Jonathan Turley on Obama’s executive overreach: We’re at a constitutional tipping point

posted at 11:21 am on February 27, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via the Free Beacon, a snippet from the latest House hearing on O’s duty to faithfully execute the laws. These Turley clips always get attention because it’s gratifying to see at least one scholar willing to challenge the Unicorn Prince on his “virtuous” power grabs, but the whole point of his testimony, really, is to challenge Congress and the courts, not Obama. I think deep down he’s a fatalist about Obama’s overreach, and rightly so; the reason we have separation of powers, after all, is because we expect each branch to try to expand its authority. That’s what human beings handed power do. You don’t contain them by asking them to be more modest, you contain them by pitting them against other parts of the government which, in theory, will push back to rein them in. Turley’s real problem isn’t with O’s behavior, which is rational and in line with our cynical expectations for state actors clothed in authority. His problem is with the other branches, especially the courts, for refusing to provide the checking and balancing they’re supposed to.

“My view [is] that the president, has in fact, exceeded his authority in a way that is creating a destabilizing influence in a three branch system,” he said. “I want to emphasize, of course, this problem didn’t begin with President Obama, I was critical of his predecessor President Bush as well, but the rate at which executive power has been concentrated in our system is accelerating. And frankly, I am very alarmed by the implications of that aggregation of power.”

“What also alarms me, however, is that the two other branches appear not just simply passive, but inert in the face of this concentration of authority,” Turley said…

“The fact that I happen to think the president is right on many of these policies does not alter the fact that I believe the means he is doing [it] is wrong, and that this can be a dangerous change in our system,” he said. “And our system is changing in a very fundamental way. And it’s changing without a whimper of regret or opposition.”

Whatever they end up doing about it — and the House GOP, at least, is trying to do something — they’d better do it soon. “I believe that your response has to begin before this president leaves office,” Turley says, not only because allowing these power grabs to calcify as acceptable precedent is dangerous but because he knows that some GOPers will grow more sanguine about executive prerogatives once a Republican is back in the White House. He wants the party that’s out of power now on record in their opposition precisely because they won’t be out of power forever.

The other key takeaway here, which you already know but which our trusty media seems not to, is that congressional gridlock is neither new nor an excuse for the president to unilaterally suspend laws that are politically inconvenient to him. If you’re a reporter, watch this. The truth may surprise you!


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“What difference does it make?”

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:23 AM

Doing what’s right means sometimes the rules and laws need to be broken, ya homophobe; truth to power and all that.

But don’t worry, when a Repub is back in the big chair the laws and rules will again be set in stone, inviolate, unchangeable, etc.

Bishop on February 27, 2014 at 11:24 AM

More bread and circii …

ShainS on February 27, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Why isn’t this Headline News each and every night?

ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBC – Nevermind.

I hope they feel the wrath of what they have helped create.

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

“I believe that your response has to begin before this president leaves office,”

is he insinuating I storm the white house with my gang and take over ? well, je refuse !

runner on February 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

I blame the State Run Media…and the GOP’s fear of them.

d1carter on February 27, 2014 at 11:30 AM

is he insinuating I storm the white house with my gang and take over ? well, je refuse !

runner on February 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Where did you get that idea?

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Given Turley’s past politics – you have to assume this is straight up.

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM

We are at the point of Revolution. We are way past a mere Constitutional crisis by now.

ConstantineXI on February 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM

This is one of the main problems.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM

The Ukraine example..?

d1carter on February 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Putin and the wild Islamists will fix all, including he gay parades.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

“What difference does it make?”

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:23 AM

At this point?

Prolly none.

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

The picture is superb, but they are not sharp.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:33 AM

not just simply passive, but inert in the face of this concentration of authority,

And when Ted Cruz gives a 12 hour filibuster arguing to delay Obamacare by a year, which Dear Liar has subsequently, unilaterally and illegally done, he gets knifed by members of his own party.

rbj on February 27, 2014 at 11:33 AM

While you’re at it, read this WSJ column, laying out explicitly what the MSM deliberately overlooks:

Bradley A. Smith: Connecting the Dots in the IRS Scandal
The ‘smoking gun’ in the targeting of conservative groups has been hiding in plain sight.

Drained Brain on February 27, 2014 at 11:34 AM

One of the Fox programs had clips, last night, of representatives and senators leaping to their feet and wildly applauding Obama’s promise to circumvent the legislative branch, in his State of the Union address. :)

butch on February 27, 2014 at 11:34 AM

In short, don’t give the government any power you wouldn’t want your worst enemy to have.

Which basically has been my bumper-sticker philosophy regarding the federal government for as long as I can remember.

And for that I am called racist.

is he insinuating I storm the white house with my gang and take over ?

runner on February 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Don’t be silly. You’re not Putin.

The Schaef on February 27, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Black pastors

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:35 AM

I hope they feel the wrath of what they have helped create.

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Add Google. Hopefully, being coerced to remove the “Innocence of Muslims” movie off of youtube will wake these leftists up.

monalisa on February 27, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Putin and the wild Islamists will fix all, including he gay parades.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM

That would be sweet! I could fake being a good little Muslim.

Liberal broads and gays and other democrat voters? Meh, not so much…

It would be Schadenfreude watching them lose ‘everything’, since they’re responsible for the rest of us losing everything.

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 11:36 AM

I’m not exactly sure what Turley’s problem is with the judiciary and their alleged lack of action to contain the Liar-in-Chief. But then, he’s a lawyer, and I am not.

But I know a thing or two about Congress. And I know, at the end of the day (actually, near the end of the day) Congress has one big stick against the Executive. We all know what it is.

And it isn’t gonna happen…

JohnGalt23 on February 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM

“SCOTUS has insisted they are defending the separation of powers by refusing to enforce the separation of powers.”

Yep!

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Tipping point??? Seems to me the government has already tipped.

When Bill Clinton lied to the Grand Jury and wasn’t held accountable, there went the Judicial branch. And when the President and the Democratic Senate flout the “laws of the land”, I see a dysfunctional Legislative branch.

And you say Jonathan we’re reaching a tipping point?

PriscillaMS on February 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM

One of the Fox programs had clips, last night, of representatives and senators leaping to their feet and wildly applauding Obama’s promise to circumvent the legislative branch, in his State of the Union address. :)

butch on February 27, 2014 at 11:34 AM

The leftist thugs are too stupid to realize that he subjugates all of them. But, blame their stupid constituents, sheep and looters, one and all. They either don’t know or promote against liberty and freedom.

Never call leftists liberal or progressive.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:38 AM

I’m not exactly sure what Turley’s problem is with the judiciary and their alleged lack of action to contain the Liar-in-Chief. But then, he’s a lawyer, and I am not.

But I know a thing or two about Congress. And I know, at the end of the day (actually, near the end of the day) Congress has one big stick against the Executive. We all know what it is.

And it isn’t gonna happen…

JohnGalt23 on February 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM

He said it’s when the courts have ruled on member standing and legislative standing in the cases.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM

I’m shocked – SHOCKED – that HotAir is publishing such an inflammatory piece. /s

So, what’s to be done about this? Beyond these crimes, SCOAMF, Hagel and Kerry have hollowed out our military and made a joke of our foreign policy to the point of actually endangering the safety and security of the nation.

I say TREASON. Anyone care to argue that, or did I go to far?

Rixon on February 27, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Putin and the wild Islamists will fix all, including he the gay parades.

They will regret not being more subtle and more discrete.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Add Google. Hopefully, being coerced to remove the “Innocence of Muslims” movie off of youtube will wake these leftists up.

monalisa on February 27, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t Google ordered by the court to remove that video?

Not that I have any love of google, I despise them and use other search engines primarily.

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Lance, wasn’t it fun to watch the Hillbeast rant against a Hillary/Brewer ticket, then defending Hilldabeast a min. later and after?

I trapped it!!!

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

“The fact that I happen to think the president is right on many of these policies does not alter the fact that I believe the means he is doing [it] is wrong….

How can someone support the policies of a dictator, and then have a problem with the way that dictator goes about implementing those policies? Makes no sense to me.

UltimateBob on February 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

A liberal is begging the GOP to pull their balls out of their purse?

Get in line buddy.

gwelf on February 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

obama’s America, on full display.

MLK died in vain.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Off topic but true – this is not from The Onion:

Feds Refuse to Release Public Comments on NSA Reform — Citing Privacy
The Obama administration has received 28 proposals from corporations with ideas for managing the NSA’s massive database of U.S. phone call metadata. But don’t expect to see the proposals anytime soon. The government says it won’t release a word.

We got our response Wednesday: A blanket denial. (.pdf) Jennifer Hudson, the ODNI chief FOIA officer, wrote WIRED saying the agency located 28 documents “responsive to your request,” but:

Upon review, ODNI has determined the material should be withheld in its entirety in accordance with FOIA exemptions (b)(4) and (b)(6). Exemption (b)(4) applies to confidential proprietary information involving trade secrets and commercial data obtained from a company which, if released, would result in competitive hard to the company. Exemption (b)(6) applies to information which, if released, would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy of individuals.

At the outset of his first term, Obama promised “transparency and open government.” He specifically pledged “to provide greater transparency to our surveillance activities” in reforming the NSA during his globally televised speech on Jan. 17.

We’re immediately appealing the FOIA denial. We’ll keep you posted.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2014/02/metadata-reform/

DinaRehn on February 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Putin was spotted laughing his azz off.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:44 AM

And the libs will burn the country down because Obama isn’t moving fast enough.

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Never call leftists liberal or progressive.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Amen.

UltimateBob on February 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Why isn’t this Headline News each and every night?

ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBC – Nevermind.

Because Forward, Comrade Citizen.
Are you not leaving the Televisor on 24/7 in your living quarters? Remember, it is treason to obstruct, mute or avoid Holy Mother Government programming.
Need we send an IRS Educator to your home?

orangemtl on February 27, 2014 at 11:47 AM

If it tips any further, the Tree of Liberty will need, and likely get, some refreshment….

dentarthurdent on February 27, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Unfortunately, she’s gonna have to go. I don’t mind arguing with trolls but such obvious thread derailment cannot continue.

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 11:48 AM

obama’s America, on full display.

MLK died in vain.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Diversity!

*blech*

“I see white people…” – Spike Lee

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 11:48 AM

I remember seeing this cartoon back on ’08 and scoffing.

How little did we know. And how deluded were SOBs like Luckovich. I think I get more boiled remembering that ignorant ass-clownery than I do at Obama himself.

somewhatconcerned on February 27, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Luckovich is a hack. His work is terrible. He is also a progressive.

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 11:52 AM

It’s interesting that that fellow from Germany (born in Austria) back in the 1930s was able to rise to power as a response / reaction to the excesses of the sitting government and communists in his own adopted country. Yes, he was a socialist, but he was considered “right wing” because he opposed communists and he had the audacity to attack a nice guy in Russia fondly nicknamed “Uncle Joe” – that is, of course, after “Uncle Joe” nearly wet himself in partitioning Poland with that same right winger.

If people believe that the excesses of a “clean, articulate” leftist named Obama are just hunky dory, they may awake one day, in shock, to find those same excesses being used by a not so clean, not so articulate “right winger” fanatic who’s still to be named.

Ruckus_Tom on February 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Whatever they end up doing about it — and the House GOP, at least, is trying to do something — they’d better do it soon. “I believe that your response has to begin before this president leaves office,” Turley says, not only because allowing these power grabs to calcify as acceptable precedent is dangerous but because he knows that some GOPers will grow more sanguine about executive prerogatives once a Republican is back in the White House. He wants the party that’s out of power now on record in their opposition precisely because they won’t be out of power forever.

The primary motivation for the GOP to do nothing is simple: In a few years, Obama has to leave office anyway. They’d much rather not have to fight a political battle if they can just wait him out.

In the short term, it’s a rational response. In the long term, it’s the most dangerous response of all, because there’s nothing to prevent it from happening all over again.

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM

“The fact that I happen to think the president is right on many of these policies does not alter the fact that I believe the means he is doing [it] is wrong….

How can someone support the policies of a dictator, and then have a problem with the way that dictator goes about implementing those policies? Makes no sense to me.

UltimateBob on February 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

It’s called covering’ your ass?

I support fascist policies of Obama et,al….the implementation of those policies is kinda worrisome…

see:

Weimar Republic

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 11:54 AM

SC takes more rights away.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Bmore, is runner another one for your table?

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:56 AM

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 11:54 AM

It’s like saying, “Yeah, let’s go and mug some little old ladies, but let’s not be violent about it, mmmkay?”

UltimateBob on February 27, 2014 at 11:57 AM

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Reminds me of a quote attributed to the execrable Robert Moses:
“I love humanity. I hate people.”

Rixon on February 27, 2014 at 11:58 AM

One of the Fox programs had clips, last night, of representatives and senators leaping to their feet and wildly applauding Obama’s promise to circumvent the legislative branch, in his State of the Union address. :)

butch on February 27, 2014 at 11:34 AM

“So this is how liberty dies… with thunderous applause.”

Sorry for using a quote from those crappy Star Wars prequels, but it seems appropriate here.

Sterling Holobyte on February 27, 2014 at 11:58 AM

GOP is sitting (not standing) amidst the most target rich political environment in recent US history.

And they are doing nothing about it.

aquaviva on February 27, 2014 at 11:58 AM

The leftist thugs are too stupid to realize that he subjugates all of them. But, blame their stupid constituents, sheep and looters, one and all. They either don’t know or promote against liberty and freedom.

Never call leftists liberal or progressive.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Here Here!

Those authoritarian Statists don’t deserve a label that implies anything positive.

I prefer the label for them of national socialist left or leftist for short, but never that label that implies they get anywhere near being advocates of the cause of Liberty.

DinaRehn on February 27, 2014 at 11:58 AM

It’s interesting that that fellow from Germany (born in Austria) back in the 1930s was able to rise to power as a response / reaction to the excesses of the sitting government and communists in his own adopted country. Yes, he was a socialist, but he was considered “right wing” because he opposed communists and he had the audacity to attack a nice guy in Russia fondly nicknamed “Uncle Joe” – that is, of course, after “Uncle Joe” nearly wet himself in partitioning Poland with that same right winger.

If people believe that the excesses of a “clean, articulate” leftist named Obama are just hunky dory, they may awake one day, in shock, to find those same excesses being used by a not so clean, not so articulate “right winger” fanatic who’s still to be named.

Ruckus_Tom on February 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Yeah.

Back then everybody was scared of the Bolsheviks and their determination to unravel the class structure.

Hitler wanted to control that himself by his own methods.

No big difference really between fascism and communism…Both are totalitarian and lots of people die.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 11:58 AM

EVERY AMERICAN should listen to this man’s testimony.

he gives a brilliant dissertation on the three branches
of our government. And he’s NOT a conservative by a
long shot…..he’s first and foremost, an historian
on our Government.

ToddPA on February 27, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Turley f the gop tried to they would be demonized for overreach in their duties nd they would be called racists trying to hinder a black man…..the lsm and left will have none of that……the dems will scream once the gop takes the wh….then it’ll be just fine to do what should be done

Do what we say not what do
-dems

cmsinaz on February 27, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t Google ordered by the court to remove that video?

Not that I have any love of google, I despise them and use other search engines primarily.

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 11:41 AM

It was the Ninth Circuit. But seriously would it surprise anyone if it was Obama and Holder behind the scenes?

monalisa on February 27, 2014 at 12:02 PM

The culprits

Here are the OOOOOPSI steps:

Opportunity: First, we need a hot-button event that is a proper catalyst for the cycle. Recent examples were supplied by Chick-fil-A, Hobby Lobby, Susan G. Komen, and now, Arizona’s proposed law.
Outrage: Next, those on the opposite side of the culture wars make a lot of noise about “fairness” and “bigotry” and “tolerance.” Maybe they have a point, or maybe not, but it’s an important step in the news cycle.
Opposition: Then, the national media by and large adopts the definitions brought to them by the outraged. For example, in this week’s Arizona story, the media labeled the bill “anti-gay,” without the scare quotes. Such labeling was a tremendous victory for the outraged.
Oversimplification: As a part of its coverage, the media fails to add any nuance to the debate or closely examine the actual facts of what’s being argued, preferring to cover the horse race of two competing interests beating each other up.
Overreach: At some point, a mainline media outlet gets too cocky and goes a step too far in its boosterism. Other media momentarily shrink back in embarrassment.
Pendulum: Prompted by this misstep, a few media commentators rub their chins and publish thoughtful analysis pieces that ask if everyone is being a little too hard on the accused. The accused is still wrong, mind you, but we can be nicer about it.
Silence: After this, coverage ceases as the nation’s attention runs elsewhere.
Introspection: Finally, months later, on a Sunday news program, journalists will gather and ruminate about how they unfairly overstated one side of the debate. They pledge to do better next time.

I think the pendulum will swing back soon, especially now that the bill has been vetoed and all momentum has been lost.

I haven’t tested the theory with any rigor, but I’ve seen this kind of media cycle run several times. Let me know if you think I’m making sense — or not. I don’t want to start an OOOOOPSI cycle of my own.

I hope they all suffocate from dereliction of duty. They don’t deserve to be free in their profession and they don’t deserve to consume oxygen. It’s too unjust.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM

SC takes more rights away.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:55 AM

From the article:

WASHINGTON — Police officers may enter and search a home without a warrant as long as one occupant consents, even if another resident has previously objected, the Supreme Court ruled Tuesday in a Los Angeles case.
The 6-3 ruling, triggered by a Los Angeles Police Department arrest in 2009, gives authorities more leeway to search homes without obtaining a warrant, even when there is no emergency.

So the authorities only need to bully one occupant to eviscerate their constitutional rights.. perhaps some who is unaware of those rights… perhaps a child….

DinaRehn on February 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Bmore, is runner another one for your table?

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 11:56 AM

should i be concerned ?

runner on February 27, 2014 at 12:06 PM

“I believe that your response has to begin before this president leaves office,”
is he insinuating I storm the white house with my gang and take over ? well, je refuse !
runner on February 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM

The words of Sam Adams come to mind,

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

Cleombrotus on February 27, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Err, if I’m not mistaken, Turley was a huge Obama worshiper for years. He gets what he asked for.

BillCarson on February 27, 2014 at 12:07 PM

We are at the point of Revolution. We are way past a mere Constitutional crisis by now.

ConstantineXI on February 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Absolutely, and don’t think for a moment this admin doesn’t have contingency plans to deal with a revolution, come the moment Bammy takes that one step to far and sets off the spark that triggers one.

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:07 PM

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:07 PM

That trigger is part of the design, I suspect.

Cleombrotus on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

“So this is how liberty dies… with thunderous applause.”

Sorry for using a quote from those crappy Star Wars prequels, but it seems appropriate here.

Sterling Holobyte on February 27, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Yup, long as the LIVers still are getting Bammy’s free stuff, but just wait until the free stuff ends and see what that thunderous applause turns into.

Lock, load and practice your gun control.

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

That trigger is part of the design, I suspect.

Cleombrotus on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

I suspect you are right.

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:11 PM

I agree with Turley. It’s important to get Republicans to go on record as hating this stuff, so that when they are in power they aren’t tempted to do thee same, evil stuff.

MTF on February 27, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Guy Benson @guypbenson
Follow
Hope he’s okay. RT @JesseRodriguez: NBC’s Pete Williams reports AG Holder has been taken to a DC hospital after experiencing chest pains

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

From the TEA party thread.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:11 PM

should i be concerned ?

runner on February 27, 2014 at 12:06 PM

No

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:12 PM

runner on February 27, 2014 at 12:06 PM

No, but you could answer my question, above.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:13 PM

What will be the trigger..?

d1carter on February 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM

The bigger obstacle is Dingy Harry. This repugnant sub-human hack has allowed cover for Bammie while filling Weepie with a ice box full of reasons not to do the right thing. Weepie and Dingy are the biggest threat to our country.

No Time Clock on February 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM

I say TREASON. Anyone care to argue that, or did I go to far?

Rixon on February 27, 2014 at 11:40 AM

No argument from me.

Think of it like this..if a dyed in the wool communist/marxist/fascist were to somehow gain control of the USA without needing to use force, what path would they be on and what policies would they be implementing to fundamentally transform the United States of America that would be different than what the current regime is forcing on people? What would they do differently? Anything??

Mimzey on February 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Perfect Hillary

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Perfect Hillary

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

And this is one of her lucid moments!!!

No Time Clock on February 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:07 PM

That trigger is part of the design, I suspect.

Cleombrotus on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Do you folks recall his story:

Aug 21, 2013
This Homeland Security Employee Is Preparing for a Coming Race War
A Department of Homeland Security employee who works on, among other things, the procurement of guns and ammunition for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, spends his nights and weekends preparing for a coming race war and advocating for anti-gay causes, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center. Meet Ayo Kimathi, a.k.a. “the Irritated Genie,” who told his bosses at the DHS that his anti-white, anti-gay site, “War is on the Horizon,” was just an entertainment site that sells concert and lecture videos.
http://www.thewire.com/national/2013/08/homeland-security-employee-moonlights-race-warrior/68600/

DinaRehn on February 27, 2014 at 12:21 PM

No argument from me.

Think of it like this..if a dyed in the wool communist/marxist/fascist were to somehow gain control of the USA without needing to use force, what path would they be on and what policies would they be implementing to fundamentally transform the United States of America that would be different than what the current regime is forcing on people? What would they do differently? Anything??

Mimzey on February 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

They wouldn’t be as “caring” and altruistic about it.

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Guy Benson @guypbenson
Follow
Hope he’s okay. RT @JesseRodriguez: NBC’s Pete Williams reports AG Holder has been taken to a DC hospital after experiencing chest pains

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

From the TEA party thread.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Maybe it was the Black Preachers calling for his impeachment?

Stress…it’s a killer

ask Killary who probably had a stroke before she appeared at the Benghazi hearings.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Whatever they end up doing about it — and the House GOP, at least, is trying to do something…

Like Darrell Issa and a host of other… ‘talk’ (not action), I’ll believe it when I see it, and not before.

Midas on February 27, 2014 at 12:25 PM

EVERY AMERICAN should listen to this man’s testimony.

he gives a brilliant dissertation on the three branches
of our government. And he’s NOT a conservative by a
long shot…..he’s first and foremost, an historian
on our Government.

ToddPA on February 27, 2014 at 12:01 PM

True.

It was the I agree with the ideas part…but…

But beyond that it’s still a warning.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Guy Benson @guypbenson
Follow
Hope he’s okay. RT @JesseRodriguez: NBC’s Pete Williams reports AG Holder has been taken to a DC hospital after experiencing chest pains

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Hmmm; I had a comment to make, but I think I won’t.

Midas on February 27, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Absolutely, and don’t think for a moment this admin doesn’t have contingency plans to deal with a revolution, come the moment Bammy takes that one step to far and sets off the spark that triggers one.

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Why do you think Pharaoh is purging the military of officers not personally loyal to “He and Himself” AND demanding the radical downsizing of the State Militias (known as the National Guard) without comment by governors?

For that to be effective Obama needs a generation’s worth of time, because those soldiers are still here. He doesn’t have that long. It’s also not going to do him much good as long as the People are still armed.

A bunch of heavily armed inept thugs in DHS is no substitute for real soldiers.

Look what they did in Ukraine, a country that does NOT HAVE the 2nd Amendment. If Obama provokes Americans to rebel in the manner Ukraine did, he won’t have nearly as long as Yanukovich had to flee (Well, Obama does have something he didn’t have, a helicopter at his disposal at all time)… When the People have finally had enough of this Regime, there will be Regime Change.

We are on the precipice of that historical tipping point. It could happen at any time. Clearly The Regime is preparing for it. But they are tampering with forces that, frankly, a mosquito brain like Barry are incapable of comprehending.

What will the tipping point be?

Could be one of several things:

1. Collapse of the dollar (imminent and inevitable due to the Regime’s irresponsible FED policy)
2. The government attempts an overt gun grab (imminent, as this is a prerequisite for the survival of the Regime).
3. Obama declares martial law and cancels elections.
4. Obama announces he will overstay his 2nd term.

ConstantineXI on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

ConstantineXI on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

As noted on other threads…Obama basically threatened governors by politicizing the National Guard.

So there ya go.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 12:29 PM

A liberal is begging the GOP to pull their balls out of their purse?

Get in line buddy.

gwelf on February 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

+10000

aquaviva on February 27, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Whatever they end up doing about it — and the House GOP, at least, is trying to do something…

Like Darrell Issa and a host of other… ‘talk’ (not action), I’ll believe it when I see it, and not before.

Meh, investigative committee hearings, adding more stacks to the already enormous collection of evidence, sternly worded letters, blovious verbal outrage. The usual empty and meaningless responses.

You will probably see revolution before you see GOP leadership take appropriate and meaningful action.

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:34 PM

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Hope he’s okay. RT @JesseRodriguez: NBC’s Pete Williams reports AG Holder has been taken to a DC hospital after experiencing chest pains

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Hmmm; I had a comment to make, but I think I won’t.

Midas on February 27, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Eric Holder won’t have to wait to see if he’ll get healthcare…now will he?

“Attorney General Eric Holder was hospitalized Thursday morning after experiencing “faintness and shortness of breath” at a meeting of senior Department of Justice staff.

“During his regular morning meeting with senior staff, the attorney general began experiencing symptoms including faintness and shortness of breath,” DOJ Director of Public Affairs Brian Fallon wrote in a statement.

“As a precaution, the attorney general was taken to MedStar Washington Hospital Center to undergo further evaluation. He is currently resting comfortably and in good condition. He is alert and conversing with his doctors. Additional information will be provided as it becomes available.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/27/attorney-general-eric-holder-hospitalized/#ixzz2uXqAbAX6

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. was taken to MedStar Washington Hospital Center on Thursday morning after experiencing faintness and shortness of breath.

Justice Department spokesman Brian Fallon said Holder, 63, had complained of the symptoms during his regular morning meeting with senior staff.

… let’s all say a prayer … but keep our intentions between ourselves and God

J_Crater on February 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM

They wouldn’t be as “caring” and altruistic about it.

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 12:23 PM

At what phase…or maybe you forgot the / tag ? :)
Timing is everything. If you can nudge the sheep into the slaughter corral with a smile and a handful of hay, there’s no need to work up a sweat. When they start to resist then you start kicking and pull out the butcher hook.

Mimzey on February 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Hope he’s okay. RT @JesseRodriguez: NBC’s Pete Williams reports AG Holder has been taken to a DC hospital after experiencing chest pains

D-fusit on February 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Hmmm; I had a comment to make, but I think I won’t.

Midas on February 27, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Don’t we have some kind of rule about criminals having to be healthy when we execute them? Jus’ sayin’…..

dentarthurdent on February 27, 2014 at 12:37 PM

What will the tipping point be?

Could be one of several things:

1. Collapse of the dollar (imminent and inevitable due to the Regime’s irresponsible FED policy)
2. The government attempts an overt gun grab (imminent, as this is a prerequisite for the survival of the Regime).
3. Obama declares martial law and cancels elections.
4. Obama announces he will overstay his 2nd term.

ConstantineXI on February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

I’m sure the WH cabal and Dem leadership mulls over these scenarios regularly, none of which is out of the realm of possibilities.

It’s also not going to do him much good as long as the People are still armed.

That millions of armed citizens who would have some serious issues over any of these scenarios remains a bump in the road to overcome must be dealt with. Working on that problem too, no doubt.

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Meanwhile

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Timing?

…but because he knows that some GOPers will grow more sanguine about executive prerogatives once a Republican is back in the White House.

So, the rescue has enough phase-lag to allow Obama to abuse to the end, but early enough to stop GOP copycats, because:

“The fact that I happen to think the president is right on many of these policies…”

Tsar of Earth on February 27, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Right. Now I remember.

This is where Boehner and McConnell don’t want to stop the constitutional emasculation of Congress for fear of a bad headline and being called “radical”.

You know, fighting to keep power reserved for the people currently and exercised (well not really) by a feckless, weak, cowardly group who currently occupy the seats.

They wonder why people feel nobody is protecting them?

When you have to read a poll, do a focus group, check with the media and shut out anyone not agreeing with you in order to reach a decision- it’s not called leadership and it’s not coming from the heart.

That’s a “clue”.

Marcus Traianus on February 27, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. was taken to MedStar Washington Hospital Center on Thursday morning after experiencing faintness and shortness of breath.

Justice Department spokesman Brian Fallon said Holder, 63, had complained of the symptoms during his regular morning meeting with senior staff.

… let’s all say a prayer … but keep our intentions between ourselves and God

J_Crater on February 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Deliver us from evil…

I’ll keep praying that

: )

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM

At what phase…or maybe you forgot the / tag ? :)
Timing is everything. If you can nudge the sheep into the slaughter corral with a smile and a handful of hay, there’s no need to work up a sweat. When they start to resist then you start kicking and pull out the butcher hook.

Mimzey on February 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM

You can pretty much take most anything I comment as sarc. It’s just to the point where these are the same issues with the same root causes over and over. I guess joking about these things this way is a coping mechanism.

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM

“Overreach” only applies to conservatives.

GarandFan on February 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM

You’re right Turley but there’s nary a soul in our floundering government with guts enough to do anything about it, therefore, say hello to the new dictatorial state of Amerika.

rplat on February 27, 2014 at 12:44 PM

“Overreach” only applies to conservatives.

GarandFan on February 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM

“Reach-around” applies to liberals.

oldroy on February 27, 2014 at 12:46 PM

There is, at present, only one thing that can be done to counteract executive overreach: defund the executive. That power is enumerated to the House of Representatives.

There is no alternative. The House lacks the nerve and the will to vote on articles of impeachment. And then to have any effect, impeachment would require conviction in the Senate, a manifest impossibility if Reid even bothered to bring the House’s articles of impeachment to the floor. The Congress, at present, does not provide the needed counterweight.

The courts are not going to entertain lawsuits against the president, and will use “standing” and “injury” to prevent them from ever reaching trial. The Courts are not the answer.

The power of the purse is the one and only thing that the House of Representatives controls that would check the executive. And the Republicans won’t use it.

The precedents they are allowing to be established by inaction are frightening, and We, the People are fast approaching the tipping point, because our elected officials don’t see it.

de rigueur on February 27, 2014 at 12:47 PM

gwelf, thank you for the spot-on comments.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:47 PM

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