Breaking: Russian fleet delivers ultimatum to Ukrainian forces in Crimea to surrender … or else

posted at 10:35 am on March 3, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

At least that’s what Sky News is reporting based on reports from Interfax, although there hasn’t been any other headlines on this yet (Huffington Post UK also has this, but it appears to be from the same source) (Update: BBC also now reporting ultimatum). Ukrainian forces in Crimea have not opened hostilities on Russian occupiers, but they have also refused to surrender their bases on the peninsula. The Russian navy sent an ultimatum for a surrender, or “a real assault” will commence shortly:

The ultimatum, from the commander of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet Alexander Vitko, has a base in Crimea where Russian forces are now in control.

According to the agency, it reads: “If they do not surrender before 5am (3am GMT) tomorrow, a real assault will be started against units and divisions of the armed forces across Crimea.”

The Russians must be surprised that Ukraine has not fought back yet — and a little frustrated, too. In 2008, Vladimir Putin baited Georgia president Mikhail Saakashvili into military action as two provinces with large ethnic-Russian populations threatened to break away. Russia invaded Georgia on that pretext, and still control South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The new leaders of Ukraine clearly have Georgia on their mind as they insist that their mobilization is not intended for anything but defense of ground already controlled by Ukraine, and not a liberation of Crimea. Instead, they want the West to come to their aid politically and economically, rather than militarily:


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Over the past few days, highly-organized and heavily-armed troops believed to be Russians – but bearing no identifying patches – have encircled Ukrainian bases, demanding they surrender.

The deputy commander of a naval operations base in the Crimean capital Simferopol told ABC News on Sunday that Russian forces had twice asked he and his men to leave but so far they have refused. His orders were to stand firm, he said, adding that they have weapons and are ready to fight.

But there have been no clashes so far, Russia managing to take control of Crimea without firing a shot. The airports, parliament and other government buildings are under the control of the militias.

So far, Ukraine’s new government and the West have appeared powerless to counter Russia’s tactics. Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk insisted that Crimea remains Ukrainian territory despite the presence of Russian military.

“Any attempt of Russia to grab Crimea will have no success at all. Give us some time,” he said at a news conference with British Foreign Secretary William Hague, who is visiting Kiev.

“For today, no military options (are) on the table,” he said, adding that what they urgently need is an economic and political support.

The military option may be what’s on Russia’s table, though. They seem to be itching for a fight as a pretext for wider action, and are probably eyeballing eastern Ukraine as well. Ukraine’s full mobilization will only hold off Russia for a short time, and Yatsenyuk clearly wants to prevent Russia from seizing any more ground by improving readiness but remaining as still as possible otherwise.

It’s difficult to see how this ends well. Russia’s invasion of Crimea was based on a non-existent pretext of oppression of ethnic Russians, so it’s unclear that they’ll simply stall for a real provocation. At some point, they’ll just make one up. Still, this is really Yatsenyuk’s only play, especially since he’s not going to get military assistance from Europe.


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Whatever. Obama has to give ESPN his NCAA picks.

Chuck Schick on March 3, 2014 at 10:37 AM

This is getting worse.

The void of Western Leadership is being filled by Putin & his minions.

This is “Climate Change” we can all agree on.

portlandon on March 3, 2014 at 10:38 AM

One speech from Obama and Russia will surrender… We are living in the weakest and most incompetent Presidency in the history of the Republic…

mnjg on March 3, 2014 at 10:41 AM

:Looks like war is inevitable…

OmahaConservative on March 3, 2014 at 10:42 AM

This is what happens when we elect someone with the maturity of a 6 year old girl as President.

ConstantineXI on March 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM

We’ve reached the point with this Administration, where
the grotesque incompetnece, and abject Stupidity
is overwhelming the Ivy League condescension…

..listen to Kerry yesterday…the man is just Dripping with
arrogance, and condescension that he, and this President
are on top of things, (even though they were caught off guard0
and we’re not to question them….

ToddPA on March 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Putin won’t back down showing weakness so you are probably right that they wil make something up. After all he is protecting the Russian speaking crowd.

plutorocks on March 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM

So this is allegedly the “great” Russian Army- trampling an independent states population and squashing individual freedom wherever it is aspired?

There is no honor or strength in that endeavor.

The Russian Army is nothing but this generations oafish bullies and thugs akin to 21st Century Stormtroopers. They’ve become everything they allegedly loathed.

Marcus Traianus on March 3, 2014 at 10:44 AM

If the western media had any guts, they’d be all there with cameras & shaming Putin for this. There should be 24/7 coverage staring down Putin & the Russian troops.

But the Oscars were last night, so…..

portlandon on March 3, 2014 at 10:45 AM

“Or else,” in this case, is not good.

“Or else,” when Obama says it, gets laughed at.

Red Cloud on March 3, 2014 at 10:45 AM

I want it on every telephone poll on the internet from now until Nov 8, 2016…

JohnGalt23 on March 3, 2014 at 10:40 AM

oh yah……priceless

gracie on March 3, 2014 at 10:46 AM

I want it on every telephone poll on the internet from now until Nov 8, 2016…

JohnGalt23 on March 3, 2014 at 10:40 AM

What difference does it make?
/

plutorocks on March 3, 2014 at 10:47 AM

Smart diplomacy is strengthening the world,just not our part!

tim c on March 3, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Red Cloud on March 3, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Strange how much more gravitas a Putin “Or else…” carries than an Obama “Or else…”

JohnGalt23 on March 3, 2014 at 10:50 AM

This is what happens when we elect someone with the maturity of a 6 year old girl as President.
ConstantineXI on March 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM

An insult to six year old girls everywhere!

KS Rex on March 3, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Anyone seen bayum?

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Sorry, should have read, bayam. ; )

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 10:52 AM

bayum?

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Probably posting somewhere about liberals and ipos.

CWchangedhisNicagain on March 3, 2014 at 10:52 AM

More exciting than the Walking Dead last night. /s

Seriously, is the media giving Putin a pass on this?

If I were the other former Soviet Republics I would beef up their military and then train behind the line resistance forces.

Oil Can on March 3, 2014 at 10:52 AM

If the invading troops aren’t wearing identifying patches, I say we strafe them an few times. Russia really going to complain if their soldiers are taken out while out of uniform? And if they do, built in plausible deniability. Obama is too weak to do it, sadly.

brainy435 on March 3, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Is the Red Army going to cross the red line???
/

ted c on March 3, 2014 at 10:52 AM

No see…Obama has a phone and a pen!

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Hmmm. What would President Rand Paul do?

BKeyser on March 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Wow, I always thought WWIII would start in a more dramatic fashion.

Well, might as well just declare an early happy hour and call it a day.

Happy Nomad on March 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Russians Moving Self Propelled Artillery Into Ukraine

Alert @JakeTapper: Tell CNN these aren’t tanks – they’re SP-artillery. That’s a bigger deal than tanks. @jimgeraghty pic.twitter.com/Rve55MUa3I

— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) March 3, 2014

Resist We Much on March 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM

No see…Obama has a phone and a pen!

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Putin is making it precisely clear what our filthy worthless leader can do with that phone and pen.

Happy Nomad on March 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM

If the western media had any guts, they’d be all there with cameras & shaming Putin for this. There should be 24/7 coverage staring down Putin & the Russian troops.

But the Oscars were last night, so…..

portlandon on March 3, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Do you think Putin really cares if the Western Media “shames” him?

someguyinnc on March 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Looks like at a minimum Putin is forcing a partition.

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Bush Senior told Saddamm to get out of Kuwait or else

saddam took or else and lost half his army

Bush Junior told Saddam to get out of iraq or else

Saddamm took or else and ended up at the end of a rope

Putin tells the Ukraine to surrender the Crimea pennensula or else
Ukraine is very concerned

Obama tells putin to go home or else

everyone is now laughing at obama

sniffles1999 on March 3, 2014 at 10:57 AM

This is what happens when we elect someone with the maturity of a 6 year old girl as President.

ConstantineXI on March 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM

it’s getting old to be attributing obama’s weaknesses and inadequacies to his “female” qualities….this is what you get when affirmative action elects a president ill-prepared to be the CIC and to take on the proud Russian Putin like the leader of the free world should…man or woman, and fight hard and fight smart.

gracie on March 3, 2014 at 10:57 AM

..tomorrow things will be better…

..John Kerry is arriving in Kiev….

..in a fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan, no doubt…

..maybe he can toss a few Russian medals over a fence…

ToddPA on March 3, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Russians Moving Self Propelled Artillery Into Ukraine

Alert @JakeTapper: Tell CNN these aren’t tanks – they’re SP-artillery. That’s a bigger deal than tanks. @jimgeraghty pic.twitter.com/Rve55MUa3I

— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) March 3, 2014

Resist We Much on March 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Do they site where in the Ukraine?

So far he’s stayed close to the Russian border and his interests in the Black Sea.

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 10:57 AM

“Or else,” when Obama says it, gets laughed at.

Red Cloud on March 3, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Yeah, Obama saying “or else” is like a parent telling his kids “don’t make me come up there” when the kids know full will that the dad doesn’t mean it.

Happy Nomad on March 3, 2014 at 10:58 AM

This is what happens when we elect someone with the maturity of a 6 year old girl as President.

ConstantineXI on March 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM

My niece is upset at the comparison and thinks you are a doody -head for making it!

Which is a more cogent and mature response to the situation than anything Obama has offered.

questionmark on March 3, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Resist We Much on March 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Welcome back btw…

: )

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Do not worry Comrades – invasion will stop dead in tracks with speech by our glorious Dear leader Obama – you just wait and see.

Putin shaking in his boots at the very news that the TOTUS is being warmed up.

Comrade Sterpin on March 3, 2014 at 11:01 AM

Do not worry Comrades – invasion will stop dead in tracks with speech by our glorious Dear leader Obama – you just wait and see.

Putin shaking in his boots at the very news that the TOTUS is being warmed up..

Comrade Sterpin on March 3, 2014 at 11:01 AM

Listening to Glenn Beck today, I realized just how out of touch this new Ron Paul lite foreign policy movement has become.

This is a direct effect of our impotence towards Russia in Georgia, on missile defense, on nukes… Cowardice here will only provoke further aggression. In a couple years it will be all of Ukraine, then Latvia, then Lithuania… and so on. And on the other side, this will embolden China to take back Taiwan, then encircle Japan and then South Korea.

It will never stop. Some how, crazy people will always rise to power somewhere; and the temptations of money, riches, land, pride, power, nationalism will always tempt the wackos into transgressions if there are no repercussions.

Meanwhile, trade, markets, travel constricts, hurting us all.

swamp_yankee on March 3, 2014 at 11:02 AM

..tomorrow things will be better…

..John Kerry is arriving in Kiev….

ToddPA on March 3, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Great, except that the real issue is Crimea. The problem isn’t with the provisional government in Kiev. They want their territory back! Kerry might as well be at Foggy Bottom if he isn’t willing to go to Moscow and send a clear message (which he is not).

Happy Nomad on March 3, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Do you think Putin really cares if the Western Media “shames” him?

someguyinnc on March 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM

I do. Putin can get away with what he’s gotten away with nobody is really giving it any meaningful coverage.

You go back 20 years ago, and most media outlets would have their “Christine Amanpour” types out there freaking out.

Today’s media? “Did you see the gown that Meryl Streep wore last night? OMG!”

portlandon on March 3, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Resist We Much on March 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Welcome back btw…

: )

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 11:00 AM

INDEED!

Nothing like the smell of noob blood to rouse the tiger!

You’ve been missed!

questionmark on March 3, 2014 at 11:02 AM

“Whoa, nobody ever never saw this coming.” – the smart kids

forest on March 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Well having your brand new head of the Navy defect isn’t helpful.

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2014 at 11:04 AM

Putin doesn’t dare do this if Bush was still president. Say what you will about Bush, Putin was at least scared of Bush. Obama, not so much….

nazo311 on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 AM

This may be true, it may not be true. Quit repeating rumours. This is another in a long line of cases where all the reports are coming via the same source. You should have included “claim” or “report” in the headline.

db on March 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Kirstin Stupid Powers “how is this different from GWB?”

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Hope and Change

faraway on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 AM

Two things the Obama Administration should do:

Go forward with the missile defense shield. Allow Ukraine to pursue nukes.

swamp_yankee on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 AM

I wonder what independent filmmaker caused this “riot action”?

dominigan on March 3, 2014 at 11:07 AM

Will Barry have the stones to order up some B2 strikes to hole the invaders? Me thinks …. not a chance.

No Time Clock on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Democrats across the fruited plains hold their tongues, desperately waiting for the “correct” talking points to use about the next coming “BUSH’S WAR!!!@@$&(*@#&&@*$$@!!!!!!!”.

Jeddite on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Moldova will be next, and on and on…Yes, he can!

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Do you think Putin really cares if the Western Media “shames” him?

someguyinnc on March 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM

I do. Putin can get away with what he’s gotten away with nobody is really giving it any meaningful coverage.

You go back 20 years ago, and most media outlets would have their “Christine Amanpour” types out there freaking out.

Today’s media? “Did you see the gown that Meryl Streep wore last night? OMG!”

portlandon on March 3, 2014 at 11:02 AM

I disagree. You see how much good all that bad press over gay rights did to change Russia’s laws while the Olympics were there.

someguyinnc on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Resist We Much on March 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM

<—- Quotes from the movie "The Postman" Hey, I know you, you're famous…

oscarwilde on March 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Resist We Much on March 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM

RWM! Welcome back! Where the Fluke you been hiding?

NotCoach on March 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM

What happened to “uncontested arrival”?

TarheelBen on March 3, 2014 at 11:11 AM

Obama is employing a brilliant strategy epitomized by Oddball in the movie Kelly’s Heroes:

Sgt. Oddball [Donald Sutherland] : We see our role as essentially defensive in nature. While our armies are advancing so fast and everyone’s knocking themselves out to be heroes, we are holding ourselves in reserve in case the Krauts mount a counteroffensive which threatens Paris… or maybe even New York. Then we can move in and stop them.

Kelly’s Heroes
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0017084/quotes

Comrade Sterpin on March 3, 2014 at 11:11 AM

Come on, Putin would never launch a military assault on the Crimea while Kerry is in Kiev. He has too much respect for Obama and Kerry to do that.

Aplombed on March 3, 2014 at 11:11 AM

Can you just imagine how much The Won wants some/any of the Western leaders to come up with an idea to get his trifling azz out of this mess?

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM

Recall how very pis*ed off Putin was when the US moved into:

Iraq
Afghanistan
Libya
overthrew of Egypt’s Mubarak
meddling in Syria and on-going clusterfark

Sure, you do. That was when the world, especially the US, ignored Putin, because of this.

Kirstin, you dummy, don’t tell us that Obama is GWB. Plus, when in Hell will obama become the US president, you gnatbrain?

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM

overthrew of Egypt’s Mubarak

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM

Left, right, conservative, liberal, I dont think any of them have a good solution to this problem. I am pretty sure though that cutting the Army is one of the worst ideas.

argusx2002 on March 3, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Is she saying this while complaining that W got us into two wars with no plans to pay for it. It’s hard to keep the talking points in line.

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Listening to Glenn Beck today, I realized just how out of touch this new Ron Paul lite foreign policy movement has become.

This is a direct effect of our impotence towards Russia in Georgia, on missile defense, on nukes… Cowardice here will only provoke further aggression. In a couple years it will be all of Ukraine, then Latvia, then Lithuania… and so on. And on the other side, this will embolden China to take back Taiwan, then encircle Japan and then South Korea.

It will never stop. Some how, crazy people will always rise to power somewhere; and the temptations of money, riches, land, pride, power, nationalism will always tempt the wackos into transgressions if there are no repercussions.

Meanwhile, trade, markets, travel constricts, hurting us all.

swamp_yankee on March 3, 2014 at 11:02 AM

The primary wheat production zones in the Ukraine are in Eastern and Southeastern Ukraine.
Ukraine has the largest Coal deposits in Europe.

Putin is protecting his Southstream pipeline as well as naval assets in the Black Sea.

Ask yourself this…

What happens to International Trade if the dominance of the seas becomes primarily Russian…Chinese…and Iranian in strategic zones?

That’s what we’re looking at if we don’t wise up PDQ.

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM

What happened to “uncontested arrival”?

TarheelBen on March 3, 2014 at 11:11 AM

Uncontested arrival is now “Uncontested occupation” comrade..

Comrade Sterpin on March 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM

….now if Obama just hadn’t pissed off the Pole’s.

Tater Salad on March 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM

The new American foreign policy is Meals-on-Wheels. That is the direction of American policy from this point forward. If you are AOK with that I wish you well. Glad I’m too damn old to worry about it. I followed the game plan, voted, worked, paid my taxes, served in the military and did what I could to keep the keel of the ship in the down position. That the ship is rolling over now is just something you younger people are going to have to deal with. Have fun!

Limerick on March 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM

What happens to International Trade if the dominance of the seas becomes primarily Russian…Chinese…and Iranian in strategic zones?

That’s what we’re looking at if we don’t wise up PDQ.

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM

Never assume that obama has the US’ best interest in mind and heart.

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM

Is this part of Obama’s “additional room to negotiate after the election”?

Tater Salad on March 3, 2014 at 11:15 AM

I am pretty sure though that cutting the Army is one of the worst ideas.

argusx2002 on March 3, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Interesting that the only place this man(?) is willing to cut is the one place he is constitutionally responsible to spend.

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2014 at 11:16 AM

The only reason why the first few months of World War I spun out of control was because the European powers at the time were actually willing to back up their words with armies. Nobody seriously expects the West, especially Obama, to do anything about this militarily. Ukrainia’s only hope is to threaten Russia with another Chechnya, but we all saw how “well” that worked out for the Chechnyans. It ends badly for the Ukrainians. As for the west, we could care less. And that is a shame. We have a chance to really stick it to Putin here by arming the Ukrainians and turning that place into another Afghanistan for Russia. But that will never happen given the weakness of the west and with Obama leading the way.

Libertyship46 on March 3, 2014 at 11:16 AM

It’s difficult to see how this ends well.

Yep. With Putin’s ego, I think the end was fully determined before the begin.

Tsar of Earth on March 3, 2014 at 11:16 AM

More good news people!

US stock futures down hard on Ukraine worries, after spending data
[cnbc]

DinaRehn on March 3, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Putin doesn’t dare do this if Bush was still president. Say what you will about Bush, Putin was at least scared of Bush. Obama, not so much….

nazo311 on March 3, 2014 at 11:05 AM

I know what you are trying to say, but let’s remember that Putin sent Russian troops into Georgia in 2008 when Bush was President. Granted, it also was about the time that Bush was at his weakest as a President.

Putin is playing the same game in Ukraine that Hitler did with the Sudetenland in 1938….and using much of the same rhetoric. He’s betting that the rest of Europe is not willing to go too far to oppose him, lacking the will, military strength, and are still too dependent on Russian natural gas. He also knows that the Obama / Kerry / Clapper foreign policy – national security team is far more focused on appeasement than being willing to stand up against a bully.

Given Putin is willing to use force, and the West is not – there are few options. All of those are made worse by the failures of this Administration to a) send the right messages to our enemies; b) to work with our friends and allies; and c) understand the strategic imperative to maximize the development of the US / Canadian energy resources so we can use those resources to assist our friends and allies by reducing their dependence on thugs like Putin.

Athos on March 3, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Never forget the lessons of Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard liberalism……………”if America no longer has to be the worlds super power then we can redistribute money to historically oppressed people of color”.

Tater Salad on March 3, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Moldova will be next, and on and on…Yes, he can!

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Looks like Putin has been laying the groundwork for a while?

It’s pravda but any who…

Dated Feb. 2013

“The Russian language under threat in Moldova…”

http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/02-08-2013/125305-russian_moldova-0/

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Do you think Putin really cares if the Western Media “shames” him?

No, but pictures might alert the American people that Barky and Lurch and the rest of the dems have given leadership worse than Wilson and Jennings Bryant in 1914. If pictures of a real invasion shock the west to see that their leaders vision is an illusion and a fantasy all to the good. Send in the cameras to spotlight the clowns.

xkaydet65 on March 3, 2014 at 11:19 AM

he new leaders of Ukraine clearly have Georgia on their mind

Good, Ed.

davidk on March 3, 2014 at 11:20 AM

I am sure Dear Leader will write a strong letter a la “White Chicks” to the UN. That will fix him

Brock Robamney on March 3, 2014 at 11:20 AM

UN Security Council will hold public meeting at 3:30 pm ET on Ukraine – statement via @NBCNews

davidk on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 AM

I hear Vlad had Obama on hold for 87 minutes of that “90 minute” phone call. Complete with the Russian Army Chorus singing in the background.

otlset on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Talk loudly and carry a toothpick

Brock Robamney on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 AM

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Putin’s basically re-running the playbook that Hitler ran 1936-1939 (Rhineland, Austria, Sudetenland, western Poland) but expecting different results because of the fecklessness of the American President and other key European leaders.

He’s prepared to use force to gain what he wants. I don’t think we even have the will to respond with a robust economic war – just the usual slaps on the wrist of limited sanctions, barring some Russian officials from entry into the US, and limited asset freezes. Like the West in 1936-1939 – our leadership has done little to really prepare for this threat because they saw only what they wanted to see.

Athos on March 3, 2014 at 11:22 AM

The Guardian (Scroll down):

A source in the Ukrainian defence ministry has told the Guardian’s, Shaun Walker, in Crimea, that he has heard nothing about an ultimatum that has reportedly been posed to Ukrainian forces in the region to surrender before 3am GMT or face an assault. Shaun writes:

He is not that senior but says he’s on a base right now and neither he nor the base commanders have heard anything of the sort. He said: “It’s probably another red herring to stir up trouble.”

I’m not sure that this report of an ultimatum is true. It may be Euromaidan PR.

Kaffa on March 3, 2014 at 11:23 AM

NotCoach

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Putin won’t back down showing weakness so you are probably right that they wil make something up. After all he is protecting the Russian speaking crowd.

plutorocks on March 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM

“Any YouTube videos we can blame this on?” – State

Tsar of Earth on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 AM

…HOPE & CHANGE!
….FORWARD!!!!!!

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2014 at 11:25 AM

UN Security Council will hold public meeting at 3:30 pm ET on Ukraine – statement via @NBCNews

davidk on March 3, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Oh the drama! Another discussion that will last until the Russian flag flies in Kiev.

Limerick on March 3, 2014 at 11:26 AM

What happens to International Trade if the dominance of the seas becomes primarily Russian…Chinese…and Iranian in strategic zones?

That’s what we’re looking at if we don’t wise up PDQ.

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM

Never assume that obama has the US’ best interest in mind and heart.

Schadenfreude on March 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM

It’s hard to keep up a decent military and budget dependency of the hoi polloi simultaneously.

That’s what Europe did…because they has the US.

Too bad Russia and China haven’t quite jumped on the Unity Elf Wagon…tends to spoil things.

Anybody paying even cursory attention to events over the last few years would’ve seen this coming…Palin was stating the obvious in 2008.

Russia and China are ramping up the military upgrades and forging new alignments to counteract the EU and the US.

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Do you think Putin really cares if the Western Media “shames” him?

No, but pictures might alert the American people that Barky and Lurch and the rest of the dems have given leadership worse than Wilson and Jennings Bryant in 1914. If pictures of a real invasion shock the west to see that their leaders vision is an illusion and a fantasy all to the good. Send in the cameras to spotlight the clowns.

xkaydet65 on March 3, 2014 at 11:19 AM

It has not had that big of an effect on showing this with Syria. The press isn’t going to frame the POTUS policies in a bad light if they can find some wiggle room out of it. If there was an R in the white house you could guarantee that we would be having 24/7 coverage of what is going on over there.

someguyinnc on March 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM

The news just gets even better:

Russia And China ‘In Agreement’ Over Ukraine
Russia has said China is largely “in agreement” over Ukraine, after other world powers condemned Moscow for sending troops into the country.

Hundreds of Russian soldiers have surrounded a military base in Crimea, preventing Ukranian soldiers from going in or out.

The convoy blockading the site, near the Crimean capital Simferopol, includes at least 17 military vehicles.
http://news.sky.com/story/1219922/russia-and-china-in-agreement-over-ukraine

DinaRehn on March 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM

UN Security Council will hold public meeting at 3:30 pm ET on Ukraine – statement via @NBCNews

They should hold the meeting in a closed garage with all of their limos running.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Never forget the lessons of Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard liberalism……………”if America no longer has to be the worlds super power then we can redistribute money to historically oppressed people of color”.

Tater Salad on March 3, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Ah, I see. American must cede the position of being the world’s super power so more of the oppressed can continue to get more free stuff at the expense of freedom.

All praise be to Bammy then.

hawkeye54 on March 3, 2014 at 11:30 AM

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Putin’s basically re-running the playbook that Hitler ran 1936-1939 (Rhineland, Austria, Sudetenland, western Poland) but expecting different results because of the fecklessness of the American President and other key European leaders.

He’s prepared to use force to gain what he wants. I don’t think we even have the will to respond with a robust economic war – just the usual slaps on the wrist of limited sanctions, barring some Russian officials from entry into the US, and limited asset freezes. Like the West in 1936-1939 – our leadership has done little to really prepare for this threat because they saw only what they wanted to see.

Athos on March 3, 2014 at 11:22 AM

Maybe….We’ll see if Putin settles with a Partition of the Ukraine. This gives him security over his pipeline and he may be either anticipating a breakup of the EU or doing his bit to hasten the economic instability within the EU?

Meanwhile China is preparing the way for it’s own assertions in the Pacific.

Neither is quite prepared for larger aggression…but if they can exploit weakness they will.

It’s early yet.

workingclass artist on March 3, 2014 at 11:31 AM

NotCoach

Bmore on March 3, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Thanks, Bmore. Glad she is doing well.

NotCoach on March 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Shotgun Joe, new sheriff in town:

In call with Russian Prime Minister Medvedev, US Vice President Biden urged Russia to pull back its forces, support immediate deployment of international monitors to Ukraine, begin meaningful dialogue with Ukrainian government – statement via @NBCNews

davidk on March 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Oh the drama! Another discussion that will last until the Russian flag flies in Kiev.

Limerick on March 3, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Exactly!

Kaffa on March 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

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