Quotes of the day

posted at 11:01 pm on March 3, 2014 by Allahpundit

“Create a democratic noose around Putin’s Russia,” urged Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina. “Revisit the missile defense shield,” suggested Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida. “Cancel Sochi,” argued Representative Mike Rogers, the Michigan Republican who leads the Intelligence Committee, referring to the Group of 8 summit meeting to be hosted by President Vladimir V. Putin. Kick “him out of the G-8” altogether, said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the Democratic whip.

The Russian occupation of Crimea has challenged Mr. Obama as has no other international crisis, and at its heart, the advice seemed to pose the same question: Is Mr. Obama tough enough to take on the former K.G.B. colonel in the Kremlin?

“It’s the most important, most difficult foreign-policy test of his presidency,” said R. Nicholas Burns, a career diplomat who became under secretary of state in the George W. Bush administration. “The stakes are very high for the president because he is the NATO leader. There’s no one in Europe who can approach him in power. He’s going to have to lead.”

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During his 90-minute phone conversation with President Obama on Saturday, Russian President Vladimir Putin hinted that Russian military intervention in Ukraine could go beyond Crimea, the region now under effectively occupied by Russia…

“Vladimir Putin stressed that in case of any further spread of violence to Eastern Ukraine and Crimea, Russia retains the right to protect its interests and the Russian-speaking population of those areas,” it said.

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Behind the scenes, Obama administration officials are preparing a series of possible battle plans for a potential economic assault on Russia in response to its invasion of Ukraine, an administration source close to the issue told The Daily Beast. Among the possible targets for these financial attacks: everyone from high-ranking Russian military officials to government leaders to top businessmen to Russian-speaking separatists in Ukraine. It’s all part of the work to prepare an executive order now under consideration at the Obama administration’s highest levels…

“The expectation that this is going to change in 24 hours, that’s not real world,” a third senior administration official said. “This is a serious situation that the Russians have created, it’s going to take serious efforts to unwind it, and we are absolutely seriously engaged in the effort to do that.”

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For all Obama’s hopes of creating an economic threat, there are relatively little trade or productive diplomatic ties between the United States and Russia. He’s largely dependent on being listened to by the world’s leaders, populations, businesses and international organizations from the European Union to the World Trade Organization…

Already, there’s a crack. The morning after Secretary of State John Kerry began floating the idea of kicking Putin out of the G-8, the German finance minister told a German news service Monday that he wasn’t sure this was a good idea.

Even small developments like that matter in Moscow, where the Russian leader is gauging his next move based on what kind of international response he thinks he’s likely to get…

“We’re now living in the era of the Putin Doctrine: Mother Russia has a right and an obligation to protect her children on the other side of international borders,” Talbott said. “We’re going to have to make very clear that it isn’t going to fly.”

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Putin’s inner circle no longer fear the European establishment. They once imagined them all in MI6. Now they know better. They have seen firsthand how obsequious Western aristocrats and corporate tycoons suddenly turn when their billions come into play. They now view them as hypocrites—the same European elites who help them hide their fortunes.

Once Russia’s powerful listened when European embassies issued statements denouncing the baroque corruption of Russian state companies. But no more. Because they know full well it is European bankers, businessmen and lawyers who do the dirty work for them placing the proceeds of corruption in hideouts from the Dutch Antilles to the British Virgin Islands…

When Russia sees Spain, Italy, Greece and Portugal outbidding each other to be Russia’s best business partner inside the EU (in return for no mention of human rights), they see America’s control over Europe slowly dissolving.

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At stake is not only the future of Ukraine, where the chaotically disorganized opposition to Yanukovich is waiting and wondering, but in the Middle East and throughout Asia, where many leaders have taken to questioning America’s commitment to the world. After pledging and then backing down from strikes against Syria last year, and staking his presidency on the withdrawal from America’s wars, Obama now has something to prove: He can take aggressive action. Whether he likes it or not, Putin and other world leaders appear to view him as indecisive and unwilling to take risks.

The only reasonable response, then, must be a powerful diplomatic thrust to isolate Putin and make immediately clear the costs of moving beyond Crimea into the rest of Ukraine. The risks for Obama in this are huge but he has no choice but to take them. Despite the fact that he needs the good will of Moscow in order to resolve the nuclear talks with Iran and peace negotiations over Syria, Obama must gamble that if he leads a decisive, united world response to the Crimean incursion, it will at once impress the Russian president and make Putin worry about his and Russia’s international image, a concern of the Kremlin’s that was so obvious during the just-concluded Sochi Olympics. Putin must be made to calculate that further recalcitrance not only over Ukraine but over Iran and Syria as well will only isolate him further.

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Much depends on how clearly the West conveys to the dictator in the Kremlin — a partially comical imitation of Mussolini and a more menacing reminder of Hitler — that NATO cannot be passive if war erupts in Europe. If Ukraine is crushed while the West is simply watching, the new freedom and security in bordering Romania, Poland and the three Baltic republics would also be threatened.

This does not mean that the West, or the United States, should threaten war. But in the first instance, Russia’s unilateral and menacing acts mean the West should promptly recognize the current government of Ukraine as legitimate. Uncertainty regarding its legal status could tempt Putin to repeat his Crimean charade. Second, the West should convey — privately at this stage, so as not to humiliate Russia — that the Ukrainian army can count on immediate and direct Western aid so as to enhance its defensive capabilities. There should be no doubt left in Putin’s mind that an attack on Ukraine would precipitate a prolonged and costly engagement, and Ukrainians should not fear that they would be left in the lurch.

Meanwhile, NATO forces, consistent with the organization’s contingency planning, should be put on alert. High readiness for some immediate airlift to Europe of U.S. airborne units would be politically and militarily meaningful. If the West wants to avoid a conflict, there should be no ambiguity in the Kremlin as to what might be preciptated by further adventurist use of force in the middle of Europe.

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In recent years, one of Russia’s greatest points of contention with the West has been over NATO’s plans to build of a missile shield in Europe. Russia has seen this as a major threat to its security, as the shield could wipe out Russia’s ability to launch nuclear missiles at the West. The long-standing nuclear deterrent that has protected Russia from Western attacks for generations – the Cold War doctrine of mutually assured destruction, or MAD – could thus be negated, Russia’s generals have warned. But after Russia decided to unilaterally invade its neighbor to the west this weekend, any remaining resistance to the missile shield project would be pushed aside by the renewed security concerns of various NATO members, primarily those in Eastern Europe and the Baltics. Whatever hopes Russia had of forestalling the construction of the missile shield through diplomacy are now most likely lost.

No less worrying for Putin would be the economic sanctions the West is preparing in answer to Russia’s intervention in Ukraine. Depending on their intensity, those could cut off the ability of Russian companies and businessmen in getting western loans and trading with most of the world’s largest economies. Putin’s allies could also find it a lot more difficult to send their children to study in the West or to keep their assets in Western banks, as they now almost universally do. All of that raises the risk for Putin of a split in his inner circle and, potentially, even of a palace coup. There is hardly anything more important to Russia’s political elite than the security of their foreign assets, certainly not their loyalty to a leader who seems willing to put all of that at risk.

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First, we don’t know how far he will go — and he probably doesn’t know either. Whether he will seek to break Ukraine in two or place a pro-Putin government in power may depend on the costs we impose. Whether he will in the coming months and years seek to destabilize the Baltic nations — which were also once part of the USSR — may depend on what we do now. It’s wrong to assume Putin has an elaborate plan for 2014 and 2015 that he will follow religiously, and logical to believe that Putin takes advantage of opportunities and weighs costs and benefits.

Second, there is more than Putin to think about. Tyrants in places from Tehran to Beijing will also be wondering about the cost of violating international law and threatening the peace and stability of neighbors. What will China do in neighboring seas, or Iran do in its tiny neighbor Bahrain, if actions like Putin’s go without a response?…

All this is important for American interests even if the Crimea situation is viewed as nearly irreversible. In fact, if we think Putin will keep the Crimea, it’s even more important that we make him pay as high a price as possible for his aggression.

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The 1980s are calling. They want to know if we want their foreign policy back…

If President Reagan could see what Russia is doing today, he would cock his head and say, “Well, there they go again.” And then he would deploy the whole panoply of resistance we used against Moscow in his day. He might start with the fact that Poland has strong ties to Ukraine’s pro-European majority and a direct interest in opposing Russia, making the Poles an obvious conduit for support to the new government in Kiev—both open and covert, and both economic and military. The Baltic states are also freaking out, given their own vulnerability to Russian aggression, and they can be counted on for extensive support. The urgent priority is to rapidly convert Western Ukraine into a “porcupine state”—one that may not be able to win a war with Russia outright, but can make such a war too painful to be appealing…

But we know what it looks like when American weakness and uncertainty allow an aggressive dictatorship and its allies to advance across the world. To avoid that outcome, we need to reverse course and do it fast.

If we don’t, pretty soon the 1970s will be calling.

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But then we should not be surprised if Russia, to compensate for economic losses, and for the loss of prestige, would sign a security agreement with Iran, and would supply Iran with S-300 or perhaps S-400 missiles. You should not be surprised if Russia would do considerably more to support President Assad. And most obviously, you should not be surprised if Russia would introduce a new element of global instability by signing a security agreement with Beijing, and there is a considerable interest in Beijing in strengthening security ties to Russia. So far, Putin has not wanted to pull in that direction, because he wants to have a western option, because he wants to have an American connection. He also does not want to be Beijing’s junior partner. But if you deprive him of the European-American connection, we may alter the geopolitical balance by putting Russia closer to China. There are already discussions in Russia about how they would stop supplying their gas to Europe. They have storage facilities. They can reduce the production of natural gas. You know, this would be a situation very, very painful to Russia. But that would be a situation which may be in many respects worse than anything we have witnessed during the Cold War. We would hear the echoes of 1914…

We are speaking very loudly. We are carrying a small stick. We are not really disciplining the Russians. We are not clearly defining what is important to us. We are acting like King Lear. We are issuing pathetic declarations which nobody is taking seriously. When I saw Secretary Kerry on television yesterday, I think it was a very sad performance. He was visibly angry. He was visibly defensive. He was accusing Russians using very harsh language of violations of international law. His description of the political process in Ukraine which led to this situation was incomplete and disingenuous at best. And then, after he said all of these things, he did not say, “Well, because of the Russians violating international law, threatening international security, that because of that the President of the United States is moving our naval assets in the Black Sea!” With the language he was using, that’s what you would expect him to do. But he was carrying a small stick.

Rhetoric is not policy and sounding tough doesn’t roll back Russia’s advances.

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If the EU and U.S. accept Russia’s land grab, they weaken the foundations of today’s international order, born out of the ashes of World War II and enshrined in the U.N. charter…

In the past, it was the U.S. that promoted and guaranteed the U.N.-order. In the role of a global quasi-sovereign, and faced with major threats, it sometimes violated this principle itself. But these were exceptions to the overall beneficial role the U.S. played in the promotion of a liberal democratic order.

Nowadays, however, Washington is diminishing its global footprint, with its taxpayers no longer willing to bear the biggest chunk of the burden to uphold world order.

The Kremlin has sensed a power vacuum and is stepping in.

***

“You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you,” supposedly said Lev Bronstein, as Leon Trotsky was known when he lived in the Bronx, before he made the Red Army, the parent of the forces Putin is wielding. Barack Obama, who involved the United States in seven months of war with Libya, perhaps because the project was untainted by U.S. national interest, is seeking diplomatic and especially economic leverage against Putin’s ramshackle nation in order to advance the enormous U.S. interest in depriving him of Ukraine.

Unless Obama finds such leverage, his precipitous slide into Jimmy Carter territory will continue. As an expression of disdain for a U.S. president, Putin’s seizure of Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula is symmetrical with Leonid Brezhnev’s invasion of Afghanistan late in Carter’s presidency. Large presidential failures cannot be hermetically sealed; they permeate a presidency. Putin’s contribution to the miniaturization of Obama comes in the context of Obama’s self-inflicted wound — Obamacare, which simultaneously shattered belief in his competence and honesty, and may linger as ruinously for Obama as the Iranian hostage crisis did for Carter.

This may be condign punishment for Obama’s foreign policy carelessness and for his wishful thinking about Putin as a “partner” and about a fiction (”the international community”) being consequential. It certainly is dangerous.

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Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Bish!

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Dog-Eater!

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Bmore!!

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:01 PM

RATSO!

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:01 PM

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:01 PM

I schooled you! Lolz! ; )

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:02 PM

I stand w/ the Ukrainian people!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Putin!

(He’s the new Bishop!)

PolAgnostic on March 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM

…how come Putin doesn’t look cross-eyed today?

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM

frank’s gonna’ really be pissed at this thread, so is hagfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:04 PM

…how come Putin doesn’t look cross-eyed today?

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Because Obama visited him…

when the lights were out…

Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Let me be clear, there are some that say, as I have always said, the future doesn’t belong to those who live in the past, so as we move forward, those of us at the table are offering hope and change, therefore we will lean forward.

Yes we can!

Murphy9 on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Tomorrow is Texas primary day. Texans-contrary to popular belief…the very locals do consider me to be one now-get out and VOTE!
Go Abbott!
Go Patrick!
Go Stovall!
Go May!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Cakking all Rude Buffoons and hagfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Cakking all Rude Buffoons and Fragfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

FIFY.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:06 PM

I stand w/ the Ukrainian people! annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Which ones?

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 11:06 PM

OOOooops!
Calling all Rude Buffoons and hagfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:06 PM

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 11:06 PM

The pro-democracy ones.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Yes you did! I trust you are well!

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 PM

But the oceans have stopped rising, right?

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 PM

“The stakes are very high for the president because he is the NATO leader. There’s no one in Europe who can approach him in power. He’s going to have to lead.”

Good luck with that. We are so screwed…

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Go Patrick!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Deval?

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 PM

USSR Mark II is on it’s way.

nobar on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 PM

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:06 PM

You did see what I did there-since Frank answered Cindy as gill.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Cakking all Rude Buffoons and hagfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Hairball?

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 PM
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No.
shut up.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Lourdes was coherent today. Maybe she will appear…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:09 PM

RWM, we know your back, please join the chat.

nobar on March 3, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Hairball?

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Breadball.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Let’s be frank.

bluegill on March 3, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Kiddo, how in the world can you appreciate comments that are totally void of substance and only criticize others? You’re better than that and at least you don’t bother to comment on things that don’t interest you instead of being annoyed at those who do. Geez, one thread out of a day that is free wheeling is hardly the end of the world.
Cindy Munford on March 3, 2014 at 5:23 PM

1) that is a misrepresentation of my comment history.

2) you lecture but fail to lecture the instigator(s). Very telling.

frank on March 3, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Murphy9 on March 3, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Cakking all Rude Buffoons and hagfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Releasing the krakkenfish?

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM

But the oceans have stopped rising, right?

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Just enough for scientists to get stuck…..

Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM

President Vladimir Putin’s blunt show of Russian power by sending troops into Crimea, presents the US president with challenges to his personal and political credibility.

He has none; never had any.

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 PM

I caught this on Instapundit. Watch this unhinged idiot. This is what the leftist colleges produce.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM

You did see what I did there-since Frank answered Cindy as gill.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Yep, sure did darlin’

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM

let me be clear, there are some that say, as I have always said, the future doesn’t belong to those who live in the past, so as we move forward, those of us at the table are offering hope and change, therefore we will lean forward. Yes we can! Murphy9 on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Together we thrive.

That one pisses me off here in Tucson.

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Yes you did! I trust you are well!

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 PM

I am thank you. You as well I hope. Funny thing is I have almost 0 bandwidth left. The betterhalf is doing a bunch of uploading, my neighbors service went out so he and his better half are on mine as well. Plus I have been keeping this window open 24/7. Lolz! Just damn lucky I reckon. ; )

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:12 PM

It is entertaining to watch leftists squirm on TV.

————-
“Putin wrestles bears…obama wears mom jeans” — Sarah Palin

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Let’s be frank.

Murphy9 on March 3, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Let’s not and say we were.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Dedicated to the mental giants of the zero administration:

My On-Topic Post du Noir

Newtie and the Beauty on March 3, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Good thing my kid ain’t a lefty.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Cakking all Rude Buffoons and hagfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Releasing the krakkenfish?

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM

.
One of the Life Lessons I drummed into my kids:

It is WRONG to pick on the handicapped …

… it’s FUN but it’s still WRONG!

PolAgnostic on March 3, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM

I wanted badly to use one of your comments in the tutorial. Alas I elected to go with the very first comment ever made on HA. Have a look see what you think .

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:15 PM

One of the Life Lessons I drummed into my kids:

It is WRONG to pick on the handicapped …

… it’s FUN but it’s still WRONG!

PolAgnostic on March 3, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Man, now I feel guilty…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:15 PM

been keeping this window open 24/7. Lolz! Just damn lucky I reckon. ; )

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Error 404 – Not Found

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:16 PM

S/b in quotes

President Vladimir Putin’s blunt show of Russian power by sending troops into Crimea, presents the US president with challenges to his personal and political credibility.

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:16 PM

just enough for scientists to get stuck….. Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Lol!

L&L bean gear put to the test.

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 11:16 PM

At stake is not only the future of Ukraine, where the chaotically disorganized opposition to Yanukovich is waiting and wondering, but in the Middle East and throughout Asia, where many leaders have taken to questioning America’s commitment to the world.
===============================================

RE:

[Ukraine’s Jewish community says he thinks only Reagan could save #Ukraine from Russian aggression]
———————————–

World News
03.03.14
Who’s Really Behind Ukraine’s Synagogue Attacks?
Surprisingly, Jewish leaders aren’t blaming the local neo-Nazis.
****************************************************************

For now, Zissels said he does not have much faith President Obama will do much to save his native Ukraine.

“I don’t believe Obama can do anything that will be useful or effective,” he said.

“But if he could do anything I would want him to end the Russian occupation of Ukraine.

But I think only Reagan among the American presidents is the one who could do that.”
(More…)
============

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/03/who-s-really-behind-ukraine-s-synagogue-attacks.html

canopfor on March 3, 2014 at 11:17 PM

So….should I re-decorate our blast shelter?

It needs it…….

Thanks Obama….

Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Cakking all Rude Buffoons and hagfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

You cakked?
.
I am here to answer the cakk.

Alien on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Let’s be frank.

Murphy9 on March 3, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Let’s not and say we were.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:12 PM

frank seems okay to me. I needed someone who had been here forever and didn’t know anything. There aren’t exactly a lot of those around to choose from if you know what I mean. I appreciated him helping me out.

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

You cakked?
.
I am here to answer the cakk.

Alien on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Heh…

Hew newtie, darlin’

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Remember when NBC drooled over Mother Russia during the Olympic games…

d1carter on March 3, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Brit Hume: Obama is a very slow learner…LOL.

d1carter on March 3, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Cakking all Rude Buffoons and hagfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Cakka – Takkan Ada

kcewa on March 3, 2014 at 11:19 PM

If President Reagan could see what Russia is doing today, he would cock his head and say, “Well, there they go again.” And then he would deploy the whole panoply of resistance we used against Moscow in his day.

KT McFarland ‏@ktmcfarland Mar 2
enuf w/ empty threats – know how we stop Putin’s expansion w/o using US mil? Crush his economy.

KT McFarland ‏@ktmcfarland Mar 2
my intv w/ @foxnews @HARRISFAULKNER on #Ukraine – we sd copy Reagan &use econ pressure on Russia’s oil/gas sector. http://t.co/Vz92En0p99

Flora Duh on March 3, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Nice tutorial, Bmore!

Newtie and the Beauty on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Error 404 – Not Found

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Yeah, I blame the better half. Here try this.

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Let’s be frank.
Murphy9 on March 3, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Let’s not and say we were.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:12 PM

frank seems okay to me. I needed someone who had been here forever and didn’t know anything. There aren’t exactly a lot of those around to choose from if you know what I mean. I appreciated him helping me out.

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

I agree. He seems like a good guy.

HillC Liver Spot on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM

frank seems okay to me. I needed someone who had been here forever and didn’t know anything. There aren’t exactly a lot of those around to choose from if you know what I mean. I appreciated him helping me out.

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

And that’s fine. I don’t tell anyone who they may and may not be friends with.

But like I said, first impressions are everything. You come in here and attack one of our people and you’ve become a piece of crap from then on out.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Yeah, I blame the better half. Here try this.

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM

She must be special…

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Flora Duh on March 3, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Flora, I want to link your video tutorial to the print version I’m doing. Is that okay? I do have one reservation about doing so. I will share that with you via tweety at some point. ; )

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:22 PM

the pro-democracy ones. annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Be careful with that word, democracy.

It don’t mean the same thing to different folks.

I think many believe it is quite evil.

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Cakking all Rude Buffoons and hagfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

You cakked?
.
I am here to answer the cakk.

Alien on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Clash – London Cakking

Newtie and the Beauty on March 3, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

I agree. He seems like a good guy.

HillC Liver Spot on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM

really:

bluegill on March 3, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Kiddo, how in the world can you appreciate comments that are totally void of substance and only criticize others? You’re better than that and at least you don’t bother to comment on things that don’t interest you instead of being annoyed at those who do. Geez, one thread out of a day that is free wheeling is hardly the end of the world.
Cindy Munford on March 3, 2014 at 5:23 PM

1) that is a misrepresentation of my comment history.

2) you lecture but fail to lecture the instigator(s). Very telling.

frank on March 3, 2014 at 5:51 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Cakking all Rude Buffoons and hagfish…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM

I hear, but I do not understand….

Doc Holliday on March 3, 2014 at 11:23 PM

ALT, you could have just asked me directly rather than trying to hide on your wall. The answer is: Never. Even I, who was born and raised here, who has ancestors whose blood was spilled bringing forth the Republic, who has ancestors who predate the Conquistadors, know better than to ever say that Texas is “mine”. You say how much you love the freedom here, and yet, even though you desire the state of freedom, you cannot grasp the concept of freedom, or you would never ever claim that Texas was something to be possessed. Traditionally, a Texan is someone born in this state. You can only claim to have been blessed enough to live here. Not my rules. And seriously, never try to claim Texas as “your” state, it’s highly offensive and carpet baggerish. Hopes this helps. I’m not really trying to rag on you, and lord knows I don’t begrudge you a little Texas pride, but you may want to do a little more research before trying to walk and talk like a native.

To the rest of you guys, sorry for the interruption, but ALT likes to block people on FB and then talk trash.

That being said, Abbott has the nomination locked up. The best we can hope for is that Cornyn and Dewhurst are thrown into a runoff.

NativeTexan on March 3, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Will Sophie come in tonight?

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Thank you. I hope folks will find it helpful. I will finish it tomorrow. ; )

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Confession: I’m in league with an “old broad” who has “reinforcements,” known as “shrews” and our skulduggery knows no bounds.

Now the aforementioned ladies have a “backstory” which I do notknow.

frank on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Murphy9 on March 3, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Why are you picking on me?? I mean, err, I am not bluegill! I’m Bishop!!

NotCoach on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 11:22 PM

I hope your day appears brighter, Wolly. Prayers still heading your way.

Newtie and the Beauty on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Yeah, I blame the better half. Here try this.

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Very Cool!

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Officially good evening, everybody. The house is rockin’ tonight — how about a little Stevie Ray Vaughan? gone but not forgotten …

Alien on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Doc Holliday on March 3, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Right on cue, Doc. The batsignal may be off-kilter here in Omaha, but ya’ still saw it…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

To the rest of you guys, sorry for the interruption, but ALT likes to block people on FB and then talk trash.

That being said, Abbott has the nomination locked up. The best we can hope for is that Cornyn and Dewhurst are thrown into a runoff.

NativeTexan on March 3, 2014 at 11:23 PM

We do like our Antwerp. But we can like you as well.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:25 PM

I agree. He seems like a good guy.

HillC Liver Spot on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Make no mistake. Read what I said again. I didn’t refer to him as a good guy. He has pissed off a lot of people here. That is between him and them. I don’t manage other peoples affairs if I can at all help it. I want no one managing mine either.

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Why aren’t we hearing more about Obama’s “flexibility” comment? Obviously he’s doing not a dang thing about Putin, he accidentally told us so!

Jackalope on March 3, 2014 at 11:26 PM

She must be special…

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Lolz! Yes that too. Lolz! You have no idea. ; )

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Why are you picking on me?? I mean, err, I am not bluegill! I’m Bishop!!

NotCoach on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Coasters – Charlie Brown :P

Newtie and the Beauty on March 3, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Good thing Obama left Poland without missile defense.

Murphy9 on March 3, 2014 at 11:27 PM

We go back into Political Time:
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A Cautious Russia Praises Obama Move

Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, September 18, 2009
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HELSINKI, Sept. 17 — Russia expressed cautious approval of President Obama’s decision Thursday to overhaul U.S. missile defense.

But reaction was mixed in Poland and the Czech Republic,

where some voiced relief

and others anger

that a contentious proposal to base the shield in their countries had been scrapped.

The Kremlin, which had condemned the original plan as a threat to national security,

welcomed the U.S. announcement and said it was waiting for details.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said the move

created “good conditions” for working with the United States on joint defenses

and praised Obama’s “responsible attitude.”

“Naturally, we will have to conduct substantial, expert consultations, and of course, our country is ready for this,” Medvedev said. “We will work together to develop effective measures against the risks of missile proliferation, measures that take into account the interests and concerns of all sides and ensure equal security for all countries in European territory.”
(More…..)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/17/AR2009091704290.html

canopfor on March 3, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Yeah, B. frank seems like a good guy all right. Seems like a piece of crap if you ask me. Same old monotonous hagfish crap every post it seems.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Confession: I’m in league with an “old broad” who has “reinforcements,” known as “shrews” and our skulduggery knows no bounds.

Now the aforementioned ladies have a “backstory” which I do notknow.

frank on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Then why post your foolish gibberish?

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Michelle Obama to the peasants:

Let Them Eat Cakk!

kcewa on March 3, 2014 at 11:28 PM

I didn’t refer to him as a good guy. He has pissed off a lot of people here.
Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Sorry. I read you wrong as well.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Ukrainian political crisis
7m
Photo: Morning travelers at the Simferopol airport in the Ukraine after conflicting ‘ultimatum’ reports. Russian commandos continue to surround airport’s main building – Instagram’s herodotus34
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http://instagram.com/p/lG0fr1LvkS/#

canopfor on March 3, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

I agree. He seems like a good guy.

HillC Liver Spot on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM

really:

bluegill on March 3, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Kiddo, how in the world can you appreciate comments that are totally void of substance and only criticize others? You’re better than that and at least you don’t bother to comment on things that don’t interest you instead of being annoyed at those who do. Geez, one thread out of a day that is free wheeling is hardly the end of the world.
Cindy Munford on March 3, 2014 at 5:23 PM

1) that is a misrepresentation of my comment history.

2) you lecture but fail to lecture the instigator(s). Very telling.

frank on March 3, 2014 at 5:51 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 3, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Really. He has been attacked as a noob since he came in and questioned what goes on in QOTD. His comment history has been questioned. What hasn’t been is the group think in here. It’s SSDD.

HillC Liver Spot on March 3, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Wow, April 2006…had no clue of the site…long time ago that…

You did a good job with the instructions. Must really bug you :)

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Very Cool!

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Watch em during the day. Excellent fun. I loaded it full view on the iPad, put it down on the floor. The cat freaks out over it. Funny!!!

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Like or don’t like, it’s no skin off my nose. Just wanted to get that off my chest.

NativeTexan on March 3, 2014 at 11:30 PM

I needed someone who had been here forever and didn’t know anything.

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Yeah, how does that happen?

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Michelle Obama to the peasants:

Let Them me Eat Cakk and let THEM eat lettuce from my super-duper awesome organic White House garden.

kcewa on March 3, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Jackalope on March 3, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Confession: I’m in league with an “old broad” who has “reinforcements,” known as “shrews” and our skulduggery knows no bounds.

Now the aforementioned ladies have a “backstory” which I do notknow.

frank on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Well, if you know what’s good for you, you will refer to
NativeTexan as Maam.

ToddPA on March 3, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Like or don’t like, it’s no skin off my nose. Just wanted to get that off my chest.

NativeTexan on March 3, 2014 at 11:30 PM

And that’s fine. You did.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 11:31 PM

frank on March 3, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Hey azzwipe…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Tbh another put it far better than I ever could:

frankie. Nobody here gives two shits what you think. That freakin’ old broad was actually worse than you. Coming in here making one attack per night until her ‘reinforcements’ came around.
Bottom line is this: First impressions are everything. I find it cute you yapping about this supposed ‘tribalism’. Yet I do not seem to recall Newtie, Doc Holiday, catnipjoe, oscarwilde or any one of the newbies being denied ‘entry into the cabal’.
You are simply a piece of crap who immediately started running his mouth in a negative fashion.
And unless you happen to be a husband to one of the shrews, you really need to shut your yap because you don’t know the backstory.
It’s obvious to me that, in addition to being technically illiterate you are basically incapable of playing nice to others. If all you intend to be is a disruptive influence, do us all a favor and get the hell out now.
Allah has been informed of the story (not by me, but by others)and I suspect he’s gonna keep an eye out, which he shouldn’t have to do. But your type makes it necessary.
If I have to guess, you’ll hang around just to see what you can get away with and if you get banned? Meh. No skin off your nose, right? I mean, that’s just the type of ‘person’ you are. I just hope nobody that gets along well with the folks in here have to pay the price for you to get your kicks, boy.
Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 1:06 PM

frank on March 3, 2014 at 11:32 PM

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