Video: Armed men seize two Crimea airports

posted at 8:01 am on February 28, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Not only did armed Russian-speaking men seize two airports in Crimea — one military, the other civilian — they have blockaded the roads leading to them. Helicopters have reportedly started coming in and out of one of the airports. Ukraine’s interior minister Arsen Avakov demanded that Russia stop its “military invasion and occupation.”

It’s coming to a head pretty quickly in Ukraine:

Ukraine’s interior minister accused Moscow’s military of blockading an airport near a Russian naval base on Friday and armed men took control of another airport in Ukraine’s Crimean capital of Simferopol.

In a Facebook post, Arsen Avakov called the seizure of the Belbek international airport in the Black Sea port of Sevastopol a “military invasion and occupation.” He added: “It is a breach of all international agreements and norms.”

The Interfax news agency quoted Russian military sources as saying the incident at Belbek airport was intended to stop “fighters” flying in. However, Interfax later quoted a Russian official as saying that no units had approached the airport or blockaded it. NBC News was unable to independently verify either account.

It’s possible that the very large ethnic-Russian population did this on their own. On the other hand, there’s this from NBC’s James Novogrod:

And this from ITV’s James Mates:

Having helicopters coming into the airport after their seizure makes it pretty clear that the operation isn’t Ukrainian anyway. The Kyiv Post has more this morning (via Canopfor):

Avakov said that Sevastopol’s military airport Bilbek at night was blocked off by the military units of the Russian navy, which is based in Sevastopol. He said the airport is surrounded by camouflaged military troops with no identification and carrying guns. He said they do not hide their Russian affiliation.

Inside the airport there is a group of Ukrainian soldiers and border guards, and Ukrainian police troops have surrounded the outer perimeter of the airport. “There have been no armed clashes so far,” he said.

The navy base is Sevastopol is key for the Russian army. Under agreements signed between two countries in 2010, the Russian military can continue to use Sevastopol until 2042, with an option of extending the lease to 2047.

Some 70 kilometers away from the coast, in Crimean capital Simferopol, another airport was taken over by a group of about 100 plain-clothed men, who went inside the airport and onto the runway.

“The interior troops and police pushed these people first into the airport building, and then out of the territory. No weapons were used,” Avakov said.

He said that after the armed men left, a new group of camouflaged men arrived around 1:30 in the morning. They carried automatic weapons and had no markings. Avakov said they entered the building and stayed int he restaurant.

“They are not hiding their affiliation with the army of the Russian Federation,” Avakov said. “Told by the Ukrainian Interior Ministry workers that they are military men and have no right to be there, they answer curtly that they have no instructions to negotiate with you.”

No armed clashes have occurred yet, and Avakov flatly states that the security forces of Ukraine are no match for military units. However, security forces continue to arrive at both airports, waiting outside the barricades for whatever orders may come. The potential for an armed clash rises the more this standoff continues.

There may also be a new standoff in the making:

All of this is a bit ironic after Eli Lake’s report yesterday on the American intelligence estimate of the crisis:

U.S. intelligence estimates conclude that Russia has no intention of invading Ukraine. This, despite the launch of a massive, new Russian military exercise near Ukraine’s border – and despite a series of public warnings from top American and NATO officials, suggesting serious concern about possible Russian military action. …

“The mere fact of the timing when you consider what is going on in Ukraine and you see the sudden nature of the exercise would cause concern,” this official said. “From an intelligence perspective we don’t have any reason to think it’s more than military exercises.”

The assessment is based in part on the fact that not enough medical units have been ordered to accompany the Russian troops to the Ukrainian border to suggest preparation for war, according to one Congressional staffer who has seen intelligence on Russia. This source also said no signal intercepts have detected plans for an invasion.

Er … suuuuuure.

CNN has more from Crimea:

 


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Spetznaz.

They aren’t effing around over there; here comes Chechnya Part Deux.

Bishop on February 28, 2014 at 8:03 AM

Ukraine better learn to do insurgent warfare soon. Learn IED’s, shoot and scoot, and supply lines attacks.

Oil Can on February 28, 2014 at 8:04 AM

putin = evil with balls
obama = judas goat

losarkos on February 28, 2014 at 8:06 AM

…another…line in the sand coming?

KOOLAID2 on February 28, 2014 at 8:06 AM

Bishop on February 28, 2014 at 8:03 AM

All the former Republics should rise up at once. Bleed the Russians dry of men, money, and equipment.

Hearts on Fire – From the 80′s.

Oil Can on February 28, 2014 at 8:07 AM

This might be why Germany decided to bail on its greenie energy program, they realize playing footsie with Russia for gas is a losing proposition.

Bishop on February 28, 2014 at 8:07 AM

The Evil Empire Strikes Back.

ConstantineXI on February 28, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Alternate headline:Unarmed tyrant seizes American constitution.

celtic warrior on February 28, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Nice shout out to Canopfor

Lsm rather talk about the Tea party and the ‘fractured’ GOP

Smart power in action and politico has a puff piece on Obama as a realist on foreign policy…. what a crock

cmsinaz on February 28, 2014 at 8:08 AM

U.S. intelligence estimates conclude that Russia has no intention of invading Ukraine.

SMART POWER

Walter L. Newton on February 28, 2014 at 8:09 AM

A portent of things to come.

Offhanded on February 28, 2014 at 8:09 AM

Nice reset, CINC Obama and ex-SOS Clinton. Clearly the world really respects a weak, whiny and narcissistic America.

rhombus on February 28, 2014 at 8:09 AM

Ukrainian political crisis
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Photo: Military trucks without markings or plates moving around Sevastopol, Ukraine – @AlanCullison
see original on twitter.com
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https://twitter.com/AlanCullison/status/439345521669709824

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:09 AM

Alternate headline:Unarmed tyrant seizes American constitution.

celtic warrior on February 28, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Obama and Holder have committed more than enough crimes in public to merit arrest on sight.

ConstantineXI on February 28, 2014 at 8:10 AM

Sheesh.

Mini-14 on February 28, 2014 at 8:10 AM

The assessment is based in part on the fact that not enough medical units have been ordered to accompany the Russian troops to the Ukrainian border to suggest preparation for war

…could be… they have ObamaCare…and there aren’t enough medical units!

KOOLAID2 on February 28, 2014 at 8:10 AM

Have they identified the YouTube video that caused this “spontaneous protest” yet?

Seriously, I am not some sort of Ron Paul isolationist idiot but this is one spat where the United States can and should just sit on the sidelines.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:10 AM

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Photo: Troop trucks on a road north of Sevastopol, Ukraine – @markmackinnon

https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/439370334668869632

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:11 AM

Have they identified the YouTube video that caused this “spontaneous protest” yet?

Seriously, I am not some sort of Ron Paul isolationist idiot but this is one spat where the United States can and should just sit on the sidelines.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:10 AM

Exactly.

And I agree with you. While I sympathize with Ukraine, they DID ELECT Yanakovich after all.

Then again, we elected Obama didn’t we?

ConstantineXI on February 28, 2014 at 8:13 AM

LIVE NOW:
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Live video: – Ukrainian President Yanukovych appears at news conference in Russia – @RT_com
see original on youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkFyw6AtEUg&feature=share

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:14 AM

U.S. intelligence estimates conclude that Russia has no intention of invading Ukraine. This, despite the launch of a massive, new Russian military exercise near Ukraine’s border – and despite a series of public warnings from top American and NATO officials, suggesting serious concern about possible Russian military action. …

Just you wait till Obama gets out of bed around 10am and reads THIS in the paper. Boy, is he gonna be steamed!!!

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Key West Reader on February 28, 2014 at 8:14 AM

This might be why Germany decided to bail on its greenie energy program, they realize playing footsie with Russia for gas is a losing proposition.

Bishop on February 28, 2014 at 8:07 AM

That’s actually what this is all really about. Ukraine is about to get into fracking their own gas and oil reserves in a big way. That will eliminate the chokehold Moscow has over them.

ConstantineXI on February 28, 2014 at 8:14 AM

Just you wait till Obama gets out of bed around 10am and reads THIS in the paper. Boy, is he gonna be steamed!!!

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Key West Reader on February 28, 2014 at 8:14 AM

NO ONE will be ANGRIER than him for sure!

ConstantineXI on February 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM

The Russians are setting it up so if an incident does occur they will blame the other side and quickly seize most of the eastern ukraine.

Imrahil on February 28, 2014 at 8:16 AM

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Yanukovych says he intends to fight for future of Ukraine; says country taken over by ‘nationalist and pro-fascists’ representing minority – @NBCNews
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Photo: Ukrainian fugitive President Yanukovych, left, at press conference; 1st time he’s been seen since Saturday – @maxseddon
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canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:16 AM

I’m so glad we got this in exchange of missile defense.

Oil Can on February 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM

I’m so glad we got this in exchange of missile defense.

Oil Can on February 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM

The only part of the military Obama won’t cut is the Domestic Drone Program.

ConstantineXI on February 28, 2014 at 8:18 AM

Vlad to lil bammie….

“U mad bro?”

BallisticBob on February 28, 2014 at 8:20 AM

Ukrainian political crisis
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Yanukovych says he ‘trusted in decency of Western mediators’ when he signed EU-brokered peace deal – @Reuters
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Yanukovych: The armed people have to leave the streets both in Kiev and other regions of Ukraine – @ChristopherJM
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Yanukovych says he was not overthrown, was forced to leave Ukraine due to serious threat to life – @jc_stubbs, @ChristopherJM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:23 AM

From The Guardian (scroll down):

Yanukovych: The time has come for me to say that I intend to continue the fight for the future of Ukraine… Nobody has overthrown me.

6:11 AM – 28 Feb 2014

Russia can claim to be backing the legitimate government of Ukraine against a mob takeover of Kiev.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Just you wait till Obama gets out of bed around 10am and reads

THIS in the paper. Boy, is he gonna be steamed!!!

Key West Reader on February 28, 2014 at 8:14 AM

NO ONE will be ANGRIER than him for sure!

ConstantineXI on February 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM

People, get the terminology right! No one will be (or is) MADDER than Obama.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Let’s see how our cowardly, feckless, clueless president and his equally buffoonish Sec. of State manage this.

Charlemagne on February 28, 2014 at 8:26 AM

LIVE: Viktor Yanukovich holds press conference in Russia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxI7d5aaZ_M&feature=youtu.be

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:26 AM

Russia can claim to be backing the legitimate government of Ukraine against a mob takeover of Kiev.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 8:23 AM

And that would be correct. IMO, the objective here is to grab Crimea as a Russian protectorate no matter what happens in Kiev.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:26 AM

Had started To Clancy’s last book just as this all started to unfold. Wonder if Putin did?

Interesting parallels in some ways

theblacksheepwasright on February 28, 2014 at 8:26 AM

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canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:29 AM

From The Guardian (scroll down):

He [Yanukovych ] said under the agreement the protesters were supposed to hand over their weapons and unblock the streets but that did not happen.

Instead innocent people suffered, he says. They were robbed and beaten in the streets and cultural institutions and churches were destroyed.

It was the mob in Kiev that broke the agreement. Therefore it was a coup and he is still president of Ukraine.

I wonder if he will return, perhaps to Crimea, under the protection of Russian troops.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM

This is akin to Mexican illegals attacking the US. It couldn’t possibly happen here right?

Brock Robamney on February 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM

“President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia broke his silence on the crisis in Ukraine on Friday morning with a statement instructing his government to “continue contacts with partners in Kiev” and to work with international bodies to provide financial assistance for the country.

In the statement, Mr. Putin also said that authorities in the restive Crimean region of Ukraine had appealed for humanitarian aid and that he had directed the Russian government to consider the request, “including possibilities for the Russian regions to provide assistance…’’

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/01/world/europe/russia-ukraine.html?hp&_r=0

Putin aint’ gonna give up the Black Sea…Nope. And he’ll force a deal with Ukraine because it squats on the largest coal deposits in Europe and has a lot of Russia’s pipelines.

Posted this on another thread…here’s the list

As seen from the list below there is 9 players from Ukraine, 8 from UK, 6 from the U.S.A and 8 from Russia. There are several companies from other countries as well, but they are only present with minor amounts.
VikOil (Ukrainian)
Ukrnafta VAT (Ukraine)
Ukrgazbydobuvannya Affiliated Company (Ukraine)
Naftogaz of Ukraine NJSC (Ukraine)
Shebelinkagazvydobuvannya (Ukraine)
Poltavgazvydobuvannya (Ukraine)
Kharkivgazvydobuvannya (Ukraine)
L’vivgazvydobuvannya (Ukraine)
Ferroexpo (Ukraine)
CanArgo Energy (UK)
Poltava Petroeum Company JV (UK)
Europa Oil & Gas Ltd (UK)
Cadogan (UK)
Cardinal Resources plc (UK)
JKX Oil & Gas plc (UK)
Nostra Terra Oil and Gas Company plc (UK)
Regal Petroleum plc (UK)
Hunt Oil (U.S.A)
Vanco (U.S.A)
Chevron (USA)
USENCO (USA)
JV UkrKarpat Oil (USA)
JV Karpatsky Petroleum Corporation (USA)
TNK-BP Holding (Russia)
RAO Gazprom (Russia)
TNK (Russia)
Lukoil (Russia)
SlavNeft (Russia)
TatNeft (Russia)
Gruppa Alliance (Russia)
Alliance Oil Company (Refineries) (Russia)
Kuwait Energy (Kuwait) – Asset was previously owned by Cardinal Energy Ltd (UK)
Kazakhoil (Kherson refinery) (Kazakhstan)
Itera International Energy Company USA and Ukraine)
Itera-Ukraine (USA and Ukraine)
JV Eurogas (USA and Germany)
Polish Oil &Gas Company (Poland)
JV Plast (Greece-Cyprus)
Epic Energy Ltd (Canada)
Capital Oil (Swedish)
Tiway Oil (Norway)

According to the 2008 gas balance, in the current year, the country will consume 75 bcm of this fuel, with 55 bcm being imported, while 20 bcm is of domestic extraction. The level of annual oil consumption in Ukraine is some 20 million tons with the domestic extraction of some 4.5 million tons of oil and gas condensate.

The hydrocarbon resources in Ukraine are estimated at 7-8 billion tons of fuel equivalent. Average annual oil and gas production amounts to 18 billion cubic meters of natural gas and 4 million tons of crude oil and covers 25 % of the demand for natural gas and 13 % of the demand for crude oil in Ukraine. Crude oil and natural gas are imported primarily from Russia, or through Russia from Turkmenistan (natural gas) and Kazakhstan (crude oil). Oil and gas make up to 60 % of the primary fuel consumption in Ukraine, including 40 % natural gas and 20 % oil….”

http://neftegaz.ru/en/analisis/view/7638

Looking at maps of the region it’s easy to see Putin’s motivation.

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 8:32 AM

And that would be correct. IMO, the objective here is to grab Crimea as a Russian protectorate no matter what happens in Kiev.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:26 AM

Exactly. Agree 100%.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 8:32 AM

obama = judas goat

losarkos on February 28, 2014 at 8:06 AM

I’ve got a Judas goat on the other line who has a bone to pick with you about your comparisons.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:33 AM

While I sympathize with Ukraine, they DID ELECT Yanakovich after all.

Then again, we elected Obama didn’t we?

ConstantineXI on February 28, 2014 at 8:13 AM

If you’re suggesting a course of action… I agree. =)

Stoic Patriot on February 28, 2014 at 8:34 AM

Russia can claim to be backing the legitimate government of Ukraine against a mob takeover of Kiev.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 8:23 AM

And that would be correct. IMO, the objective here is to grab Crimea as a Russian protectorate no matter what happens in Kiev.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:26 AM

Yeah…Legitimacy

Putin is throwing down the gauntlet at the EU.

EU has a lot of money tied up in Ukraine energy development…and Putin has China.

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 8:35 AM

I wonder why people don’t get Sochi and Ukraine is all about a Putin power grab. The Ukrainian president went against the people and went to Russia to get free stuff

Brock Robamney on February 28, 2014 at 8:35 AM

People, get the terminology right! No one will be (or is) MADDER than Obama.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Hah! You got your smartass on early this morning :o)

Key West Reader on February 28, 2014 at 8:35 AM

Putin never misses an opportunity to snub his nose at Obama.

nazo311 on February 28, 2014 at 8:36 AM

This might be why Germany decided to bail on its greenie energy program, they realize playing footsie with Russia for gas is a losing proposition.

Bishop on February 28, 2014 at 8:07 AM

That’s actually what this is all really about. Ukraine is about to get into fracking their own gas and oil reserves in a big way. That will eliminate the chokehold Moscow has over them.

ConstantineXI on February 28, 2014 at 8:14 AM

Here’s a link to pipeline maps in the region.

Gazprom
http://www.eegas.com/fsu.htm

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 8:37 AM

Eli Lake is a good national security reporter, but he got played. Getting good reporting from a fast moving situation is all most impossible. At best you get what happened 8-24 hours ago. And gaming what’s happening on the ground in a fast moving situation…. well good luck with that. Right now, public source’s is the best. Any western or American intelligence on the ground would be “burned” and lose direct contract. If this explodes, we’ll need them there. For now, we wait.

flackcatcher on February 28, 2014 at 8:38 AM

Ukrainian political crisis
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Yanukovych: ‘As the president of Ukraine, I declare that Crimea should remain within the territory of Ukraine, retaining broad autonomy’ – @maxseddon
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:38 AM

Don’t worry. These guys are on the case

kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 8:38 AM

Putin never misses an opportunity to snub his nose atwipe his azz with Obama.

nazo311 on February 28, 2014 at 8:36 AM

There, that’s more like it.

Key West Reader on February 28, 2014 at 8:38 AM

Well,……..looks like Russia is running a Yank0B*tch PR
Operation this morning!!

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:39 AM

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 8:32 AM

You mean blood may be spilled all because of dirty filthy oil?

I wonder what the communist bootlickers over at NBC (yeah, I’m talking about you Bob Costas), will have to say about this?

Flora Duh on February 28, 2014 at 8:42 AM

If you’re suggesting a course of action… I agree. =)

Stoic Patriot on February 28, 2014 at 8:34 AM

Obama and his flunkies he sends out need to be asked at each opportunity if Obama will leave office 1/20/17 like he’s supposed to by law.

I just don’t see someone with his background (pure authoritarian) turning the Presidency into a throne just to walk away and hand it to someone else.

ConstantineXI on February 28, 2014 at 8:42 AM

This is akin to Mexican illegals attacking the US. It couldn’t possibly happen here right?

Brock Robamney on February 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM

Drug Cartels in Mexico siphon off Gas from the PEMEX pipelines to sell on the black market…and they are now making incursions across the border.

It’s one reason they voted to amend their constitution to allow foreign investment in energy…They need the money to fight the cartels and rebuild the infrastructure.

So yeah…It’s a problemo

Gov. Perry said that securing the border might mean helping Mexico secure their Guatemalan border.

War over Resources & Energy Security.

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 8:43 AM

Meanwhile back at the Pentagon, we are cutting our army by 20%, we cancel or postpone the F-35. Good timing!

statsmanblack on February 28, 2014 at 8:44 AM

It appears that Russia has moved to take Crimea without a shot being fired. Of course, that could all change if a muslim-Tartar decides to take a shot at a Russian. The Tartars are the 5th column in this.

You have to give the Russians credit for their tactics – they took the government building in Semferopol yesterday, the airports last night, and today they sent the helicopters to the airports they took. Now the marines are surrounding the border posts.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 8:46 AM

They are doing this because they know Obama will do nothing.

gophergirl on February 28, 2014 at 8:47 AM

Now we have to see if this is a “grave” mistake on Russia’s part. Kerry and Obama said it would be…

Aplombed on February 28, 2014 at 8:49 AM

You mean blood may be spilled all because of dirty filthy oil?

I wonder what the communist bootlickers over at NBC (yeah, I’m talking about you Bob Costas), will have to say about this?

Flora Duh on February 28, 2014 at 8:42 AM

As Putin sees it this is Energy Security…a Business decision.

The Europeans and the Chinese are limited in terms of their resources.

Basically he’s got them over a barrel because they don’t have military backup…just money and they’re in trouble anyway…Rome is nearly bankrupt etc.

Europe needs electricity and Coal is faster and cheaper then Nuclear in terms of new plants…It’s also burning cleaner with new technology.

Ukraine has the largest Coal reserves in Europe.

Putin on the other hand has China and cut a deal with them.

Same thing happening in the ME with Israeli offshore exploration and development.

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM

gophergirl on February 28, 2014 at 8:47 AM

If I was mean, I would call you captain obvious. Since I ain’t mean, I will call you racist. Though that ain’t true. Putin would treat any uber liberal community organizer that way.

cozmo on February 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM

Eli Lake is a good national security reporter, but he got played. Getting good reporting from a fast moving situation is all most impossible. At best you get what happened 8-24 hours ago. And gaming what’s happening on the ground in a fast moving situation…. well good luck with that. Right now, public source’s is the best. Any western or American intelligence on the ground would be “burned” and lose direct contract. If this explodes, we’ll need them there. For now, we wait.

flackcatcher on February 28, 2014 at 8:38 AM

This was predictable…To anybody paying attention.

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Vlad to lil bammie….

“U mad bro?”

BallisticBob on February 28, 2014 at 8:20 AM

Lil Bammie to Vlad…

“Naw Bro, I’m flexible.”

Oldnuke on February 28, 2014 at 8:55 AM

They are doing this because they know Obama will do nothing.

gophergirl on February 28, 2014 at 8:47 AM

They? Don’t we ALL know that Obama is a lazy stupid coward?

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM

They are doing this because they know Obama will do nothing.

gophergirl on February 28, 2014 at 8:47 AM

gophergirl:0
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Putin’s Ukraine gambit

By Charles Krauthammer, Published: February 27
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The response? The E.U. dithers and Barack Obama slumbers. After near- total silence during the first three months of Ukraine’s struggle for freedom, Obama said on camera last week that in his view Ukraine is no “Cold War chessboard.”

Unfortunately, this is exactly what it is for Putin. He wants Ukraine back.

Sure, Obama is sympathetic to democracy. But it must arise organically, from internal developments. “These democratic movements will be more sustainable if they are seen as . . . coming from within these societies,” says deputy national security adviser Benjamin Rhodes. Democracy must not be imposed by outside intervention but develop on its own.

But Ukraine is never on its own. Not with a bear next door. American neutrality doesn’t allow an authentic Ukrainian polity to emerge. It leaves Ukraine naked to Russian pressure.

What Obama doesn’t seem to understand is that American inaction creates a vacuum. His evacuation from Iraq consigned that country to Iranian hegemony, just as Obama’s writing off Syria invited in Russia, Iran and Hezbollah to reverse the tide of battle.
(More……)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-putins-ukraine-gambit/2014/02/27/93ca1b26-9fe0-11e3-9ba6-800d1192d08b_story.html

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:58 AM

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Yanukovich: Russia must act, I’m surprised why Putin still silent on the matter – ON AIR NOW http://youtu.be/ZxI7d5aaZ_M #Ukraine

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 9:00 AM

It appears that Russia has moved to take Crimea without a shot being fired. Of course, that could all change if a muslim-Tartar decides to take a shot at a Russian. The Tartars are the 5th column in this.

You have to give the Russians credit for their tactics – they took the government building in Semferopol yesterday, the airports last night, and today they sent the helicopters to the airports they took. Now the marines are surrounding the border posts.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Putin is forcing a partition solution…for the time being anyway.

Stability…It’s what’s for breakfast.

Map of GAZPROM’s Black Sea pipeline dated 2013

“Residents of Bulgaria’s Black Sea city of Varna are preparing to stage a protest rally against the joint Russian-Bulgarian South Stream natural gas pipeline project…”

http://www.blackseanews.net/en/read/67330

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 9:01 AM

They are doing this because they know Obama will do nothing.

gophergirl on February 28, 2014 at 8:47 AM

They? Don’t we ALL know that Obama is a lazy stupid coward?

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM

That and the EU is basically impotent because of their own internal economic problems.

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 9:02 AM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:58 AM

I think Putin is interested in establishing his own counterbalance to the EU…and China is funding it cause they’d rather do business with Putin.

Birds of a feather sort of thingy.

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM

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#Yanukovich: I’m an acting president; I haven’t resigned, I haven’t been impeached, and I’m still alive (3ways a pres could be ousted – IG)
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#Yanukovich: As for impeachment, I will never accept it. I am the legitimate president of #Ukraine. WATCH LIVE http://youtu.be/ZxI7d5aaZ_M
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#Yanukovich: I never signed any of new laws adopted by parliament, they cannot come into force. LIVE STREAM http://rt.com/on-air/ #Ukraine

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Map of major Russian and Chinese Gas fields…

http://themoscownews.com/infographics/20120618/189856957.html

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 9:08 AM

I hear that there are all sorts of guns and missiles available in Libya. I wonder if any of them will make there way into the area.

Hill60 on February 28, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Obama’s probably getting his Red Line Drawer Thingy all ready to go.

BigWyo on February 28, 2014 at 9:11 AM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Yanukovich: I’m an acting president; I haven’t resigned, I haven’t been impeached, and I’m still alive (3ways a pres could be ousted – IG)

But if you don’t control the military and/or the streets of your capital. If you’re cowering in a foreign nation. If you’re relying on “international outrage” for legitimacy……. well, you are a PINO.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 9:11 AM

They are doing this because they know Obama will do nothing.

If those Russians don’t back off Obama is gonna give a speech! He may even draw a red line!

“UNLEASH BIDEN!!”

myiq2xu on February 28, 2014 at 9:12 AM

The photos I’ve seen of the invaders show no insignia of rank or nationality. That’s a no-no.

Akzed on February 28, 2014 at 9:13 AM

Lil Bammie to Vlad…

“Naw Bro, I’m flexible.”

Oldnuke on February 28, 2014 at 8:55 AM

Obama is impeding our independent energy development…and Israel’s.

Flexibility

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 9:14 AM

They are doing this because they know Obama will do nothing.

If those Russians don’t back off Obama is gonna give a speech! He may even draw a red line!

“UNLEASH BIDEN!!”

myiq2xu on February 28, 2014 at 9:12 AM

If Biden is busy…he can send Dennis Rodman

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 9:15 AM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:58 AM

I think Putin is interested in establishing his own counterbalance to the EU…and China is funding it cause they’d rather do business with Putin.

Birds of a feather sort of thingy.

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM

workingclass artist:

Good point(s), and I think the world knows that Obama
is two-faced on deal making!

Krauthammers op-ed above nails it!:)

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 9:17 AM

And BTW, this is precisely the kind of situation where the United States needs to be able to respond to in ways impossible under the Obama defense budget laid out by the Jew-hating Hagel.

I’m not advocating US intervention in Ukraine but pointing out that the kind of future warfare and future threats laid out by this administration is not the kind of conflict that we are watching.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 9:18 AM

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#Yanukovich: #Russia cannot stay indifferent to problems of neighbor #Ukraine. http://on.rt.com/1ldeaa
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BREAKING: I’m not going to ask #Russia for military help – #Yanukovich http://on.rt.com/1ldeaa
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Yanukovich: Bloody chaotic show going on in #Ukraine now, but I’m certain truth will prevail – WATCH LIVE: http://youtu.be/ZxI7d5aaZ_M

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 9:20 AM

But if you don’t control the military and/or the streets of your capital. If you’re cowering in a foreign nation. If you’re relying on “international outrage” for legitimacy……. well, you are a PINO.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Like when De Gaulle left France ahead of the Nazi occupation and their installation of the Vichy government?

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 9:21 AM

I’m not advocating US intervention in Ukraine but pointing out that the kind of future warfare and future threats laid out by this administration is not the kind of conflict that we are watching.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Strongly agree!

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Like when De Gaulle left France ahead of the Nazi occupation and their installation of the Vichy government? Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 9:21 AM

And then, when he came back to France, claimed that it was liberated by the French army.

Q. Why are there so many trees in Paris?

A. Because Germans like to march in the shade.

Akzed on February 28, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Back in the USSR, boys!

albill on February 28, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Like when De Gaulle left France ahead of the Nazi occupation and their installation of the Vichy government?

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Pretty much. Yanukovych may be the “democratically” elected President but the power lies with whoever is running things and that isn’t Yanukovych right now.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 8:58 AM

I think Putin is interested in establishing his own counterbalance to the EU…and China is funding it cause they’d rather do business with Putin.

Birds of a feather sort of thingy.

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM

workingclass artist:

Good point(s), and I think the world knows that Obama
is two-faced on deal making!

Krauthammers op-ed above nails it!:)

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 9:17 AM

Russia and China are securing their investments…That’s one way to look at it. I posted a map upthread.

Dated 2013 (Map of the field at the link)

“Japan has expressed serious concern to China over the construction of a drilling rig near a disputed gas field in the East China Sea.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said Tokyo “cannot accept” China’s development near the area.

The construction is in China’s area, but Japan is concerned China would be able to siphon gas from its side.

A co-operation agreement between the countries had broken down amid confrontation over disputed territory.

The economic zones of both countries overlap at the gas field which the two countries claim exclusive excavation rights to.

They had agreed in 2008 that Japanese companies would invest in the area, but the agreement eventually stalled…”

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-23159436

workingclass artist on February 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM

And then, when he came back to France, claimed that it was liberated by the French army.

Akzed on February 28, 2014 at 9:22 AM

LOL

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Pretty much. Yanukovych may be the “democratically” elected President but the power lies with whoever is running things and that isn’t Yanukovych right now.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM

True. But if he cuts a deal with Russia giving them Crimea he might be back shortly.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 9:33 AM

No worries. We have an administration with a long series of diplomatic successes using “Smart Diplomacy”.

Just ask Ambassador Stevens.

GarandFan on February 28, 2014 at 9:43 AM

U.S. intelligence estimates? Why, sure. We know that is very reliable, do we not?

Techster64 on February 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Global warming is the real threat. Barbarians at the gate, not so much.

steveracer on February 28, 2014 at 9:51 AM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Yanukovich: I’m an acting president; I haven’t resigned, I haven’t been impeached, and I’m still alive (3ways a pres could be ousted – IG)

But if you don’t control the military and/or the streets of your capital. If you’re cowering in a foreign nation. If you’re relying on “international outrage” for legitimacy……. well, you are a PINO.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Happy Nomad:

Lol,…….(PINO),…
…(DINO),…

DickTator In Name Only:)

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 9:54 AM

I gotta feeling that Chuck Hagel’s plan to shrink our military is about to get shelved indefinitely.

myiq2xu on February 28, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Seriously, I am not some sort of Ron Paul isolationist idiot but this is one spat where the United States can and should just sit on the sidelines.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2014 at 8:10 AM

Agreed. If we can’t do anything (and we can’t, physically) then we shouldn’t even start. Maybe lay in a supply of bristol board for stiff diplomatic notes.

PersonFromPorlock on February 28, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Oh, and adult diapers for our leaders.

PersonFromPorlock on February 28, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Liebensraum.History.Forget.Shake.Stir.Repeat. The more things change the more they stay the same. Putin wants his empire back.

Oldnuke on February 28, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Obuma sent his State Department community organizer chick to enlist neo-Nazi agitators to hit the streets in Kiev. Barry played right into Putin’s hands once again. The jackass in the WH believed it was an Occupy Wall Street project and “the media” would carry the day for him. The western Ukraine had better cut a deal with Vlad and ignore the EU and Soetero siren calls of destruction.

kingsmill on February 28, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Crimea Crisis: Russian Parliament to Review New Annexation Law

The bill would allow the annexation of any “territory where people have expressed distinct will and wish to become part of Russia,” Mikhail Yemelianov told Russia’s RIA Novosti. The proposed law would allow Crimea to become part of Russia after a referendum or a vote by lawmakers.

The lower house of the Russian parliament, the State Duma, is also due to draft a law in the next two days allowing Ukrainians to assume Russian citizenship.

Emphasis is mine.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 10:10 AM

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