Carney on exchange accountability: Hey, California’s doing pretty well!

posted at 9:21 pm on March 3, 2014 by Mary Katharine Ham

The failures of Obamacare implementation have been so many and so varied that nearly lost in the coverage is the near-criminal (In Oregon, maybe literally criminal) amount of money spent on both federal and state exchanges that don’t work. Fox News’ Wendell Goler asks Jay Carney today about accountability for these failures and the amount of money, much of it federal, wasted on these projects. Carney claims to have no information about this, despite the fact it’s his job to have information about this, and suggests Goler call CMS. In reaching for something to fill the time, Carney sites California’s exchange, which could perhaps be characterized as the least dysfunctional of the state exchanges, but is no picnic.

The Free Beacon notes how very low this bar is. Do the Limbo Rock!

“California hit its target in the middle of February in terms of enrollees. So that’s one working pretty well, I guess,” Carney said.

Apparently Carney’s bar for “working pretty well” is incredibly low. Maybe Carney forgot California’s online exchange was shut down for five days last week due to software problems, or the lingering problems consumers encounter when trying to sign up for Covered California.

California has also faced problems enrolling enough Latinos. Latinos comprise 50% of the uninsured population in California, but only accounted for 21% of signups through mid-February.

Elsewhere in Great Moments in ObamaCare Success That Never Were, a new study suggests even Medicaid enrollments aren’t what the White House has claimed. This is because the White House is playing the same games with those numbers as private insurance enrollments— counting a determination you’re eligible for Medicaid enrollment as enrollment.

A new analysis of Medicaid enrollments is challenging the Obama administration’s account that nearly 10 million people are in the process of signing up for the program under ObamaCare.

Figures released Monday by consulting firm Avalere Health found that only 2.4 to 3.5 million people have newly registered for Medicaid since October under the healthcare law.

The disparity highlights the cloudiness of Medicaid numbers released by the administration, which counts those who have been “determined eligible” for the program rather than those who have actually signed up.

Some of the 8.9 million people counted by the administration were also eligible before the healthcare law expanded access to the program.


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Carney on exchange accountability: Hey, California’s doing pretty well!

The spokesboy’s mouth is getting wider…

I wonder why?

Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 9:22 PM

The failures of Obamacare implementation have been so many and so varied that nearly lost in the coverage is the near-criminal …

When the State robs, rapes, and/or murders you … it’s not criminal by definition …

ShainS on March 3, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Some of the 8.9 million people counted by the administration were also eligible before the healthcare law expanded access to the program.

And the other 40+ millions….?

This is how they sold OblamaCare to us…

Where are the rest?

Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Is there a site that has chronicled how often Carney says something like:

“I would defer you to…”
“I have no information of…”
“I have not seen that report”

gopsteve on March 3, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Seems like an accurate accounting would be the very least the GOPe could fight for.

Unless for some reason they don’t want us to know either.

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 9:36 PM

“Hey, California’s doing pretty well!”

Pfeh!

wutzupdak on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Shouldn’t be surprised — US is somewhere in the bottom half of countries for math and science scores…. Carney’s just one of many chuckleheads who can’t count past 5.

Bradky on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

You people will never give President Obama credit. You do realize, that even when you remove the Medicaid numbers, well over 2% of the nation has already enrolled. …all within only six months.

Admit it, you people – even in your wildest dreams – never suspected the President’s signature law would result in these kind of numbers.

Frank Lib on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Wow, it’s almost like everything Obama touches turns to $hit or was $hit right off the presses.

Imagine that. And the hit just keep coming.

BigWyo on March 3, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Admit it, you people – even in your wildest dreams – never suspected the President’s signature law would result in these kind of numbers.

Frank Lib on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

In my wildest dreams I never imagined just how badly Obama could dork up the country in six years.You do realize that most of the people signing up are those that need it the most NOT the millions of young people needed in order to subsidize it, don’t you?

Bradky on March 3, 2014 at 9:44 PM

ou people will never give President Obama credit. You do realize, that even when you remove the Medicaid numbers, well over 2% of the nation has already enrolled. …all within only six months. Admit it, you people –even in your wildest dreams –never suspected the President’s signature law would result in these kind of numbers. Frank Lib on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

A bargain at $7,000 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 9:44 PM

US is somewhere in the bottom half of countries for math and science scores…. Carney’s just one of many chuckleheads who can’t count past 5.

Bradky on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

On the other hand, I’d give us a bottom .5% on voter awareness.

BigWyo on March 3, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Bradky on March 3, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Snark, dude.

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 9:46 PM

You people will never give President Obama credit…..bla..bla

Frank Lib on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Obama will get full credit for what he has done..

Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 9:47 PM

you could also say 2% of the nation LOST
healthcare because of this boondoggle..

so….ZERO…..

success even BHO can count..!!

going2mars on March 3, 2014 at 9:50 PM

Admit it, you people – even in your wildest dreams – never suspected the President’s signature law would result in these kind of numbers.

Frank Lib on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

How much did Bishop pay for you to do your shtick?

nobar on March 3, 2014 at 9:51 PM

You people will never give President Obama credit. You do realize, that even when you remove the Medicaid numbers, well over 2% of the nation has already enrolled. …all within only six months.

Admit it, you people – even in your wildest dreams – never suspected the President’s signature law would result in these kind of numbers.

Frank Lib on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

In my wildest dreams I never imagined just how badly Obama could dork up the country in six years.You do realize that most of the people signing up are those that need it the most NOT the millions of young people needed in order to subsidize it, don’t you?

Bradky on March 3, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Hey you two idiots, MOST of the people signing up are simply flipping their non-Obamacare insurance from 2013 into Obamacare-compliant insurance for 2014, and paying a lot more to get less, because the government is forcing them to.

Report: Most Obamacare Enrollees ALREADY Had Insurance

slickwillie2001 on March 3, 2014 at 9:51 PM

My local news was touting that 8.9 mil as gospel this evening.Any LIV that was listening will believe it.

docflash on March 3, 2014 at 9:55 PM

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Charles Gaba ‏@charles_gaba 6m

The Graph, updated with full Feb. projections (1st time I’ve done that) http://acasignups.net/graph #ACASignups #Obamacare pic.twitter.com/OmRQGmRCDE
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https://twitter.com/charles_gaba/status/440680299425325057/photo/1/large

canopfor on March 3, 2014 at 9:58 PM

If Carney was Pinocchio, his nose would be reaching Andromeda about now.

hillbillyjim on March 3, 2014 at 9:59 PM

Sarc tags are needed again.

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 9:59 PM

Frank lib and Dr Zeke agree. Everything is going peachy…right on track to a UK style system:

The good news is you won’t have insurance companies to kick around much longer. The system is changing. As a result, insurance companies as they are now will be going away. Indeed, they are already evolving. For the next few years insurance companies will both continue to provide services to employers and, increasingly, compete against each other in the health insurance exchanges. In that role they will put together networks of physicians and hospitals and other services and set a premium. But because of health care reform, new actors will force insurance companies to evolve or become extinct. The accountable care organizations (ACOs) (which I discuss in Chapter 8 of my new book) and hospital systems will begin competing directly in the exchanges and for exclusive contracts with employers. These new organizations are delivery systems with networks of physicians and hospitals that provide comprehensive care. This health delivery structure is in its infancy. Today there are hundreds of these organizations being created and gaining experience within government-sponsored programs or getting contracts from private insurers. They are developing and testing ways to coordinate, standardize, and provide care more efficiently and at consistently higher quality standards. Over the next decade many of these ACOs and hospital systems will succeed at integrating all the components of care and provide efficient, coordinated care. They will have the physician and hospital networks. They will have standardized, guideline-driven care plans for most major conditions and procedures to increase efficiency. They will have figured out how to harness their electronic medical records to better identify patients who will become sick and how to intervene early as well as how to care for the well-identified chronically ill so as to reduce costs.

so we’ll have a hospital centric way of health…if you live in X, you’ll have a hospital and network to go to. Of course these will be like the beloved HMOs we used to have….where we had capitation and good stuff like that…except this will be better because everything will be geographically and demographically leveled

and don’t count on your local hospital having MRIs and good stuff like that

r keller on March 3, 2014 at 9:59 PM

What lb test is a fuschia necktie?

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 10:02 PM

A bargain at $7,000 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 9:44 PM

That would be 7 quadrillion.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 10:04 PM

Jeebus…. this like an Amos ‘Andy Twilight Zone… wit Barry as da Kingfish and Jay as Andy.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on March 3, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Lying liars lie. Film at eleven.

Freelancer on March 3, 2014 at 10:06 PM

You people will never give President Obama credit. You do realize, that even when you remove the Medicaid numbers, well over 2% of the nation has already enrolled. …all within only six months.

Admit it, you people – even in your wildest dreams – never suspected the President’s signature law would result in these kind of numbers.

Frank Lib on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

…that’s retarded sir!…
…the 2 % that qualify for medicare?

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2014 at 10:06 PM

wow how funny is it that WaPo gave 3 Pinocchio’s to the WaPo, is the free speech trope coming home to fruition?

smitty41 on March 3, 2014 at 10:07 PM

…that’s retarded sir!…
…the 2 % that qualify for medicare?

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Pretty sure Frank is screwing with us. Lotta folks on Bishop’s payroll…

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Carney claims to have no information about this, despite the fact it’s his job to have information about this

…Carney is starting… to swallow now!

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Pretty sure Frank is screwing with us. Lotta folks on Bishop’s payroll…

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Maybe so…

But this shitte is hitting right at home….

Sorry to Frank if I got testy….but I am one of those people that got cancelled…

Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Johnny Carson would have Doc and the band play “Tea for Two” and start dancing during moments like the one Jay Carney had.

jon1979 on March 3, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Carney on exchange accountability: Hey, California’s doing pretty well!

HEY MR DUMBASS CARNEY!

Let me tell you about the success we had last week. After one of our members, who bought her individual coverage off the California exchange spent 19 DAYS trying to get her prescribed medication filled, she turned to us to help. NOT EVEN HER DOCTOR could get her prescription filled. After 10 DAYS of tramping through your gummed up regulations, grinding the California healthcare system to a screeching trainwreck of a crash… we finally got Amy her medication. The California coverages off the exchanges are a F’ING DISASTER!

You sir are an ignorant, tool. A pathetic excuse of a man that lies to cover the lies of a SNAKE. Words cannot express the disdain I have for you right now.

Remember the ignorance on display for the “new” logo for the Smithsonian’s website a few years back? Remember their logo of three interlocked gears? Remember how we laughed because it represented a locked/jammed system that could not function?

…welcome to healthcare under Obama.

dominigan on March 3, 2014 at 10:13 PM

What is this “snark”? Seems we are having some difficulty recognizing it.

KCB on March 3, 2014 at 10:14 PM

FrankLib the mighty Fisherman.

CWchangedhisNicagain on March 3, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Sorry to Frank if I got testy….but I am one of those people that got cancelled…

Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 10:12 PM

We’re all in the same boat.

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 10:15 PM

maybe so… But this shitte is hitting right at home…. Sorry to Frank if I got testy….but I am one of those people that got cancelled… Electrongod on March 3, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Lost mine first open enrollment after this crap passed.

I feel for you. Been living it for a while now.

We get it.

wolly4321 on March 3, 2014 at 10:26 PM

Admit it, you people – even in your wildest dreams – never suspected the President’s signature law would result in these kind of numbers.

Frank Lib on March 3, 2014 at 9:39 PM

You are so right.

The stupid black child and the Obama Party screamed that by now, they would have 40 million people covered.

We knew Obama was a stupid black child who admitted that he was the smartest person in his entire administration, but never in our wildest dreams did we expect this galactic level of incompetence. Barack Obama has not only met our expectations of how much he could screw up, he’s absolutely blown it away.

northdallasthirty on March 3, 2014 at 10:26 PM

California has also faced problems enrolling enough Latinos. Latinos comprise 50% of the uninsured population in California, but only accounted for 21% of signups through mid-February.

and it should atay that way…probably the 30% who didn’t sign up are illegals anyways…

jimver on March 3, 2014 at 10:29 PM

and it should atay that way…probably the 30% who didn’t sign up are illegals anyways…

jimver on March 3, 2014 at 10:29 PM

You must have seen Drudge:

Oregon Exchange Accidentally Enrolls Illegal Aliens…

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM

If Carney was Pinocchio, his nose would be reaching Andromeda about now.

hillbillyjim on March 3, 2014 at 9:59 PM

hillbillyjim: That would stop the two Galaxy Collisions then, haha:)

canopfor on March 3, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Hi! I’m Jay Carney! I haven’t a freaking clue what I’m talking about. They give me talking points and shove me on stage. They give me talking points and shove me on stage. They give me talking………….

GarandFan on March 3, 2014 at 10:34 PM

dominigan on March 3, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Nice to see the cost controls are starting to work.

Kenosha Kid on March 3, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Hi! I’m Jay Carney! I haven’t a freaking clue what I’m talking about. They give me talking points and shove me on stage. They give me talking points and shove me on stage. They give me talking………….

GarandFan on March 3, 2014 at 10:34 PM

California exchange is sucking big time. Carney obviously has no problem coming out and sounding like an imbecile. He seems to love it.

onesheep on March 4, 2014 at 12:27 AM

There are knaves, there are fools, and then there is Jay Carney.

Another Drew on March 4, 2014 at 3:13 AM

Obama’s boy Sherman just can’t tell the truth, like his master.

sadatoni on March 4, 2014 at 7:38 AM

Love the picture of carney on the lead tugging at his collar looking forlorn. I just punched my computer screen.

crosshugger on March 4, 2014 at 8:02 AM

GOPSTEVE,

Carney’s other is “As everybody knows..” implying you are a dumbass for asking that question.

philoise65 on March 4, 2014 at 9:39 AM

You must have seen Drudge:

Oregon Exchange Accidentally Enrolls Illegal Aliens…

Lanceman on March 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM

“Accidentally?”

ncinca on March 4, 2014 at 10:35 AM