of the minority. It’s easy to explain the absolutists on this side, who will offer bogus “clump of cells” science along with the “my [body] my choice” slogan with the ironically hypocritical attempt to silence the pro-life movement. However, those who want abortion as an option in most cases only number half as many as the absolutists, which means that the arguments about life beginning at conception may be having an impact.

On the other side, about three times as many people believe that abortion should be limited to “few circumstances.” The poll doesn’t specify, but these are presumably the usual exceptions: rape, incest, and a physical threat to the life of the mother. Since together rape and incest account for less than 1.5% of all abortions, and only 12% of those seeking abortions even refer to their own health as an issue as a non-exclusive reason (according to data at the abortion-friendly Guttmacher Institute), we’re talking about support for barring all but an an inordinately small percentage of the million-plus abortions a year in the US. An additional 20% would ban the rest.

That demonstrates powerful momentum for the pro-life movement. Ironically, though, this is the first CPAC in some time to not feature a panel on the pro-life movement:

Pro-lifers note there are important panels on the IRS scandal, immigration, Common Core, privacy, gun control, and criminal justice reform–issues in which pro-lifers would be keenly interested. Pro-lifers generally pride themselves on being “full spectrum conservatives”; that is, supporters of the three-legged stool: economics, national security, and moral issues. So they would not complain about panels covering these issues.

But they note other panels on career counseling, methods of making friends, pot smoking, making posts go Upworthy, and even one on Vaccines vs. Leeches, and wonder if there is no room for a panel or two on life issues–issues that motivate a tremendous number of grassroots activists who also vote conservative.

Yesterday I spoke with my friend Lila Rose of Live Action Films about the lack of focus on the pro-life movement at CPAC. We discuss the basis of liberty as the natural rights of human life, which should interest both conservatives and libertarians. Although we didn’t have the poll results in hand at the time, we talked about the momentum seen by the pro-life movement over the last ten years, both legally and politically:


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Encouraging numbers…

OmahaConservative on March 7, 2014 at 6:34 PM

The poll doesn’t specify, but these are presumably the usual exceptions: rape, incest, and a physical threat to the life of the mother.

That is where I come down.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Wait, is this the majority or the other majority?

rogerb on March 7, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Planned Dachauhood’s worst nightmare is humans being re-humanized by an informed public.

viking01 on March 7, 2014 at 6:38 PM

That’s not the best screencap ever of “Lila Rise” on that video.

itsnotaboutme on March 7, 2014 at 6:39 PM

I frankly think this is just CNN egging on social cons to fight harder for abortion.

Do keep in mind. Abortion is where republicans lose.

Its like our version of the gun debate.

Every time the democrats attack guns they lose and look foolish for trying.

Abortion is the same thing for republicans. And just as some liberals can’t let go of gun control, some republicans can’t stop with the abortion issue.

Democrats know this… so when they feel vulnerable, they change the subject and say “how about abortion, lets talk about that” and republicans fall for it EVERY SINGLE TIME… like god damn lemmings.

I know many of you care deeply about abortion, but you’re being played. The democrats WANT you to fight abortion because it marginalizes the whole party and changes the subject to something they can win every single time.

So if you want to lose and piss off all the non-social con members of the party yet again… go for it. What’s the worst that could possibly happen? I mean, we could have a civil war in the party and utterly fail when the elections come. But you have your convictions so its all good.

Right?

Yeah… I am sounding bitter. I’m mostly frustrated… we’ve done this dance enough times that people should know the steps.

Karmashock on March 7, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Planned Dachauhood’s worst nightmare is humans being re-humanized by an informed public.

viking01 on March 7, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Good phrase.
Consider it stolen.

The new 3-d ultrasounds are contributing to that informed bloc.
It’s apparently harder to kill a visible child than an invisible one.

itsnotaboutme on March 7, 2014 at 6:41 PM

The poll doesn’t specify, but these are presumably the usual exceptions: rape, incest, and a physical threat to the life or long term health of the mother.

That is where I come down.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Agreed, but with one addition in bold.

ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Karmashock on March 7, 2014 at 6:40 PM

I answer to Someone of much greater importance than the Democrats.

kingsjester on March 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM

By this time next year the Marxists that rule us from Washington will have polls showing that the opposition is only 35% or less.

bgibbs1000 on March 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Changing hearts and minds. Slower, not as satisfying, but ultimately more permanent.

The pro-life forces are doing what the anti-smoking people have been doing.

cozmo on March 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM

I support abortion ONLY to save the live of the mother. Weather a child gets to be born-or gets murdered in the womb should NOT be dependent on how the child the circumstances of the child’s conception!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Do keep in mind. Abortion is where republicans lose.

Karmashock on March 7, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Not sure I agree.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 6:48 PM

crankyoldlady on March 6, 2014 at 11:07 PM

The long-term heath thing is a BS excuse. If you support ‘health of the mother’ exceptions…you’re pro-abortion.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 6:48 PM

kingsjester on March 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Amen!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Agreed, but with one addition in bold.

ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM

I wouldn’t agree because that is simply too vague and would end up being as much of a loophole as the mental health of the mother.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Ever Onward. Patience is in fact a virtue.

Bmore on March 7, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Look you troglodytes, child sacrifice has been around since the dawn of man. It is always done for convenience or to placate some angry god. What makes you think progressive humanistic secular America can proceed into a boundless future of prosperity and peace without this ancient sacrament?

Murphy9 on March 7, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Karmashock on March 7, 2014 at 6:40 PM

You make a pretty good argument.

I’m a small-”L” libertarian who believes abortion is murder, but — given the Leftist takeover and dominance of most media, educational, governmental, etc. institutions — tragically, don’t see the legalized abortion trend ever being reversed.

I’m hoping technology will one day (the sooner the better) render abortions obsolete …

ShainS on March 7, 2014 at 6:54 PM

58% is a definitive majority, but we must press on until abortion is regarded with the contempt shown to slavery. We need to keep changing hearts, minds, and laws through the power of persuasion. We must forever persist, never surrender, and tirelessly guard the lives of the innocent.

Stoic Patriot on March 7, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Do keep in mind. Abortion is where republicans lose.

Karmashock on March 7, 2014 at 6:40 PM

No, it’s where flaming liberal hags like Wendy Davis lose.

CurtZHP on March 7, 2014 at 6:56 PM

I wouldn’t agree because that is simply too vague and would end up being as much of a loophole as the mental health of the mother.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Granted, an improperly written loophole could be bad, but a court forcing a woman to give birth under circumstances that leave her permanently physically disabled and unable to care for the herself or the child is a mind bendingly horrifying scenario.

ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 6:58 PM

About one in four Americans say that abortion should be legal in all circumstances, one in five say abortion should always be illegal, and slightly over half the public thinks abortion should be legal in some, but not all, circumstances, according to a national poll released Thursday.

This is a twisted attempt to make the poll results look like almost everyone is onboard with virtually unrestricted abortion.

The typical Lib reading the above paragraph will smirk and say….yes, almost everyone in America agrees with me, and not even delve into the actual polls or read and attempt to understand the rest of the article.

Math is hard.

Johnnyreb on March 7, 2014 at 6:59 PM

CNN poll: 58% oppose abortion in most or all cases

I don’t care if it’s 1% it’s still murder.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 7, 2014 at 7:03 PM

Granted, an improperly written loophole could be bad, but a court forcing a woman to give birth under circumstances that leave her permanently physically disabled and unable to care for the herself or the child is a mind bendingly horrifying scenario.

ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Well that doesn’t sound all that common and making a law for every exception under the sun would mean no law at all.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 7:03 PM

…it’s CNN…what do you think the true numbers are?

KOOLAID2 on March 7, 2014 at 7:03 PM

…it’s CNN…what do you think the true numbers are?

KOOLAID2 on March 7, 2014 at 7:03 PM

I’m actually surprised CNN put the results out there…

OmahaConservative on March 7, 2014 at 7:06 PM

I support abortion ONLY to save the live of the mother.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Why is the life of the mother more important than the life of the baby?

Why not leave both in God’s hands?

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Ironically, though, this is the first CPAC in some time to not feature a panel on the pro-life movement

On the plus side, CPAC’s got the gay atheist base covered. Priorities, y’know.

whatcat on March 7, 2014 at 7:08 PM

cr

ankyoldlady on March 6, 2014 at 11:07 PM

The long-term heath thing is a BS excuse. If you support ‘health of the mother’ exceptions…you’re pro-abortion.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 6:48 PM

YES. “Health of the mother” nonsense is intended by the progs to be a loophole that they can drive a bus through. Don’t fall for it.

LIFE of the mother, yes.

slickwillie2001 on March 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Well that doesn’t sound all that common and making a law for every exception under the sun would mean no law at all.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 7:03 PM

I am not a lawyer. Truthfully, I’m very grateful not to belong to that sad profession. That said, it seems to me that dealing with exceptions in a just and human manner is the most compelling function of the law.

Absolutes don’t work when human beings are involved.

ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 7:10 PM

slickwillie2001 on March 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM

LIFE of the mother is the only exception there should be.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:10 PM

ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 7:10 PM

The unborn baby is a human being too.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Why is the life of the mother more important than the life of the baby?

That is a question for the mother.

Why not leave both in God’s hands?

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Technology has put the decision in health professionals hands.

To save a baby, or to kill one.

cozmo on March 7, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Why is the life of the mother more important than the life of the baby?

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Legally requiring someone to die is more than most people are willing to ask…with good reason.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 7:13 PM

The unborn baby is a human being too.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:11 PM

No argument from me.

ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Didn’t life of the mother generally start out as covering ectopic pregnancies?

OmahaConservative on March 7, 2014 at 7:13 PM

…and on the “other side” we have Obama saying “God bless Planned Parenthood.”

And what do we get for our steadfast refusal to accept abortion on demand?

“Shut up, you stupid socons!!!!!!!”

JannyMae on March 7, 2014 at 7:14 PM

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:08 PM
BOTH are important.
21 years ago I could’ve been the poster girl for needing an abortion. I had emotional problems, health problem-you name it.

Spawn turns 20 next month.
I rest my case.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Duh.

Maybe if liberals weren’t such hidebound reactionaries clinging to their faith, they would understand the basic facts of life as evinced by Charles Darwin.

It’s hard to move the Overton Window when you keep killing your next generation.

HitNRun on March 7, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Legally requiring someone to die is more than most people are willing to ask…with good reason.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Is an unborn baby not ‘someone’?

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

I rest my case.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:14 PM

You didn’t make a point.

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Should one be intentionally sacrificed by human intervention to save the other?

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:18 PM

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:17 PM

My point is that killing my son-granted I was married at the time-wouldn’t have help my health or emotional problems long term. Long term-it likely would’ve made them worse.it would’ve made me a mother of a dead child.
Unless it’s done to save the life of the mother-a very rare circumstance-that’s all abortion EVER does.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM

The intro gives the impression that pro-abortion forces are stronger, but the opposite is the case.

No, because the anti-abortion forces insist on drawing the “true believers” circle around that 20% “always illegal” group. Just look at the comments in this thread to see that. As long as the base keeps saying that you’re either with the 20% or you’re a baby-murderer, the pro-abortion forces will continue to win.

Fabozz on March 7, 2014 at 7:20 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM

I’m happy for you, but your personal story does not provide a good test case.

ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Is an unborn baby not ‘someone’?

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Yes, but the mother can survive without the child and that is not true for an unborn child. If you have to make such a terrible choice then you make it in such a way as to preserve as much as you can. And as I said, people are simply not willing to ask that of someone.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Should one be intentionally sacrificed by human intervention to save the other?

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:18 PM

That is the crappy choice you are faced with. Running away from it won’t make anything better.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Unless it’s done to save the life of the mother-a very rare circumstance-that’s all abortion EVER does.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Were talking about two equally valuable lives, aren’t we?

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

For those of you who support infanticide in cases of rape… he was conceived through rape.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:26 PM

!970. I’d just got back from Nam after two years (we thought that extended experience would help our buds)and having run amok ref womyns. I was raised a Southron Baptist and was a 22 yoa ‘virgin’ (fine!) after 2 yrs in a Methodist college in Texas. Lost my feetball scholarship, soo (01/68) , got a letter headed with, “Greeting” (Always thought it was with an ‘s’).Lost my virginity just before being shipped (San Francisco- Eddy Street – another story) – didn’t wanna die a virgin. Just a little background ref the sanctity of life. Came back in 04/69 and met the love of my life, who just happened to have been impregnated by an asshole, as a ‘gotcha’ after having been abandoned (she and her beautiful, 4 yoa daughter – now, my beautiful, 47 yoa stepdaughter). I was an asshole, damaged by war and rooming with three other (troops – we were all sgts, so could get off post priveleges). Hungover, one early Sat morning, I just happened to hear the tap-tap-tap at the chamber door, and responded. No one there. Closed the door. Went back to soothe my head. Tap.tap. tap. Pissed, I just happened to look down and saw the cutist, bunny-jammied little saviour, I’d ever seen. She marched in, turned the console, b&w tv on and demanded breakfast. We tripped all over ourselves trying to makes her demands our wishes. The rest is history. I met her wonderful mom, learned of her predicament, and helped her though her most difficult decision – hers, not mine – she needed/wanted to concentrate on her daughter. 40 yrs, later. My views have not changed (raised a Southron Baptist), but I have come to understand unique circumstances, with the caveat that there are so many more options now that were not, heretofore.

vnvet on March 7, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Psalm 139:14 “…for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.”

OmahaConservative on March 7, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Is an unborn baby not ‘someone’?

DarkCurrent

Yes. And no one said the baby should be legally required to die, did they?

xblade on March 7, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Were talking about two equally valuable lives, aren’t we?

DarkCurrent

And you’re being obtuse, aren’t you?

xblade on March 7, 2014 at 7:37 PM

There should be an automatic loss ruling similar to Godwin’s law for random bible quotes.

ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 7:41 PM

thuja didn’t weigh in?

Schadenfreude on March 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Schadenfreude on March 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Thuja and others.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:50 PM

thuja didn’t weigh in?

Schadenfreude on March 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Probably hasn’t seen the thread yet…

OmahaConservative on March 7, 2014 at 7:51 PM

Were talking about two equally valuable lives, aren’t we?

DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

I wouldn’t argue that – it’s a difficult choice, one I hope I am never forced to face. However, something like an ectopic pregnancy will result in the death of both mother and fetus if not ‘treated’.

cktheman on March 7, 2014 at 7:54 PM

cktheman on March 7, 2014 at 7:54 PM

I put an ecoptic pregnancy in a totally different category. The baby in that situation won’t get much beyond very early 1st trimester no matter what.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 7:59 PM

Puppy abuse is cruelty. Abortion is not. This really is that simple.

thuja on March 29, 2013 at 7:26 PM

steebo77 on March 7, 2014 at 8:00 PM

And you’re being obtuse, aren’t you?

xblade on March 7, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Always. Its his schtick.

Bmore on March 7, 2014 at 8:01 PM

If the Pro-life movement was smart now would be the time to hammer late term abortions, using the concept that, no matter the disagreement of when life begins, we all should know life begins when the so called “fetus” is viable. In other words, can be kept alive outside the womb, and thus is a living human, and a citizen of the United States protected under the constitution.

Force the left to have to attack medical advancements and science by continuing to defend late term abortions. Better yet accuse them of defending late term abortions because their real objective is eugenics.

I know absolutist don’t like this approach, but you can’t win a war with one battle, it takes a series of battles for just look how the left has chipped away at freedoms and morality in this country. You have to chip back.

William Eaton on March 7, 2014 at 8:05 PM

thuja didn’t weigh in?

Schadenfreude on March 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM

I’ve been keeping a tab open in the hopes that she will show up.

I don’t think she is stupid enough to fight this one.

I know absolutist don’t like this approach…

William Eaton on March 7, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Many of them would rather have the issue than a smaller victory.

cozmo on March 7, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Should one be intentionally sacrificed by human intervention to save the other?
DarkCurrent on March 7, 2014 at 7:18 PM

Pardon my ignorance on this point, but does the mother’s life only become in peril at the point of actual birth?

anuts on March 7, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Karmashock on March 7, 2014 at 6:40 PM

And those views conveniently with your own personal beliefs. You sound just like a leftist. If it feels right, it must be true. Facts (and unborn babies) be damned.

We know where you stand. I will never stand with you.

njrob on March 7, 2014 at 8:12 PM

My 20 week pregnant friend sent me an audio file of her mass of cells abdomen parasite so I could hear its heartbeat. I’m guessing it is a heart or some other rhythmic clump of cells.

Murphy9 on March 7, 2014 at 8:18 PM

KILLING BABIES

Is not really good politics in most cases. Just ask Barbie Baby Killer Davis.

TX-96 on March 7, 2014 at 8:18 PM

There should be an automatic loss ruling similar to Godwin’s law for random bible quotes.
ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 7:41 PM

And if they aren’t random? BTW, Godwin’s law isn’t a logical fallacy or an automatic ruling against the validity of a discussion. HTH.

Murphy9 on March 7, 2014 at 8:21 PM

William Eaton on March 7, 2014 at 8:05 PM

And that’s why, even as an absolutist, I’d be willing to start incrementally. But late term abortions is too easy. We need a cut off closer to what those “civilized” European nations have… 3 months.

Too many will feel we’ve done enough if we just ban partial birth abortions and I’m trying to save lives, not just calm some weak consciences.

The compromise was made with slavery, but the abolitionists never stopped fighting. They took incremental wins and then kept going for more.

As does the left.

njrob on March 7, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Abortion to save the “life of the mother” is a vanishingly minute number- ask OB/GYNs and they’ll tell you they NEVER have been forced to kill a baby to save a mother and probably have never heard of such a case.

Further more, when abortion was illegal under all circumstances, no court EVAH ordered a woman to die or be crippled for life (that’s a puzzler- how would that work?) in order to save the baby. Just did not happen. Did. Not. Happen.

So why the torturous pleas “to save the life and health” in this latter day of amazing medical technology?

***

And for those of you who despise us “true believers”, us 13%ers- try to wrap your brains around the fact that we Neanderthal socons really truly think unborn babies are real live HUMANS, just like you, and killing innocent humans is pretty much always murder.

(I would even object to killing pro-choicers ‘cuz dammit, you could also be considered human.)

So tell me, you abortion-under-certain-circumstances types; under what circumstances you would acquiesce to the killing of- oh, I don’t know- Joos? Lawyers? Hair stylists? just as long as most hair stylists (or lawyers, or Baptists) were not executed. What if the circumstances were somebody would be really, really upset if this particular Baptist didn’t die?

Would you possibly say all random lawyer & Baptist executions were still murder, or would you listen to the voices who told you to sit down and shut up, you’re ruining it for the rest of us Republicans?

Pless1foEngrish on March 7, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Pless1foEngrish on March 7, 2014 at 8:26 PM

1. Outstanding comment!
2. You still should really change your handle please.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 8:31 PM

And if they aren’t random? BTW, Godwin’s law isn’t a logical fallacy or an automatic ruling against the validity of a discussion. HTH.

Murphy9 on March 7, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Yeah, I know. I just get frustrated when people derail a perfectly reasonable discussion with that nonsense.

ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM

This means that fully 40% think abortion should always be legal. Frightening.

As to CPAC: I’m beginning to think that when we attack the Leftist monster on multiple fronts, we should keep the attacks separate so that when the shoot back at, say, the pro-life movement, they can’t hurt the other parts of the movement. The Left has been doing this for a long time. It’s effective and it’s not wrong. Fight on your front and trust the other guy fighting his. You’re supporting him by damaging the enemy and staying apart so he has to shoot at multiple targets.

njcommuter on March 7, 2014 at 8:44 PM

*sigh*

Bmore on March 7, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Great news here with this poll..God bless Lila Rose, she does great work for the pro-life cause..I admire her a great deal

but shame on CPAC for no panels on this issue..it’s a very important issue..it’s the American genocide with 56 million Americans killed

sadsushi on March 7, 2014 at 8:49 PM

The recent finding that babies feel pain is freaking out more and more people. I suspect these numbers will grow.

John the Libertarian on March 7, 2014 at 9:02 PM

thuja didn’t weigh in?

Schadenfreude on March 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM

I’ve been keeping a tab open in the hopes that she will show up.

I don’t think she is stupid enough to fight this one.

….

cozmo on March 7, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Never a good bet.

slickwillie2001 on March 7, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Yeah, I know. I just get frustrated when people derail a perfectly reasonable discussion with that nonsense.
ElectricPhase on March 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Anti-religious bigot says what?

It matters to millions of us, but because it doesn’t matter to you it doesn’t count. Got it.

njrob on March 7, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Funny how 58% of the population can be extremist.

29Victor on March 7, 2014 at 10:21 PM

I’m sure most do oppose abortion. Many also oppose telling others what choices to make. And therein is the difference. I say Viva la Difference — and individual choice and freedom — the true conservative way.

Halli Casser-Jayne, Host of The Halli Casser-Jayne Show, Talk Radio for Fine Minds http://bit.ly/U4EEMd

The CJ Political Report on March 7, 2014 at 10:28 PM

I’m sure most do oppose abortion. Many also oppose telling others what choices to make. And therein is the difference. I say Viva la Difference — and individual choice and freedom — the true conservative way.

The CJ Political Report on March 7, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Most people (including most conservatives) are perfectly fine with telling people not to make certain choices. Rape, embezzlement, murder, theft, carjacking, cheating on exams, running out on your kids, cheating on your wife, drunk driving, talking at the theater and a host of other behaviors. Abortion is numbered alongside those behaviors for most people. They have no problem demanding that people shouldn’t engage in these behaviors.

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 10:42 PM

I’m sure most do oppose abortion. Many also oppose telling others what choices to make. And therein is the difference. I say Viva la Difference — and individual choice and freedom — the true conservative way.
The CJ Political Report on March 7, 2014 at 10:28 PM

I’m sure most do oppose theft. But by all means, let’s also celebrate the difference of individual choice and freedom that some may support theft.

anuts on March 7, 2014 at 10:44 PM

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Oops. Beat me to it.

anuts on March 7, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Oops. Beat me to it.

anuts on March 7, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Great minds think alike…and fools never differ!

sharrukin on March 7, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Polls don’t measure intensity.

For many leftists, abortion on demand is THE issue, the hill to die on, they will go down fighting for it. So in years when leftists are discouraged and less likely to turn out, it benefits Republicans to emphasize other issues, like economics and jobs, that increase that dejected attitude and stay away from hot button issues that can fire up the Democratic base.

So it makes sense to concentrate on other issues, and let the left figure out how to motivate their troops without our help.

Adjoran on March 7, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Ask them if they want the government to be in charge of pregnancy.

None of you has the nerve to do that.

Moesart on March 8, 2014 at 12:33 AM

Ask them if they want the government to be in charge of pregnancy.

None of you has the nerve to do that.

Moesart on March 8, 2014 at 12:33 AM

I guess if anyone is against infanticide they are asking the government to be in charge of childhood?

sharrukin on March 8, 2014 at 12:43 AM

I’m hoping technology will one day (the sooner the better) render abortions obsolete …

ShainS on March 7, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Me too. :)

TMOverbeck on March 8, 2014 at 12:50 AM

I’m hoping technology will one day (the sooner the better) render abortions obsolete …

ShainS on March 7, 2014 at 6:54 PM

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Me too. : )

TMOverbeck on March 8, 2014 at 12:50 AM

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Spontaneous, casual, “spur-of-the-moment” sexual intercourse will NEVER :

1) – cease being practiced … (this side of the
“Second Coming”).

2) – cease being “high-risk”, for unintended, unwanted, pregnancy.
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Conclusion : … Abortion services won’t be “obsolete”, until the “Second Coming” . . . . . but it DEFINITELY will become obsolete, then.

But that doesn’t mean abortion is “okay” … except for a pregnant lady whose life is genuinely endangered by the pregnancy.

listens2glenn on March 8, 2014 at 1:42 AM

Ask them if they want the government to be in charge of pregnancy.

None of you has the nerve to do that.

Moesart on March 8, 2014 at 12:33 AM

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(I’m going to go ahead, and pretend you just asked me that)
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The answer from me is “no” . . . anything else ?
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But I also don’t view the outlawing of ‘abortion-on-demand’ as being “government in charge of pregnancy”, either.

However, I DO view government mandated limits on the number of children a married couple may procreate (with mandatory abortions for those who are over the limit), as “government being in charge of pregnancy.”

listens2glenn on March 8, 2014 at 1:57 AM

I’m hoping technology will one day (the sooner the better) render abortions obsolete …

ShainS on March 7, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Me too. :)

TMOverbeck on March 8, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Whoever the idiot is that produces that cartoon, they really do produce some of the most sophomoric analogies, presumptions and eye-rolling hypotheticals and straw men argument I’ve ever seen. It’s a good thing the art work is so awesome, huh?

hawkdriver on March 8, 2014 at 4:43 AM

Karmashock on March 7, 2014 at 6:40 PM

+1

Excellent analysis!

MJBrutus on March 8, 2014 at 6:26 AM

So it makes sense to concentrate on other issues, and let the left figure out how to motivate their troops without our help.

Adjoran on March 7, 2014 at 10:58 PM

+1

MJBrutus on March 8, 2014 at 6:27 AM

2. You still should really change your handle please.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Can’t do it.

Hot Air has been totally unresponsive to emails from me and my significant other, who is also registered but can’t comment.

If someone knows a super-secret backdoor way to do it, I’d be grateful to hear.

Pless1foEngrish on March 8, 2014 at 6:45 AM

Pless1foEngrish on March 8, 2014 at 6:45 AM

Ed is your only bet. If you can’t get him interested in doing it. It won’t get done.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:20 AM

Ask them if they want the government to be in charge of pregnancy.

None of you has the nerve to do that the interest in doing push polling.

Moesart on March 8, 2014 at 12:33 AM

FIFY.

Stoic Patriot on March 8, 2014 at 8:31 AM

This means that fully 40% think abortion should always be legal. Frightening.

njcommuter on March 7, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Not quite. The 40% is comprised of people who believe in ought to be legal in “all” (27%) or “most” (13%) cases.

The “most” cases folks we can reason with and work to convince. The “all” cases folks are nuts.

Stoic Patriot on March 8, 2014 at 8:35 AM

The “all” cases folks are nuts.

Stoic Patriot on March 8, 2014 at 8:35 AM

Beg your pardon. One can have that philosophical position without being crazy.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:39 AM

Okay. Lets try this.

Bmore on March 8, 2014 at 8:39 AM

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