Obama to Putin: You’re on the wrong side of history, buddy

posted at 4:01 pm on March 3, 2014 by Allahpundit

I can’t tell if he has something specific in mind in saying this, i.e. that post-1989 eastern European history points in one direction and Russian revanchism points in another, or if it’s just a phrase that pops mindlessly to his lips when he’s at pains to condemn something, as it seems to do for lots of progressives. (Spread some cheer by reminding a liberal friend today that he’s on the wrong side of history when it comes to gun control.) Russia rolling over its neighbors to demonstrate its strength is history, isn’t it? Until the day comes that either (a) Russia no longer needs a warm-water port or (b) Ukraine and the EU are willing and able to go toe to toe with the Russian army, nukes or no nukes, then Russian domination of its western borders seems like an unfortunate historical fact. For what it’s worth, China seems to disagree with O’s assessment. Go figure that the Chinese see the historical virtue in a nation reclaiming land inhabited by its ethnic descendants.

Obama says he’s working on sanctions and diplomatic measures to “isolate” Russia. Will that stop Putin?

[T]he Russian president is betting that any sanctions would be relatively short-lived. Pushing Putin too far could be dangerous. Many European nations haven’t forgotten about their deep economic ties to Russia, including their dependence on its crude oil and natural-gas exports. For western Europe, implementing serious economic sanctions would be unwise, as Russia could retaliate by cutting off the gas pipelines that run through Ukraine to Europe. And U.S. sanctions would barely make a dent in the Russian economy: Russia accounts for less than 2 percent of American trade.

So far, Western Europe is sidestepping sanctions. The European Union and the governments of Germany and France have pushed for mediation between Moscow and Kiev, not sanctions. The organization’s emergency meeting on Monday is “expected to result in a strongly worded statement of condemnation, but no immediate punitive measures,” according to the EurActive Network, which reports E.U. policy news. Any action by the United Nations is unlikely, thanks to Russia’s veto power as a permanent member of the Security Council.

Don’t expect the EU, which has to live with Russia geographically and economically, to do much. Sources tell BuzzFeed there may be visa bans on Russian officials in charge of the Crimean invasion but nothing serious by way of trade sanctions or freezing accounts. Which raises the question: If the EU isn’t willing to punish the Kremlin for disrupting relations with one of its own would-be member states, why would the United States go to the mat on this?

Meanwhile, Putin can reply to O by wondering which side history is on in Afghanistan:

Meanwhile, there’s also the problem of Afghanistan — the “real war,” as Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry used to describe it. Now they want to disengage, and the Ukraine crisis creates a very uncomfortable problem: The U.S. needs Moscow’s cooperation as it withdraws the more than 33,000 troops left in Afghanistan because one of its main withdrawal routes runs through Russia.

The Pentagon began developing a supply route from Afghanistan through Central Asia and Russia because of frequent disruptions on the main routes through Pakistan, including a seven-month closure in 2011-12 stemming from the deaths of 24 Pakistani troops in a NATO air raid. A three-month blockade by a provincial government in Pakistan’s northwest in protest over the U.S. drone strike policy only ended Thursday after a court ordered it stopped.

Russia has allowed NATO to develop a transit hub at a base in Ulyanovsk to move cargo by air, road and train from Afghanistan through the country to its northern ports. At least a third of the cargo coming out of Afghanistan is expected to move by that route — if Moscow doesn’t shut it down.

Here’s the vid. Maybe, if the ruble continues to get pounded, Putin would be willing to be more accommodating on Syria in exchange for the U.S. lightening up on Ukraine. Assuming, that is, that Syria’s still a priority. As noted in the excerpt above on sanctions, our attention span for these international flashpoints is short and seemingly getting shorter. Exit question: Why is Obama intent on punishing Russia for an “uncontested arrival”?


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Israel News ‏@IsraelNewsNow 2h

#BreakingNews Ukraine says Russia deployed 16,000 new troops to Crimea http://dlvr.it/53jKWK

davidk on March 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Obama is on the wrong side of the mirror.

MrX on March 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM

At least the imbecile is starting to show some gray hair from worrying about something. America going down the tubes wasn’t enough to do it, but his legacy was.

Worst president in US History. Bar none.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Middle East News ‏@MiddleEast_BRK 4h

#BreakingNews Russian army trucks with loudspeakers drive through #Armjansnk, claiming, town will be “front zone” from 5am tomorrow morning.

davidk on March 3, 2014 at 8:28 PM

The Crimean problem is hard to understand without long background discussion, but this is what happened:
Putin saw the political collapse of Ukraine as a legitimate national security threat because: Russian military dogma is that Black Sea Hegemony is so necessary for Russian national security that Russia must have Black Sea Hegemony or go to war to get it. And they have, with comprehensive alacrity that suggests mature military planing.

Once Russia has gone to all the trouble to reacquire Crimea (the key to the Black Sea) they may well take other things too. You may or may not agree that Putin is justified by Russian history, but it is nonetheless happening before your eyes. Putin is just following Sun Tzu’s mandate for defensible borders. To Obama Sun Tzu might as well be a grocer in Chicago that he organized the community to boycott.

Russia has waged a war of aggression and will get what she wants because Obama wants that signing ceremony Meme so bad. This is not a crisis for anybody but Ukraine, Putin will offer Obama a treaty confirming all of Russia’s gains, and Obama will rush to sign it, and Putin and Obama will share Nobel Peace Prizes presented at the televised ceremony, but the treaty will never be ratified in the Senate. Obama won’t care, just think of it: Two Nobel Peace Prizes.

And if China takes Taiwan, another treaty and another Peace Prize :-)

ShadrachSmith on March 3, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Thanks all you moron liberals and you lazy a** republicans that didn’t go out to vote against this communist, America hater……. you morons, this is ALL YOUR FAULT!

ultracon on March 3, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Obama to Putin: You’re on the wrong side of history, buddy

Says the man working to “fundamentally transform” the United States into a third world hellhole.

bw222 on March 3, 2014 at 8:30 PM

Hey! I can see the new website; Ukrainecare.gov , with hackable nuclear launch codes.

percysunshine on March 3, 2014 at 8:33 PM

oba-mao is simply a dipsh*t community organizer, unable to manage a snow cone stand, much less the USA.

ultracon on March 3, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Middle East News ‏@MiddleEast_BRK 8h

#BreakingNews An officer onboard the anti submarine vessel Ternopil confirms the ultimatum,issued to his ship and expects attack by 6pm cet.

davidk on March 3, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach’s national campaign against illegal immigration suffered setbacks Monday when the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear cases on two cities’ ordinances that sought to require proof of citizenship to rent housing.

Kobach had assisted in the writing and legal defenses of laws passed by the Dallas suburb of Farmers Branch, Texas, and the Pennsylvania coal country town of Hazleton, about 80 miles northeast of the state capital of Harrisburg.

http://www.kansas.com/2014/03/03/3323532/kobachs-drive-against-illegal.html

davidk on March 3, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Japan, like Europe, has depended on us for their defense while they spent their money on socialism. They are probably rethinking that position right about now. Japan could be nuclear armed very quickly if the don’t already have nukes.

Kaffa on March 3, 2014 at 7:31 PM

You just cannot make a LIbEral understand that. It’s impossible.

Evidently, it harshes their mellow.

98ZJUSMC on March 3, 2014 at 8:36 PM

That would be impressive Barry if I thought you knew jack about history.

steveracer on March 3, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Russia has waged a war of aggression and will get what she wants because Obama wants that signing ceremony Meme so bad. This is not a crisis for anybody but Ukraine, Putin will offer Obama a treaty confirming all of Russia’s gains, and Obama will rush to sign it, and Putin and Obama will share Nobel Peace Prizes presented at the televised ceremony, but the treaty will never be ratified in the Senate. Obama won’t care, just think of it: Two Nobel Peace Prizes.

And if China takes Taiwan, another treaty and another Peace Prize :-)

ShadrachSmith on March 3, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Peace in our time!

-Neville Hussien Obamalin

98ZJUSMC on March 3, 2014 at 8:40 PM

No doubt Putin will spend many sleepless nights knowing he’s on the wrong side of history, besides being unable to control his laughter over obama’s ineptitude.

lel2007 on March 3, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Middle East News ‏@MiddleEast_BRK 8h

#BreakingNews An officer onboard the anti submarine vessel Ternopil confirms the ultimatum,issued to his ship and expects attack by 6pm cet.

davidk on March 3, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Any of these reports backed up in european sources?

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Buddy ? obama’s sooooo cool.

lel2007 on March 3, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Thanks all you moron liberals and you lazy a** republicans that didn’t go out to vote against this communist, America hater……. you morons, this is ALL YOUR FAULT!

ultracon on March 3, 2014 at 8:29 PM

As someone who *did* vote for Romney even though I didn’t want to, I’ll say it’s not *all* the fault of the people you describe.

It’s also considerably the fault of the GOP who can’t bring themselves to find a candidate that people will vote *for* in mass quantities, rather than just throwing up any old squishy piece of crap with the expectation that people will vote *against* the Democrat.

I’ve been voting *against* the Democrat most of my adult life – not going to do it any more. GOP gets my vote *when* and *if* they put up candidates that are worth voting *for*, that won’t actively work with the Democrats to continue destroying the country, etc. And at this point, they’re going to have to do that for awhile to get my vote back – kind of in “I’ll believe when I’ve seen it in *action* for awhile” mode right now. Tired of being stabbed in the back by my own team.

Midas on March 3, 2014 at 8:47 PM

“As threat of Russian military intervention in Ukraine mounts NATO allies will hold on Tuesday another round of emergency talks after Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski pushed on Monday for convening the North Atlantic Council in relation to the situation in Crimea.

Poland wants NATO to urgently convene the North Atlantic Council under Article 4 of the Washington Treaty allowing any ally to consult with the others if it feels its security, territorial integrity or independence are under threat, the president said after a meeting of the National Security Council (RBN) which brings together Poland’s prime minister, foreign and defense ministers and leaders of opposition parties…

US President Obama has repeated his pledge to protect Poland from Russian aggression, Komorowski told reporters referring to
a Sunday phone conversation of both leaders.

“The U.S. president confirmed the security guarantees for Poland. The two leaders condemned the escalation of Russian actions in the Black Sea Crimean peninsula,” presidential minister Jaromir Sokolowski told PAP Polish news agency.

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said over the weekend that the Russia-Ukraine conflict is a threat to Poland which has borders with Russia and Ukraine.

“Poland must approach with utter seriousness the decision of the Federation Council on the motion by President Vladimir Putin to allow a military intervention in all of Ukraine’s territory, which potentially means also near the Polish border,” President Komorowski said.

Poland’s defense ministry said Monday there is no reason for the Polish army to react to the situation in Ukraine, as local media reported troop movements within Poland because of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.

The ministry denied the reports, saying troops were moving as part of routine training exercises…”

http://www.warsawvoice.pl/WVpage/pages/article.php/27526/news

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 8:53 PM

“Ostrava – The Czech Republic cannot halt its trade relations with Russia over the Ukrainian developments, PM Bohuslav Sobotka told reporters today in reaction to two ministers saying they cannot imagine a Russian firm completing the Czech nuclear power plant Temelin…”

http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/news/zpravy/czechs-cannot-halt-trade-with-russia-over-ukrainian-events-pm/1050356

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Come Lord Jesus…..

crosshugger on March 3, 2014 at 9:17 PM

The world is about to find out just how worthless NATO really is.

BobMbx on March 3, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Does the Obama administration really want to start an “economic war” with Russia and potentially against China as well?

Considering how much money we owe them, and considering the fact that we desperately need them to continue to use the petrodollar, we stand to lose far more than they do.

This is one of the reasons why I have always insisted that the national debt was a national security issue. By going into so much debt, we have given other nations such as Russia and China a tremendous amount of leverage over us.

Unfortunately, the debtmongers in Washington D.C. never have listened to common sense.

Murphy9 on March 3, 2014 at 9:34 PM

hawkdriver on March 3, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Worse than Carter.

SparkPlug on March 3, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Isn’t Zero hour in like a coupla minutes?

BallisticBob on March 3, 2014 at 9:59 PM

It’s 10pm.

Do you know where your president is?

Probably filling out the 2014 NCAA tournament brackets.

sentinelrules on March 3, 2014 at 10:00 PM

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March 4 at 5 a.m.: Ukraine’s deadline for surrender or more psychological Kremlin warfare? #Ukraine #kyivpost #Russia http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/march-4-at-5-am-ukraines-deadline-for-surrender-or-more-psychological-kremlin-warfare-338266.html
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canopfor on March 3, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Revisionist history aside, there will come a day that Obama will be found to have been on the wrong side of history as well.

Willys on March 3, 2014 at 10:32 PM

It is cute that a Marxist of the American-Useful Idiot variety is using Marxist code words against an actual Soviet style totalitarian.

Putin’s all like, “uh, you realize that scientific approach to history mumbo jumbo was intellectual window dressing, right?”

joeindc44 on March 3, 2014 at 10:43 PM

It’s 10pm.

Do you know where your president is?

Probably filling out the 2014 NCAA tournament brackets.

He’s in bed, Michelle is elsewhere.

LeftCoastRight on March 3, 2014 at 10:58 PM

“wrong side of history” is Obama’s diplomacy-speak for “Putin acted stupidly”.

Hey, Obama, let’s have a “national conversation” about surrendering to aggressors! Don’t we always have a “national conversation” when you are evidently wrong?

virgo on March 3, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Exit question: Why is Obama intent on punishing Russia for an “uncontested arrival”?

I am sure he couldn’t tell you.

Alopen on March 3, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Everyone who disagrees with Obama is on the wrong side of history…have you noticed?

OxyCon on March 3, 2014 at 11:45 PM

You would think all that golf would have strengthened the man child’s wrists.

WryTrvllr on March 4, 2014 at 12:01 AM

He’s in bed, Michelle is elsewhere.

LeftCoastRight on March 3, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Really? Is the kitchen accessible from Lincoln’s bedroom??

WryTrvllr on March 4, 2014 at 12:03 AM

How do you isolate such a powerful man who can pull the energy string on a eco-suicidal Europe while we sit and watch helplessly as we pay off our friends for creating faux green energy sources and continue to count on mid-east, and Venezuela oil while our dear leader nixes Canadian pipelines for votes?

Don L on March 4, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Japan, like Europe, has depended on us for their defense while they spent their money on socialism. They are probably rethinking that position right about now. Japan could be nuclear armed very quickly if the don’t already have nukes.

Kaffa on March 3, 2014 at 7:31 PM

You just cannot make a LIbEral understand that. It’s impossible.

Evidently, it harshes their mellow.

98ZJUSMC on March 3, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Don’t worry about the LIBErals. Plenty of dumb conservatives here don’t get it either, and never will. Plenty of dummies who don’t want to shoulder the ravages of Obamacare seem to be okay with shouldering a war in Eurasia that would cost at least a trillion.

FrankT on March 4, 2014 at 2:02 AM

20 years from now someone needs to write a book on Obama titles ” Wrong side of history” recapping just how misguided in all things this man was.

jhffmn on March 4, 2014 at 4:08 AM

Obama is the laughingstock of the world.

But I am finding harder and harder to laugh.

He’s the supreme knucklehead, all right.

It is what it is.

Sherman1864 on March 4, 2014 at 4:39 AM

Let’s see … removing tactical defense missiles from Poland, turning our back on the Syria, Iranian, Venezuelan and Iraqi people, spying on US citizens, as well as, our allies, Benghazi, Egypt, IRS, … who is on the wrong side of history? It ain’t Putin!
Putin is doing exactly what we on the right knew he would do if given the chance.

kregg on March 4, 2014 at 5:29 AM

The U.S. is as weak as it ever has been thanks to the current administration’s lack of will. Obama is a fool and we’ll pay a price for his foolishness. I’m waiting for the nukes.

(Wish I didn’t work in DC)….

zoyclem on March 4, 2014 at 5:31 AM

Barak “Neville Chamberlin” Obama did not learn from history. Neither about appeasement nor the repeated failures of socialism.

He speaks loudly and carries a toothpick.

ProfShadow on March 4, 2014 at 6:13 AM

or if it’s just a phrase that pops mindlessly to his lips when he’s at pains to condemn something

This.

But not entirely mindlessly. It is more of a knee-jerk reaction based on years of mental conditioning.

“Progressives” (also, more accurately, known as socialists) think their vision is the way of the future. Marx was also a philosopher of history and he believed history shows the future moves inexorably in the direction he described — a world-wide socialist government of The People.

farsighted on March 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM

Who gives a damn what Obama says. You can fix ignorance with education but STUPIDITY is forever.

tmgrant on March 4, 2014 at 7:07 AM

Guilt Trips? REALLY?! The Leader of the Greatest Nation in the Free World has been reduced to threatening to NOT go to a planning meeting for another meeting and trying to ‘Guiilt Trip’ Putin?!

The United states has slipped to a whole new low, and we are so $crewed!

easyt65 on March 4, 2014 at 7:12 AM

Why is it okay for Obama to be judge, jury and executioner with his drones?
Imagine if Putin used drones to target people in the Ukraine.

albill on March 4, 2014 at 7:16 AM

it’s just a phrase that pops mindlessly to his lips when he’s at pains to condemn something, as it seems to do for lots of progressives.

Dingdingding!

Gatsu on March 4, 2014 at 7:38 AM

Taken as a whole no one likes war, be they Democrat or Republican. With that said, Liberals in general do not like the military…..the old guns vs. butter debate. Also they lump the services; the Pentagon; the military industrial complex; and so on, into one big bucket. My liberal friends rarely know anyone who has served and even less that have seen combat……nor the makeup (by race) of the services. They have no idea of the sacrifice it takes to serve in the military. Truth is they really don’t care.

What it boils down to is that war and the military is all about the politics for my Liberal friends. Death of the troops, at best, is just part of the political game. They were not so much anti-war when President Bush was in office, they were anti-Bush and that trumps any thinking about the human side of war and the loss of life. Remove President Bush from the equation and you now can see first-hand how they really feel. Now, they will never admit the above and that is why their arguments over Iraq/Afgan go round and round in circles.

The way they feel about the deaths of our troops is the same no matter who is President. To put it another way, their concern (or lack of concern) of troop casualties is exactly the same under President Obama as it was under President Bush. The difference is the politics.

I politely pointed this out many times to my Liberal friends and most (but not all) just shrugged. Sad really.

Why am I always late to all the interesting threads?

HonestLib on March 4, 2014 at 7:51 AM

HonestLib on March 4, 2014 at 7:51 AM

I’m still not totally buying your liberal credentials, unless you mean “liberal” in the classic sense. You seem to be imbibed with what some would call “common sense.”

:)

USNCVN on March 4, 2014 at 8:05 AM

Thanks all you moron liberals and you lazy a** republicans that didn’t go out to vote against this communist, America hater……. you morons, this is ALL YOUR FAULT!

ultracon on March 3, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Totally agree….tired of the excuses. Mitt Romney was not “severely conservative” but he didn’t hate America or what to transform it into a socialist utopia!

Indianatime on March 4, 2014 at 8:26 AM

Don’t worry about the LIBErals. Plenty of dumb conservatives here don’t get it either, and never will. Plenty of dummies who don’t want to shoulder the ravages of Obamacare seem to be okay with shouldering a war in Eurasia that would cost at least a trillion.

FrankT on March 4, 2014 at 2:02 AM

Maintaining a credible deterrent in the maintenance of peace is the ultimate goal and only way to avoid a war. In the process of creating one of the longest periods of peace (barely), it allowed Europe to play with Socialism and the party has come to an end. You want it, you pay for it. Nobody, in their right mind, wants a war, but an unwillingness to backup the deterrent with will, makes it useless.

The simple fact remains that we footed the bill for Socialism for over 60 years. Now, if you take that to mean we Conservatives want war, well, try again.

Oh…..funding Obamacare not a power granted by the Constitution, I don’t care what Roberts said (It’s a tax). Funding National Defense is. The decisions to go to war have historically been left up to the adults. No longer, I suppose.

98ZJUSMC on March 4, 2014 at 10:43 AM

0 your on the wrong side of this pair.

Bmore on March 4, 2014 at 9:27 PM

I bet PUTIN did not get the memo

obama got a pen and a phone and he’s not afraid to use them.

sniffles1999 on March 5, 2014 at 2:42 PM

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