Bobby Jindal at CPAC: We have long said this president is a smart man. It may be time to revisit that assumption.

posted at 5:21 pm on March 6, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

To my mind, the front of public education is one of the most absolutely fundamental battles conservatives need to be fighting from the local level on up, and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal has made it his signature mission to reform Louisiana’s failing public school system into a workable model that presents equal opportunities to children from all incomes and backgrounds — much to the chagrin of Big Labor, the Obama administration, and Democrats in general. The Obama DOJ has been hypocritically employing the justice system to get in the way of the state’s school voucher program, but Jindal is having none of it:

Who could be against giving choices to parents? Eric Holder and President Obama, that’s who could be against giving parents choices. The Department of Justice has taken us to federal court to try to impede this program. Now, I want you to think about this. We’ve got Eric Holder and the Department of Justice trying to stand in the schoolhouse door to prevent minority kids, low-income kids, kids who haven’t had access to a great education the chance to go better schools. Over 90 percent of these kids are minority children. Over 100 percent of these kids are in low-income families who would otherwise go to C, D, or F schools. … I think it is cynical, immoral, and hypocritical for the attorney general and the president to deny these children the same choices and chances they would want for their own children. … It’s especially cynical to try to use those same rules designed to protect these children to trap them in failing schools. But I’ve got a message for Eric Holder and I’ve got a message for the president: We’re going to fight them every step of the way, even at the United States Supreme Court, to defend these children’s rights.

Incidentally, Reason has a great new video out today about a similar charter-school battle taking place in New York City, definitely worth the watch:


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Jindal was excellent today. I hope to hear more from him.

GOPRanknFile on March 6, 2014 at 5:25 PM

’m not sure what he learned in three years.

He learned that libs will believe anything he says! That has sure worked for him so far!

geojed on March 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Clearly Jindal hates people of color.

steebo77 on March 6, 2014 at 5:28 PM

I don’t think calling Obama stupid is a winning formula.

Jindal wiffs again.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Who’s “We”?

CTSherman on March 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Look who just caught up.

RovesChins on March 6, 2014 at 5:33 PM

I don’t think calling Obama stupid is a winning formula.

Jindal wiffs again.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

So you think Obaka’s smart?

8 weight on March 6, 2014 at 5:34 PM

I don’t think calling Obama stupid is a winning formula.

Jindal wiffs again.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

I don’t think it’s a losing formula, but I don’t think it matters. Obama was at least intelligent enough to be re-elected, and he has clearly shown himself to be a principled individual, even if he can’t be honest about what principles he espouses.

gryphon202 on March 6, 2014 at 5:34 PM

So you think Obaka’s smart?

8 weight on March 6, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Very. His policies are dumb.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:35 PM

CPAC has turned into crapfest.

RovesChins on March 6, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Time for Obama to show his academic records?

/Hahahahahaha. Just kidding! He doesn’t have to show you racists a damn thing. Racists.

Key West Reader on March 6, 2014 at 5:40 PM

So you think Obaka’s smart?

8 weight on March 6, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Very. His policies are dumb.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Corpseman? Austria is a language? 57 states? Polish death camps? Shall we go on?

RovesChins on March 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal has made it his signature mission to reform Louisiana’s failing public school system into a workable model that presents equal opportunities to children from all incomes and backgrounds

Jindal’s just trying to buy votes. Milton Friedman called a Jindal-type scheme “charity vouchers” and they won’t reform the educational system.

Read this Reason interview:

Reason: What would the biggest benefits be if vouchers were implemented in the way you originally discussed them in 1955?

Friedman: Let’s be clear. There are many kinds of possible vouchers, but there are two basic varieties, which I label charity vouchers and educational vouchers. Charity vouchers are unfortunately what we’ve gotten mostly so far. They are intended for low-income people who are unquestionably the worst victims of our deficient school system. Charity vouchers help the poor but they will not produce any real reform of the educational system. And what we need is a real reform.

I want vouchers to be universal, to be available to everyone. They should contain few or no restrictions on how they can be used.

sauldalinsky on March 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Wow, Cuomo isn’t a complete a$$hole after all….

Whoda Thunk???

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 5:42 PM

I don’t think it’s a losing formula, but I don’t think it matters. Obama was at least intelligent enough to be re-elected, and he has clearly shown himself to be a principled individual, even if he can’t be honest about what principles he espouses.

gryphon202 on March 6, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Barack could have performed live sex shows with 1rst graders instead of making speeches and still won both elections.

Let that sink in.

BobMbx on March 6, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Over 100 percent of these kids are in low-income families…

What?

FadeToBolivia on March 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM

I don’t know what the laws aer in Louisiana but Jindal is probably doing what he can under the system which up til now has been abysmal. There is a LOT that needs fixed in that state and it’s going to take time.

crankyoldlady on March 6, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Ds will vote for Box O. Rocks if Mr. Rocks is also a D.

22044 on March 6, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Jindal’s just trying to buy votes. Milton Friedman called a Jindal-type scheme “charity vouchers” and they won’t reform the educational system.

sauldalinsky on March 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Interesting that you say that. Look at how much Hell he’s catching (From the Federal Government no less) for just trying to implement the ‘charity’ vouchers.

I want vouchers to be universal, to be available to everyone. They should contain few or no restrictions on how they can be used.

I have yet to hear any kind of convincing argument against this…other than “Because Union!! H8er!!!”

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Bobby Jindal at CPAC: We have long said this president is a smart man. It may be time to revisit that assumption.

…past due!…like everything else!

KOOLAID2 on March 6, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Barack could have performed live sex shows with 1rst graders instead of making speeches and still won both elections.

Let that sink in.

BobMbx on March 6, 2014 at 5:42 PM

I wasn’t going to come right out and say that, but…yeah.

gryphon202 on March 6, 2014 at 5:49 PM

That Reason video on NYC’s charter schools is the type of thing conservative politicians could have a field day with. But Republicans won’t go there, it would be mean (mean to their fellow politicians).

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Obama was at least intelligent enough to be re-elected, and he has clearly shown himself to be a principled individual,

gryphon202 on March 6, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Respectfully disagree. Obaka was re-elected because 1) the electorate is stupid and 2) Obaka’s minions were talented enough to take full advantage of that stupidity.

To call Obaka a “prinicipled individual” is akin to saying that Maduro is principled, or Hitler was principled (no, I am not comparing Obaka to Hitler nonintelligent, verbaldouche, or the rest of you)

You have to call, excuse the innuendo-laced pun, a spade a spade. Jindal did just that, with complete honesty.

NOMOBO on March 6, 2014 at 5:52 PM

I want vouchers to be universal, to be available to everyone. They should contain few or no restrictions on how they can be used.

I have yet to hear any kind of convincing argument against this…other than “Because Union!! H8er!!!”

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 5:47 PM

No restrictions? As in: I can go and buy booze and marijuana with them?

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Barack could have performed live sex shows with DOGS instead of making speeches and still won both elections.

Let that sink in.

BobMbx on March 6, 2014 at 5:42 PM

fixed this for accuracy
well..we don’t know what he did in the moments before he ate that dog.

dmacleo on March 6, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Calling Obama voters stupid is an insult to stupid people.

merlich on March 6, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Over 100 percent of these kids are in low-income families…
What?
FadeToBolivia on March 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM

That is what happens when conservative politicians lie bro.

i_am_liberal on March 6, 2014 at 6:00 PM

I don’t think calling Obama stupid is a winning formula.

Jindal wiffs again.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Maybe not using Common Core to solve your “formula”….

So what’s your problem with the truth, anyway?

Fathom on March 6, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Way to Jindal, it’s about time somebody said it publicly.

rplat on March 6, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Jindal’s just trying to buy votes. Milton Friedman called a Jindal-type scheme “charity vouchers” and they won’t reform the educational system.

So what Milton Friedman said in 1955 applies to what Jindal has done since 2006? The public-school system was much better in 1955, before the teachers’ unions ruined it!!!

In reality, Jindal’s voucher system, if applied nationally, could not only help Republicans win minority votes, it could lead to a more educated populace. How many conservatives, from Rush Limbaugh on, have been complaining about “low-information voters” lured by the free goodies like Obamaphones?

If Republican candidates (for President or Senator) are willing to go into low-income areas of inner cities and offer poor people the opportunity to send their children to better schools, wouldn’t they want to try it and vote for the Republican? Especially if Gov. Jindal campaigns with him/her and tells voters “it worked in Louisiana, it can work for you here”.

Beyond the prospect of gaining minority votes in near-term elections (2014, 2016), this could hold long-term benefits for Republicans. If large numbers of minority children now in middle school or high school receive vouchers, graduate with A’s and B’s and go on to college, this could become a large group of future young voters GRATEFUL to Republicans for the opportunity to succeed in school, anxious to keep such opportunities available to younger students.

Gov. Jindal definitely has a great idea here, and smart Republicans elsewhere in the country should campaign on it.

Steve Z on March 6, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Speaking of context, Jindal was talking about Harvard and suggesting that BHO, the self-declared Constitutional scholar, ask for a refund. That’s Harvard Law School.

Since Barack Obama apparently thinks Constitution means an avenue near his house that he can have paved over if he doesn’t like the ride, I’d say Jindal hit the nail squarely on the head.

Besides, to quote one noble (fictional) American, “Stupid is as stupid does.”

Case closed.

IndieDogg on March 6, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Wow, Cuomo isn’t a complete a$$hole after all….

Whoda Thunk???

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 5:42 PM

HUH?

Fathom on March 6, 2014 at 6:07 PM

CPAC has long gone past it’s no sale date. It is now useless as a conservative organization. Rubio, McConnel, Jeb Bush(who was busy elsewhere) Christie,and the other Establishment Dem. lites make it a joke among conservatives. It is nothing more than a tool of the RNC. The sooner conservatives start ignoring it and marginalizing it, the better. It should be renamed the RPAC. The Rino Political Action Committee.

they lie on March 6, 2014 at 6:08 PM

No restrictions? As in: I can go and buy booze and marijuana with them?

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Wow…really?

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:11 PM

So what Milton Friedman said in 1955 applies to what Jindal has done since 2006?

Steve Z on March 6, 2014 at 6:04 PM

No, Friedman said that in a 2005 interview with Nick Gillespie of Reason specifically discussing 50 years of poltical reforms with school vouchers. Friedman died in 2006 so he couldn’t respond to Jindal specifically.

Jindal’s idea of trying to buy votes from low-income parents with more handouts is a terrible idea fiscally and it won’t gain net votes for the GOP electorally. The GOP is not going to out Santa Claus the Dems.

sauldalinsky on March 6, 2014 at 6:13 PM

I see the lunatic asylum was broken out of…

ladyingray on March 6, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Wow…really?

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:11 PM

I’m in favor of school vouchers, but anytime the government starts talking about handing out free money with no restrictions, yes really, my ears perk up.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Over 100 percent of these kids are in low-income families…
What?
FadeToBolivia on March 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM

That is what happens when conservative politicians lie bro.

i_am_liberal on March 6, 2014 at 6:00 PM

A new troll! Was i_am_stupid handle already taken by another liberal?

RovesChins on March 6, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Well, I’m not 100% sure on this but I don’t think they send you a bag of cash or a cashier’s check…..

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:17 PM

When Obama heard about higher education, he thought they meant the CHOOM gang!

Sven on March 6, 2014 at 6:17 PM

So you think Obaka’s smart?

8 weight on March 6, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Very. His policies are dumb.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:35 PM

How smart is it to continually pursue dumb policies?

AZCoyote on March 6, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Well, I’m not 100% sure on this but I don’t think they send you a bag of cash or a cashier’s check…..

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:17 PM

That is basically what he said. Was he misquoted?

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Wow, Cuomo isn’t a complete a$$hole after all….

Whoda Thunk???

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 5:42 PM
HUH?

Fathom on March 6, 2014 at 6:07 PM

MEA CULPA!

I didn’t watch the other video…I knew about DiAssihole wanting to close some Charter Schools, but didn’t follow up on Cuomo’s response….

Fathom on March 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Libs like to call republicans racists, but forget that it was democrats that impeded the civil rights movement. Democrats doing what democrats do best, hypocracy.
http://www.ask.com/wiki/Stand_in_the_Schoolhouse_Door

AppraisHer on March 6, 2014 at 6:22 PM

That is basically what he said. Was he misquoted?

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Holy Jesus…..

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Over 100 percent of these kids are in low-income families…
What?
FadeToBolivia on March 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM

That is what happens when conservative politicians lie bro.

i_am_liberal on March 6, 2014 at 6:00 PM

He was just trying to use the kind of new skool math that Barry understands.

Remember Barry is the guy who promised Americans that Obamacare would reduce their health insurance premiums 300%.

AZCoyote on March 6, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Holy Jesus…..

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Is that supposed to be a rational argument?

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:23 PM

I want vouchers to be universal, to be available to everyone. They should contain few or no restrictions on how they can be used.
I have yet to hear any kind of convincing argument against this…other than “Because Union!! H8er!!!”

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 5:47 PM
No restrictions? As in: I can go and buy booze and marijuana with them?

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Errr…. no. You use them to pay for school for your kid. Don’t be stupid.

Fathom on March 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Jindal’s idea of trying to buy votes from low-income parents with more handouts is a terrible idea fiscally and it won’t gain net votes for the GOP electorally. The GOP is not going to out Santa Claus the Dems.

sauldalinsky on March 6, 2014 at 6:13 PM

If you took the 60 billion we are spending at the Dept of Education and converted it to individual education saving accounts I think you would gain votes very quickly. Let the dems argue it’s better spent in Washington.

monalisa on March 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Is that supposed to be a rational argument?

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:23 PM

So you take the term ‘unrestricted’ and apply it to a government school voucher that you can use to go buy dope with a rational question??

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:28 PM

WE never said he was smart, the media did.

Over 100 percent of these kids are in low-income families who would otherwise go to C, D, or F schools

Just picking a bone here, how do over 100% attend charter schools?

herm2416 on March 6, 2014 at 6:30 PM

Jindal’s idea of trying to buy votes from low-income parents with more handouts is a terrible idea fiscally and it won’t gain net votes for the GOP electorally. The GOP is not going to out Santa Claus the Dems.

sauldalinsky on March 6, 2014 at 6:13 PM

If you took the 60 billion we are spending at the Dept of Education and converted it to individual education saving accounts I think you would gain votes very quickly. Let the dems argue it’s better spent in Washington.

monalisa on March 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Somebody remind me where the constitutional authority is for federal oversight of education. I’m not finding it.

gryphon202 on March 6, 2014 at 6:31 PM

Errr…. no. You use them to pay for school for your kid. Don’t be stupid.

Fathom on March 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Ideally. And the schools, for example, in that Reason video look like a case of that, on face value. However, given the government’s track record of administering welfare programs, the anti-religious sentiment of some of our officials, and their general untrustworthiness …i’m supposed to take a general statement like: oh …we’ll just do it with few or no restrictions. It’ll all work out, trust me. Sorry, blindly trusting them would be stupid.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:32 PM

So you think Obaka’s smart?

8 weight on March 6, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Very. His policies are dumb.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Don’t confuse smart with crafty, faraway. He is crafty and sneaky, quite far from smart.

herm2416 on March 6, 2014 at 6:33 PM

“Hey…Freddy…. I need a dime bag of weed and an 8-Ball…”

“No problem, dude.”

“Cool, cool…. you take Federal School Vouchers, right?”

“Of course I do, man! Only an idiot would think I don’t!”

“Right, right… cool…”

ANNNNNND MORONIC SCENE

Fathom on March 6, 2014 at 6:33 PM

So you take the term ‘unrestricted’ and apply it to a government school voucher that you can use to go buy dope with a rational question??

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:28 PM

Given how the states administer, for example, the food stamp program, yes.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Given how the states administer, for example, the food stamp program, yes.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:34 PM

You win. Your apparent intellect has me at a loss.

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Fathom on March 6, 2014 at 6:33 PM

I won’t call you stupid, like you did me. Only gullible and naive.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:40 PM

You win. Your apparent intellect has me at a loss.

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Sarcasm instead of an actual argument. Ok.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM

No time to read, but both quotes are easily supportable. Do yourself a favor tonight — do an internet search for the photo of O’Bozo that the Chicago Sun-Times ran today. Look at it vewy closewy.

Jaibones on March 6, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Given how the states administer, for example, the food stamp program, yes.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:34 PM
You win. Your apparent intellect has me at a loss.

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Well, let’s just pack up the voucher idea and toss it out…. obviously there’s no way we could ever figure out to, oh, I don’t know, have a system of vouchers where the government pays the school directly…. no, no…. could never work!

God Bless the Children, for They are Lost!

So Sayeth Fenris

Fathom on March 6, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Sarcasm instead of an actual argument. Ok.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Well, maybe you could explain how a person can sell a school voucher for dope??

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Sarcasm instead of an actual argument. Ok.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM
Well, maybe you could explain how a person can sell a school voucher for dope??

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Let me try!

It is NOT like an EBT card; if you use a voucher you use it by directing the government to pay the school of your choice. That’s it. End of story.

Fathom on March 6, 2014 at 6:47 PM

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:45 PM

I already brought up the food stamps issue. If you hadn’t spent so much time being a jerk we could’ve had a discussion. As it is, it’s time for me to go and get some stuff done in real life.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Stop this “we” nonsense, Jindal. Speak for yourself, slow learner.

VorDaj on March 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM

I already brought up the food stamps issue. If you hadn’t spent so much time being a jerk we could’ve had a discussion. As it is, it’s time for me to go and get some stuff done in real life.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

“I Got My A$$ Kicked” instead of an actual argument.

We’ll wait for an answer to how some one can trade a school voucher for dope…

Won’t wait up for it.

Have fun in real life.

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Did Cruz speak yet? I don’t see a post about it.

Dongemaharu on March 6, 2014 at 6:54 PM

gryphon202 on March 6, 2014 at 6:31 PM

so what is it exactly you want.

name me a viable candidate.

or are you just an eeyore?

renalin on March 6, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Jindal’s just trying to buy votes. Milton Friedman called a Jindal-type scheme “charity vouchers” and they won’t reform the educational system.

sauldalinsky on March 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Don’t you think charity vouchers are a good way to get the camel’s nose into the tent?

Grammar Nazi on March 6, 2014 at 7:06 PM

So you think Obaka’s smart?

8 weight on March 6, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Very. His policies are dumb.

faraway

He isn’t very smart after all then, is he?

xblade on March 6, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Dongemaharu on March 6, 2014 at 6:54 PM

It is posted at the Right Scoop..:)

Dire Straits on March 6, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Here is the Cruz speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FwT3Dt45Bw

Jindal is correct that charter schools, where the parents direct where that tax portion for their child’s/children’s education is to be directed, will raise the academic standards and success substantively.

The Left is creating a red herring that such schools lead to segregation policies. They are tarring Jindal with a broad brush. Jindal’s point is that the youngsters enrolled via vouchers are in schools per their parents’ choice. The parents are engaged in their children’s learning. There are no quotas, racially or otherwise, for enrollment in these schools.

onlineanalyst on March 6, 2014 at 7:18 PM

Also, the opportunity for a better education is not limited to the very wealthy, who can pay tuition, when a voucher can be available for the less-than-affluent. (That was the point he was making about the 100 percent reference.)

onlineanalyst on March 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM

I’ve never believed for one minute his intellectual powers. Everything in life has been handed to him with no proof to back it up. Show me transcripts, show me his papers, show me his visiting law professor class syllabus. There is nothing in the public domain to lend credence to his accolades. George bush put his academic record out. Nothing outstanding but nothing to be ashamed of. Obama can’t even do that

jaywemm on March 6, 2014 at 7:22 PM

I never said that. I have to see his transcripts in order to have an opinion

Brock Robamney on March 6, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Stop this “we” nonsense, Jindal. Speak for yourself, slow learner.

VorDaj on March 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM

I think that Jindal was being diplomatic in describing the media con job that was sold to the American public.

onlineanalyst on March 6, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Jindal’s just trying to buy votes. Milton Friedman called a Jindal-type scheme “charity vouchers” and they won’t reform the educational system.
sauldalinsky on March 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Dr Friedman is right. Vouchers are basically subsidies that will eventually dry up the supply on education. If you offer something cheaper than what can be bought in the free market, demand will increase, and supply will decrease

Brock Robamney on March 6, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Don’t you think charity vouchers are a good way to get the camel’s nose into the tent?

Grammar Nazi on March 6, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Electorally, you may buy a few specific votes (i.e. low-income parents with school age children whose vouchers provide them more $$ than D giveaways.) You’d also lose votes from fiscally responsible voters in the rest of the population.

I think the GOP should create policies based on conservative principles rather than the current electorally-losing strategy to outhustle the Left on the liberal gift game.

sauldalinsky on March 6, 2014 at 7:35 PM

An aside about “the best and the brightest”:
http://spectator.org/articles/58028/hillary-and-cult-best-and-brightest

While the article lambasts Hillary, the “smartest woman in the world,” the same point could be made about Obysmal.

onlineanalyst on March 6, 2014 at 7:35 PM

Vouchers direct the money of the per-pupil basis of funding a school, to the school of one’s choice. It is not a subsidy.

onlineanalyst on March 6, 2014 at 7:39 PM

We have long said that this president is a smart man. It may be time to revisit that assumption.

Who’s this “we”, Kemo Sabe?

Cleombrotus on March 6, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Just picking a bone here, how do over 100% attend charter schools?
herm2416 on March 6, 2014 at 6:30 PM

He probably meant to say “almost”. At least he didn’t say over 100% speak Austrian!!

Nutstuyu on March 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Dr Friedman is right. Vouchers are basically subsidies that will eventually dry up the supply on education. If you offer something cheaper than what can be bought in the free market, demand will increase, and supply will decrease
Brock Robamney on March 6, 2014 at 7:30 PM

So what is Freidmans alternative?

Nutstuyu on March 6, 2014 at 7:49 PM

I don’t think calling Obama stupid is a winning formula.

Jindal wiffs again.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

OK, let’s call Obama a genius. Better yet, let’s call his voters stupid. That’s what they are.

cajunpatriot on March 6, 2014 at 7:50 PM

It seems like many posters here are McCain/RINO supporters. Jindal is a real conservative. Republicans mocking Republicans is what McCain and King do. What’s wrong with you people?

cajunpatriot on March 6, 2014 at 7:51 PM

I’ve never believed for one minute his intellectual powers. Everything in life has been handed to him with no proof to back it up. Show me transcripts, show me his papers, show me his visiting law professor class syllabus. There is nothing in the public domain to lend credence to his accolades. George bush put his academic record out. Nothing outstanding but nothing to be ashamed of. Obama can’t even do that

jaywemm on March 6, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Agreed. This is what is so perverse about Affirmative Action. It deprives its ‘beneficiaries’ of incentives to study, work, and achieve at the level that their educational credentials should demand.

Maybe little Barry had the brain at one time such that he could have turned out knowledgeable and intelligent, but because he didn’t have to study, he didn’t. Every grade, degree, accolade, job, and political office in his entire life was acquired not on his talents, but on AA.

slickwillie2001 on March 6, 2014 at 7:53 PM

I thought we all knew he wasn’t very smart from the beginning. His cult followers just can’t or won’t see it. At least he’s not very well educated.

crankyoldlady on March 6, 2014 at 8:06 PM

Very. His policies are dumb.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:35 PM

In my opinion, Obama is not very bright. I would put his IQ on a Stanford Binet test in the 95-110 range.

I would doubt his math SATs broke 500.

His academic accomplishments are due to Affirmative Action.

Much of the credit for the high IQ goes to his “white” accent, which is difficult for persons born into black families and raised by black families to achieve, but which he comes by naturally, having been born to and raised by a white family.

However, he has tremendous interpersonal intelligence. He knows how to read and manipulate people. He knows how to win elections. He just has no idea how to govern, or to formulate policy that will produce beneficial results.

talkingpoints on March 6, 2014 at 8:24 PM

What the great Dr. Friedman didn’t take into account was that the money spent on these charity vouchers is already being confiscated from Americans and spent on “education.” The voucher programs would divert money to the charter schools. School vouchers leading to success in the class room and into adulthood changes the script of who is actually trying to help the poor and disadvantaged. That is why the left is opposed. Without the lies and accusations by the leftists, the base of their voting bloc might see the truth with their own eyes.

We can tell them that the Democrats are lying to them all that we want but they have no cause to believe us. The vouchers are the way to shine the light on the malfeasance of the Democrat party. The Democrats are the party of slavery after all. They instituted it, fought a war to keep it and now flat out lie to maintain it. This time the slavery comes in the form of votes for food and services. Think about it, the rich Democrat slave owners provided the slaves with food and housing back before the civil war. What’s changed? Blacks have the right to vote, but their vote is owned by the Democrats. The Democrats didn’t change their ways, just their tactics.

rmel80 on March 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Do you think he’s calling Obama stupid or just pointing out that we were all sold a bill of goods that may have been an exaggeration. To say the least.

Cindy Munford on March 6, 2014 at 9:07 PM

“I Got My A$$ Kicked” instead of an actual argument.

We’ll wait for an answer to how some one can trade a school voucher for dope…

Won’t wait up for it.

Have fun in real life.

BigWyo on March 6, 2014 at 6:53 PM

If you’re not waiting up for it, I’ll respond for anyone else reading this. Yes, I think school vouchers could be a good thing, and weaken the teacher’s unions. But if you have no qualms at all about a giant new government entitlement program, then you are not a fiscal conservative. Just the fact that states don’t necessarily city and property taxes, but probably will the vouchers is a recipe for disaster. Add in the Federal gov’t and the opportunity for mischief and redundant taxation gets even worse.

If you don’t think people use ebt cards to buy stuff they’re not technically allowed to, then you are hopelessly naive. In fact, nearly all gov’t welfare programs get abused, and this one would be no different.

And while I’m no angel when it comes to sarcasm, I usually attempt to have a point. This “hardy har har you’re stupid and a liar” is just tiresome.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 10:17 PM

However, he has tremendous interpersonal intelligence. He knows how to read and manipulate people.

talkingpoints on March 6, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Indeed. He’s also what I might call a “gifted” liar. Put all those dominant attributes together and you’ve got nothing more than a talented grifter.

lynncgb on March 6, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Vouchers direct the money of the per-pupil basis of funding a school, to the school of one’s choice. It is not a subsidy.

onlineanalyst on March 6, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Exactly. Attach the money to the child and you increase quality as schools compete for those dollars.

Murf76 on March 6, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Jindal was excellent today. I hope to hear more from him.

GOPRanknFile on March 6, 2014 at 5:25 PM

He will be a great president.
Hmmm…Who’ll be Veep in ’16?

itsnotaboutme on March 6, 2014 at 11:24 PM

I don’t think calling Obama stupid is a winning formula.

Jindal wiffs again.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

“Again”?
Oh, you’re still stuck on that old SOTU response?
He has proved his ability to be a great speaker repeatedly.
Including this speech.
This was a very early red-meat-for-the-base speech.
No one will hold it against him on election day 2016 when they’re voting for the Jindal/____ ticket.

itsnotaboutme on March 6, 2014 at 11:28 PM

I don’t think calling Obama stupid is a winning formula.

Jindal wiffs again.

faraway on March 6, 2014 at 5:30 PM

He didn’t say, “Obama is stupid.” He instead suggested revisiting the assumption that Obama is intelligent. Subtle, but the distinction is important. People (read: liberals) easily confuse cunning with intelligence. Obama is cunning; it is why he is such a phenomenal liar and thief. Obama is not intelligent; he is not able to correlate expectations and reality in any way that produces a functional product.

Over 90 percent of these kids are minority children. Over 100 percent of these kids are in low-income families who would otherwise go to C, D, or F schools.

To the moronic twits who are nitpicking the “Over 100%”, look at the context. The human brain is wired for repetition, and these two sentences start almost exactly the same. “Over 90%” and “Almost 100%” can blur together a bit, especially if they’re placed right next to each other in notes, or if the reader has mild dyslexia (like 5-10% of the US population).

Asurea on March 7, 2014 at 2:09 AM

But if you have no qualms at all about a giant new government entitlement program, then you are not a fiscal conservative.

Fenris on March 6, 2014 at 10:17 PM

In case you didn’t see these, Fenris:

Vouchers direct the money of the per-pupil basis of funding a school, to the school of one’s choice. It is not a subsidy.

onlineanalyst on March 6, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Exactly. Attach the money to the child and you increase quality as schools compete for those dollars.

Murf76 on March 6, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Ideally, schools should all be privatized.

Vouchers is a crutch for a broken system.
Privatization would be complete healing.

But the voting public is not yet ready to be healed.
They’re ready for a crutch.

itsnotaboutme on March 7, 2014 at 2:15 AM

In case you didn’t see these, Fenris:

Vouchers direct the money of the per-pupil basis of funding a school, to the school of one’s choice. It is not a subsidy.

onlineanalyst on March 6, 2014 at 7:39 PM

itsnotaboutme on March 7, 2014 at 2:15 AM

That’s all well and good, but vouchers are generally a state by state thing. The details vary, by state and over time. And if vouchers really take hold in a big way, the federal government is going to want to stick their fingers in too. Some people see the train wreck of our public schools and think: big government is the answer, only we’ll do it the right way this time because …oh just because.

Well, maybe it’ll work out into something better. But there are all kinds of pitfalls, just the implications for religious schools are many and immense. Just blithely ignoring them will lead to nothing good. I guess the old truism is still true: the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. And no one’s probably reading this anymore anyway.

Fenris on March 7, 2014 at 2:39 AM

Fenris, the issue has already come up-

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/04/supreme-court-upholds-arizona-school-vouchers/

The article isn’t terribly informative in terms of the different arguments, but I believe one of the main arguments used by proponents of being able to use the vouchers towards religious schools was that the money was funding education, not religion.

To those who think that voucher money for religious schools does fund religion, I would ask: What makes the tax money that goes to regular public schools any better? Do they not teach a worldview as well? (Hint: they do.)

At any rate, there are some places where the only decent schools in the area are the religious ones.

Cheshire_Kat on March 7, 2014 at 4:02 AM

Smart? No. Devious? Yes.

sadatoni on March 7, 2014 at 7:15 AM

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