Tea Party turns five today

posted at 12:01 pm on February 27, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

And just like any birthday, the Tea Party plans to celebrate in style — and in Washington DC, where the grassroots movement has made an indelible impact. The Tea Party Patriots has reservations at the Hyatt Regency for an all-day symposium (which started at 8:30 this morning), with an impressive list of headliners. Mark Levin and Sean Hannity demonstrate the media reach of the movement, but it’s the new Washington insiders that are the most impressive. Five years ago, Senators Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Rand Paul weren’t even on the radar screens for most Americans.

Roll Call has a report on the five-year mark and the progress made in changing the direction of conservatism, which depends on who one asks:

But five years in, the political movement is not easy to evaluate. Among the sentiments we heard from Republican lawmakers as we assessed the tea party over the past week were that it’s been successful, that it’s pushed legislative change on spending issues, that it’s still experiencing growing pains, and even that it’s “dangerous.”

There’s not much of a central organization inside the Congress. (Bachmann’s Tea Party Caucus website hasn’t been updated since June.) Newer lawmakers, like Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, have taken over much of the tea party spotlight.

Still, many of the tea party’s goals have been thwarted — Obamacare still stands largely untouched and the president is moving forward with a vast regulatory agenda. But the one area where the tea party’s impact has been lasting and deep is in reversing the stimulus spending policies of the president and enacting the deepest discretionary spending cuts in memory.

“The tea party’s legacy is to really expose the spending that’s out of control in Washington,” said RSC Chairman Steve Scalise of Louisiana.

“We were elected as a restraining order,” said Michael C. Burgess of Texas.

And they gave Republicans what may be an enduring House majority.

I’d say that Burgess comes closest to the point. The Tea Party arose to oppose a further erosion of personal liberty and put a brake on the expansion of spending. Those short-term goals have largely been accomplished, although they may not be as satisfying to some as they should. It takes time for a movement to evolve into a broad force that can win national elections, or even state and local elections. It took the New Left decades to reach that potential, from its start in the 1960s to the eclipse of the Democratic Leadership Council formed in part to blunt its radicalism and make Democrats competitive in the 1992 presidential election. Bill Clinton was the last and only DLC President; Barack Obama is the first true New Left President, and it took 40 years for that movement to win it.

On that timeline, the Tea Party is well ahead of schedule. They need time to move key figures into party leadership in order to eclipse the old establishment, but they’re already winning key elections to start that process. The key issue for the Tea Party may be patience, and improving messaging in order to broaden their appeal. The American Enterprise Institute notes that results from six polling series indicate that messaging may be an issue at the moment:

Six pollsters ask people whether they have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of the Tea Party. All of the polls with recent askings show that unfavorable sentiment has risen, sometimes quite sharply, since the questions were first asked. In a February 2010 ABC News/Washington Post poll, 35 percent had a favorable opinion and 40 percent an unfavorable one. In October 2013, those responses were 26 and 59 percent respectively. In a March 2010 Quinnipiac poll of registered voters, 28 percent had a favorable opinion and 23 percent an unfavorable one. In November 2013 those responses were 27 and 47 percent, respectively.

Let’s celebrate a happy birthday to the Tea Party by celebrating its success, and learning from the missteps along the way.


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Happy Birthday Dissenters!

Keep fighting the good fight.

: )

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Haven’t read the article yet but I’d say the headline is short by over 200 years. Seems that taxed enough already was at the root of a rebellion back in the 1700s. You know when all those misfits got sent back to England.

Oldnuke on February 27, 2014 at 12:06 PM

I love it – except for the word ‘PARTY’ – there is NO “Party”

This is a movement of like beliefs

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 12:06 PM

… and where is the “Coffee Party” or Occupy today? Back in their jammies, sippin’ on hot cocoa.

SteveInRTP on February 27, 2014 at 12:07 PM

That won’t stop the RINOs from trying to abort it …

ShainS on February 27, 2014 at 12:07 PM

OT

Guy Benson @guypbenson
Follow
Hope he’s okay. RT @JesseRodriguez: NBC’s Pete Williams reports AG Holder has been taken to a DC hospital after experiencing chest pains

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Congratulations from your ‘smart’ president.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Not sharp enough

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Best wishes

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

I’m proud to say that I attended the first Tea Party rally in WA state back then with my parents.

Jack_Burton on February 27, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Paco de Lucía and Jim Lange dies yesterday of heart-attacks.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Messrs Lee/Cruz!!!

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Protest is patriotic, unless you’re not a leftist thug.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM

the Tea Party plans to celebrate in style — and in Washington DC,

Whoa! Better have armed police on the ready and the military on the alert to respond to this and keep these domestic terorists in check. Ya know “Celebrate in Style” is terrorist code for something real bad.

/SNARK

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Let’s celebrate a happy birthday to the Tea Party by celebrating its success, and learning from the missteps along the way.

It took some years to build the republic. It might be too late to save her.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Perfect Hillary

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM

I am very patient. The time will come.

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM

I noted the table comment from the other thread. ; )

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Hmmm… Holder has faintness, shortness of breath and Tea Party has birthday celebration in DC. Coincidence or… ?

SteveInRTP on February 27, 2014 at 12:19 PM

There is no tea Party.
There is, however, a Tea Party Movement.

Galtian on February 27, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Whoa! Better have armed police on the ready and the military on the alert to respond to this and keep these domestic terorists in check. Ya know “Celebrate in Style” is terrorist code for something real bad.

/SNARK

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:15 PM

And better have cameras and a plant on hand for when Nanzi Plugosi and John Lewis just happen to walk by.

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM

“Dangerous and extreme! This sort of crazy independence has no place in our fine nation.”

–Peter King, John McCain; joint press release

orangemtl on February 27, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Sorry just couldn’t resist. Plus the Beatles birthday tune is reserved for actual individuals. ; ) The thread needs to be festive!

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 12:21 PM

“Dangerous and extreme! This sort of crazy independence has no place in our fine nation.”

Just let that sink in…

d1carter on February 27, 2014 at 12:22 PM

On the other side of the spectrum, OWS died in the crib, possibly a mercy killing.

mjbrooks3 on February 27, 2014 at 12:24 PM

There is no tea Party.
There is, however, a Tea Party Movement.

Galtian on February 27, 2014 at 12:19 PM

There is only a

T axed
E nough
A lready

Party Movement, never to forget and always to be accurate.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:24 PM

I recall being a freshman in college back in 2005, at a very liberal university, in a liberal town (strangely enough, in a county with one of the highest concentrations of veterans in the country [suffolk county, Long Island, NY]).

I discovered a group called North Country Patriots, largely comprised of veterans, that met rallied every Saturday on one of the corners against a main thoroughfare in town. We had men who served in Nam, WWII, Korea. All 50 and up. I was the baby at 22. Across the street was an anti-war group, largely compromised of university academics from my school. Every single saturday we would go. And every single saturday, we were out numbered. There were days it was five of us. Three of us. Four of us, all the while, the other side had 15, 25, 30.

2005 went on, into 2006, 2007, 2008, then 2009.

All those years, we tried to get friends to come, no one did. We tried to get people to stop and hang out for a bit. No one did. No one cared, or they did, but just didn’t feel like it. Then, Obama was elected, and that was the low point for our group.

Then, in 2009, things began to change. All the sudden people began coming down, and there was this group called “Constitution 365.” Then it was “Tea Party something or other.” I was like wtf is this tea party? Didn’t matter. They began coming down in droves, and we began having 20, 30, 35, 50 people there. All while the other side slowly dwindled to about 8.

Good times.

blatantblue on February 27, 2014 at 12:24 PM

“Dangerous and extreme! This sort of crazy independence has no place in our fine nation colonies.”

– Peter King, John McCain; royal envoys to King George III, 1775 joint press release

orangemtl on February 27, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Just think if those two had been around during our first revolution.

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:25 PM

My mistake. Back in 2005, I was 18. Gosh I cant even keep track.

blatantblue on February 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Thank you Tea Party movement.

Without you, some days I would have no hope.

itsspideyman on February 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM

My mistake. Back in 2005, I was 18. Gosh I cant even keep track.

blatantblue on February 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Just wait and see what happens when quite a few more years go by.

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Just wait and see what happens when quite a few more years go by.

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM

I’m going to friends’ weddings this year, and people are having babies and getting houses..

I need another drink.

*gulp* :[

blatantblue on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Trajectory: It flew all the way to the crash site.

Teahadis have been unmitigated blessings to Democrats and menaces to conservatives, dragging the Republican Party from one defeat and humiliation to another. They were given one chance to try to set policy this fall, screwed up horrendously, and are now being shoved off the stage. I suggest you go quietly. Otherwise, states will pass SB 1062-like laws to keep from having to have anything to do with you.

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Misguided RINO

What are you Teahadis complaining about? The all-but-declared goal of the Teahadist movement has been to give Obama and Reid absolute power by weakening or destroying their opposition, making all other points of view seem ridiculous or contaminated, and forcing them to increase the power that they have to save the Republic from those of you who wish to destroy it.

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Way to win friends and influence people, heh.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Perfect timing

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:29 PM

I’m going to friends’ weddings this year, and people are having babies and getting houses..

I need another drink.

*gulp* :[

blatantblue on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Time will go by in a blur. Hopefully life will go as you plan, and hopefully you will enjoy a free and prosperous Nation. But I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Why can’t the Tea Party celebrate somewhere in “flyover country” instead of DC ??….after all, isn’t the Tea Party made up of mostly “flyover natives” ??

tencole on February 27, 2014 at 12:30 PM

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Ah, how wrong you are.

While there have been times I’ve disagreed over strategy with the Tea Party, my worldview is nearly 100 percent in lock step with them.

You can call them crazy, lunatics, whatever. It shows your rank idiocy.

You know what is crazy? Standing on the tracks, watching a freight train come speeding down at you, and not doing a damn THING to move out of the way. THAT is crazy, pal.

The only people in this country who are standing around saying, “What IS this craziness?” are the tea partiers. Everyone else, in their opium-fueled-like stupor sits there and says, “it’ll be fine!”

We know it won’t be, and that’s because we have a knowledge of history, and we lack the abject arrogance that you and others possess: this notion that we cannot fall, that we cannot sink. Why? Because we’re so advanced compared to yesteryear.

Goliaths fall, too.

blatantblue on February 27, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Teahadis

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Teen Spirit.

Del Dolemonte on February 27, 2014 at 12:32 PM

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 12:30 PM

I really worry about the future I and my children will live in. I dread getting older, but I truly dread getting older and living in a Brave New World, relaying to my children stories of how things used to be. Once I start making more income, and hopefully I do, I’m making the right preparations for certain, well, “contingencies.”

blatantblue on February 27, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Bmore, for your patience

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:34 PM

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Thank you for that uplifting though unsolicited advice. Not a total loss for you though. You made the list.

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Six pollsters ask people whether they have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of the Tea Party. All of the polls with recent askings show that unfavorable sentiment has risen, sometimes quite sharply, since the questions were first asked. In a February 2010 ABC News/Washington Post poll, 35 percent had a favorable opinion and 40 percent an unfavorable one. In October 2013, those responses were 26 and 59 percent respectively. In a March 2010 Quinnipiac poll of registered voters, 28 percent had a favorable opinion and 23 percent an unfavorable one. In November 2013 those responses were 27 and 47 percent, respectively.

The left that’s in power now would have had crummy numbers back in the 60′s and 70′s. The Tea Party Movement needs to get into the media and get with the younger people. If the powers that be want to make the Tea Party subversive, BE subversive. That alone will help attract the young. Build for the future.

trigon on February 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:34 PM

; ) *clink!*

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Ronald Reagan smiles upon the TEA party. They called him names too, from both sides. Just search for how often George Will insulted him.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:37 PM

The Tea Party Elite are throwing themselves a big wingding to pat themselves on the back for the simple fact the Tea Party has lasted 5 years. This is a waste of their donors money. Couldn’t they do this at CPAC? I wonder if George Washington asked for donations from the supporters of the revolution to throw a big party for the founding fathers 5 years into the war for independence.

Jackson on February 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Meanwhile

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Trajectory: It flew all the way to the crash site.

Teahadis have been unmitigated blessings to Democrats and menaces to conservatives, dragging the Republican Party from one defeat and humiliation to another. They were given one chance to try to set policy this fall, screwed up horrendously, and are now being shoved off the stage. I suggest you go quietly. Otherwise, states will pass SB 1062-like laws to keep from having to have anything to do with you.

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

And one day, HOTAIR may pass an I-Suck site regulation,
to keep from having to have anything to do with you…

BTW, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TEA PARTY.

ToddPA on February 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM

to keep from having to have anything to do with you.

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Ah, yes, liberal tolerance on display again.

John the Libertarian on February 27, 2014 at 12:43 PM

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 11:41 AM

P.S. You are losing.

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Ronald Reagan smiles upon the TEA party. They called him names too, from both sides. Just search for how often George Will insulted him.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:37 PM

KUDOS SCHAD….the worst IMO, was Gerald Ford, who
called him “unelectable”
See all those Presidents we’ve had since such as Dole, McCain
and Romney are living proof of this….

ToddPA on February 27, 2014 at 12:45 PM

The most civic-minded, important and maligned movement in American history. I’m delighted and honored to call myself a Tea Party member.

rrpjr on February 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM

The Tea Party is the last, best, hope for America. Allen West should be its national leader.

Libertyship46 on February 27, 2014 at 12:58 PM

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Have you ever been to a Tea Party gathering?

rrpjr on February 27, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Have you ever been to a Tea Party gathering?

rrpjr on February 27, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Lolz! Good one rrpjr !

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Ronald Reagan smiles upon the TEA party.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Well I guess that’s a safe line to go with.
Maybe he had a change of heart on a whole host of issues in the afterlife.

verbaluce on February 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM

I’ll add that the Tea Party is the best friend true liberals ever had. If you can think outside the caterwauling from your ideological redoubts and realize that the only hope for the social safety net lies in fiscal reform, you will come to appreciate and even support the Tea Party.

rrpjr on February 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Oh, one other thing. Ted Cruz!!! Lolz!

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Don’t forget this

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Tea partiers (and conservatives generally) can become politically relevant if and when they fill up the 200,000 or so vacant Republican Party precinct committeeman slots. There’s about 400,000 total slots. In other words, the Party is there for the taking by conservatives. But, doing that detracts from the main goal of people like Jenny Beth Martin: get at many “little people” as possible to SEND MONEY!!!!!

The money would be much better spent by the donors locally on activities within their own local Republican Party committee.

Go here for more info: http://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com and http://precinctproject.us

I hope this helps.

Cold Warrior on February 27, 2014 at 1:20 PM

My mistake. Back in 2005, I was 18. Gosh I cant even keep track.

blatantblue on February 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Just wait and see what happens when quite a few more years go by.

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM

It helps if you find a number you like and stick with it – then you don’t have to do the math – whcih gets depressing after awhile.
My wife has been 36 since 2000…..

dentarthurdent on February 27, 2014 at 1:21 PM

My wife has been 36 since 2000…..

dentarthurdent on February 27, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Lolz! Our better halfs have that in common.

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 1:23 PM

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Pop quiz:
“Wacko-birds”
Who said it and who was he talking about?

dentarthurdent on February 27, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Lolz! Our better halfs have that in common.

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 1:23 PM

However, since I have NOT stuck with the same number over the years, it’s getting a bit awkward now that our kids are in their 20s….

However, it wasn’t too bad when she was working on her Master’s degree – I told people I was sleeping with a college coed….

dentarthurdent on February 27, 2014 at 1:26 PM

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Another pop quiz:
Which side of the R party is playing go along to get along, and which side is trying to hold the government in line with the Constitution?

dentarthurdent on February 27, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Ronald Reagan smiles upon the TEA party.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Well I guess that’s a safe line to go with.
Maybe he had a change of heart on a whole host of issues in the afterlife.

verbaluce on February 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM

NAW, he stated on more than one occasion, that he had 5 goals
as President. He concluded he was able to accomplish 4 of them.
The one he did not (by his own admission)? Controlling SPENDING.
So you see, his heart was just fine in his Earthly existence…

..but you keep doing yeoman’s work on re-writing history for
those Uninformed you travel with…..

ToddPA on February 27, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Happy Birthday. Keep the SOBs in Washington in line.

SC.Charlie on February 27, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Happy Birthday, TEA Party!

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM

arose to oppose a further erosion

Try saying that ten times fast..

As for messaging, the TEA party needs to distinguish themselves from those the left considers “birthers.” As well, they need to make clear the opposition is to government spending/overreach, and not against any one person/party. I certainly see my political mind in alignment with much of the TEA party agenda, so I hope they continue to gain influence.

Effay5 on February 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Effay5 on February 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Well, the birther movement has to end now anyway – 0barky is such an embarrassment, even Kenya and Indonesia are now saying he was born in the USA.

dentarthurdent on February 27, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Ronald Reagan smiles upon the TEA party.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Well I guess that’s a safe line to go with.
Maybe he had a change of heart on a whole host of issues in the afterlife.

verbaluce on February 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Meanwhile, Ted Kennedy enjoys his seat by the fire……

itsspideyman on February 27, 2014 at 1:49 PM

verbie, you’re never smart.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 1:52 PM

The TEA party started almost to the day my mom was diagnosed with small cell lung cancer. The experts gave my mom six months and the TEA party less than that.

By God’s grace, they are both still around and living. Props to both.

fortcoins on February 27, 2014 at 1:54 PM

The Tea Party arose to oppose a further erosion of personal liberty and put a brake on the expansion of spending. Those short-term goals have largely been accomplished

–12:01 pm on February 27, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

We have more socialism now in every single facet of our lives than 5 years ago…more spending, less religious freedom, more government intrusion everywhere. In real life, there aren’t medals for participation, only results. If you grade the Tea Party for it’s accomplishments in stopping Obama, they get a D-.

The TEA Party itself is now mostly a Freedomworks funded grassroots astroturf operation that exists to fund commercials for talk radio. They have two positive accomplishments (Ted Cruz, Mike Lee) and 5 years of failure in stopping Obama’s agenda.

sauldalinsky on February 27, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Just think how strong the movement could be now, if not for the: IRS, Democrats, Mainstream Media, as well as some cable networks and last, but not least our good ol RINOS. I think I’ll have me some TEA.

DDay on February 27, 2014 at 1:59 PM

fortcoins on February 27, 2014 at 1:54 PM

*clink!*

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 1:59 PM

sauldalinsky on February 27, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Good thing we have that whole GOPe covering our backs, eh?

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Thanks! She was in remission for a while. (We celebrated by taking her to Punta Cana.) The cancer is back, but is being kept at bay for the time being. Every day is a blessing and a bonus.

fortcoins on February 27, 2014 at 2:06 PM

The “Tea Party” is the American middle class fighting for survival in a nation that is increasingly trying to eliminate it.

Socratease on February 27, 2014 at 2:07 PM

fortcoins on February 27, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Indeed, every moment. Give her my most sincere best wishes. ; )

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Will do! I mostly lurk here and don’t add too much to the party, but I do appreciate you and the rest and the gang’s contributions to the site – insight, snark, and troll-smacking alike!

fortcoins on February 27, 2014 at 2:10 PM

; ) Well if the chance presents, join the fray, can be a lot of fun! Lolz!

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Good thing we have that whole GOPe covering our backs, eh?

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:00 PM

There’s no dichotomy of establishment vs. tea party. The TEA Party exists because of funding and approval from the GOPe. Look at the post above, where Ed Morrissey just wrote…

with an impressive list of headliners. Mark Levin and Sean Hannity demonstrate the media reach of the movement

you don’t get more GOPe than Sean Hannity.

sauldalinsky on February 27, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Sure. Keep in mind TEA is leaderless, not rudderless. ; )

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Of course I’m a Wacko Bird so what would I know. ; )

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Woo hoo!

I went to the April 15, 2009 rally in DC. It was rainy. I was moved. I hope the movement continues to GROW.

Went to the Sept 12, 2009 rally. WOW! What a huge collection of people.

I believe this movement is destined to continue growing.

freedomfirst on February 27, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Whee! Another circle jerk thread.

Mmm...Burritos on February 27, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Mmm…Burritos on February 27, 2014 at 2:32 PM

It wouldn’t be a jerk thread without ya, shooter…:)

fortcoins on February 27, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Of course I’m a Wacko Bird so what would I know. ; )

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Out of curiosity, what grade would you give to both the tea party & GOPe for their success in stopping Obama’s agenda from 2009-2014?

(Mine are D- for Tea Party and F for GOPe.)

sauldalinsky on February 27, 2014 at 2:34 PM

sauldalinsky on February 27, 2014 at 2:34 PM

I don’t grade the past as much as I try to improve in/for the future. ; )

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:40 PM

fortcoins on February 27, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Lolz! ; )

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:40 PM

The growing “unfavorable” ratings of the Tea Party aren’t really the fault of the actual Tea Party people, of which I was one. That message was very narrowly drawn on spending, debt, and bailouts – later to include the ObamaCare mandate.

But because the TP was a broad-based grassroots movement with no organization or leadership, various small groups were able to co-opt the name and claim to speak for the TP on a wide range of issues, most of which were never mentioned at a single TP rally, much less endorsed by any broad coalition of actual attendees.

Groups like Freedom Works, Tea Party Express, Tea Party Patriots, Tea Party America, etc., are small private companies controlled by a handful of people, elected by no one and with no constraints on their claims. Their actions claiming the TP mantle have driven the ratings down (along with the constant Democratic campaign against it, but that was less effective until the privateers took over).

Adjoran on February 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Good. Hope it’s around 50 more, and stays true to conservative, grassroots populism.

I do have to note, however, the absence of any mention of she-who- shall-not-be-named in both Ed’s post & the linked article. It wasn’t just a “name-drop” list, but I noted the mentions of Cruz, mention & photo of Bachmann, etc.

Wonder what that’s about?

:)

cs89 on February 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM

fortcoins on February 27, 2014 at 2:34 PM

You should play more often.

freedomfirst on February 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM

sauldalinsky on February 27, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Just occurred to me sauldalinsky, you know who is good at grades here at HA is Del. He will be able to tell you a grade. He’s good. ; )

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:49 PM

sauldalinsky on February 27, 2014 at 2:34 PM

I think you’ve got your questions a bit wrong. Allow me:

Out of curiosity, what grade would you give the TEA party for their success in stopping Obama’s agenda & the GOPe for their success in stopping the TEA party 2009-2014?

There.

The TEA party has slowed Obama’s agenda. I give them a solid B, with an A for effort. The GOPe? I give them the a solid C, with an A for effort for trying to stop and silence the TEA party.

Fallon on February 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM

I do have to note, however, the absence of any mention of she-who- shall-not-be-named in both Ed’s post & the linked article…

cs89 on February 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Yep. I took the family, including younguns to a large event featuring “her”. The Metro was packed on a Saturday. Couldn’t find parking at any stations in VA. Had to park at Pentagon (?) and hiked across while pushing a stroller.

freedomfirst on February 27, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Freedom Works, Tea Party Express, Tea Party Patriots, Tea Party America, etc.,

Yep. Junk mail folder full. ; )

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 2:52 PM

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