German govt officials: It’s time to cut our losses with these renewable subsidy programs already

posted at 1:21 pm on February 27, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

In the full throes of realization that their top-down, heavily subsidized energy-sector transition from fossil fuels and nuclear power to renewable sources has directly resulted in energy prices around three times higher than those in the United States — not to mention a resurgence of coal to close the practicality gap left by those renewables — the German government has been looking for a way to steeply revise the Energiewende program of which they were once so loud and proud. On Thursday, a group of German government officials submitted their recommendations to Chancellor Merkel for saving Germans some of the tens of billions of dollars they’re losing in renewable energy “investments” every year, including ideas for just getting rid of entire facets of the program. Via Bloomberg:

Germany should scrap its clean-energy subsidies because the system has driven up electricity costs for consumers and hasn’t spurred innovation or reduced greenhouse gases, a group of government advisers said.

Adding renewable-energy plants in Germany doesn’t cut Europe’s emissions because they’re released elsewhere, the Commission for Research and Innovation said in a report handed to Chancellor Angela Merkel today. The uncapped aid provided by the system known as EEG — about 23 billion euros ($31 billion) last year — doesn’t encourage new technologies, it said.

“The EEG isn’t a cost-efficient instrument for climate protection nor does it have a measurable impact on innovation,” the commission said in the report. “That’s why there is no basis for the continuation of the EEG.” …

The European Commission, the EU’s regulatory arm, is pressing Germany to auction off aid instead of granting fixed, uncapped subsidies, Merkel said today, according to a transcript sent by the government’s press office. “The EEG in its current form will be replaced by an auctioning system and will therefore also qualitatively change,” she said.

A similar industry report also came out this week, recommending that Germany stop cutting itself off at the knees by eschewing heightened natural gas production and instead jump on the bandwagon that’s helping to keep costs so much lower in the United States, via Reuters:

Germany’s current policy of rapidly deploying renewable energy should be redesigned to prevent its industry from losing global market share because of high power costs, a report by international think-tank IHS said on Thursday. …

The report said that if the policy was changed to focus on domestically produced gas and the expansion of technologically mature renewables such as onshore wind and solar power, Germany could still shift to low-carbon energy while reaping more benefits from exports, jobs, incomes, tax and royalties.

“Germany’s current path of increasingly high-cost energy will make the country less competitive,” Dan Yergin, IHS vice chairman who headed the study, said in a phone interview. …

Germany’s industrial power prices have risen around 60 percent since 2007, while those in the United States and China have risen less than 10 percent.

This has hit manufacturers that accounted for 21 percent of Germany’s economic output last year, one of the highest shares for a developed country, IHS said.

Despite Germany’s relatively strong manufacturing and export performance compared to the rest of the European Union, the report estimates that their mandated shift to renewables has cost them “€52bn in net export losses for the six-year period from 2008 to 2013.” Dang. That translates to a huge loss of competitiveness for the nation currently ranking as the economic leader of the EU, and if they’d like to keep it that way, they have some serious rethinking to do.


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It’s morning in…Germany…and twilight in America.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Das ist nicht gut!

philw1776 on February 27, 2014 at 1:32 PM

In the photo it looks like she’s trying to give someone else a Hitler ‘stache.

Flange on February 27, 2014 at 1:32 PM

German govt officials: It’s time to cut our losses with these renewable subsidy programs already

I’ll believe it when I see it…

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 27, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Eat it Germany.

itsspideyman on February 27, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Bad timing

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 1:37 PM

German pragmatism.

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I see she shaved off that unfortunate fashion statement from a few days ago.

NotCoach on February 27, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I’m sure the Obama administration is willing to step in here for the Germans.

Warren G. Harding on February 27, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Racists!!!!

/

JAGonzo on February 27, 2014 at 1:48 PM

It has occurred to some that there may not be much of a link between current levels of anthropogenic CO2 and any darn thing concerning the climate.

No doubt the climate is changing, and no doubt the 0.005% that anthropogenic CO2 now adds to the total 0.040% of CO2 currently in our atmosphere plays some small but unquantifiable roll in that process. But when the CO2 goes up 15% and…well look out the darn window. Somebody has been juggling the numbers in climate models to make CO2 killer #1 and civilization’s greatest threat.

Who will be the last one to figure out that the AGW political agenda is just an anti-capitalist meme? An application of Lakoffian metaphors to give righteous meaning to the morally vacuous? Ask Warmists if they remember the moment that they decided oil is evil, or did the realization just creep up on you? :-)

ShadrachSmith on February 27, 2014 at 1:49 PM

If she were smart, alas, she’d take Germany out of the EU.

They flourish and sustain all the other looters and thugs.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 1:50 PM

…and worst of all, the moochers of Europe and the Middle East and the former East bloc.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Looks like now is a good time to increase our investment in renewable programs one hundred fold.

– American Government Officials

HumpBot Salvation on February 27, 2014 at 1:51 PM

The envirotards will put up a fight though…

This at the daily mail.

Wind farms could be the key to stopping hurricanes devastating the US and costing billions of dollars of damage, researchers have claimed.
A team at Stanford simulated three of the biggest hurricanes ever to hit the US – Sandy, Isaac and Katrina – and found turbines at at sea could dramatically reduce the amount of damage they caused.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2568844/Could-wind-farms-stop-hurricanes-hitting-US-Stanford-team-say-turbines-tame-hurricanes-reach-land.html#ixzz2uY9uyDoH
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And some physicist announced that Tornadoes would be stopped if we built 1000 ft walls throughout Tornado Alley.

It will only cost $60 Billion for every 100 mile stretch.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Despite Germany’s relatively strong manufacturing and export performance compared to the rest of the European Union, the report estimates that their mandated shift to renewables has cost them “€52bn in net export losses for the six-year period from 2008 to 2013.” Dang. That translates to a huge loss of competitiveness for the nation currently ranking as the economic leader of the EU…

Umarmen die saugen!

Embrace the suck!

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Al Gore is in mourning………………

GarandFan on February 27, 2014 at 2:00 PM

No doubt the climate is changing, and no doubt the 0.005% that anthropogenic CO2 now adds to the total 0.040% of CO2 currently in our atmosphere plays some small but unquantifiable roll in that process. But when the CO2 goes up 15% and…well look out the darn window. Somebody has been juggling the numbers in climate models to make CO2 killer #1 and civilization’s greatest threat.

Who will be the last one to figure out that the AGW political agenda is just an anti-capitalist meme? An application of Lakoffian metaphors to give righteous meaning to the morally vacuous? Ask Warmists if they remember the moment that they decided oil is evil, or did the realization just creep up on you? :-)

ShadrachSmith on February 27, 2014 at 1:49 PM

You are behind the times. Methane is the planet killing AGW trace gas now. Especially methane produced from fracking, because it is pure 100% evil! CO2 is yesterdays news.

Johnnyreb on February 27, 2014 at 2:01 PM

And some physicist announced that Tornadoes would be stopped if we built 1000 ft walls throughout Tornado Alley.

It will only cost $60 Billion for every 100 mile stretch.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM

-What happens if the tornado touches down between the walls?

“SHUT THE F**K UP, MOUTH BREATHER!”

Bishop on February 27, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Ah, too bad. Was looking forward to visiting the solar-paneled Bavarian Alps.

de rigueur on February 27, 2014 at 2:02 PM

And some physicist announced that Tornadoes would be stopped if we built 1000 ft walls throughout Tornado Alley.

It will only cost $60 Billion for every 100 mile stretch.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Where is our Midwestern Maverick McCain? Just complete the danged fence! It’ll work this time.

de rigueur on February 27, 2014 at 2:06 PM

MSM, Obama etal,

“She is only saying these things because Pres. Obama is black and she hates blacks.”

Just because we say so.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 27, 2014 at 2:13 PM

The leftists and greens made a simple argument that the public bought: “we need clean energy regardless, and this provides jobs, and will help global warming the climate from changing.”

Turns out, the energy is erratic despite its huge expense, and “clean” is a matter of definition, certainly their windmills having been killing big birds by the millions. Jobs have been minimal compared to expense, and you are actually probably losing jobs because of the not so subtle negative economic effect of taxing and spending huge amounts of govt funds. Climate change? We know that’s a crock. And even if everything the fear mongers say is true, all their insane levels of spending on “renewables” actually would reduce temperature by a truly minuscule amount. But still they’re doing this all for climate change, nearly bankrupting their country an blighting their landscapes, and sending their energy costs through the roof, and businesses struggling or leaving Germany, all for the leftist wet dream of climate change. Insane.

On climate change, interesting article: Rewriting Their Own Past At The National Academy Of Sciences, an excerpt:

The National Academy of Sciences just released a new temperature graph (black and brown) which has been massively altered since their 1975 report (red.) Note that they have eliminated most of the 1940-1970 cooling.

Here is why the have to eliminate the the 1940-1970 cooling and the 1940 spike. The next graph appends the post 1970 2014 data to the 1975 data, normalized to 1968. If they didn’t tamper with the data, there is no global warming since 1940.

See graphs and data links at the article: http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/02/27/rewriting-their-own-past-at-the-national-academy-of-sciences/

anotherJoe on February 27, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Man, that was a short trip.

Red Cloud on February 27, 2014 at 2:20 PM

It’s hard to change European attitudes, even for the putatively hard-nosed Germans with their engineering. But the sight of money going down a rathole has a way of touching all but the coldest leftist hearts.

The fact is NONE of the “green subsidies” for energy anywhere in the world is going to develop new technologies, just to throw money at old tech with sometimes marginal improvements, which are useless in the big picture of things.

Adjoran on February 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM

And some physicist announced that Tornadoes would be stopped if we built 1000 ft walls throughout Tornado Alley.

It will only cost $60 Billion for every 100 mile stretch.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM

-What happens if the tornado touches down between the walls?

“SHUT THE F**K UP, MOUTH BREATHER!”

Bishop on February 27, 2014 at 2:02 PM

HA!

Yeah…a naysayer (Tornado scientist in Oklahoma) shot it down pdq.

He said China has lots of tornadoes…even though they have mountains….he also suggested that physicists stay within their disciplines.

The physicist is chinese and will present his plan at some international conference.

Funding is competitive…

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Al Gore is in mourning………………

GarandFan on February 27, 2014 at 2:00 PM

So are his bosses…OPEC

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 2:35 PM

“technologically mature renewables such as onshore wind” ??

wait a sec … won’t that harm Mother Gaia, too? by absorbing the power of the winds, they will alter the effects of winds on the entire weather system.

WaldoTJ on February 27, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Question: “O’, are you listening?” Answer: “Podesta, double down on subsidies to the Bird Killer Windmill Company.”

vnvet on February 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Soylent Green is people!

CO2 is plant food!

3-tour-vet on February 27, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Renewable energy is a fantasy. It doesn’t exist. Cannot exist.

Oldnuke on February 27, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Stupidest thing Merkel has done since being in power.

albill on February 27, 2014 at 7:44 PM

The German alternative energy subsidies, well anyone’s subsidies, allows people like the Greens to privatize their gains — gains do not have to be directly monetary — while the costs get socialized — when you spread the cost of something across a lot of people the individual cost becomes comparatively small.

Having ignored other penalties for the subsidies, now those penalties are coming home to roost or, at least, assert themselves. But Greens, and now those who chose to take advantage of the subsides and have a stake in their continuance, will insist that 1) those other costs do not matter when the goal is saving the planet and 2) alternate energy producers don’t want the gravy train to stop so YES continue to save the planet (so we can continue to profit).

Russ808 on February 28, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Renewable energy is a fantasy. It doesn’t exist. Cannot exist.
Oldnuke on February 27, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Obama will just issue a waiver for the Laws of Thermodynamics.

ReggieA on March 1, 2014 at 3:10 PM