Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on March 2, 2014 by Allahpundit

President Obama has warned Russia that “there will be costs” for a military intervention in Ukraine. But the United States has few palatable options for imposing such costs, and recent history has shown that when it considers its interests at stake, Russia has been willing to pay the price…

The administration could impose the same sort of banking sanctions that have choked Iran’s economy. And yet Europe, with its more substantial economic ties, could be reluctant to go along, and Mr. Obama may be leery of pulling the trigger on such a potent financial weapon, especially when he needs Russian cooperation on Syria and Iran.

“What can we do?” asked Fiona Hill, a Brookings Institution scholar who was the government’s top intelligence officer on Russia during the Georgia war when Mr. Putin deflected Western agitation. “We’ll talk about sanctions. We’ll talk about red lines. We’ll basically drive ourselves into a frenzy. And he’ll stand back and just watch it. He just knows that none of the rest of us want a war.”

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A president who has made clear to the American public that the “tide of war is receding” has also made clear to foreign leaders, including opportunists in Russia, that he has no appetite for a new one. What is left is a vacuum once filled, at least in part, by the possibility of American force.

“If you are effectively taking the stick option off the table, then what are you left with?” said Andrew C. Kuchins, who heads the Russia and Eurasia Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “I don’t think that Obama and his people really understand how others in the world are viewing his policies.”

Rarely has a threat from a U.S. president been dismissed as quickly — and comprehensively — as Obama’s warning Friday night to Russian President Vladi­mir Putin.

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Why did Obama publicly state that aggression in Ukraine would trigger “consequences”? Clearly he was telling Putin to recalculate the potential costs and benefits of an invasion. But Obama was ignoring a simple fact: Putin would incur almost any risk to avoid losing Ukraine. To put it another way: There are no consequences—none that the United States could credibly threaten—that would keep Putin from doing whatever it takes to hang on to Ukraine.

More often than not, Obama has acted like a foreign-policy realist in the five years of his presidency. In his public statements on Ukraine these past 24 hours, he has not. Rather, he has drawn another “red line” that the threatened party feels it’s worth the risk to ignore

Neither side wants an escalation in violence and disorder. The question is how much each side is willing to accept an escalation in the pursuit of its vital interests. And in that equation, Obama and the EU do not hold strong hands.

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“Stop going on television and trying to threaten thugs and dictators,” Graham said. “It is not your strong suit. Every time the president goes on national television and threatens Putin or anyone like Putin, everybody’s eyes roll, including mine. We have a weak and indecisive president that invites aggression.”

“President Obama needs to do something. How about this — suspend Russian membership in the G8 and the G20, at least for a year, starting right now. And for every day that they stay in Crimea, add to the suspension. Do something.”

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“Yesterday, from various media, we heard how U.S. President Obama declared that Russia would dearly pay for her politics,” Yury Vorobyov, the body’s deputy speaker, told an emergency session called to hold the war vote. “I think these words of the U.S. president are a direct threat, and he crossed a red line, he insulted the Russian people.”

The phrase “red line” was no accident, and not one thrown around often in Russia. It was a direct reference to Obama’s much pilloried foreign policy disaster over Syria, something largely forgotten at home but constantly referenced abroad — from Moscow to Tel Aviv to everywhere in between…

The question now is whether Obama can look towards the long-term. Obama has tried to play nice with Russia, and been rebuffed at every turn. Russia will never cooperate on Syria. It will eventually try to disrupt Obama’s “reset” with Iran. Putin has turned anti-LGBT into a tool of foreign policy. Now he is sending troops into Ukraine.

Obama has made dialogue and cooperation a cornerstone of his approach to the world. But what if some countries don’t reciprocate?

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Too much of the Washington policy establishment looks around the world and sees only reflections of its own enlightened self. That’s natural and perhaps inevitable to some degree. The people who rise through the competitive bureaucracies of American academic, media and think tank life tend to be those who’ve most thoroughly absorbed and internalized the set of beliefs and behavioral norms that those institutions embody and respect. On the whole, those beliefs and norms have a lot going for them. It would not be an improvement if America’s elite institutions started to look more like their counterparts in Russia or Zimbabwe.

But while those ideas and beliefs help people rise through the machinery of the American power system, they can get in the way when it comes to understanding the motives and calculations of people like President Putin. The best of the journalists, think tankers and officials will profit from the Crimean policy fiasco and will never again be as smug or as blind as so much of Washington was last week. The mediocre majority will go on as before.

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We didn’t think Putin would do this. Why, exactly? This has often puzzled me about Western analysis of Russia. It is often predicated on wholly Western logic: surely, Russia won’t invade [Georgia, Ukraine, whoever's next] because war is costly and the Russian economy isn’t doing well and surely Putin doesn’t want another hit to an already weak ruble; because Russia doesn’t need to conquer Crimea if Crimea is going to secede on its own; Russia will not want to risk the geopolitical isolation, and “what’s really in it for Russia?”—stop. Russia, or, more accurately, Putin, sees the world according to his own logic, and the logic goes like this: it is better to be feared than loved, it is better to be overly strong than to risk appearing weak, and Russia was, is, and will be an empire with an eternal appetite for expansion. And it will gather whatever spurious reasons it needs to insulate itself territorially from what it still perceives to be a large and growing NATO threat. Trying to harness Russia with our own logic just makes us miss Putin’s next steps…

Putin and those around him are, fundamentally, terminal pessimists. They truly believe that there is an American conspiracy afoot to topple Putin, that Russian liberals are traitors corrupted by and loyal to the West, they truly believe that, should free and fair elections be held in Russia, their countrymen would elect bloodthirsty fascists, rather than democratic liberals. To a large extent, Putin really believes that he is the one man standing between Russia and the yawning void. Putin’s Kremlin is dark and scary, and, ultimately, very boring…

Russia’s next target is eastern Ukraine. Because pessimism conquers all, don’t bet that Putin is going to stop once he wrests Crimea from Kiev’s orbit. Eastern, Russian-speaking Ukraine—and all its heavy industry—is looking pretty good right now. And if you’re thinking “Why would Putin take eastern Ukraine?,” well, you haven’t been reading very carefully.

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Any [Russian] invasion—which is what it would be—of a vast country of 46 million in the heart of Europe, sharing borders with NATO allies Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and Romania, would pose a major security challenge for the United States and other key European powers. Even without further Russian action, allies such as the Baltic countries will be seeking U.S. reassurance. Lithuania has already asked for Article IV consultations under the NATO Treaty in response to a clear threat to its security. These countries likely will also ask for hard reassurances—such as deployments of U.S. and other allied troops and equipment on their territory—as Turkey did in 2012 when Syria shot down a Turkish jet. They will also need help to shore up their eastern borders and prepare for possible flows of refugees from Ukraine. The Baltic states will probably ask for similar reassurances. One can also expect cyber attacks and intrusions, false alarms and an atmosphere of tension the likes of which have not been seen since the worst days of the Cold War…

The break in the West’s relations with Russia is bound to be deep and lasting. The G-8 will be its first casualty with the Western powers likely to reconstitute the G-7 in its original form as a direct rebuff to Putin. Other important international mechanisms —the U.N. Security Council, ad hoc diplomatic efforts on Syria, the P5+1 process on Iran, the Six-Party talks on North Korea, and so on—will be filled with renewed acrimony and dysfunction. Some may break down entirely. Inevitably, there will be congressional calls for sanctions against Russia, which the White House will be hard-pressed to resist no matter how much it may want to preserve the shreds of cooperation with Russia on Iran, Syria or Afghanistan. The West and Russia are in uncharted waters.

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The Crimea crisis will not pass soon. Kiev is unlikely to agree to Crimea’s secession, even if backed by clear popular will: this would be discounted because of the “foreign occupation” of the peninsula. The crisis is also expanding to include other players, notably the United States. So far, there has been no military confrontation between Russian and Ukrainian forces, but if they clash, this will not be a repeat of the five-day war in the South Caucasus, as in 2008. The conflict will be longer and bloodier, with security in Europe put at its highest risk in a quarter century.

Even if there is no war, the Crimea crisis is likely to alter fundamentally relations between Russia and the west and lead to changes in the global power balance, with Russia now in open competition with the United States and the European Union in the new eastern Europe. If this happens, a second round of the cold war may ensue as a punishment for leaving many issues unsolved – such as Ukraine’s internal cohesion, the special position of Crimea, or the situation of Russian ethnics in the newly independent states; but, above all, leaving unresolved Russia’s integration within the Euro-Atlantic community. Russia will no doubt pay a high price for its apparent decision to “defend its own” and “put things right”, but others will have to pay their share, too.

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Born in tandem with the nuclear age, the Cold War was defined from the outset less by outright confrontation than by caution. And with caution came adjustment, compromise, improvisation and at times retreat. As often as not, both sides blinked…

A year later [in 1956], when Moscow sent two Red Army tank divisions to quell anti-Communist protesters in Budapest, killing as many as 30,000 people, the cry went up for action. “What are the West and the United Nations going to do?” one despairing protester asked an American reporter.

The answer: nothing. Counteraction would only provoke Moscow to tighten its noose and perhaps “go back on de-Stalinization,” Eisenhower explained…

Calculations like these are the true prologue to the approach that Mr. Obama seems to have adopted in trouble spots from Syria to Ukraine.

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Ukraine isn’t a country: it’s a Frankenstein monster composed of pieces of dead empires, stitched together by Stalin. It has never had a government in the Western sense of the term after the collapse of the Soviet Union gave it independence, just the equivalent of the family offices for one predatory oligarch after another–including the “Gas Princess,” Yulia Tymoshenko. It has a per capital income of $3,300 per year, about the same as Egypt and Syria, and less than a tenth of the European average. The whole market capitalization of its stock exchange is worth less than the Disney Company. It’s a basket case that claims to need $35 billion to survive the next two years. Money talks and bullshit walks. Who wants to ask the American taxpayer for $35 billion for Ukraine, one of the most corrupt economies on earth? How about $5 billion? Secretary of State Kerry is talking about $1 billion in loan guarantees, and the Europeans are talking a similar amount. That’s not diplomacy. It’s a clown show…

What should we do (or what should we have done)? It’s obvious that the Ukrainians have no faith in their democratic institutions, having staged a coup against a democratically elected president. In that case, the next step is constitutional reform. The existing system has broken down and the people should choose a new one. But constitutional reform has to take into account the prospect of partition. Lviv and Sevastopol have about as much in common as, say, Bogota and Montreal. The West should encourage the Ukrainians to amend their democratic institutions in order to achieve a national consensus, which might mean a different sort of nation. If Crimea, for example, were to vote for partition, why object? If it voted against partition, that would put Putin on the spot. The West would have come off better by getting in front of the events rather than chasing them.

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Russia sees an America distracted: Putin’s Ukrainian gambit was a shock to the U.S. foreign policy establishment. They prefer talking about China, or participating in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. Russia sees an America vulnerable: in Afghanistan, in Syria and on Iran—a United States that desperately needs Russian support to continue shipping its supplies, host any peace conference or enforce its sanctions…

[Putin] knows that millions of Russians will cheer him as a hero if he returns them Crimea. He knows that European bureaucrats will issue shrill statements and then get back to business helping Russian elites buy London town houses and French chateaux. He knows full well that the United States can no longer force Europe to trade in a different way. He knows full well that the United States can do nothing beyond theatrical military maneuvers at most.

This is why Vladimir Putin just invaded Crimea.

He thinks he has nothing to lose.

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“He is not going to gain by this,” Kerry continued. “He may be able to have his troops for some period of time in Crimea unless he resolves this. But the fact is, he’s going to lose on the international stage, Russia is going to lose, the Russian people are going to lose. He’s going to lose all of the glow that came out of the Olympics, his $60 billion extravaganza. He is not going to have a Sochi G8. He may not even remain in the G8 if this continues. He may find himself with asset freezes on Russian business, American business may pull back. There may be a further tumble of the ruble. There’s a huge price to pay. The United States is united, Russia is isolated. That is not a position of strength.”

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“Do you have any indication at all that President Putin is taking heed of what President Obama is saying?”

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If you look at the White House read out, which I encourage everybody to read and try and piece through the gobbledegook, Obama said Russia was “violating international law.” That’s just about the most serious thing in the world to Barack Obama and its probably on a long list of priorities for Putin, something pretty close to the bottom.


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canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:34 PM

My fools like whatever I’m eating-unless it’s veggies.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:35 PM

ALT: Thank Gawd,..I would snap,..if one of my cats were a Veggy Activist:0

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:54 PM

What is this “Oscars” you speak of? ;)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Oops, just saw your snark, Scrumpy :) See below

They’re wieners, you never heard of Oscar Meyer wieiners?

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:47 PM

I guess most of them are!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:54 PM

O

h. Cheryl’s brother. Poor guy. But it’s better this way. I’d want them to pull the plug if it meant I’d have to wear a bag or had brain damage. One day he’s fine, the next complaining about mild abdominal pain. 36 days later, dead.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Did they ever say what happened?

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:54 PM

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:47 PM

I am a vegan from Vegania!! So :P

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM

I’m 43. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:52 PM

purrrrfect!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM

Fenris on March 2, 2014 at 9:38 PM

I’m 43. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:52 PM

So, yes, a good 10 years younger than me. I shall continue to use “young lady” with impunity (with impunity because this is the internet and you can’t do anything about it).

Fenris on March 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:39 PM

thanks, Canada

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:43 PM

22044:Anytime,..I’d be lost without my News Sites:0

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM

You’re in your early 80′s?
You look older than that.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:53 PM

81.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

I just noticed that Harrison Ford has an earring.
Harrison Ford is 71 going on 72.
An earring?
WTF?

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

I am a vegan from Vegania!! So :P

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM

Don’t eat me, I have a wife and kids. Eat them!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Springfield, Mo, early 80s.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:51 PM

You know, I vaguely recall that incident. Disco was on its way out, but this spectacular young lad in Springfield was being hailed as the next John Travolta, with his flashy moves on the dance floor. Alas, one day his shoe slipped off during an exaggerated Conga line maneuver and killed two people in the audience.

He went by the name “Danceman.”

No one ever heard anything more about him after that fateful night …

Alien on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Did they ever say what happened?

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Nope. Just a hole in his ‘colon’. Then the pneumonia that wouldn’t go away.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

I ain’t young-and I ain’t no lady!

*Shut up, Lance!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:37 PM

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How many ‘females of the species’ would publicly say that, and mean it ?

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 9:49 PM

A large number of women will do that, the ones that have class and integrity. :)

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Did they ever say what happened?

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Beat me to asking that.

(waits with bated breath)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:57 PM

OC:Lol,… Boy did one of my Canadian Beavers give a leer,
at your comment, heading out to knaw on a tree!:)

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Sorry Bro’
I couldn’t resist. It was a piss-poor joke…

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 9:57 PM

Thanks for covering for me1

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:51 PM

No prob…this time. You only get to make noob mistakes for so long.

cozmo on March 2, 2014 at 9:57 PM

tommy71 on March 2, 2014 at 9:53 PM

It’s not that no one can, it’s that no one will.

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 9:57 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM

Yesterday, my son introduced me to his new girlfriend.
She thinks that I’m cool.
That doesn’t speak highly of her judgement. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

He went by the name “Danceman.”

No one ever heard anything more about him after that fateful night …

Alien on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

And his sidekick Tweeter.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:47 PM

I am a vegan from Vegania!! So :P

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM

Nobody said you had to eat them, just hear about them. Much better than what is called the Oscars these days.

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Listening to my local wacko bird radio station.
They got rid of the annoying drunk driving & Let’s Move w/ Moochelle commercials so it’s a little better.

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

You’re welcome, but it still goes on your permanent record.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Oh great, that list is getting to be longer than Santa Claus’ to do list!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

A large number of women will do that, the ones that have class and integrity. :)

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

But of course..a lady trumps all.

Theadora on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

I ain’t young-and I ain’t no lady!

*Shut up, Lance!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:37 PM
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How many ‘females of the species’ would publicly say that, and mean it ?

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 9:49 PM

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A large number of women will do that, the ones that have class and integrity. :)

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

.
I’d best save that one as a .rtf file . . . could be useful, later.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 9:59 PM

Don’t eat me, I have a wife and kids. Eat them!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

A friend in need …

Alien on March 2, 2014 at 10:00 PM

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Lol…. I am really a carnivore but don’t tell the alien that, mmmm ‘k? ;D

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:00 PM

That episode blow’d.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 10:00 PM

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Sorry Bro’
I couldn’t resist. It was a piss-poor joke…

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 9:57 PM

OC: No…no, its okay,…I’m still chuckling, hehe!:)

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:01 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

IDK, sounds pretty good to me. If she agrees with you, she will probably keep him in line!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM

Theadora on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Funnily enough, I’ve never been accused of being a lady….wonder why that is?

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM

You’re welcome, but it still goes on your permanent record.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 9:53 PM

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Oh great, that list is getting to be longer than Santa Claus’ to do list!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

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If you go a certain length of time with no more infractions, it comes off your record . . . . . but you’ll have to get the details from cosmo.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:52 PM

gotcha….

:)

cmsinaz on March 2, 2014 at 10:03 PM

I’d best save that one as a .rtf file . . . could be useful, later.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 9:59 PM

I’m sure it will be. ;)

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:03 PM

A little Lyle

Fenris on March 2, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Lol…. I am really a carnivore but don’t tell the alien that, mmmm ‘k? ;D

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:00 PM

We could have a contest. First, you try to eat me. Then, I will … win.

Alien on March 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM

<blockquoteFunnily enough, I’ve never been accused of being a lady….wonder why that is?

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM

Because no one did it with Belle Star or Annie Oakley either!

Theadora on March 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM

Funnily enough, I’ve never been accused of being a lady….wonder why that is?

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM

Your in TX, your a “gal” or “cowgirl” or “maam”.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM

Listening to my local wacko bird radio station.
They got rid of the annoying drunk driving & Let’s Move w/ Moochelle commercials so it’s a little better.

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

22044: Your probably now going to get,..Font size on labels PA’s
from FLOTUS!:)

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 10:00 PM

I guess we will hear all about it tomorrow eh, the walker groan thread…

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Don’t eat me, I have a wife and kids. Eat them!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

ROTFLMBO!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 10:05 PM

If we continue to depict weakness like this, pretty soon we can expect China to make a move on Taiwan. Not good.

tommy71 on March 2, 2014 at 10:06 PM

They’re wieners, you never heard of Oscar Meyer wieiners?

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:47 PM

I guess most of them are!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:54 PM

It’s Hollywood, you would expect anything less?

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:06 PM

If you go a certain length of time with no more infractions, it comes off your record . . . . . but you’ll have to get the details from cosmo.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM

Sorta like that last speeding ticket I got. OK. But, cosmo is a pretty hard case, will he give me leniency?

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:06 PM

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Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 7m

Foreign Affairs Cmte Chair Royce: Putin’s actions in the next few days will determine just how badly the relationship becomes. #Ukraine
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Foreign Affairs Cmte Chair Royce: Russia’s aggression has already set back Russia’s relations with the US & our allies. #Ukraine
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Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 8m

Foreign Affairs Cmte Chair Royce says if the US doesn’t act “Putin will be emboldened to take more far-reaching action.” #Ukraine

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:06 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM

It’s Ma’am if you know what’s good for you.

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:06 PM

I guess we will hear all about it tomorrow eh, the walker groan thread…

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Plenty to groan about. Unless the season runs long, it’s gonna suck for the most part. I almost miss the Governor at this point.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 10:07 PM

OC: No…no, its okay,…I’m still chuckling, hehe!:)

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:01 PM

When I first moved to San Diego in the early eighties a large number of pet dogs went missing. The carcass of a German Shepherd was found in a dumpster that had been stuffed with race. It was blamed on Filipino immigrants…

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 10:07 PM

<blockquoteFunnily enough, I’ve never been accused of being a lady….wonder why that is?

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM

Because no one did it with Belle Star or Annie Oakley either!

Theadora on March 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM

That would fit then!

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:07 PM

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Lol…. I am really a carnivore but don’t tell the alien that, mmmm ‘k? ;D

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Tell who what? ;)

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:08 PM

been stuffed with race rice. It was blamed on Filipino immigrants…

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 10:07 PM

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 10:08 PM

Ed O’Keefe ‏@edatpost 8m

House Foreign Affairs Committee schedules first congressional hearing on crisis in #Ukraine for Thursday @ 9:30am

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:08 PM

Alien on March 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, no I win… :) I am super hungry…

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM

I’m baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Hi, Babe.

Solaratov on March 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM

If we continue to depict weakness like this, pretty soon we can expect China to make a move on Taiwan. Not good.

tommy71 on March 2, 2014 at 10:06 PM

All part of the new liberal dis-order. Relax, what could go wrong? Once these regimes get what they want, we can all sit around the campfire and sings songs together!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:04 PM

It’s Ma’am if you know what’s good for you.

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:06 PM

What if you don’t know what’s good for you, what do you they call you then? ;)

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM

It’s Ma’am if you know what’s good for you.

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:06 PM

OK lady. I mean Ma’am!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:10 PM

I’m info hunting this:????

Josh ‏@jjprussell 21m

USS George Bush on high alert.. #Ukraine
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canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Going wild and crazy tonight. Onto my 2nd bag of tea.

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Ed O’Keefe ‏@edatpost 8m

House Foreign Affairs Committee schedules first congressional hearing on crisis in #Ukraine for Thursday @ 9:30am

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:08 PM

F’ing idiots. By Thursday it will be all over.

Barred on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Present and accounted for!

I’m baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

<<<<<<falls down….OMG…welcome home!!!
we have been so worried….
someone needs to take you over a knee for this one..
glad you weren't in the BHO gulag…
welcome home Sophie… :o)

going2mars on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

If you go a certain length of time with no more infractions, it comes off your record . . . . . but you’ll have to get the details from cosmo.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM

.
Sorta like that last speeding ticket I got. OK. But, cosmo is a pretty hard case, will he give me leniency?

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:06 PM

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Not since you just kinda’ ‘solicited’ for it . . . . . in fact, that might double your time. Remember … “hard case”.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Lately it’s been “What the f*** you crazy b***ch?”

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

…been stuffed with race rice. It was blamed on Filipino immigrants…

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 10:07 PM

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 10:08 PM

I liked the mistake, race, rice lol…

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Barred on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Naw, it will be like Issa’s IRS hearings, they will beat the dead horse for months, then Obama will tell us there was not a smidgen of invasion or aggression.

Relax and go get a beer with your EBT /

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Going wild and crazy tonight. Onto my 2nd bag of tea.

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

You’re a tea bagger brewer too then eh?

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:01 PM

When I first moved to San Diego in the early eighties a large number of pet dogs went missing. The carcass of a German Shepherd was found in a dumpster that had been stuffed with race. It was blamed on Filipino immigrants…

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 10:07 PM

OC: I hear ya, this needs a tune:)

ted nugent cat scratch fever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW8S58CYQqs

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Not since you just kinda’ ‘solicited’ for it . . . . . in fact, that might double your time. Remember … “hard case”.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Doomed! I’m Doomed I tell you!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Wasn’t there a VP candidate who was mocked when she predicted this would happen 6 years ago?

Brock Robamney on March 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

They’re wieners, you never heard of Oscar Meyer wieiners?

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 9:47 PM
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I guess most of them are!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:54 PM

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It’s Hollywood, you would expect anything less?

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:06 PM

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In Hollywood, they’d probably prefer “Anthony Wieners”.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Putin is gonna walk all over the Ukraine, and I do not want us to get into another pissing contest with any one… enough is enough.

Obama won’t do a damn thing, he’s incompetent.

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Lately it’s been “What the f*** you crazy b***ch?”

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Sounds like a monthly thing or somethin’

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

22044: Your probably now going to get,..Font size on labels PA’s
from FLOTUS!:)

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Yikes!!! Michelle, the Shake Shack is in Arlington, not here!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

What if you don’t know what’s good for you, what do you they call you then? ;)

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Joe Biden.

ToddPA on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Lately it’s been “What the f*** you crazy b***ch?”

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

LOL Doesn’t fit you but I know quite a few that would fit extremely well. At least you would know what to do with them. :)

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Wasn’t there a VP candidate who was mocked when she predicted this would happen 6 years ago?

Brock Robamney on March 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

I’m tired of Bronco Bama!

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 10:16 PM

Wasn’t there a VP candidate who was mocked when she predicted this would happen 6 years ago?

Brock Robamney on March 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Shhhhh! We don’t want to wake the hagfish!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

What if you don’t know what’s good for you, what do you they call you then? ;)

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Joe Biden.

ToddPA on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

That’s a shooting offense.

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

“hard case”.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

And you spell that: C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-T.

Even a boob noob should be able to figure that one out.

cozmo on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Wasn’t there a VP candidate who was mocked when she predicted this would happen 6 years ago?

Brock Robamney on March 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Sure was, shame no one on the left heard her speak…

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Oh, hon, I’m way past the monthly thing. This is more of a grumpy old age thing. :)

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Going wild and crazy tonight. Onto my 2nd bag of tea.

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

You’re a tea bagger brewer too then eh?

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Scrumpy:Lol,..I’m om my third:0

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Just great. The serpent is conning Eve into eating apples.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM

You’re a tea bagger brewer too then eh?

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

For sure – and wondering how bad the storm on the east coast will be. Again.

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 10:19 PM

“hard case”.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

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And you spell that: C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-T.

Even a boob noob should be able to figure that one out.

cozmo on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

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( oh crap . . . )

Damn it captnjoe, look how much trouble you just got me into.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 10:19 PM

Scrumpy:Lol,..I’m om my third:0

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

You’re hardcore then. Nice. :)

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:19 PM

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Prolly on my 12th of the day, that’s why I drink decaf tea…and prolly 3 more to go!!

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:19 PM

Putin is gonna walk all over the Ukraine, and I do not want us to get into another pissing contest with any one… enough is enough.

Obama won’t do a damn thing, he’s incompetent.

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

obama will pee his pants and that’s the end of the pissing contest.

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Relax and go get a beer with your EBT /

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Man, done blew all my EBT money at the pot house, won’t be refilled until the 15th. I be in a world of hurt./

Barred on March 2, 2014 at 10:21 PM

Even a boob noob should be able to figure that one out.

cozmo on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

*narrowing my eyes at that comment*

Capitalist? Fine, let’s talk commerce. How much does forgiveness cost?

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:21 PM

Dammit! You told me I was your girlfriend!

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

You actually believed someone named “Lance”?

Jeez, Lady!

Solaratov on March 2, 2014 at 10:21 PM

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

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obama will pee his pants and that’s the end of the pissing contest.

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM

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Well stated . . . : )

listens2glenn on March 2, 2014 at 10:21 PM

<blockquotePutin is gonna walk all over the Ukraine, and I do not want us to get into another pissing contest with any one… enough is enough.

Obama won’t do a damn thing, he’s incompetent.

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM

I have more masculine navel lint.

Theadora on March 2, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Hi All.

Is Sophie still around? Saw her check-in on page 1 but I’m a bit late tonight. Was stuck on the marbles thread.

My wife liked the USS Obama, so I’ve reposted it for anyone who missed it. h/t canopfor

My Little Sock Puppet on March 2, 2014 at 10:22 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:21 PM

If you have to ask…

cozmo on March 2, 2014 at 10:22 PM

This is more of a grumpy old age thing. :)

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

I know all about that!! lol ;)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Shhhhh! We don’t want to wake the hagfish!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Let not that happen…

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 10:23 PM

onesheep on March 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM

You mean he hasn’t changed his pants at least 10 times already?

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Oh, hon, I’m way past the monthly thing. This is more of a grumpy old age thing. :)

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 10:17 PM

lmao

TMI lady… I mean Ma’am. But I do like crazy!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 10:23 PM

My wife liked the USS Obama, so I’ve reposted it for anyone who missed it. h/t canopfor

My Little Sock Puppet on March 2, 2014 at 10:22 PM

That’s too cool to pass up!! Thanks for posting :)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 10:24 PM

When can we finally get back to a gay QOTD?

faraway on March 2, 2014 at 10:24 PM

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