Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on March 4, 2014 by Allahpundit

In many ways the most dangerous aspect of the rationale Moscow has laid out for its intervention is what might be called “the Putin doctrine,” which is that it has the right to intervene to “protect” Russian populations wherever they may be. It used that rationale in its war against Georgia in 2008. And since there are large Russian populations in the Baltics, which are NATO members, that’s a red flag right there that has to be a red line…

“Putin has two guiding principles,” Daalder told The Daily Beast. “First, he has a zero sum view of the world, which is that anything that is not mine is yours.” The whole Western European notion of mutual security is, from his point of view, almost incomprehensible or, perhaps worse, contemptible.

And secondly, says Daalder, “we should take Putin at his word that he believes the dissolution of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of the 20th century.” Step by step, as relentlessly as the Czars of the 18th and 19th centuries or the Soviet rulers of the 20th, he is trying to reconstruct the Russian Empire.

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To the naked eye it may seem that Putin is winning this round hands down. We doubt that he thinks so. He has overreached twice, and the second gamble is still undecided. In most of Ukraine he is hated and opposed. It is a mark of his miscalculation that he had to create his own rebellion there rather than being able to take advantage of a genuine domestic resistance to the Kiev revolutionary regime. None of his present choices are ideal: To intervene further in Ukraine in order to threaten Kiev risks getting bogged down in a prolonged guerrilla war. To sit tight in Crimea illegally could — assuming the Western will — soon degenerate into an endless crisis between East and West at some unknown cost to Russia in trade and financial sanctions. And to withdraw under cover of diplomacy would be seen as a humiliation. The world’s resigned but quick acceptance of a lightning coup — for which he must have hoped — doesn’t seem to be in the cards…

This specific violation poses a special problem for two groups. The first is the signatories of the Budapest declaration, which include the U.S. and Britain, because they are on record as guaranteeing Crimea’s status as part of Ukraine. Ukraine may not be a NATO member entitled to the protection of Article 5, but it has exactly the same claim on these two Western powers as if it were. They can’t simply shuffle off this crisis onto the U.N.; it is their direct responsibility. Any U.S. or U.K. statesman who fails to fulfill that obligation is hereafter forbidden to criticize Neville Chamberlain. The second group is those European theorists — notably Sir Robert Cooper, who argued the point capably and seriously a decade ago in The Breaking of Nations — who assert that Europe has moved into a postmodern Kantian world governed by a network of overlapping law rather than by power politics. For the moment, this crisis seems to be challenging those theories; but that may change. How the European Union responds to this crisis will tell us a great deal about the kind of international order that we will be living in as the 21st century unfolds.

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All of this adds up to a highly charged and assertive messianic ideology. If Putin took it all literally, he’d be a Russian ayatollah. Up until now, he hasn’t taken it literally. His regime has used this nationalism to mobilize public opinion and to explain itself to itself. But it has tamped down every time this nationalistic ideology threatens to upend the status quo.

The danger is that Russia is now involved in a dispute in Ukraine that touches and activates the very core of this touchy messianism. The tiger of quasi-religious nationalism, which Putin has been riding, may now take control. That would make it very hard for Putin to stop in this conflict where rational calculus would tell him to stop. Up until now, we have not been in a Huntingtonian conflict of civilizations with Russia. But with passions aroused and philosophic zealotry at full boil, it may temporarily appear that we are.

The implication for Western policymakers is that we may not be dealing with a “normal” regime, which can be manipulated by economic and diplomatic carrots and sticks. Threatening to take away inclusion in the Group of 8 or freeze some assets may become irrelevant because the Russian regime will have moved up to a different level. The Russian nation may be motivated by a deep, creedal ideology that has been wafting through the culture for centuries and has now found an unlikely, cynical and cold-eyed host.

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The choice here could not be more stark. Keep your nukes and keep your land. Give up your nukes and get raped. This will be the second time that Obama administration policy has taught the rest of the world that nuclear weapons are important things to have. The Great Loon of Libya gave up his nuclear program and the west, as other leaders see it, came in and wasted him.

It is almost unimaginable after these two powerful demonstrations of the importance of nuclear weapons that a country like Iran will give up its nuclear ambitions. Its heavily armed, Shiite-persecuting neighbor Pakistan has a hefty nuclear arsenal and Pakistan’s links with Iran’s nemesis and arch-rival Saudi Arabia grow closer with every passing day. What piece of paper could Obama possibly sign—especially given that his successor is almost certainly going to be more hawkish—that would replace the security that Iran can derive from nuclear weapons? North Korea would be foolish not to make the same calculation, and a number of other countries will study Ukraine’s fate and draw the obvious conclusions…

The specter of Jimmy Carter, temporarily but not permanently banished by the successful raid on Bin Laden, is what has haunted this president’s foreign policy from the beginning. President Obama’s mix of Wilsonian aspirations and Jeffersonian caution is closer to Jimmy Carter’s basic worldview than to that of any other modern president. So far, President Obama and his team have managed to fend off the specter of Carterization, mostly by managing events more successfully than the Carter team could do, but also because American power in the world today is much greater than it was in the Carter years and we enjoy a larger margin of error.

The Obama administration is now being challenged, and not only in Crimea. Both friends and foes around the world (and in the United States) increasingly see a Georgia peanut farmer when they look towards the Oval Office. If President Obama allows that impression to become irremovably fixed, he and the nation he leads have some ugly times ahead.

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“A lot has about the administration’s foreign policy in recent weeks and especially recent days, and a lot of it has been critical of the president,” Wagner began. “And I’m sort of the camp that, you know, I’m not sure if the president could have done anything to prevent Vladimir Putin from doing what he was going to do, but it puts the White House in a position where their foreign policy seems incredibly reactive and has so, for almost the recent past, I mean, years at this point.”

“We know, through rhetoric, that the president has wanted to pivot to Asia, but events beyond his control have forced him to look to the Middle East and to Eastern Europe,” she continued. “And one gets sense, perhaps his heart has never been in it, he hasn’t truly organized or articulated a foreign policy the way that he perhaps would if it was another region of the world.”

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Putin is in the former group. He watched as he got his way with Georgia, Syria, and Iran, and also on missile defense installations in Poland and the Czech Republic; he further observes the U.S. doing little in response to China’s saber rattling in the East China Sea. He has seen that by the exercise of power (through others or his own) the West shows weakness and so he can enhance Russia’s interests — as he defines them. And he does not define them by being on the right side of history, being a member in good standing of the G-8, or being spoken well of in diplomatic circles. He certainly does not define them by being a good partner in the global effort to thwart climate change. He’s been rebuilding the prestige and power of Russia since before he became president the first time and for the last five years he’s been able to do that quite vigorously with muscle and might and intimidation…

How is it that the president, a smart man, and his advisors, also smart, have been so wrong about Putin, the Iranian mullahs, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Syrian dictator, and others? Because they want to believe that the realist view where power and anarchy reign is wrong and that the idealist view of cooperation and international law is right. No amount of facts on the ground has dissuaded them of this belief until, one hopes, now.

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Singh’s point about the process shortcomings underscores that this is not just about Ukraine. It is also not just about process or, in the end, about the president. More importantly, this is about a message that has gone out to the world — to Putin and Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and Kim Jong Un and Karzai and other despots and troublemakers. They know that for whatever reason — whether recent history, or the personality of leaders, or bad process, or the aftershocks of economic crisis, or mismanagement — that since World War II the one nation that has been most depended on to push back on those posing a threat to the global peace is less likely to do so today — by only degrees perhaps but palpably nonetheless — than at any time during that period. And these despots, being who they are and the human nature of bullies and thugs and opportunists being what it is, are taking advantage.

Perhaps this Ukraine crisis will be the one that helps elevate this president, his team, and the processes upon which they rely to be better prepared, to have better options prepared beforehand, to better know the difference between empty gestures and meaningful leverage, to be more decisive, to personally engage with allies more effectively, to make faltering alliances work better, to know not just where we will step back but also where we must step forward. It is still evolving. Perhaps, the president and his team are simply evaluating and planning and will come up with the bold strokes needed to stop baldfaced aggression like that which has taken place in Crimea.

We can only hope.

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Bolshoi Ballerina

Bmore on March 4, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Calling all Buff Raccoons!

Murphy9 on March 4, 2014 at 10:41 PM

I’m here

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:41 PM

TA-DAAAAAA!!

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Ratso!

OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:42 PM

More Putin time.

USSR Mark II, only 4 Baltic states away.

nobar on March 4, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Just checking in to say goodnight.

CurtZHP on March 4, 2014 at 10:43 PM

It would be interesting to see the former victorious Cossacks take action…

OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Dammit!

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Calling all Rude Buffoons!

OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Honest lib! ( he’s replaced Bishop)

wolly4321 on March 4, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Calling all Buff Raccoons!

Murphy9 on March 4, 2014 at 10:41 PM

heh…

OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Gov. Greg Abbott!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 4, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Gripping photo from inside the President’s strategy meeting on #Ukraine.

kcewa on March 4, 2014 at 10:26 PM

kcewa: Those are Golf socks/shoes!!:)

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Canopfor:

Look at what’s on the screen in front of them – a Wikipedia page on Ukraine. I always thought that’s where they got their info.

And off to the left is Baghdad Bob. Look at what Biden is eating.

kcewa on March 4, 2014 at 10:47 PM

I see hagfish is crapping in the TX MKH thread…

OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:48 PM

I see hagfish is crapping in the TX MKH thread…

OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Evenin’ hagfish.

cozmo on March 4, 2014 at 10:43 PM

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Get over here and rinse my board out!

LancePantherman on March 4, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Hi Ya Newtie!!!

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:48 PM

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Howdy! Howdy! Howdy! :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Calling all Buff Raccoons!
Murphy9 on March 4, 2014 at 10:41 PM

You means tough Baboons?

Doc Holliday on March 4, 2014 at 10:49 PM

I see hagfish is crapping in the TX MKH thread…

OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:48 PM

She saw the “Bush” word.

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Calling all Rude Buffoons!

OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:44 PM

At least you didn’t cakk us tonight. That left a mark.

Decicated to OC: When I’m Calling You — oooo ooo ooooooo — ooo oooo ooooooooooooooooo…

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:49 PM

…ok!…so MKH….was a minute off!

KOOLAID2 on March 4, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Damn, LOLZ! My ma’ had that record…

OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Take two steps back and pretend you want mass conflaguration.

Then get a map of Northern Africa, the middle East and Eastern Europe.

It’s getting pretty ugly.

We are losing entire flanks. We got nothing.

wolly4321 on March 4, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:49 PM

THAT’S gonna leave a BIGGER mark!

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Decicated to OC:

Could be “dedicated.” Isn’t “dessicated” when you dry out something?

Hmm .. getting hungry …

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 10:48 PM

You know, “Newtie” just sounds lizardy, I’m gonna call you Beauty instead. More accurate!

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Why do people continue to attribute the “He’s so smart, and so are his advisers” meme to this president? So many examples to refute that. So many.

BKeyser on March 4, 2014 at 10:52 PM

You know, “Newtie” just sounds lizardy …

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Hello — I’m the reptile here. Well, reptile-like.

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:53 PM

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Canopfor:

Look at what’s on the screen in front of them – a Wikipedia page on Ukraine. I always thought that’s where they got their info.

And off to the left is Baghdad Bob. Look at what Biden is eating.

kcewa on March 4, 2014 at 10:47 PM

kcewa: Lol,…,I thought it was a real image, haha!:)

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:53 PM

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:52 PM

I got it from Dennis Miller, Darlin’–about the 2.10 mark… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 10:53 PM

We are losing entire flanks. We got nothing.

wolly4321 on March 4, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Oh NO! We have the admiration and respect of all our former enemies that Boosh made, and the world is more equal now that the USA has been shrunk down to size.

Get with the hope and change, will ya!

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:54 PM

You know, “Newtie” just sounds lizardy …

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Hello — I’m the reptile here. Well, reptile-like.

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Alien:

Sounds like a LizardPeopleVoter!:)
(snark)

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:54 PM

…ok!…so MKH….was a minute off!

KOOLAID2 on March 4, 2014 at 10:50 PM

She was time correcting for Chandler Wobble.

(That’s variation (wobble) of the Earth’s rotation on its axis.)

viking01 on March 4, 2014 at 10:55 PM

THAT’S gonna leave a BIGGER mark!

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 10:50 PM

I’m no Martian; my head is intact. good evening, Newtie …

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Queen – Fat Bottomed Girls

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 10:47 PM

newtie – I know you don’t get the dead but this is hilarious

I need a woman ’bout twice my weight
A ton of fun who packs a gun with all her freight
Find her in a sideshow leave her in L.A.

kcewa on March 4, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Why do people continue to attribute the “He’s so smart, and so are his advisers” meme to this president? So many examples to refute that. So many.

BKeyser on March 4, 2014 at 10:52 PM

What ‘people’ are doing this? The dimwits in the media?

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 10:53 PM

I LOVE Dennis Miller! Your definitely the Beauty.

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:56 PM

The Obama administration is now being challenged, and not only in Crimea. Both friends and foes around the world (and in the United States) increasingly see a Georgia peanut farmer when they look towards the Oval Office.

Murphy9 on March 4, 2014 at 10:56 PM

MKH is a savvy and down to earth conservative. She is one of us…
OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Speak for yourself. MKH supports comprehensive immigration reform AKA amnesty.

MKH is a fun writer and her use of terms like “dude” adds a youthful vibe, but it takes a lot more than that to impress me.

I miss the passion and obvious dedication to the blog that we saw with Malkin.

bluegill on March 4, 2014 at 10:47 PM

OmahaConservative on March 4, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Bolshoi Ballerina

Bmore on March 4, 2014 at 10:41 PM

In Swan Lake, Odette jumps off a cliff.

Theadora on March 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Alien:

Sounds like a LizardPeopleVoter!:)
(snark)

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:54 PM

What a strange almost-on-topic reference you made.

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Heh. Well I’ve got a flame thrower, and Sig Weaver on my side.

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM

kcewa: Lol,…,I thought it was a real image, haha!:)

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:53 PM

It’s not? He’s watching the Oscars on his I-pad…

kcewa on March 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM

I’ve been to the Baltic. I don’t think they can deal with it again.

wolly4321 on March 4, 2014 at 10:58 PM

And off to the left is Baghdad Bob. Look at what Biden is eating.

kcewa on March 4, 2014 at 10:47 PM

kcewa:Its better enlarged:)

https://twitter.com/CalebHowe/status/440937024652996608/photo/1/large

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Good evening, Newtie. Thanks for the song. Here’s one for you…
A band with an utterly unmistakable sound

Doc Holliday on March 4, 2014 at 10:59 PM

I’m here! my kittehs are cwazy!!!!

ladyingray on March 4, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Doc Holliday on March 4, 2014 at 10:59 PM

I like that song.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 4, 2014 at 11:00 PM

I’m here! my kittehs are cwazy!!!!

ladyingray on March 4, 2014 at 11:00 PM

No they ain’t.

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:01 PM

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:59 PM

His shoes are on the wrong feet…

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 11:01 PM

ladyingray on March 4, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Sasha’s curled up behind me on my chair.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 4, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Sasha’s curled up behind me on my chair.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 4, 2014 at 11:01 PM

What about Sheldon? He should be yowling.

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Doc Holliday on March 4, 2014 at 10:59 PM

I like that song.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 4, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Do not mock Happy Fun Bee Gees!

Doc Holliday on March 4, 2014 at 11:03 PM

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:54 PM

What a strange almost-on-topic reference you made.

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Alien:Bingo:——:0

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Doc Holliday on March 4, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Doc! You remembered! :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 11:03 PM

No they ain’t.

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:01 PM

They ARE!!!!!

ladyingray on March 4, 2014 at 11:05 PM

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:59 PM

His shoes are on the wrong feet…

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Newtie and the Beauty: Dang it,..that went over my head like a
F-14 Super Tomcat, in full after-burner:–:)

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Shush! He’s laying on the floor.
I’m gonna go play a few rounds of Pet Rescue Saga-and then shut down my FB page for Lent.
I’m sending you a message too.
BRB.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Bolshoi Ballerina

Bmore on March 4, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Superb. You’re as good as AP, really.

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM

I’m sending you a message too.
BRB.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM

K.

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:07 PM

“Putin is the wolf of Russia; obama is the rabbit bunny of the USA” — Ralph Peters (paraphrased)

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Atlanta Rhythm Section

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 11:07 PM

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 10:59 PM

The whole thing was photoshopped by CalebHowe. There are all kinds of goodies in it.

Barred on March 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Atlanta Rhythm Section

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 11:07 PM

There’s a song by ARS specifically for Alien.

Perhaps you or Doc or New Tie should find it.

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM

What a strange almost-on-topic reference you made.

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Alien:Bingo:——:0

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 11:03 PM

No one ever courts the reptilian vote.

I’m beginning to feel like an oppressed minority.

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM

I’m beginning to feel like an oppressed minority.

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM

That’s what you get for being so cold blooded.

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM

*sigh!* I love this place… :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 11:09 PM

In Swan Lake, Odette jumps off a cliff.

Theadora on March 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Very much enjoyed seeing the Bolshoi Ballet company perform Swan Lake a few years back. Excellent!

Bmore on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

A band with an utterly unmistakable sound

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM

I’ve got that album on VINYL!

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

I was thinking about getting a cat, but then I saw other people talking about their cats.

I’m not worried about owning a cat. I’m worried about devolving into talking about my cat.

It seems like an early symptom of dymentia.

wolly4321 on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

*sigh!* I love this place… :-D

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 11:09 PMThis place seems to love you.

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Sasha’s curled up behind me on my chair.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 4, 2014 at 11:01 PM

What about Sheldon? He should be yowling.

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Hush up, Lanceman!
Bye, Twerp! Talk to you on the other side, girl friend! :D

ladyingray on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

I’m here! my kittehs are cwazy!!!!

ladyingray on March 4, 2014 at 11:00 PM

ladyingray:)
==================

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 4h

If you cross a meerkat and a kitty… pic.twitter.com/QBNAeOIv20

https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/440996368933744640/photo/1/large

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

OOPS.

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM

“Doraville” comes to mind…

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

There’s a song by ARS specifically for Alien.

Perhaps you or Doc or New Tie should find it.

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM

what you thinkin of, I know most all of their stuff.

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 11:11 PM

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

I miss vinyl.

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:11 PM

There’s a song by ARS specifically for Alien.

Perhaps you or Doc or New Tie should find it.

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Someone posted it the other night.

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Alien, haha, of course

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Swan Lake Just Lovely.

Bmore on March 4, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Thank You Schadenfreude. ; )

Bmore on March 4, 2014 at 11:13 PM

I miss vinyl.

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Back when I was a DJ for my hometown AM station …

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Someone posted it the other night.

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Oh! :D

Lanceman on March 4, 2014 at 11:13 PM

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 11:03 PM

No one ever courts the reptilian vote.

I’m beginning to feel like an oppressed minority.

Alien on March 4, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Alien: I hear Hopey, uses LizardPeople as appetizers,
before the canine main course!!:)
(sarc)

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 11:13 PM

I miss vinyl.

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Only the nostalgia part. MP# can’t be beat for portability, CD for perfection. I do still have my ruby needle turntable though!

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 11:14 PM

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

See what I mean? ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 11:14 PM

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 11:10 PM

I miss vinyl.

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Nothing quite as good as vinyl, with all the crackles and everything that goes with it.

onesheep on March 4, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Champagne Jam

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Looks like Michelle, the Girls and Her Mom need another vacay

WASHINGTON — First lady Michelle Obama will travel to China this month with her daughters, Malia and Sasha, and her mother, Marian Robinson, for a trip built on the theme of education, her office announced Monday.

kcewa on March 4, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Alien: I hear Hopey, uses LizardPeople as appetizers,
before the canine main course!!:)
(sarc)

canopfor on March 4, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Leg of Dog is a good meal!

captnjoe on March 4, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Nothing quite as good as vinyl, with all the crackles and everything that goes with it.

onesheep on March 4, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Character. You learned where the cracles were. Became part of the music. Ah…Good times.

KCB on March 4, 2014 at 11:15 PM

*sigh!* I love this place… :-D Newtie and the Beauty on March 4, 2014 at 11:09

In my real life, I’m surrounded by idjuts.

It’s refreshing to read wit. That’s why I like it.

wolly4321 on March 4, 2014 at 11:16 PM

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