What did Hillary really accomplish at State?

posted at 3:31 pm on March 2, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

At the Washingtonian, James Rosen poses an interesting scenario for everyone to consider. Let’s see how well you do with this thought exercise.

Take a minute to play communications director for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential run. Your task: come up with a 30-second spot to run in the early primary states about your candidate’s four years as Secretary of State.

What part of the world do you start with? Iran? John Kerry now owns, for better or worse, the effort to bar the mullahs from getting the bomb. The “pivot to Asia”? The pushback on China in the Pacific has yet to take any visible shape beyond President Obama’s patented phrase. The “reset” with Russia? Really? Putin’s a pal now?

Anyone putting together a brag clip about Clinton’s tenure at State faces the question a Democratic strategist put to me in a recent e-mail: “Can she translate her record into accomplishments that are meaningful to Iowa farmers and flinty New Hampshire Yankees?”

Perhaps a better question than can she translate her accomplishments might be to ask, point blank, whether she can list any accomplishments. (No… Benghazi doesn’t count. I’m talking about positive accomplishments.) Aside from her already noted record setting pace for racking up frequent flier miles, what did she really do? Was there any great peace deal brokered somewhere? Some breakthrough in trade or normalization of relations with a previously hostile nation? Or even the submission of one to international pressure brokered by the US? Nothing seems to jump to mind.

Rosen also examines exactly how much of a favor Barack Obama did for Clinton by elevating her from the Senate to the State Department after beating her in the 2008 primary. I suppose I was one of those who also assumed that it was an even deal on the President’s part. He needed her cooperation – or at least her silence and apparent forgiveness to win over her supporters – after the trouncing she sustained. In exchange, she not only got a plum assignment, but a perceived step up to be Obama’s successor.

But was it really all that? As the article reminded me, it’s been a century and a half since the last time a Secretary of State moved directly from that office to the White House. The office doesn’t seem to lend itself to the promotion, particularly since voters tend to be more concerned with domestic affairs than foreign policy unless we’re on the brink of war. (The fact that we’ve also tended to nominate people who aren’t even qualified to be President from time to time doesn’t help either.) But the nature of the job also keeps the occupant off the field of play as well. No matter how good a job any Secretary has done, they are pretty much defined as being “outside” of politics (at least in theory), so they spend a full term where they are unable to keep their hand in the game as others position themselves for a run and weigh in on every issue under discussion.

Assuming she runs, when the time comes, will Hillary have a story to tell which inspires confidence among the voters as to the job she’d do? Or will being the inevitable first female president be enough? Until 2008 I wouldn’t have thought so. Now I’m not so sure.


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(No… Benghazi doesn’t count. I’m talking about positive accomplishments.)

Oh sure, take getting the first ambassador in thirty years to be killed in the line of duty off the table.
Well then, there’s, ah, er, the time she, um, or her initiative to . . . well I got nothing.

rbj on March 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM

I had to do this. What difference does it make?

notwantedinN.Y.

jmtham156 on March 2, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Not a damned thing, other than alienating or friends…

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 3:36 PM

She kept the Russians from trying to recreate the USSR by invading and annexing their neighbors.

Do you ‘wingers ever read a book?

Bishop on March 2, 2014 at 3:38 PM

What did Hillary really accomplish at State on her own?

Schadenfreude on March 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM

I triple dare anyone to name one foreign policy success of obama/Hillary/Kerry/Rice/Powell. Be factual.

Schadenfreude on March 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM

spent tons of our tax money giving green cooking stoves away to other countries.

dmacleo on March 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Beckel already said that Hillary was responsible for the reform government in Myanmar (Burma). Her involvement was actually after the fact and had little to nothing to do with the reform that took place.

huckleberryfriend on March 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM

What did Hillary really accomplish at State?

People keep asking that question. No one seems to have a good answer. Unless, of course, you count, “Nothing!

There Goes the Neighborhood on March 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM

I’m hoping she learned the difference between being shot at by a sniper and a 12 year old girl handing her flowers, because she didn’t know the difference before.

Flange on March 2, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Her supporters could care less.

rob verdi on March 2, 2014 at 3:43 PM

God, she’s one ugly broad.

lostmotherland on February 26, 2014 at 4:09 PM

slickwillie2001 on March 2, 2014 at 3:44 PM

I triple dare anyone to name one foreign policy success of obama/Hillary/Kerry/Rice/Powell. Be factual.

Schadenfreude on March 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM

The jailing of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, of course!

Oh, wait …

ShainS on March 2, 2014 at 3:45 PM

I triple dare anyone to name one foreign policy success of obama/Hillary/Kerry/Rice/Powell. Be factual.

Schadenfreude on March 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Dumped billions of tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere racking up millions of frequent flier miles?

Oh, wait …

ShainS on March 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

I’m sure HilarysWetPanties aka HillAreWe aka HotAirLib will be along shortly to let us know.

HumpBot Salvation on March 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

All that flying left a carbon footprint bigger than her backside?

Wethal on March 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Jinx!

Heh …

ShainS on March 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

All that flying left a carbon footprint bigger than her backside?

Wethal on March 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM

What has she accomplished at State? The same thing she’s accomplished with any of her endeavors, nothing. She did expend enough carbon credits to equal several thousand villages in her frequent trips.

iamsaved on March 2, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Killed four patriots.

trs on March 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Didn’t she bring peace to Northern Ireland or something?

/s

Wethal on March 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM

If an enterprising, young, whipper snapper journalist really wanted to make a name for himself, he’d go back one step further and ask:

Would anyone know who Hillary Rodham is if she wasn’t married to the second impeached POTUS?

Ruckus_Tom on March 2, 2014 at 3:54 PM

flinty New Hampshire yankees

Ha, you mean those flinty New Hampshire yankees who elected Shaheen and keep electing Democrats?

Cleombrotus on March 2, 2014 at 3:56 PM

A record number of frequent flyer miles?

platypus on March 2, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Well, yes, for starters she is a woman.

She surrounds herself with diverse opinions and cultures. Her travels and background as SecOfSate will really broaden her world view. She can be a president to many from different backgrounds.

HillAREwe on February 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Fenris on March 2, 2014 at 4:00 PM

A record number of frequent flyer miles?

platypus on March 2, 2014 at 3:56 PM

…and empty Stolichnaya bottles?

slickwillie2001 on March 2, 2014 at 4:01 PM

What did Hillary really accomplish at State?

If the election of Barack Obama has taught us anything, it’s that accomplishments don’t seem to matter much any more.

flipflop on March 2, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Lady MacDeath helped to further corrupt the soul of America.

Rae on March 2, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Hillary does not need accomplishments to win the presidency. The sheeple will vote for just because, 1. She’s a Democrat, 2. She’s Hillary, 3. She is a woman, 4. She is not Sarah Palin.

The list of accomplishments of Barack Obama was even fewer than Hillary’s, and he won anyway. The media will turn her in to a 70 year old rock star who is invincible and inevitible.

Disasterous things like Benghazi will be a footnte, and the silly “reset” button foible will just get laughed off.

The trolls at CNNMSNBCABCNBCCBS are already getting a tingle down their leg.

simkeith on March 2, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Settled down into the low ground of Foggy Bottom are a great many secrets that U.S. powerbrokers and various foreign counterparts have held jointly to maintain the staus of powerful through the decades.

I’m quite sure the foreign (illegal) donations to Billy Jeff’s and Obuggerme’s campaigns will look like nothing compared to the efforts that will be made on Hillary’s behalf. I promise you, even Putin will endorse her.

And that’s what Hillary accomplished at State … just watch.

M240H on March 2, 2014 at 4:06 PM

She strengthened our economic ties with Russia by single-handedly accounting for a 20% jump in vodka sales.

Diplomacy.

steebo77 on March 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM

I hate stories like this. It makes people complacent.

Obama’s resume was thinner than Hillary’s. He got elected twice.

spinach.chin on March 2, 2014 at 4:08 PM

She makes John Kerry look only marginally incompetent?

mad scientist on March 2, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Boobies and frequent flyer miles IIRC.

rogerb on March 2, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Or will being the inevitable first female president be enough? Until 2008 I wouldn’t have thought so. Now I’m not so sure.

Only if wimpy men stay home…

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Hey, LIBTARDS: Name ONE (any ONE) ACCOMPLISHMENT of Shrillary Rotten clinton as Sec. of State. Go ahead. I’m waiting … and waiting, and waiting, and waiting…

OK, maybe that one was too hard. Here’s another: Name ONE (any one) accomplishment of Shrillary Rotten Clinton EVER. Go ahead, don’t be shy. I’m waiting …. and waiting, and waiting…..

One last chance – you libtards are so good at pulling things out of your…er…harry reid – that you should be able to come up with ONE !!!! You still got nothing, eh?

FACT: There is NOTHING good about the lunatic-left socialist extremist Shrillary Rotten Clinton. This pathetic excuse for a human couldn’t clean Margaret Thatcher’s toilet and certainly can’t do anything good for America. Her tenure as one of the WORST SEC. OF STATE in American history proved that her incompetence with HILLARYCARE, TRAVEL GATE, WHITEWATER, the DEATH OF Vince FOSTER, BENGAHZI, etc., etc., etc., were NOT exceptions – they are the rule with this political hack. And may nobody ever forget her disgraceful, disgusting, shameful handling of BENGHAZI – where she, along with OBOZO, literally did NOTHING to stop the muslim islamofacists from murdering FOUR AMERICAN CITIZENS – and then covered up her atrocious INACTION.

Special note to libtards: NO, the fact that Shrillary has had more “cat” than monica-stain bill is NOT an accomplishment – though it is a Guinness Book of Records-level amazing fact.

TeaPartyNation on March 2, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Boobies and frequent flyer miles IIRC.
 
rogerb on March 2, 2014 at 4:11 PM

 
Ha. Upthread:
 

Well, yes, for starters she is a woman.
 
She surrounds herself with diverse opinions and cultures. Her travels and background as SecOfSate will really broaden her world view. She can be a president to many from different backgrounds.
 
HillAREwe on February 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

 
Fenris on March 2, 2014 at 4:00 PM

 
Looks like I did remember correctly. Nicely done, Fenris.

rogerb on March 2, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Was there any great peace deal brokered somewhere? Some breakthrough in trade or normalization of relations with a previously hostile nation?

I’d settle with the maintenance of relations with a friendly nation. Right now, Obama and Kerry could use some friendly nations to help breathe some reality into their dealings with Putin. But Obama and Clinton seem to have spent the first four years of their “smart diplomacy” pissing off our traditional friends, and now they’re not here when we need them.

Socratease on March 2, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Hugh Hewitt has asked EJ Dionne, Dana Milbank and a bunch of other lefties the question of “what were HRC’s accomplishments at State” with hilarious results.

http://www.hughhewitt.com/upcoming-fifth-anniversary-hillarys-reset-button/

Spider79 on March 2, 2014 at 4:22 PM

I think the ad is relatively easy. For anyone who has read the Berenstain Bears, she can say 2 things, first of all, “Have you ever tried being Secretary of State for a Community Organizer?” and secondly, she can say, “After being Secretary of State for the Community Organizer, I’m the only one, in this race, who knows what you don’t do, as far as foreign policy is concerned.” And that, my friends, will probably be enough to get the L.I.V. vote.

bflat879 on March 2, 2014 at 4:23 PM

I think she traveled so much because she didn’t have a clue what to do as far as actually running the State Department, which was one of her responsibilities. So naturally, there would be a desire to promote her to the position of CEO of the entire federal government. It’s the Peter Principle on steroids. After Obama, the bar as been set pretty low as far as having actual executive experience.

TarheelBen on March 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM

She’s a woman, a Democrat, and married to the charismatic (gag) Bill Clinton. That’s enough for the media and quite possibly the voters.

DisneyFan on March 2, 2014 at 4:28 PM

She was ready for that 3:00 AM phone call on 9/11 and was in contact with Prezbo.

Oh wait….

banzaibob on March 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM

The trolls at CNNMSNBCABCNBCCBS are already getting a tingle down their leg.

simkeith on March 2, 2014 at 4:06 PM

I thought it was “up their leg.” Er, well, the more I think about it, maybe “down their leg” is more appropriate.

TarheelBen on March 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Hillary’s big claim to fame has always been that she was married to a man who became president and cheated on her multiple times.

The woman is an unlikable phony who craves power.

bluegill on March 2, 2014 at 4:30 PM

She had tea and crumpets with Cristina.

But look, it just reminds again, there is no reason to bring up Monica and the 90s (except for Hillarycare). Let’s just stick with the lines of reasoning expressed on this post.

cimbri on March 2, 2014 at 4:30 PM

No… Benghazi doesn’t count. I’m talking about positive accomplishments.

Fair enough for the thought exercise but her appointment was really just about appeasing the legions of rabid stupid women who were sore that Killary did not get the nomination.

Look at her female predecessors Albright and Condi Rice- Individuals with legitimate foreign policy credentials. Killary, not so much and all foreign policy statements under Obama came out of the White House and not Foggy Bottom. Through in the fun gaffes like the re-set button, gifting Tony Blair the wrong region DVDs and QEII an I-Pod with Obama’s greatest speeches, and all the rest and you see an administration that really doesn’t give a damn about foreign policy.

Benghazi happened in great part because added security was denied because the planned narrative going into the 2012 elections was that we were winning the conflict in Lybia by means of “smart diplomacy” to the point that the consulate’s status as was just upgraded during a visit by the SecState.

Even now, with Kerry in the job, it is all about throwing money at terrorists in the hope that some sort of “agreement” can be crafted into legacy building. The Camp David Accords were much the same thing by Carter.

Happy Nomad on March 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM

flinty New Hampshire yankees

Ha, you mean those flinty New Hampshire yankees who elected Shaheen and keep electing Democrats?

Cleombrotus on March 2, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Not only that, but Jazz has the wrong word-flint is a form of the mineral quartz. And as everyone knows, New Hampshire is the Granite State, of which quartz is just a portion.

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Russians didn’t send warships to Cuba…oh, nevermind.

Kanga on March 2, 2014 at 4:32 PM

…troll free!

KOOLAID2 on March 2, 2014 at 4:33 PM

I can’t see the “inevitability of Hillary”. Democratics must be looking at the REB and marveling at how his race has made him untouchable. There’s not a hope in H of impeachment, he can ignore any law he wants, ignore court orders, imagine Senate in recess when it’s not, he can just make up new laws. We have actually been told that any criticism of the REB is racist. We’ve been told that saying ‘Chicago’ is racist.

Democratics have to come to the realization that under a fat old white woman of privilege, that all comes to an end. That I believe will lead them to come up with another empty-suit black politician to promote into the nomination. Accomplishments and records and experience didn’t matter for the REB, it won’t matter for the next black guy just like him.

slickwillie2001 on March 2, 2014 at 4:33 PM

It amazes me that she would even get on a plane again after her harrowing experience landing in Bosnia as First Lady. Zig-zagging across the tarmac to avoid snipers is something that one does not get over lightly.

Happy Nomad on March 2, 2014 at 4:34 PM

She needs no accomplishment. She was born with lady parts. She can bring a truce to the war on women as the leader of the free stuff army.

Exninja on March 2, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Obama’s resume was thinner than Hillary’s. He got elected twice.

spinach.chin on March 2, 2014 at 4:08 PM

And that is exactly how he got elected. He was the anti-bush with no record. The MSM had a blank slate to make him into whatever they wanted with no baggage to worry about. He got elected the second time because Bush made such a big mess it couldn’t be fixed in just 4 years.

Johnnyreb on March 2, 2014 at 4:39 PM

But look, it just reminds again, there is no reason to bring up Monica and the 90s (except for Hillarycare). Let’s just stick with the lines of reasoning expressed on this post.

cimbri on March 2, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Sorry, but every time period of Hillary’s life is legitimate to investigate-the Democrats made hay out of what Bush did decades before the 2000 election, the idiot the Democrats ran in 2004 said he was “qualified” because of what he did in the 1960s, and Dems even squealed about how “Laura Bush” killed a classmate decades before she met W.

And since it’s the Democrats who are flogging the meme “War on Women”, and since Hillary would be running to become “The First Woman President”, her past history of treating women who accused her husband of adultery by calling them “sluts”-which even NOW admitted that she did do-should absolutely disqualify her from any claims to stand “for” women.

In addition, what she “did” in the 1990s soon resulted in her being elected to the US Senate, which later resulted in her becoming SOS.

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2014 at 4:40 PM

What did Hillary really accomplish at State?

Well, obviously, Jazz, Mrs. Bill laid the ground work for receiving her Nobel Prize.

locomotivebreath1901 on March 2, 2014 at 4:41 PM

He got elected the second time because Bush made such a big mess it couldn’t be fixed in just 4 years.

Johnnyreb on March 2, 2014 at 4:39 PM

No, he got elected the second time because he increased his share of the Stupid Vote, while abandoning the vote of educated people (he lost the college graduate vote in 2012).

And what’s your evidence that Bush and Bush alone made the big mess?

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2014 at 4:42 PM

She had tea and crumpets with Cristina.

But look, it just reminds again, there is no reason to bring up Monica and the 90s (except for Hillarycare). Let’s just stick with the lines of reasoning expressed on this post.

cimbri on March 2, 2014 at 4:30 PM

I disagree. It shouldn’t be the focus but the fact of the matter is that Killary was not the victim that her legions of rabid female supporters claim. There is documented proof of her participation in the political strategy meeting that ultimately led to her appearance in that pink suit to claim utter victimhood. There is documented proof that she supported the “nuts and sluts” strategy that sought to make Bill’s accusers into unhinged flighty women (until, of course, one of the nuts had DNA evidence).

Bottom line, if Killary runs (unlikely IMO), the inevitable war on women by attacking this bright brilliant woman’s campaign is only thwarted by re-visiting the days of Monica. To show that Killary was no victim of a horny spouse. She knew the truth long before she put on that pink suit and claimed complete ignorance why anybody would make these allegations about her Bill.

Happy Nomad on March 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM

I’m told she advanced womens rights all over the world. Not sure that was even part of her job description, nor was she successful.

ctmom on March 2, 2014 at 4:47 PM

I’m told she advanced womens rights all over the world. Not sure that was even part of her job description, nor was she successful.

ctmom on March 2, 2014 at 4:47 PM

This is what irritates me about coverage of Killary. There is some statement about her advancing womens’ rights all over the world without any specifics about exactly what she did.

When you are the Secretary of State of the United States, going to a conference, congress, assembly, or whatever and giving a speech where you say the US supports womens rights should not count as “advancing” the cause.

Happy Nomad on March 2, 2014 at 4:49 PM

But look, it just reminds again, there is no reason to bring up Monica and the 90s (except for Hillarycare). Let’s just stick with the lines of reasoning expressed on this post.

cimbri on March 2, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Wrong again. We are in the middle of multiple scandals involving the privacy of our citizens, -the IRS harassment of political parties, and the NSA eavesdropping on ALL Americans telephones, internet, email, and real mail.

One of Hillary’s scandals was her theft of FBI files on ALL members of Congress so she could comb the files for blackmail material. That was another investigation that went nowhere because of CCF stonewalling.

Imagine Hillary in control of the NSA, the IRS, and Obamacare and what she could do.

slickwillie2001 on March 2, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Obama’s resume was thinner than Hillary’s. He got elected twice.

spinach.chin on March 2, 2014 at 4:08 PM

And that is exactly how he got elected. He was the anti-bush with no record. The MSM had a blank slate to make him into whatever they wanted with no baggage to worry about …

Johnnyreb on March 2, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Respectfully disagree.

He had a horrible target-rich record; however, the sycophantic LSM whores refused to investigate it — and worse — report those actual facts exposed by others …

ShainS on March 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

No, he got elected the second time because he increased his share of the Stupid Vote, while abandoning the vote of educated people (he lost the college graduate vote in 2012).

And what’s your evidence that Bush and Bush alone made the big mess?

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2014 at 4:42 PM

I guess I should have put the snark indicator on that post. LOL

Johnnyreb on March 2, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Was there any great peace deal brokered somewhere? Some breakthrough in trade or normalization of relations with a previously hostile nation? Or even the submission of one to international pressure brokered by the US?

In a word, NO!

As for her being ‘inevitable’ – depends on how dumb voters really are. How many rushed to vote for “the first Black president”? (White guilt aside) How many of them will rush to vote for “the first female president”? After all she has as big a string of “accomplishments” that Obama had. NONE.

Yeah, it was a payoff to be Sec State. Obama needed the Hillary! acolytes. If they stayed home, would he have won?

GarandFan on March 2, 2014 at 4:57 PM

And then there’s Bill:

Bill Clinton Pictured Posing with Two Prostitutes at Star-Studded Charity Event in His Honor

Warning to prostitutes: the Clintons pay for nothing, ever.

slickwillie2001 on March 2, 2014 at 4:57 PM

She must be close to the Guinness record for frequent flier miles?

dogsoldier on March 2, 2014 at 4:58 PM

There is documented proof of her participation in the political strategy meeting that ultimately led to her appearance in that pink suit to claim utter victimhood. There is documented proof that she supported the “nuts and sluts” strategy that sought to make Bill’s accusers into unhinged flighty women (until, of course, one of the nuts had DNA evidence).

Happy Nomad on March 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM

I mentioned upthread that NOW attacked the Clintons in 1999 for using the “sluts and nuts” defense. They even issued a press release about it.

NOW Calls on Clinton to Foreswear “Nuts or Sluts” Defense

http://www.now.org/press/02-99/02-25-99.html

But guess what? In the past few days, that press release has magically disappeared from the NOW website! Now when you click on that link above, you are instead redirected to the NOW home page.

Dr. Goebbels is looking up and smiling.‎

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2014 at 5:02 PM

By taking the job, she accomplished holding the fragile demcorat base together. Does that count?

SouthernGent on March 2, 2014 at 5:05 PM

She and Bill together saved at least two other people from having miserable marriage partners. Does that count?

BL@KBIRD on March 2, 2014 at 5:06 PM

It doesn’t matter that she screwed up every relationship we had going in. She has amassed so many honors since she quit because the dems, the media and the idiot who walk among us believe it’s her turn to sit in the oval. Like Obama and the inability to criticize without the racist label being tossed, anyone who questions her competence will be labeled a sexist by the media and the dems. It’s already starting. The GOP are again the ist party. Racist, sexist. We are doomed as a country. When Romney lost I gave up all hope. I hate my fellow Americans.

fishstick on March 2, 2014 at 5:07 PM

It really doesn’t matter what she did or didn’t do. Unless the GOP pulls its head out of its collective rectum and nominates a skilled conservative instead of yet another RINO squish, she will be our next president. The media will see to that.

Shadow on March 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM

She and Bill together saved at least two other people from having miserable marriage partners. Does that count?

BL@KBIRD on March 2, 2014 at 5:06 PM

LOL.

I always felt very sorry for Chelsea (whether or not Bubba is her biological father), but she probably lives in an artificial bubble largely immune to the usual shame that such evil individuals normally pass along to their children …

ShainS on March 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Please God no…

2Tru2Tru on March 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM

You have to set metrics to judge an outcome. First, you must define the job of the Secretary of State. From there you can set goals and apply measurements via agreed upon metrics.

I will be broad in her evaluation. Was there a pant suit joke in there somehow?

1. Her job is to articulate President Obama’s vision of foreign policy. No matter how bad the policy…was she clear and concise.

2. When the policy was not working, which is to be expected, was she able to still put the interest of the US first and foremost……aka thinking on your feet.

3. Did her department foresee events changing and show the ability to work with the military and intelligent agencies…..especially the CIA?

4. Did she understand the role of a diplomat vs. the role of being a bureaucrat?

5. How did she manage her office and staff?

6. Did her office take feedback from the field and challenge her boss (President Obama), when their safety was as stake? Not setting the stage…..but this happens all the time with diplomats in hot spots around the world. President’s see those folks as assets. But, they have a different chain of command and rely heavily on the SOS for advice, guidance and protection. Diplomats are not part of the chain command of the military and intelligent folks. Enough with that.

7. Did she tell the truth, no matter how politically painful, when needed. Don’t expect her to tell the truth all the time as a matter of policy…just not the way it works.

8. Was she respected, hated, liked….by the rest of the world? To be blunt, was she cunning enough to be feared by our enemies.

9. This will sound silly…did she stay sober when deployed? This is a big deal in her position.

I have no idea how these things work, but I read a lot of books and stay at a Holiday Inn for inspiration.

HonestLib on March 2, 2014 at 5:22 PM

She was able to fly all over the place while simultaneously having a vajayjay. That’s some credentials, right there.

Demonized on March 2, 2014 at 5:29 PM

You have to set metrics to judge an outcome. First, you must define the job of the Secretary of State. From there you can set goals and apply measurements via agreed upon metrics.

I will be broad in her evaluation. Was there a pant suit joke in there somehow?

1. Her job is to articulate President Obama’s vision of foreign policy. No matter how bad the policy…was she clear and concise.

2. When the policy was not working, which is to be expected, was she able to still put the interest of the US first and foremost……aka thinking on your feet.

3. Did her department foresee events changing and show the ability to work with the military and intelligent agencies…..especially the CIA?

4. Did she understand the role of a diplomat vs. the role of being a bureaucrat?

5. How did she manage her office and staff?

6. Did her office take feedback from the field and challenge her boss (President Obama), when their safety was as stake? Not setting the stage…..but this happens all the time with diplomats in hot spots around the world. President’s see those folks as assets. But, they have a different chain of command and rely heavily on the SOS for advice, guidance and protection. Diplomats are not part of the chain command of the military and intelligent folks. Enough with that.

7. Did she tell the truth, no matter how politically painful, when needed. Don’t expect her to tell the truth all the time as a matter of policy…just not the way it works.

8. Was she respected, hated, liked….by the rest of the world? To be blunt, was she cunning enough to be feared by our enemies.

9. This will sound silly…did she stay sober when deployed? This is a big deal in her position.

I have no idea how these things work, but I read a lot of books and stay at a Holiday Inn for inspiration.

HonestLib on March 2, 2014 at 5:22 PM

1: most likely as concise as it could be considering its non-existent really.

2: no, she has always per the interests of HRC first. she did this when she was bills puppet master in the 90′s and still does it.

3: no, she has always detested the military chain of command and really made issues of it when she had issues forcing her views on them in the 90′s.

4: I don’t know.

5: earlier reports say she was totally hands off and never gave clear directions, iow setting the stage to blame others.

6: I doubt it, remember she is the smartest and best qualified person so there was no ned to take any action after she made a decision.

7: nope

8: not sure

9: I have suspicions about drinking but nothing I can prove.

dmacleo on March 2, 2014 at 5:31 PM

She padded her resume.

Knott Buyinit on March 2, 2014 at 5:33 PM

I mentioned upthread that NOW attacked the Clintons in 1999 for using the “sluts and nuts” defense. They even issued a press release about it.

NOW Calls on Clinton to Foreswear “Nuts or Sluts” Defense

http://www.now.org/press/02-99/02-25-99.html

But guess what? In the past few days, that press release has magically disappeared from the NOW website! Now when you click on that link above, you are instead redirected to the NOW home page.

Dr. Goebbels is looking up and smiling.‎

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2014 at 5:02 PM

I guess they’re not familiar with the Wayback Machine.

Flora Duh on March 2, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Or will being the inevitable first female president be enough?

Yes, that will be enough. NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, Time, Newsweek, ESPN, AP, Reuters, Every Major Newspaper, etc… will drown the sheeple with glowing “Hill-arity” and demonize all opposition. Even with a female VP on the ticket (Republicans HAVE to do this, and about time) it won’t stop. They could run Condi and Ayotte together and the GOP would be laughed at as reactive panderers. Hillary will be the only “true” woman in the race, and the women and minorities will be there for her, I’m afraid.

MT on March 2, 2014 at 5:42 PM

We managed to not go to war with Bermuda. So there’s that.

Bitter Clinger on March 2, 2014 at 5:47 PM

What did Killary really accomplish at State?

Killary had a single accomplishment as S.O.S. – She was complicite in the murders of Stevens, Smith, Doherty and Woods.

Pork-Chop on March 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Zilch. Now if only Bush, Obama and their parties in congress had accomplished that much. We’d be in much better shape.

rickv404 on March 2, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Secretary of States are perceived to be working closely at hand with presidents on foreign policy. Sort of hand in glove. But, the four years of her term, it seems that she was always traveling the world, not with Obama. As though, the accomplishment was the journey, not the results.

Techster64 on March 2, 2014 at 6:02 PM

No, he got elected the second time because he increased his share of the Stupid Vote, while abandoning the vote of educated people (he lost the college graduate vote in 2012).”

He won because they calculated what votes they needed to steal and where they needed to steal them. They had the parts in place and they accomplished it. The beauty of what they did is that no one would think of them actually stealing an election.

Has anyone ever questioned why the Republicans were so dumbfounded on election night? When there was nothing telling them this was possible. I remember Karl Rove being adamant that the election wasn’t over. These people are pros, real pros, and they were dumbfounded.

The story is the Obama got people voting who don’t normally vote, with some crazy computer program. Well Obama got less votes than in 2008. What he got was Romney, the IRS, DOJ, FEC, and a few election officials in tight races.

This is the only time, in my lifetime, that I actually feel a presidential election was stolen.

bflat879 on March 2, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Hillary met this Administration’s requirements/experience for a Top Job….None

SweetSensationalist on March 2, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Even with a female VP on the ticket (Republicans HAVE to do this, and about time) it won’t stop.

MT on March 2, 2014 at 5:42 PM

I vaguely recall a woman named Sarah Palin being the VP nominee in 2008.

TarheelBen on March 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM

We learned in 2008, and definitely in 2012, that accomplishments and “qualifications”–at least in the traditional sense of the word–have absolutely nothing to do with becoming president. Like him or not, Mitt Romney was likely the most “qualified” person to be president since Eisenhower. The sooner conservatives and the GOP start focusing on electability instead of competence, the sooner they’ll win elections. Same goes for attacking Democrats for incompetence–it simply doesn’t matter.

Yes, I’m cynical, but do you want to win in 2016 or not?

segesta on March 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM

The sooner conservatives and the GOP start focusing on electability instead of competence, the sooner they’ll win elections. Same goes for attacking Democrats for incompetence–it simply doesn’t matter.

Yes, I’m cynical, but do you want to win in 2016 or not?

segesta on March 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM

But we were told in 2012 that Romney WAS the most electable. And I’m predicting we’ll soon hear the same thing about Jeb Bush.

TarheelBen on March 2, 2014 at 6:13 PM

She excelled at turning mass quantities of jet fuel into black smoke and carbon gasses.

WestTexasBirdDog on March 2, 2014 at 6:16 PM

NOW Calls on Clinton to Foreswear “Nuts or Sluts” Defense

http://www.now.org/press/02-99/02-25-99.html

But guess what? In the past few days, that press release has magically disappeared from the NOW website! Now when you click on that link above, you are instead redirected to the NOW home page.

Dr. Goebbels is looking up and smiling.‎

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2014 at 5:02 PM

I guess they’re not familiar with the Wayback Machine.

Flora Duh on March 2, 2014 at 5:41 PM

NOW knows how stupid their members are.

By removing their 1999 condemnation of the Clintons’ use of the Sluts and Nuts Defense, NOW is saying that in 2014 such behavior is totally acceptable, even though it was not acceptable to them then.

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2014 at 6:27 PM

none of this matters– facts, record, accomplishments, etc

BHO saw to that for ever moving forward– it’s now “American Idol” for the White House, a stupid reality/celebrity contest

Hillary has a vagina and that’s historic so she will win the Commie primary with 70% of the vote and 99% of delegates, hands down

She will then waltz to an electoral landslide in the general with 55% of the popular vote

None of this BS matters. Unless we destroy her and Bill ahead of the election, the leftists in the media, and now the tech industry, will suppress all discussion of her incompetence

Just like they did about Barry

thurman on March 2, 2014 at 6:43 PM

She ran up a huge liquor and Jet-A bill.

Gave The Clenis plenty of time to chase tail.

Murphy9 on March 2, 2014 at 7:00 PM

An Empty pants suit !

Lew in Colorado on March 2, 2014 at 7:00 PM

bflat879 on March 2, 2014 at 6:05 PM

bflat I get; 8 is 1 and not sure why the repeat; 7? maj or dom; 9 is an extension of two and I get that.

Am I over thinking your nic?

HonestLib on March 2, 2014 at 7:11 PM

She accomplished growing older by four years, while hanging on to her in yer face, libtard 60′s mind set.

vnvet on March 2, 2014 at 7:11 PM

She has spent a lifetime battling freshness “down there” and only Umma knows if she has succeeded. Now please excuse as I have to throw up.

trs on March 2, 2014 at 7:50 PM

TarheelBen on March 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Yea… tired thinking on my part. The only thing historic about that was the media takedown though. Palin v Hillary would be a lot of fun though, especially now that much of the takedown tactics have been exposed.

MT on March 2, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Ummm…. Killary whacked 4 more completely Scot free?

“Don’t do the crime if you don’t know the Attorney General.”

——- Janet “Barbecue” Reno

viking01 on March 2, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Unfortunately, the last two elections have shown that one doesn’t need to have accomplished much in order to become the next president. She didn’t do squat as SOS…what she has is buckets full of money and buckets full of supporters (i.e. her cronies and people who want favors). That’s the way things work in this country anymore.

scalleywag on March 2, 2014 at 8:11 PM

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