U.S. assessment of Crimea: This isn’t an invasion, it’s an … “uncontested arrival”

posted at 5:58 pm on February 28, 2014 by Allahpundit

My mistake. I thought the White House might try to make all of this go away by accepting Putin’s phony pretense that it’s a domestic uprising among ethnic Russians in Crimea, not an invasion by Russia. In fact, says the White House, there is a foreign element to the new troop presence — but it’s all good so far because Crimea isn’t resisting.

In other words, to save face over the fact that there’s nothing much we can do to stop this, the official U.S. line is that this can’t be an invasion if the Russians are being … greeted as liberators.

Popehat’s right: “Uncontested arrival” is the best Orwellian euphemism for war since “kinetic military action.” Laying aside the fact that we’re now lending rhetorical support to aggressive irredentism (the Tatars in Crimea are going to “contest” this “arrival,” I’m pretty sure), explain to me why he went out there an hour ago and blathered about his “deep concern” for violations of Ukraine’s sovereignty if we’re adopting the position that maybe Ukraine’s not the rightful sovereign in Crimea after all. I took his statement to be a condemnation of Russian action today, but maybe I have it wrong. Maybe all he meant was that a broader invasion of Ukraine would threaten the country’s sovereignty — although your guess is as good as mine as to how broad it’d have to be to trigger U.S. disapproval. A Russian incursion into the rest of eastern Ukraine might also go uncontested. At this point, if you’re Putin, hearing this reaction from the White House (and crickets from the EU, do note), why not give it a go?

By the way, while Moscow’s digesting the green light it just got from the U.S. to consolidate its gains, Obama’s at DNC headquarters kicking off happy hour for Democrats. I’m not kidding.


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nonpartisan on February 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Heh. The classic “Obama is playing 3-dimentional chess so far above your heads you just don’t realize how stupid you are” defense.

I’ve never seen that one before.

Rusty Nail on February 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM

Only Obama could come up with the phrase “Uncontested Arrival”.

SC.Charlie on February 28, 2014 at 6:07 PM

* Man-caused disaster
* Affordable care act
* Kinetic military action
* War on women
* Shared responsibility payment
* “Most transparent administration in history”

Reminds me of “that depends on what the meaning of is is.”

:double facepalm:

xNavigator on February 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM

I’m sure Bush would’ve said something Macho and done something rash/stupid like getting us into a WWIII with russia

Obama knows this isn’t worth risking America’s blood and treasure and therefore he is setting up the chess board so that America has multiple options when and if it needs to take stronger action

nonpartisan on February 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Is that the same chess board Dog Eater used with Libya? If so then you might want to remind him that the object of the game isn’t to get your pawns to the other side of the board and yell “KING ME!”

Bishop on February 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM

OT, but not really since the Cold War‘s back and Obama’s got ours, ulp: Just this week The Wende Museum in Culver City, CA (The Heart of Screenland!) was approved to move into the old Armory next to the main city park.

Now they’re going to need a bigger building.

de rigueur on February 28, 2014 at 6:31 PM

Hitler had an uncontested arrival in Czechoslovakia.

The Notorious G.O.P on February 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

And Austria before that.

Putin has got Georgia and the Crimea.

Concentrating the ethnics in neighboring countries.

I was the excuse before WWII.

And it is Putin’s excuse today.

ajacksonian on February 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

nonpartisan on February 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM

LOLOLOLOL. Yeah cause his foreign policy chess playing has been brilliant thus far. Were you born this dumb or did you take lessons?

The Notorious G.O.P on February 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Obama knows this isn’t worth risking America’s blood and treasure and therefore he is setting up the chess board so that America has multiple options when and if it needs to take stronger action

nonpartisan on February 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Really? And I’ll this time I’ve been thinking he was a wuss.

lineholder on February 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

nonpartisan just has to be an Allah or Ace sock.

butch on February 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Was waiting for Obama to say that a YouTube video produced in the Ukraine that made fun of Putin was the cause of the Russian invasion…

albill on February 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

What’s he going to do sic the IRS on them. What a poser.

1791 on February 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

The conservative Pavlovian reflex is to suddenly go chickenhawk. If only we’d jump right in and threaten solo military action like Chimpy or The Gipper! That’d show ‘em!

Constantine on February 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Sorry, I am against intervention of any sort.

That doesn’t mean Obama isn’t gutless which is obvious to Putin.

sharrukin on February 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Today, at DNC Happy Hour

Man at DNC yells at Obama: “Tell us about your plan for nuclear war with Russia.” O replies: “What the heck are you talking about?”

aquaviva on February 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

So I guess somebody just invented nukebaiting? Like that’s some sort of accomplishment?

Constantine on February 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

This is what happens in the world when the U.S.A. has a cowardly weak leader who can’t stand his own country.

The Notorious G.O.P on February 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Obama should just keep his moronic mouth shut for a change. All he ever does is make things worse.

VorDaj on February 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

It was the excuse before WWII.

Really need do a quick proof before submitting… sigh…

ajacksonian on February 28, 2014 at 6:34 PM

What do you bet me Putin will be doing some shirtless horseback riding through Crimea to celebrate.

lineholder on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Russian troops enter Ukraine, President Obama and Democrats declare ‘happy hour’

John Ekdahl @JohnEkdahl
These two things are happening simultaneously. 1: https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/439529900777955329 … 2: https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/439530388135084032 … God help us.

It’s after 5 p.m. on Friday in Washington, D.C., so what two things are happening simultaneously? This:

CBS News @CBSNews
JUST IN: David Martin reports Russia flying “hundreds” of troops into Crimea

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Mark Knoller @markknoller
Shifting mood from his Ukraine statement, Pres Obama tells DNC: it’s after 5PM – so it’s Happy Hour with the Democratic Party.

http://twitchy.com/2014/02/28/russian-troops-enter-ukraine-president-obama-and-democrats-declare-happy-hour/

DinaRehn on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Putin is playing chess with Obama and the EU and Putin has already got his next five moves planned out.

Obama has his next five rounds of golf scheduled…

albill on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Its 3:00AM,….and,……………….

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

The conservative Pavlovian reflex is to suddenly go chickenhawk. If only we’d jump right in and threaten solo military action like Chimpy or The Gipper! That’d show ‘em!

Constantine on February 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

All this time Dog Eater has been a conservative. Man oh man, I’ll bet you wish you could have your votes back, huh?

WASHINGTON — President Obama is prepared to move ahead with a limited military strike on Syria, administration officials said Thursday, despite a stinging rejection of such action by America’s stalwart ally Britain and mounting questions from Congress.

But administration officials made clear that the eroding support would not deter Mr. Obama in deciding to go ahead with a strike.

Bishop on February 28, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Obama: “People of Ukraine, if you like your country, you can keep your country. If you like your new freedom, you can keep your new freedom. I will always have your back. No matter what. Period.”

VorDaj on February 28, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Its 3:00AM,….and,……………….

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

…and Obama is just not going to answer the phone. Let the world burn and pretend its all ok.

deadrody on February 28, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Its 3:00AM,….and,……………….

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

I’m sorry, that number is not in service.

ajacksonian on February 28, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Its 3:00AM,….and,……………….

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

…….Obama is safely in dream land.

Bitter Clinger on February 28, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Obama will rationalize that Crimea is the price Ukraine must pay to be rid of Putin, much as Chamberlain did with Hitler and Czechoslovakia.

novaculus on February 28, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Until Putin decides he wants eastern Ukraine too. I wonder if he’s plugged that into his Blackberry abacus.

Bitter Clinger on February 28, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Hitler didn’t stop with the Sudetenland, either. Not long after he took the rest of Czechoslovakia. Then Poland. Then…

novaculus on February 28, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Russia gets a 9.9 in the “Uncontested Arrival” event of the 2014 Winter Olympics.

VorDaj on February 28, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Its 3:00AM,….and,……………….

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Dog Eater is choosing which tie to wear on the flight to Vegas.

Bishop on February 28, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller 13m

RT @chucktodd: Obama aide tells me U.S. and Euro allies are all now considering a boycott of the G8 meeting in Sochi later this year.

Wow. That’ll leave a mark.//

I looked up the date on that G8 meeting. It’s June 4—5. Over three months away. This will be long over by then.

INC on February 28, 2014 at 6:38 PM

The cold war is over. We surrendered.

kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Somebody, already mentioned this ditty:

John Schindler ‏@20committee 3m

This is awkward / MT @MilenaRodban: From 2008: #Russia might invade #Ukraine if Obama wins, Sarah Palin warns http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2008/10/22/russia_might_invade_ukraine_if_obama_wins_palin_warns
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Russia might invade Ukraine if Obama wins, Palin warns

BY Blake Hounshell
OCTOBER 22, 2008 – 09:09 AM
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Speaking Tuesday at a rally in a Reno, Nevada, Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin had a little fun with her counterpart on the Democratic ticket, thanking Joe Biden for warning Barack Obama’s supporters to “gird your loins” for an international crisis if the Illinois senator wins.

Palin helpfully offered four scenarios for such a crisis, one of which was this strange one:

After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama’s reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia’s Putin to invade Ukraine next.

Watch the video here:

As we’ve said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario. And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine’s pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don’t see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel. Watch the upcoming parliamentary elections in December to see if Moscow gets the pliable new government it wants.
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http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2008/10/22/russia_might_invade_ukraine_if_obama_wins_palin_warns

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Hitler didn’t stop with the Sudetenland, either. Not long after he took the rest of Czechoslovakia. Then Poland. Then…

novaculus on February 28, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Then all we’ll need is for Neville Obama to proclaim “we’ll have peace in our time”.

Bitter Clinger on February 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM

I repeat what I said days ago: Russia will annex the Crimea and, perhaps, invade and take the 3-4 provinces along the Eastern frontier, one of which may be returned to the Ukraine to placate the feckless West. The rest of the country, broke and seeking Western welfare, will muddle along…

vnvet on February 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Somehow this seems very appropriate right now:

“If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” — Winston Churchill

DinaRehn on February 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM

nonpartisan….still no proof. None. Nada.Nein.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM

What’s he going to do sic the IRS on them. What a poser.

1791 on February 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Yeah, there’s a nice contrast, huh ?

Obama is harder on rival political groups than former super powers bent on invading their neighbors.

Hey, maybe Fast & Furious 2 would work out. Just let smugglers get away with making straw purchases and then shipping US weapons to the opposition in Ukraine.

deadrody on February 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Its 3:00AM,….and,……………….

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

…..Obama is dreaming of his 3rd Presidential term & his second Peace Prize award.

portlandon on February 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Senator Rand Paul ‏@SenRandPaul 34m

Russian intervention in Ukraine would be dangerous for both nations, and for the rest of the world. http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=1115 …. #Ukraine

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Time for Obama to announce that he wants to raise the minimum wage to $12.50 an hour.

VorDaj on February 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Samantha Power ‏@AmbassadorPower 44m

Link to my statement following today’s emergency #UN Security Council meeting on #Ukraine: http://go.usa.gov/KcVW

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Jim Roberts ‏@nycjim 5h

How a donated satellite dish helped #Ukraine journos analyze and publish trove of #Yanukovych documents. Good piece: http://on.mash.to/1dJ8OPg

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Highly suggest folks check Time’s Zeke Miller’s tweeter.

He live-tweeted Barry at the DNC Happy Hour today. (Heckled, heckling about war with Russia, GOP has no future, etc)

It’s unreal. I thought it was fake. It’s not.

aquaviva on February 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Jeebus…Obama is a clown. I don’t think we can or should do anything militarily to the Russians, but there is plenty we could do to hurt them. Right off the top of my head I can think of two things: put the missile shield back in Poland and increase US natural gas export limits to drive down the price of Russian gas. What a pu$$y.

ReaganWasRight on February 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Samantha Power ‏@AmbassadorPower 44m

Link to my statement following today’s emergency #UN Security Council meeting on #Ukraine: http://go.usa.gov/KcVW

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Oooh, the UN Security Council had an emergency meeting. Must get started on that strongly worded letter.

Bitter Clinger on February 28, 2014 at 6:43 PM

This is freaking embarrassing.

myiq2xu on February 28, 2014 at 6:17 PM

More than five years and running…

slickwillie2001 on February 28, 2014 at 6:43 PM

I’m sure Bush would’ve said something Macho and done something rash/stupid like getting us into a WWIII with russia

Obama knows this isn’t worth risking America’s blood and treasure and therefore he is setting up the chess board so that America has multiple options when and if it needs to take stronger action

nonpartisan on February 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM

And the Treaty we signed with them in exchange for them giving up their Nuclear Weapons means what?

My bad, it only said violence not uncontested arrivals.

Johnnyreb on February 28, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Samantha Power ‏@AmbassadorPower 44m

Link to my statement following today’s emergency #UN Security Council meeting on #Ukraine: http://go.usa.gov/KcVW

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM

That UN, always stabilizing the world!

Glad that worked so well with Libya… uhhh… Syria… hmmmm… Ukraine…

You know, I’m detecting a pattern here.

ajacksonian on February 28, 2014 at 6:43 PM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Okay, THAT is creepy.

lineholder on February 28, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller 13m

RT @chucktodd: Obama aide tells me U.S. and Euro allies are all now considering a boycott of the G8 meeting in Sochi later this year.

Wow. That’ll leave a mark.//

I looked up the date on that G8 meeting. It’s June 4—5. Over three months away. This will be long over by then.

INC on February 28, 2014 at 6:38 PM

The US will be lucky is it’s invited to the G8 meeting. As for our EU allies…we have none as of today.

kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Obama knows this isn’t worth risking America’s blood and treasure and therefore he is setting up the chess board so that America has multiple options when and if it needs to take stronger action

nonpartisan on February 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Checkers is more his game, and I hear his daughters beat the crap out of him regularly.

slickwillie2001 on February 28, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Tweets All / No replies

Sarah Palin ‏@SarahPalinUSA 2h

Yes, I could see this one from Alaska. I’m usually not one to Told-Ya-So, but I did, despite my accurate… http://fb.me/2ckgQiFR4
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/28/Flashback-Palin-Mocked-in-2008-for-Warning-Putin-May-Invade-Ukraine-if-Obama-Elected-President

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

The cold war is over. We surrendered.

kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Obama managed to lose a war won more then 20 years ago!

the_nile on February 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Moscow’s digesting the green light it just got from the U.S.

Thank goodness AP has a hotline to the Kremlin! Otherwise how would we know what the Ruskies are thinking?

Constantine on February 28, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Translated: “I can’t defend my Dear Leader’s incompetence in this manner, so I’ll try and hijack the thread instead!”

I’m sure Bush would’ve said something Macho and done something rash/stupid like getting us into a WWIII with russia

nonintelligent on February 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM

No, somebody like Bill Clinton would do that.

In fact, he almost did.

But after his hand-selected 4 Star General from Arkansaw almost started World War 3 in Kosovo, Clinton had to fire him.

“At the beginning of the Kosovo conflict, CounterPunch delved into the military career of General Wesley Clark and discovered that his meteoric rise through the ranks derived from the successful manipulation of appearances: faking the results of combat exercises, greasing to superiors and other practices common to the general officer corps. We correctly predicted that the unspinnable realities of a real war would cause him to become unhinged. Given that Clark attempted to bomb the CNN bureau in Belgrade and ordered the British General Michael Jackson to engage Russian troops in combat at the end of the war, we feel events amply vindicated our forecast.

F-

Del Dolemonte on February 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Wow. Bret Bair just showed Obama kicking off happy hour

Yea….and people wonder why Obama is not respected….

cmsinaz on February 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Its 3:00AM,….and,……………….

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

And obozo has an uncontested arrival in dreamland via kinetic resting action and is now witnessing the Sandman made contingency operation.

Flange on February 28, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Ukrainian political crisis
1m
Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Ra-Va., calls for sanctions against Russian individuals who interfere in Ukraine’s domestic affairs – @NBCNews
read more on nbcnews.com
==========================

Ukrainian political crisis
8m
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, says US, EU responsible for putting economic, political pressure on Russia to withdraw troops from Ukraine – @NBCNews
end of alert

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:47 PM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

and BOOM.

upinak on February 28, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Oh brother…this is not the Sudetenland, and if it is we have only ourselves to blame for not being prepared.

I remember during the Georgia invasion the U.S. intelligence was completely caught off guard, because we had numerous assets focused on Iraq and Afghanistan.

“Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains (in our case Russia and China) will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue.” Sun Tzu, Art of War

It is true now just as it was in 500 B.C.

For all those gun-ho about staying in Afghanistan, and those who were keen to stay in Iraq as well, not to mention jump wild into the Syrian Civil War…read link below, and answer the question (if you can).

Russia wants the U.S. in Afghanistan

Also can anyone tell me if our armed forces in Afghanistan are still getting fuel and other supplies from the Russians?

It would be nice if our geopolitical strategy could again focus on the big military powers in this world, you know the Russians, the Chinese…etc, not the 7th century warlords who can be dispatched with drones and a few bombs.

William Eaton on February 28, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Samantha Power ‏@AmbassadorPower 44m

Link to my statement following today’s emergency #UN Security Council meeting on #Ukraine: http://go.usa.gov/KcVW

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM

From Her statement:

The best way for the people of Crimea to achieve their goals is to work peacefully within the established political system. To this end, the United States calls for an urgent international mediation mission to the Crimea to begin to deescalate the situation, and facilitate productive and peaceful political dialogue among all Ukrainian parties.

In other words we’re supporting the secession of Crimea.

kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Ra-Va., calls for sanctions against Russian individuals who interfere in Ukraine’s domestic affairs – @NBCNews

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Individuals?

Say what?

Do we have pictures and names of every single member of the Russian military AND FSB?

WTF is he thinking?

ajacksonian on February 28, 2014 at 6:48 PM

I repeat what I said days ago: Russia will annex the Crimea and, perhaps, invade and take the 3-4 provinces along the Eastern frontier, one of which may be returned to the Ukraine to placate the feckless West. The rest of the country, broke and seeking Western welfare, will muddle along…

vnvet on February 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Agreed. The North can keep Kiev and Chernobyl and the EU/USA can pay to bail them out. The smart move IMO.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 6:48 PM

he is setting up the chess board

nonintelligent on February 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Oh, and

LOL-

Del Dolemonte on February 28, 2014 at 6:48 PM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

And obozo has an uncontested arrival in dreamland via kinetic resting action and is now witnessing the Sandman made contingency operation.

Flange on February 28, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Flange:Lol,…..Dream Waever Progressive Style!:)

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Dear Lord: I’m no longer asking for competence, but what about simple adult behavior from “our” Administration? Like not going to the Hilton to mellow down during an international crisis?

philosoph0123 on February 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM

The conservative Pavlovian reflex is to suddenly go chickenhawk. If only we’d jump right in and threaten solo military action like Chimpy or The Gipper! That’d show ‘em!

Constantine on February 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Our current (Democrat) Vice President has 5 draft deferments. Same as Dick Cheney.

F- (As usual)

Del Dolemonte on February 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Samantha Power ‏@AmbassadorPower 44m

Link to my statement following today’s emergency #UN Security Council meeting on #Ukraine: http://go.usa.gov/KcVW

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM

From Her remarks:

The best way for the people of Crimea to achieve their goals is to work peacefully within the established political system. To this end, the United States calls for an urgent international mediation mission to the Crimea to begin to deescalate the situation, and facilitate productive and peaceful political dialogue among all Ukrainian parties.

In other words we’re supporting the Russians in Crimea.

kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM

By this logic, I guess the Mexican government is good to make an uncontested arrival in South Phoenix then…

nextgen_repub on February 28, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Russia gets a 9.9 in the “Uncontested Arrival” event of the 2014 Winter Olympics.

VorDaj on February 28, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Which is a tie of the existing Olympic Record, set by the German team at the 1936 games in Garmisch-Partenkirchen.

Norwegian on February 28, 2014 at 6:51 PM

A senior administration official in Washington DC has said that the US is considering pulling out of this Summer’s G8 summit in Russia.

That’ll show’em. Hit them hard where it hurts!

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 6:51 PM

By this logic, I guess the Mexican government is good to make an uncontested arrival in South Phoenix then…

nextgen_repub on February 28, 2014 at 6:51 PM

They already are doing so.

kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Ukrainian political crisis
59s
US proposes urgent mediation mission to help resolve Ukraine’s crisis – @AP
read more on bigstory.ap.org

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:53 PM

They already are doing so.
kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM

I can attest to that. So can Sheriff Joe.

Kaffa on February 28, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Obama does not care what happens. He is only interested in transforming this country. It is happy hour in Washington, folks. This performance only rivals his shout-out before discussing the Ft. Hood “workplace violence “.

Techster64 on February 28, 2014 at 6:55 PM

This is the guy the Euro-pee-ins wanted when they threw down the palms at his feet in Berlin 6 years ago.

You rubes wanted a smaller, weaker USA and now you got it.

Why doncha go all touchy-feely with Pooty-Poot and see where it gets you.

Chumps.

Bruno Strozek on February 28, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Obama is harder on rival political groups than former super powers bent on invading their neighbors.

deadrody on February 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Obama and his leftist ilk have been very clear in the last 5 years on who they think the enemy is.

Rusty Nail on February 28, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Obama managed to lose a war won more then 20 years ago!

the_nile on February 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

He has a gift when it comes to losing wars that we’ve won.

kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 6:56 PM

The best way for the people of Crimea to achieve their goals is to work peacefully within the established political system. To this end, the United States calls for an urgent international mediation mission to the Crimea to begin to deescalate the situation, and facilitate productive and peaceful political dialogue among all Ukrainian parties.

In other words we’re supporting the Russians in Crimea.

kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM

kcewa:

Isn’t it interesting that Organizing For AmericaGoons were sh*t-distrubing in Libya, Egypt, Venezula,

but for the Ukraine,…they don’t give a rats *ss!!!

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:56 PM

There’s also this detail;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570335/Former-British-Ambassador-Moscow-warns-Russia-invaded-Ukraine-difficult-avoid-going-war.html

narciso on February 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM

The agreement promises to protest Ukraine’s borders in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.

It is not a formal treaty, but rather, a diplomatic document.

It was an unprecedented case in contemporary international life and international law.

Whether is it legally binding in complex.

‘It is binding in international law, but that doesn’t mean it has any means of enforcement,’ says Barry Kellman is a professor of law and director of the International Weapons Control Center at DePaul University’s College of Law told Radio Free Europe.

I suspect it is a dead letter.

sharrukin on February 28, 2014 at 6:57 PM

narciso on February 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM

LOL! Thank You Bill!

How the heck will we honor that? Politically or Militarily?

So we will fight a war to keep Crimea in the Ukraine, oh that will sell well with the American people. Maybe if the CIA was not playing around in Syria, or a President who was not playing around with his putter, maybe could start running something more militarily substantial to the Ukrainian government…

William Eaton on February 28, 2014 at 6:57 PM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

and BOOM.

upinak on February 28, 2014 at 6:47 PM

upinak:Lol,

A GrizzlyMommaPaw up the side of da head,..P.S…Great to see ya:0

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Hey, everyone chill out.

We’ve got John Kerry speaking for all of us.

portlandon on February 28, 2014 at 6:58 PM

The cold war is over. We surrendered.

kcewa on February 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Obama managed to lose a war won more then 20 years ago!

the_nile on February 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Much like the Democratic Congress lost the Vietnam War after it had been won on the ground.

slickwillie2001 on February 28, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Todd Starnes of FOX:

I just finished chatting with Sarah Palin. Here’s a comment she asked me to share exclusively with you folks:

“Back in 2008, I accurately predicted the possibility of Putin feeling emboldened to invade Ukraine because I could see what kind of leader Barack Obama would be. The bullies of the world are always emboldened by indecision and moral equivalence. We can expect more of this sort of thing in a world where America is gutting its military and ‘leading from behind.’”

INC on February 28, 2014 at 6:59 PM

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Dog Eater is choosing which tie to wear on the flight to Vegas.

Bishop on February 28, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Bishop:And which seasoning to use on his smoked dog meat!!:)

canopfor on February 28, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Putin just stepped in a big giant pile of Obama and he seems to be mooshing his boots in it and laughing.

Obama? You are a disgrace to our Nation. Just go away willingly.

Key West Reader on February 28, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Hey, everyone chill out.

We’ve got John Kerry speaking for all of us.

portlandon on February 28, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Is he sober?

/Oh, nevermind.

Key West Reader on February 28, 2014 at 7:02 PM

The conservative Pavlovian reflex is to suddenly go chickenhawk. If only we’d jump right in and threaten solo military action like Chimpy or The Gipper! That’d show ‘em!
 
Constantine on February 28, 2014 at 6:29 PM

 
So long as he obeys the War Powers Act this time.
 

“We are acting lawfully,” said Harold H. Koh, the State Department legal adviser, who expanded on the administration’s reasoning in a joint interview with the White House counsel, Robert Bauer…
 
“We are not saying the War Powers Resolution is unconstitutional or should be scrapped or that we can refuse to consult Congress. We are saying the limited nature of this particular mission is not the kind of ‘hostilities’ envisioned by the War Powers Resolution.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/16/us/politics/16powers.html?pagewanted=all

 
Congratulations, though, Constantine, for the precedent you’re allowing him to set.

rogerb on February 28, 2014 at 7:03 PM

WTF is he thinking?

ajacksonian on February 28, 2014 at 6:48 PM

He’s not.

Neither side here has an effing clue what to do.

BallisticBob on February 28, 2014 at 7:05 PM

This is the way it starts, or at least it was in WWI. It’s a brave new world kiddies. I now return Hot Gay to it’s 24/7/365 coverage of all that is gay.

DFCtomm on February 28, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Bryan Preston:

“I am at such peace because we have Barack Obama, Joe Biden, John Kerry and Chuck Hagel in office to deal with Vladimir Putin and the Ukraine crisis,” said no one, ever.

INC on February 28, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Can anyone tell me how much influence Putin has over logistics of re-supply of NATO forces in Afghanistan? I have not researched the issue enough.

According to Wikipedia (I know it is Wikipedia):

There are several different routes included in the Northern Distribution Network. The most commonly used route, though also one of the longest, starts at the port of Riga, Latvia on the Baltic Sea, and continues for 3,212 miles (5,169 km) by train southwards through Russia, using railroads built by Russia in the 1980s for the Soviet war in Afghanistan.[2] The supplies then pass through Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan before reaching Afghanistan’s northern border at Termez.[2] To get to the south of the country, the supplies must be loaded onto trucks and transported through the mountainous Hindu Kush by means of the Salang Tunnel.[9] The Salang Tunnel, which is the main connection between northern and southern Afghanistan, is 1.5 miles long and situated at an altitude of 11,100 feet. It is prone to avalanches and quite dangerous.[9]

Originally only non-lethal resources were allowed on the NDN. In July 2009, however, shortly before a visit by President Obama to Moscow, Russian authorities announced that U.S. troops and weapons could use the country’s airspace to reach Afghanistan.[28]

Russia announced plans to create a NATO transit hub in Ulyanovsk in March 2012. The decision sparked protests in the city which is the birthplace of Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin.[40][41] In late June 2012 Russia approved ground and air transit of NATO goods over its territory from Afghanistan. An order signed by Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and dated 25 June 2012 allows the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) to move their consignments, including some types of weapons and military hardware,[42] from and to Afghanistan via a Russian base in the Airport Ulyanovsk Vostochny by rail, road and air, in contrast with the previous permission, which sanctioned only ground transit. But the order imposes a list of conditions, including customs clearance, availability of official certificates and other requirements which ensure the goods’ transparency on Russia’s territory.[43] Moscow has been considering allowing NATO to use Ulyanovsk Air Base only for the transit of non-lethal cargos to and from Afghanistan. The planned agreement however stirred a wave of criticism and protests in Russia, with many being strongly opposed to what they consider a “NATO base” on Russian soil. But high-ranking Moscow officials insisted according to Russian TV network RT that no NATO military base or the presence of the alliance’s civil and military personnel is intended, but only civilian logistics facilities.[42]

William Eaton on February 28, 2014 at 7:07 PM

This is the way it starts, or at least it was in WWI. It’s a brave new world kiddies. I now return Hot Gay to it’s 24/7/365 coverage of all that is gay.

DFCtomm on February 28, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Upon further reflection, I don’t think we have the balls to honor the treaty. I guess that +1 pre WWI U.S..

DFCtomm on February 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM

I’m sure Bush would’ve said something Macho and done something rash/stupid like getting us into a WWIII with russia

Obama knows this isn’t worth risking America’s blood and treasure and therefore he is setting up the chess board so that America has multiple options when and if it needs to take stronger action

nonpartisan on February 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Of course! That’s it! Why, it’s like a replay of the old Bobby Fischer vs Boris Spassky match! How could we be so blind? Brilliant!

/s

tanked59 on February 28, 2014 at 7:10 PM

This is the guy the Euro-pee-ins wanted when they threw down the palms at his feet in Berlin 6 years ago.

You rubes wanted a smaller, weaker USA and now you got it.

Why doncha go all touchy-feely with Pooty-Poot and see where it gets you.

Chumps.

Bruno Strozek on February 28, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Yep. Although that has all gone now. Obama is now a joke everywhere. I was watching a European newscast of Obama’s Ukraine newser, and the announcer was seen shaking her head after he was done.

Also, while the Western European Left once embraced Obama (they don’t anymore), Eastern Europe (with the exception of Russia) has remained pro-Republican. Believe it or not, but there are actual statues of GW Bush in places such as Albania and Reagan is revered in many countries.

Norwegian on February 28, 2014 at 7:11 PM

War on women: http://www.helenrappaport.com/page4.html

davidk on February 28, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Oaf spoke for two min., made a fool of himself and the USA “bla, bla, Putin, bla, bla, Sochi…bla, bla”. Then he went across town for an all D-rats’ meeting “It’s past 5 now, it’s happy hour, I have executive privilege to say so…”

Laughing stock of the world. I’m giddy because the fools brung/kept him. Suffer, fools, suffer. He is a shame to the world.

Schadenfreude on February 28, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Hah, Yahoo News “obama issues blunt warning to Russia”

Laugh of the day.

Schadenfreude on February 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM

The French won’t care, but I wouldn’t be surprised if lots of Euro countries are asking themselves hard questions, like, “If Putin marches west, who is going to stop him? Obama won’t. Can we?”

I wouldn’t be surprised if Merkel and the Norweigans quietly up the training budget a bit. The Finns, too.

It goes without saying Polish troops are probably going to be worked to death and pointed east.

Vanceone on February 28, 2014 at 7:18 PM

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