Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on March 2, 2014 by Allahpundit

President Obama has warned Russia that “there will be costs” for a military intervention in Ukraine. But the United States has few palatable options for imposing such costs, and recent history has shown that when it considers its interests at stake, Russia has been willing to pay the price…

The administration could impose the same sort of banking sanctions that have choked Iran’s economy. And yet Europe, with its more substantial economic ties, could be reluctant to go along, and Mr. Obama may be leery of pulling the trigger on such a potent financial weapon, especially when he needs Russian cooperation on Syria and Iran.

“What can we do?” asked Fiona Hill, a Brookings Institution scholar who was the government’s top intelligence officer on Russia during the Georgia war when Mr. Putin deflected Western agitation. “We’ll talk about sanctions. We’ll talk about red lines. We’ll basically drive ourselves into a frenzy. And he’ll stand back and just watch it. He just knows that none of the rest of us want a war.”

***

A president who has made clear to the American public that the “tide of war is receding” has also made clear to foreign leaders, including opportunists in Russia, that he has no appetite for a new one. What is left is a vacuum once filled, at least in part, by the possibility of American force.

“If you are effectively taking the stick option off the table, then what are you left with?” said Andrew C. Kuchins, who heads the Russia and Eurasia Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “I don’t think that Obama and his people really understand how others in the world are viewing his policies.”

Rarely has a threat from a U.S. president been dismissed as quickly — and comprehensively — as Obama’s warning Friday night to Russian President Vladi­mir Putin.

***

Why did Obama publicly state that aggression in Ukraine would trigger “consequences”? Clearly he was telling Putin to recalculate the potential costs and benefits of an invasion. But Obama was ignoring a simple fact: Putin would incur almost any risk to avoid losing Ukraine. To put it another way: There are no consequences—none that the United States could credibly threaten—that would keep Putin from doing whatever it takes to hang on to Ukraine.

More often than not, Obama has acted like a foreign-policy realist in the five years of his presidency. In his public statements on Ukraine these past 24 hours, he has not. Rather, he has drawn another “red line” that the threatened party feels it’s worth the risk to ignore

Neither side wants an escalation in violence and disorder. The question is how much each side is willing to accept an escalation in the pursuit of its vital interests. And in that equation, Obama and the EU do not hold strong hands.

***

“Stop going on television and trying to threaten thugs and dictators,” Graham said. “It is not your strong suit. Every time the president goes on national television and threatens Putin or anyone like Putin, everybody’s eyes roll, including mine. We have a weak and indecisive president that invites aggression.”

“President Obama needs to do something. How about this — suspend Russian membership in the G8 and the G20, at least for a year, starting right now. And for every day that they stay in Crimea, add to the suspension. Do something.”

***

“Yesterday, from various media, we heard how U.S. President Obama declared that Russia would dearly pay for her politics,” Yury Vorobyov, the body’s deputy speaker, told an emergency session called to hold the war vote. “I think these words of the U.S. president are a direct threat, and he crossed a red line, he insulted the Russian people.”

The phrase “red line” was no accident, and not one thrown around often in Russia. It was a direct reference to Obama’s much pilloried foreign policy disaster over Syria, something largely forgotten at home but constantly referenced abroad — from Moscow to Tel Aviv to everywhere in between…

The question now is whether Obama can look towards the long-term. Obama has tried to play nice with Russia, and been rebuffed at every turn. Russia will never cooperate on Syria. It will eventually try to disrupt Obama’s “reset” with Iran. Putin has turned anti-LGBT into a tool of foreign policy. Now he is sending troops into Ukraine.

Obama has made dialogue and cooperation a cornerstone of his approach to the world. But what if some countries don’t reciprocate?

***

Too much of the Washington policy establishment looks around the world and sees only reflections of its own enlightened self. That’s natural and perhaps inevitable to some degree. The people who rise through the competitive bureaucracies of American academic, media and think tank life tend to be those who’ve most thoroughly absorbed and internalized the set of beliefs and behavioral norms that those institutions embody and respect. On the whole, those beliefs and norms have a lot going for them. It would not be an improvement if America’s elite institutions started to look more like their counterparts in Russia or Zimbabwe.

But while those ideas and beliefs help people rise through the machinery of the American power system, they can get in the way when it comes to understanding the motives and calculations of people like President Putin. The best of the journalists, think tankers and officials will profit from the Crimean policy fiasco and will never again be as smug or as blind as so much of Washington was last week. The mediocre majority will go on as before.

***

We didn’t think Putin would do this. Why, exactly? This has often puzzled me about Western analysis of Russia. It is often predicated on wholly Western logic: surely, Russia won’t invade [Georgia, Ukraine, whoever's next] because war is costly and the Russian economy isn’t doing well and surely Putin doesn’t want another hit to an already weak ruble; because Russia doesn’t need to conquer Crimea if Crimea is going to secede on its own; Russia will not want to risk the geopolitical isolation, and “what’s really in it for Russia?”—stop. Russia, or, more accurately, Putin, sees the world according to his own logic, and the logic goes like this: it is better to be feared than loved, it is better to be overly strong than to risk appearing weak, and Russia was, is, and will be an empire with an eternal appetite for expansion. And it will gather whatever spurious reasons it needs to insulate itself territorially from what it still perceives to be a large and growing NATO threat. Trying to harness Russia with our own logic just makes us miss Putin’s next steps…

Putin and those around him are, fundamentally, terminal pessimists. They truly believe that there is an American conspiracy afoot to topple Putin, that Russian liberals are traitors corrupted by and loyal to the West, they truly believe that, should free and fair elections be held in Russia, their countrymen would elect bloodthirsty fascists, rather than democratic liberals. To a large extent, Putin really believes that he is the one man standing between Russia and the yawning void. Putin’s Kremlin is dark and scary, and, ultimately, very boring…

Russia’s next target is eastern Ukraine. Because pessimism conquers all, don’t bet that Putin is going to stop once he wrests Crimea from Kiev’s orbit. Eastern, Russian-speaking Ukraine—and all its heavy industry—is looking pretty good right now. And if you’re thinking “Why would Putin take eastern Ukraine?,” well, you haven’t been reading very carefully.

***

Any [Russian] invasion—which is what it would be—of a vast country of 46 million in the heart of Europe, sharing borders with NATO allies Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and Romania, would pose a major security challenge for the United States and other key European powers. Even without further Russian action, allies such as the Baltic countries will be seeking U.S. reassurance. Lithuania has already asked for Article IV consultations under the NATO Treaty in response to a clear threat to its security. These countries likely will also ask for hard reassurances—such as deployments of U.S. and other allied troops and equipment on their territory—as Turkey did in 2012 when Syria shot down a Turkish jet. They will also need help to shore up their eastern borders and prepare for possible flows of refugees from Ukraine. The Baltic states will probably ask for similar reassurances. One can also expect cyber attacks and intrusions, false alarms and an atmosphere of tension the likes of which have not been seen since the worst days of the Cold War…

The break in the West’s relations with Russia is bound to be deep and lasting. The G-8 will be its first casualty with the Western powers likely to reconstitute the G-7 in its original form as a direct rebuff to Putin. Other important international mechanisms —the U.N. Security Council, ad hoc diplomatic efforts on Syria, the P5+1 process on Iran, the Six-Party talks on North Korea, and so on—will be filled with renewed acrimony and dysfunction. Some may break down entirely. Inevitably, there will be congressional calls for sanctions against Russia, which the White House will be hard-pressed to resist no matter how much it may want to preserve the shreds of cooperation with Russia on Iran, Syria or Afghanistan. The West and Russia are in uncharted waters.

***

The Crimea crisis will not pass soon. Kiev is unlikely to agree to Crimea’s secession, even if backed by clear popular will: this would be discounted because of the “foreign occupation” of the peninsula. The crisis is also expanding to include other players, notably the United States. So far, there has been no military confrontation between Russian and Ukrainian forces, but if they clash, this will not be a repeat of the five-day war in the South Caucasus, as in 2008. The conflict will be longer and bloodier, with security in Europe put at its highest risk in a quarter century.

Even if there is no war, the Crimea crisis is likely to alter fundamentally relations between Russia and the west and lead to changes in the global power balance, with Russia now in open competition with the United States and the European Union in the new eastern Europe. If this happens, a second round of the cold war may ensue as a punishment for leaving many issues unsolved – such as Ukraine’s internal cohesion, the special position of Crimea, or the situation of Russian ethnics in the newly independent states; but, above all, leaving unresolved Russia’s integration within the Euro-Atlantic community. Russia will no doubt pay a high price for its apparent decision to “defend its own” and “put things right”, but others will have to pay their share, too.

***

Born in tandem with the nuclear age, the Cold War was defined from the outset less by outright confrontation than by caution. And with caution came adjustment, compromise, improvisation and at times retreat. As often as not, both sides blinked…

A year later [in 1956], when Moscow sent two Red Army tank divisions to quell anti-Communist protesters in Budapest, killing as many as 30,000 people, the cry went up for action. “What are the West and the United Nations going to do?” one despairing protester asked an American reporter.

The answer: nothing. Counteraction would only provoke Moscow to tighten its noose and perhaps “go back on de-Stalinization,” Eisenhower explained…

Calculations like these are the true prologue to the approach that Mr. Obama seems to have adopted in trouble spots from Syria to Ukraine.

***

Ukraine isn’t a country: it’s a Frankenstein monster composed of pieces of dead empires, stitched together by Stalin. It has never had a government in the Western sense of the term after the collapse of the Soviet Union gave it independence, just the equivalent of the family offices for one predatory oligarch after another–including the “Gas Princess,” Yulia Tymoshenko. It has a per capital income of $3,300 per year, about the same as Egypt and Syria, and less than a tenth of the European average. The whole market capitalization of its stock exchange is worth less than the Disney Company. It’s a basket case that claims to need $35 billion to survive the next two years. Money talks and bullshit walks. Who wants to ask the American taxpayer for $35 billion for Ukraine, one of the most corrupt economies on earth? How about $5 billion? Secretary of State Kerry is talking about $1 billion in loan guarantees, and the Europeans are talking a similar amount. That’s not diplomacy. It’s a clown show…

What should we do (or what should we have done)? It’s obvious that the Ukrainians have no faith in their democratic institutions, having staged a coup against a democratically elected president. In that case, the next step is constitutional reform. The existing system has broken down and the people should choose a new one. But constitutional reform has to take into account the prospect of partition. Lviv and Sevastopol have about as much in common as, say, Bogota and Montreal. The West should encourage the Ukrainians to amend their democratic institutions in order to achieve a national consensus, which might mean a different sort of nation. If Crimea, for example, were to vote for partition, why object? If it voted against partition, that would put Putin on the spot. The West would have come off better by getting in front of the events rather than chasing them.

***

Russia sees an America distracted: Putin’s Ukrainian gambit was a shock to the U.S. foreign policy establishment. They prefer talking about China, or participating in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. Russia sees an America vulnerable: in Afghanistan, in Syria and on Iran—a United States that desperately needs Russian support to continue shipping its supplies, host any peace conference or enforce its sanctions…

[Putin] knows that millions of Russians will cheer him as a hero if he returns them Crimea. He knows that European bureaucrats will issue shrill statements and then get back to business helping Russian elites buy London town houses and French chateaux. He knows full well that the United States can no longer force Europe to trade in a different way. He knows full well that the United States can do nothing beyond theatrical military maneuvers at most.

This is why Vladimir Putin just invaded Crimea.

He thinks he has nothing to lose.

***

“He is not going to gain by this,” Kerry continued. “He may be able to have his troops for some period of time in Crimea unless he resolves this. But the fact is, he’s going to lose on the international stage, Russia is going to lose, the Russian people are going to lose. He’s going to lose all of the glow that came out of the Olympics, his $60 billion extravaganza. He is not going to have a Sochi G8. He may not even remain in the G8 if this continues. He may find himself with asset freezes on Russian business, American business may pull back. There may be a further tumble of the ruble. There’s a huge price to pay. The United States is united, Russia is isolated. That is not a position of strength.”

***

“Do you have any indication at all that President Putin is taking heed of what President Obama is saying?”

***

If you look at the White House read out, which I encourage everybody to read and try and piece through the gobbledegook, Obama said Russia was “violating international law.” That’s just about the most serious thing in the world to Barack Obama and its probably on a long list of priorities for Putin, something pretty close to the bottom.


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Zombies are coming on-so I’ll be here for a bit after all. Sorry to disappoint.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

You were missed too when you left for so long :)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Why thank you! I guess I did take a long break.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Lot’s of us take long breaks for various reasons…

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

LOL…You think O and Company are going to do any of that?

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 8:49 PM

No.

But you said we couldn’t do anything but saber rattle. “WE” is not us, it is the Emperor and his minions. Don’t lump the idiots in with the intelligent.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

de rigueur on March 2, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Ah … that explains it. Thanks! :-)

ShainS on March 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Ukrainian political crisis
3m
Best supporting actor Oscar winner Jared Leto on Ukraine and Venezuela in his acceptance speech: ‘We are here and as you struggle to make your dreams happen, to live the impossible, we’re thinking of you tonight’ – @ABC broadcast
end of alert

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Mostly because you don’t get internet access in jail.

cozmo on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:49 PM

I thought the SPR was meh.
I finally saw ‘The Pacific’ last month. It wasn’t in the same league as BoB-but it was still a good watch.
I’m a bit biased though-since the husband is former USMC.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

hope the surgery helps long term, my issues were found too late to operate on so I have an idea of how you feel/felt.
sounds like you are getting on comfortably, hope that is correct.

dmacleo on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Mostly because you don’t get internet access in jail.

cozmo on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Aha!! Now the truth comes out eh? ;;))

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Present and accounted for!

I’m baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

A good day turned into a great day.

hawkdriver on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

I’m baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Well it’s about time you finally decided to make an appearance, young lady! Did you think we have nothing better to do around here than to worry ourselves sick that you could have been arrested by the Queen of Hearts and given one of her Verdict First/Evidence Later Trials? Or you could have been abducted by some Arab and been shipped overseas to be part of his harem for all we knew. You could at least have managed to get some kind of Morse code message to us that you still had your head and your honor.

Cheshire Cat on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

“No one ever leaves the KGB.”

Seven Percent Solution on March 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Hey RWM: We were worried about you!!!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Mostly because you don’t get internet access in jail.

cozmo on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Heh…

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Present and accounted for!

I’m baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

A good day turned into a great day.

hawkdriver on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

She should have said “John Kerry, reporting for duty!”

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Sorry to disappoint.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Our good luck!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM

RWM is back! Yay!!!

onlineanalyst on March 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

There’s nothing there worth American blood, even if Barky did jump.

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Texas has gotten hit w/ some gosh awful weather-here it was 80 yesterday but 20 today-but electionday is looking to be pretty good.
Hoping for good turn out…and for Cornyn, Dewhurst, and Neugebauer to get less than 50%

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

She should have said “John Kerry, reporting for duty!”

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM

LOL

ShainS on March 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Cheshire Cat on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

That’s a good way of putting it CC!! :)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 8:56 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

For a first exposure, it wasn’t bad. She gets all the unintentional irony that the movie engenders in the thinking mind.

Example of a post movie observation: Those guys went through all that, that graveyard is so full, and we have Obama defiling the presidency. Sad.

That is a sharp conservative mind in the making, at only 13 yrs.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Glad to hear things are well with you RWM. You got a bunch of new toys here since the last open registration. :)

Murphy9 on March 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Got it nasty here too, sleet hail and freezing rain and blowing like crazy out! Has to be like -12 by now brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, no fear, 70′s by Friday!! :)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM

There’s nothing there worth American blood, even if Barky did jump.

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Where the heck did I mention blood? Your jumping the shark.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Glad to hear things are well with you RWM. You got a bunch of new toys here since the last open registration. :)

Murphy9 on March 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM

A couple have been run off, though. A few more runoffs would be nice.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Great Job captnjoe!! You have a daughter to be proud of!

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Who got run off ?

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Hoping for good turn out…and for Cornyn, Dewhurst, and Neugebauer to get less than 50%

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

I’m hoping that too, for all our sakes.

Sorry about the weather, I guess I shouldn’t mention that it has been low 80′s and low humidity here for the last few days, and that our beautiful spring weather is here as usual.

Oh, and I’m wearing shorts in honor of cozmo.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Sounds like us. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Got it nasty here too, sleet hail and freezing rain and blowing like crazy out! Has to be like -12 by now brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, no fear, 70′s by Friday!! :)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM

How jue like to be TXmomof3? It got all the way up to 0 for her today.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

And I’ve had 2 girlfriends since. Pickles dumped me and my new squeeze brushingmyhair isn’t speaking to me unless I bake some cakes.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Dammit! You told me I was your girlfriend!

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Lance-it was EIGHTY here yesterday.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

had to be close to that today, they said 28, but I don’t think so!!

Wouldn’t like it, nope, not one bit, don’t like what I got now!! :)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Thanks Scrumpy!

Both my daughters are great conservative firebrands. I couldn’t be prouder.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Who got run off ?

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

HillAREwe, LeftoCenter, libtard4life again,

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Dammit! You told me I was your girlfriend!

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Pffftt! He says that to all the girls.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Lance-it was EIGHTY here yesterday.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

It was EIGHTY HERE!

Dammit! You told me I was your girlfriend!

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Quiet, you!

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:02 PM

I’m baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

…I flip on and see this on the second page!…I’m phucking relieved!

KOOLAID2 on March 2, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Dammit! You told me I was your girlfriend!

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

I wouldn’t want to be his girlfriend. Rumor has it that he has cooties.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:02 PM

HillAREwe, LeftoCenter, libtard4life again,

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Ban Hammer run off?

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Oh goody goody!! Didn’t like none of them anyhoo, serves ‘em right for being so dagblamed wrong!!

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:01 PM

LFL was banned.
Again.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM

I’ve got no confidence in our CinC. Sadly, we’ll be better off if he does what he’s best at: being incompetent and ineffectual.

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Pffftt! He says that to all the girls.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Heh. Some of ‘em claim not to be girls!

LFL was banned.
Again.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

I said that. She’s an idiot anyway.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Was 78 here day for yesterday… was supposed to have been 75 yesterday but we got stuck at like 48 and then it dropped like a brick!!

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:01 PM

HillAREwe got the boot? Man, I missed that one.

Barred on March 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Oh, and I’m wearing shorts in honor of cozmo.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Cozmo doesn’t wear shorts!!

It’s always pants free at his house come the weekends ;)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Yeah, I missed it too. When and which thread?

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I’ve got no confidence in our CinC. Sadly, we’ll be better off if he does what he’s best at: being incompetent and ineffectual.

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 9:03 PM

The Emperor is digging us a long term hole in international politics. However your right, if he does anything other than golf, it will be worse.

Did I mention how much I hate his guts yet on this thread? Grrrrrr.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

HillAREwe got the boot? Man, I missed that one.

Barred on March 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

I heard it was a quiet banning.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM

It’s supposed be 41 tomm-it’s only been 3 years, I can still handle 41-then 59, then 66.
I rather have 41 than the 100+ that we’ll have by June.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I wouldn’t want to be his girlfriend. Rumor has it that he has cooties.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:02 PM

He does. But his cooties keep you warm. Sick, I know…

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

HillAREwe got the boot? Man, I missed that one.

Barred on March 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Yeah, I missed it too. When and which thread?

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I heard it was a quiet banning.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Where did you hear that?

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Yeah, I missed it too. When and which thread?

OmahaConservative on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I don’t know. Only heard about it

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:07 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

It needs to said often.

NativeTexan on March 2, 2014 at 9:07 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Ditto!! Keep the 100′s away for as long as possible!!

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Heh. Some of ‘em claim not to be girls!

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Ummm, which way does that comment swing? lol

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Ditto!! Keep the 100′s away for as long as possible!!

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Nuh uh! I want 100s!

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Ukrainian political crisis
3m
Best supporting actor Oscar winner Jared Leto on Ukraine and Venezuela in his acceptance speech: ‘We are here and as you struggle to make your dreams happen, to live the impossible, we’re thinking of you tonight’ – @ABC broadcast
end of alert

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

No doubt these words will be part of the new national anthem of whatever new country emerges out of the chaos…

… No doubt.

*Clinky!*

;)

Seven Percent Solution on March 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Cozmo doesn’t wear shorts!!

It’s always pants free at his house come the weekends ;)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

That’s what I said, shorts = fruit of the loom!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM

HillAREwe got the boot? Man, I missed that one.

Barred on March 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

That one really got under my skin, couldn’t enjoy trashing it at all, just got mad. Good riddance.

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Was 78 here day for yesterday… was supposed to have been 75 yesterday but we got stuck at like 48 and then it dropped like a brick!!

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Scrumpy:Tee-Hee, ….(sarc):0

If Hopey keeps playing politics with KeyStone Oil Pipeline,
rest assure,..that us Canadians,..will line up a third Polar
Vortex Part 3!!
(sarc)

canopfor on January 21, 2014 at 8:16 AM

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

uh oh, posting too quickly again!

come on hot air, get with the program!

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Oh…. am I embarrassed now…

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

*snort*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

I don’t know. Only heard about it

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:07 PM

From whom did you hear it?

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

HillAREwe, LeftoCenter, libtard4life again,

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Yeah, I didn’t know about Killary Loving Pajama Boy

And libfree left. But his mom registered!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:11 PM

I rather have 41 than the 100+ that we’ll have by June.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Ah, the joys of Texas! lol

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:11 PM

From whom did you hear it?

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

I don’t remember. I just know I haven’t seen her since.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:11 PM

You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Yury Vorobyov, the body’s deputy speaker, told an emergency session called to hold the war vote. “I think these words of the U.S. president are a direct threat, and he crossed a red line, he insulted the Russian people.”

Invading Crimea was bad enough, but now they’ve crossed a line by paraphrasing dialog from the movie Slapshot:

Reggie Dunlop: Lard ass Barkley Donaldson. You all saw what happened. Stick down, gloves off, he challenged the Chiefs. Called us names, CALLED US NAMES!

More strongly-worded letters coming, I fear…

bofh on March 2, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Of course you do. You’re ‘special’.
*runs*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:13 PM

OT: Norman Reedus For.The.Win!!!!!

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:13 PM

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

No doubt these words will be part of the new national anthem of whatever new country emerges out of the chaos…

… No doubt.

*Clinky!*

;)

Seven Percent Solution on March 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Seven Percent Solution: Ahems,..lol,..at least it got mentioned.

*Le Clinky*,..some comments are popping up
on Ukraine Twitter:0
============================================

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Ukraine&src=hash

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

And libfree left. But his mom registered!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:11 PM

I’ve always liked libdie and verbaldouche. They’re two of our more intelligent trolls. As in they can at least make a half-assed attempt at justifying leftism.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Oklahoma State is proposing that Canada build a 1000 ft tall wall on our border to keep the canadian/artic cold out!

About bloody time don’t you think mate!?? ;)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

I am sorry that I caused so much concern. I hadn’t intended to go off-grid, but it just worked out that way and was really for the best – for me, anyway.

I’m exhausted and going to sleep. I have an early morning (No up at the crack of brunch tomorrow! haha)

Please tell everyone ‘hello’ for me and I’ll see you all soon.

So Long, Farewell

There’s a sad sort of clanging
From the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple, too
And up in the nursery
An absurd little bird
Is popping out to say coo-coo
(Coo-coo, coo-coo)

coo-coo Regretfully they tell us
coo-coo But firmly they compel us
to say goodnight
coo-coo

To you

So long, farewell
Auf Wiedersehen, goodnight

I hate to go and leave this pretty sight

So long, farewell
Auf Wiedersehen, adieu

Adieu, adieu
To you and you and you

So long, farewell
Au revoir, Auf Weidersehen

I’d like to stay
And taste my first champagne

So long, farewell
Auf Weidersehen, goodbye

I leave and heave
A sigh and say goodbye
Goodbye

I’m glad to go
I cannot tell a lie

I flit, I float
I fleetly flee, I fly

The sun has gone
To bed and so must I

So long, farewell
Auf Weidersehen, goodbye

Goodbye
Goodbye
Goodnight

Have a supercalifragilisticexpialidocious evening!

XOXO, SoRo

Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Of course you do. You’re ‘special’.
*runs*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:13 PM

WHACK!

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:11 PM

The eather sucks- The freedom rocks!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

And libfree left. But his mom registered!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Oh, I really like libfree’s mom! Maybe she will stop by tonight?

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Submitted without comment or snark…

The ‘Incredible’ Thing an 8-Year-Old Boy Did for a Soldier Will Be Remembered For a ‘Lifetime’

Seven Percent Solution on March 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Night, Sophie.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Goodnight, SoRo

Hey, where’s Jack?

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Violent too.
*smiles sweetly*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

SMAK!!

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Oh, I really like libfree’s mom! Maybe she will stop by tonight?

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Heh – I like her too!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Have a supercalifragilisticexpialidocious evening!

XOXO, SoRo

Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Oh Good Night Sophie!!

God Bless you my dear, be safe and take care!!

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:17 PM

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Oklahoma State is proposing that Canada build a 1000 ft tall wall on our border to keep the canadian/artic cold out!

About bloody time don’t you think mate!?? ;)

Scrumpy on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Scrumpy: D*mmitts,,,we in Canada will not tolerate,

Illegal Alein Cold Air,..hopping the Northern Fence,..wait what,..haha:0

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Night, Sophie!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:17 PM

And libfree left. But his mom registered!

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Oh, I really like libfree’s mom! Maybe she will stop by tonight?

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Lest we forget non-nonparisian, Antwerk and Bluegill4Evah.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:17 PM

SMAK!!

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:16 PM

BLECH!

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:18 PM

ladyingray on March 2, 2014 at 9:16 PM

We are women-hear us roar…

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:18 PM

I’ve always liked libdie and verbaldouche. They’re two of our more intelligent trolls. As in they can at least make a half-assed attempt at justifying leftism.

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

More like they are dumb enough to stick around here and get the crap kicked out of them day after day after day…

captnjoe on March 2, 2014 at 9:18 PM

I was never impressed with libby. Always tried to hijack the thread to talk about his race issues or turn it gay.

Like Hot Gas needs help with the latter these days.

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Lanceman on March 2, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Antwerk was down right nice to me last time it was here.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM

We love & appreciate all the Hot Air ladies. Carry on :)

22044 on March 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Goodbye
Goodbye
Goodnight

Have a supercalifragilisticexpialidocious evening!

XOXO, SoRo

Resist We Much on March 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

RWM: Sweet Dreams,…Night RWM:0

canopfor on March 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM

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