ESPN host on Arizona’s religious freedom bill: What’s next, gays wearing yellow stars?

posted at 2:41 pm on February 27, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via NRO, a video exclamation point on the self-congratulatory hysteria that characterized the latest panic. Ace once described behavior like this as “moral peacocking”; by going Godwin so quickly, Tony K wants to be sure you know that he’s got bigger, brighter feathers than you. I don’t watch “Pardon the Interruption” so I can only imagine the heights of indignation that he reaches when the subject of “Redskins” comes up — although, in that case, at least he was ahead of the curve. For others, the transition from not regarding a particular practice as unjust to acknowledging that it’s unjust to ostentatiously quaking with rage at a mere accusation of related injustice seems to get shorter all the time.

David Harsanyi sums up where I am on all this:

Now, it’s not my business — or his — to parse the beliefs of people or bore into their souls, any more than it’s the business of believers to explain how my atheism works. (Though, I should mention, that most e-mails reacting to my non-belief from social conservatives over the years have only gently attempted to persuade me that God loves me, while most e-mails reacting to my defense of religious freedom have speculated on my furtive bigotry and intolerance.) What the media should have been parsing was the bill itself – a bill that I suspect Fournier and others in the negligent media didn’t take the time to read…

I’ve been writing pro-gay marriage posts since I became a columnist at the Denver Post a decade ago. And though I don’t believe any of those columns or interviews with many gay Coloradans made much of a difference in the world, I do realize I was exceedingly gullible in believing that any group would be content simply being “left alone.” It’s clear that coexisting doesn’t only mean having the freedom to take part in the civil institution of marriage, but it also means compelling others into participation and acceptance.

Ilya Shapiro, another libertarian who supports legal gay marriage, did in fact read the bill. It’s essentially the same bill as the one that the federal government, under Bill Clinton, adopted 20 years ago, except this one would apply to private lawsuits too:

SB 1062 does nothing more than align state law with the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (which passed the House unanimously, the Senate 97-3, and was signed by President Clinton in 1993). That is, no government action can “substantially burden” religious exercise unless the government uses “the least restrictive means” to further a “compelling interest.” This doesn’t mean that people can “do whatever they want” – laws against murder would still trump religious human sacrifice – but it would prevent the government from forcing people to violate their religion if that can at all be avoided. Moreover, there’s no mention of sexual orientation (or any other class or category)…

This isn’t the Jim Crow South; there are plenty of wedding photographers – over 100 in Albuquerque – and bakeries who would be willing to do business regardless of sexual orientation, and no state is enforcing segregation laws. I bet plenty of Arizona businesses would and do see more customers if they advertised that they welcomed the LGBT community.

I bet so too. Nearly every harangue about Arizona in this debate, Kornheiser’s included, claims the state is notoriously stubborn in resisting social change, but that’s contradicted by the polling. According to the Arizona Republic last year, a clear majority of 55 percent support legalizing gay marriage. Dozens of states, not just Arizona, include no provision for gays in their public accommodation laws. And yet here’s Kornheiser stammering about the prospect of Michael Sam not being able to buy a ticket to the Super Bowl in a case where the NFL intervened heavily to kill Arizona’s bill. That’s the point — market forces are already on the side of gay rights, so the risk of gays not getting served absent a new law is already minimal. Frankly, if, like me, Harsanyi, and Shapiro, you support gay marriage and want to make it easier for opponents to accept it, the worst thing you can do is pick a needless fight over religious liberty at an instant when the momentum’s entirely on your side. Let the believers refuse service if they want; some of them will serve you anyway in the interest of their bottom line and others who refuse service now will come around in time. The less people have to fear from gay marriage becoming legal, the easier it’ll be to make it happen — if, that is, that’s the goal. If this is really about some sort of cultural revenge on people who are anti-gay, then I’ve been as gullible as Harsanyi.

By the way, before you watch the clip, read this post by Jon Swerens on the media’s “ooooopsi” approach to moral panics and try to identify which phase Kornheiser’s at. He’s the fifth “O,” right?


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Christians wearing yellow stars.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 2:42 PM

“ESPN, your place for politics.”

hawkdriver on February 27, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Any word from ESPN supporting gun owners rights in Connecticut?

Flange on February 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Christians wearing yellow stars.

Whatever. Still churches on every street corner. Still God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Hysteria much?

lostmotherland on February 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Anybody still believe that the gay marriage farce is about “marriage equality” and not simply but one more way to drive Christianity out of existence?

MMK on February 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Please.

They’d be rainbow stars with glitter & sequins.

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Godwin’s law has been played, a little late IMO, but it has been called. I thought MSNBC would have been first.

Johnnyreb on February 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Whatever. Still churches on every street corner. Still God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Hysteria much?

lostmotherland on February 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM

The fact that there are still churches on street corners is proof that you and your ilk have failed. But you keep trying, right?

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Whatever. Still churches on every street corner. Still God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Hysteria much?

lostmotherland on February 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Because the State would never force religious institutions to act against their doctrine right?

Obamacare

Hysteria Denial much?

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Doesn’t this guy know anything? The Nazis made the gays wear pink patches on their sleeves, not yellow.

Flyovercountry on February 27, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Why isn’t ESPN talking sports?

Lucy43 on February 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM

So who will direct 12 Years a Gay in 2015?

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM

They’d be rainbow stars with glitter & sequins.

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM

That sounds fabulous.

You should see the hatred still directed at Brewer on Twitchy. The freaks just never relent.

John the Libertarian on February 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM

More likely it will be Christians with armbands.

Murphy9 on February 27, 2014 at 2:49 PM

You should see the hatred still directed at Brewer on Twitchy. The freaks just never relent.

John the Libertarian on February 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM

These “Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie” groups never relent.

You give a mouse a cookie, he’ll want a glass of milk.

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Anybody still believe that the gay marriage farce is about “marriage equality” and not simply but one more way to drive Christianity out of existence?

MMK on February 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM

The narrative is unraveling…kinda like Obamacare

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM

I would prefer rainbow pins, unless they are out walking their unicorns.

MikeinPRCA on February 27, 2014 at 2:51 PM

So who will direct 12 Years a Gay in 2015?

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM

They’d better be Gay Gay…cause Fluidity or something…

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 2:51 PM

They’d be rainbow stars with glitter & sequins.

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Definitely rainbows.
And they already self-identify with the rainbows – nobody is making them put those ID patches/pins/stickers on – they’re doing it themselves.

dentarthurdent on February 27, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Why isn’t ESPN talking sports?

Lucy43 on February 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM

That will be after the government mandated propaganda. So they had to cut it.

the_nile on February 27, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Were I to be sued by one of these gays for refusing to partake in their wedding celebrations I would seek compensation from all of these people who took to the airwaves to hyperventilate about the law.

ojfltx on February 27, 2014 at 2:54 PM

ROFL

Bishop on February 27, 2014 at 2:54 PM

The time for profiling has ended – it has got to stop.

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 2:54 PM

I admit, I made the mistake of believing the initial descriptions of this bill. Knowing what I know now about it basically being a minor tweak of RFRA I don’t see anything wrong with it at all. I place some of the blame on the people who passed the bill. They were totally unprepared for what was coming and totally inept in describing and defending it.

Mark1971 on February 27, 2014 at 2:54 PM

If this is really about some sort of cultural revenge on people who are anti-gay, then I’ve been as gullible as Harsanyi.

That’s just your nature. All will bend their will to teh ghey.

NotCoach on February 27, 2014 at 2:54 PM

What’s next, Rachael Maddow doing the play-by-play analysis for the NHL?

And speaking of political correctness in sports, it is time for the Redskins to change their name. They should keep the logo but name themselves after the Chief of the Powhatan tribes (Pocahontas’ dad)-

In other words they should be the Washington Wahunsonacocks. It’s alliterative and what one can do with “son-a-cock!”

Happy Nomad on February 27, 2014 at 2:55 PM

It isn’t anything about ‘leave us alone’. It’s YOU’LL ACCEPT AND ACKNOWLEDGE ME UNDER PAIN OF LAW!

GarandFan on February 27, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Stars are unnecessary. Everyone on planet earth has some degree of gaydar.

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 2:56 PM

You all know that Keith Olbermann originated from ESPN, right?

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Whatever. Still churches on every street corner. Still God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Hysteria much?

lostmotherland on February 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Why is that? Because of gerrymandering?

How do you think Ted Cruz became a Senator?

Gerrymandering.

lostmotherland on October 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Your non sequitur also makes no sense whatsoever.

NotCoach on February 27, 2014 at 2:57 PM

National Fagot League…

the_nile on February 27, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Here’s the thing, these guys are paid to jabber about sports.
They are not paid to think. Stop trying, man.

AllahsNippleHair on February 27, 2014 at 2:57 PM

This whole argument smells like prison sex to me…

Seven Percent Solution on February 27, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Did these two brain surgeons discuss NYC’s stop and frisk law before the last Super Bowl?

Bishop on February 27, 2014 at 2:58 PM

No, what’s next is that the Russians and Islamists are coming. The gays will be sorry they were so indecent and indiscreet.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 2:59 PM

This whole argument smells like prison sex to me…

Seven Percent Solution on February 27, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Did these two brain surgeons discuss NYC’s stop and frisk law before the last Super Bowl?

Bishop on February 27, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Whoa! What are the odds these two guys seeing each other!

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 2:59 PM

I am sorry to say – some of the comments in this thread are disgusting.

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 2:59 PM

I admit, I made the mistake of believing the initial descriptions of this bill. Knowing what I know now about it basically being a minor tweak of RFRA I don’t see anything wrong with it at all. I place some of the blame on the people who passed the bill. They were totally unprepared for what was coming and totally inept in describing and defending it.

Mark1971

All due respect, Mark …. I don’t think there’s a snowball’s chance that the media would allow an honest description of the bill to get out.

The institutional left has moved the goal posts – they now want everyone compelled to celebrate its policy preferences.

BD57 on February 27, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Or perhaps a Krystallnacht on the businesses that choose to exercise their religious freedom?

WryTrvllr on February 27, 2014 at 3:00 PM

If this is really about some sort of cultural revenge on people who are anti-gay, then I’ve been as gullible as Harsanyi.
Allahpundit on February 27, 2014 at 2:41 PM

The realization is beginning to dawn on you. Many of us on the correct side of this issue have warned that this is the end goal. It’s assuredly not about “wanting to be left alone.”

makattak on February 27, 2014 at 3:00 PM

All due respect, Mark …. I don’t think there’s a snowball’s chance that the media would allow an honest description of the bill to get out.

No, they wouldn’t. But I saw some of the defenders of the law on TV and they were like deer caught in the headlights.

Mark1971 on February 27, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Christians wearing yellow stars.

Whatever. Still churches on every street corner. Still God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Hysteria much?

lostmotherland on February 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM

On the money your john pays you too. Get in your ditch!

AllahsNippleHair on February 27, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Couldn’t stand to watch Monday Night Football when they had this Kornholer douche on the panel – he was such a whiney little b1tch – no interest in anything else he has to say.

dentarthurdent on February 27, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Whatever. Still churches on every street corner. Still God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Hysteria much?

lostmotherland on February 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM

We now know who lostmotherland is…

In response to the question ‘How do you think Ted Cruz became a Senator?’ one of Hot Air’s resident Progtard ‘scholars’ responded:

‘Gerrymandering.’

– lostmotherland on October 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM

So the State of Texas, IN ITS FVCKING ENTIRETY, is gerrymandered?

Gerrymandering only factors into House seats and state/local districts. And, of course, it is not limited to one party

– Me

lostmotherland = Touré

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 3:02 PM

lostmotherland = Touré

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 3:02 PM

In other words, “He blaaaack!”

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 3:03 PM

This is why I watch the Military Channel, so I can get a good preaching on the benefits of abortion.

Talk about sports, you halfwits, as in “Entertainment and SPORTS Programming”.

Bishop on February 27, 2014 at 3:04 PM

What’s next, Rachael Maddow doing the play-by-play analysis for the NHL?

And speaking of political correctness in sports, it is time for the Redskins to change their name. They should keep the logo but name themselves after the Chief of the Powhatan tribes (Pocahontas’ dad)-

In other words they should be the Washington Wahunsonacocks. It’s alliterative and what one can do with “son-a-cock!”

Happy Nomad on February 27, 2014 at 2:55 PM

I began reading your post and saw play. I thought, Rachel Maddow playboy and vomited.

AllahsNippleHair on February 27, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Sweat Boy! Sweat!

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 3:04 PM

I place some of the blame on the people who passed the bill. They were totally unprepared for what was coming and totally inept in describing and defending it.

Mark1971 on February 27, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Of course, it CAN’T be your fault for hyperventilating the way the media wanted you to.

And it CAN’T be your fault for failing to take the time to read the TWO PAGE bill (that, incidentally, was posted her multiple times.)

It’s the fault of the people who passed the bill… despite the fact that multiple people HERE tried to disabuse you of your, now admitted, false preconceptions of the bill. You’d have listened if the legislators told you the same things we did. Honest!

Maybe you ought to take a serious look to yourself rather than blaming other for your own over-reaction.

makattak on February 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Frankly, if, like me, Harsanyi, and Shapiro, you support gay marriage and want to make it easier for opponents to accept it, the worst thing you can do is pick a needless fight over religious liberty at an instant when the momentum’s entirely on your side. Let the believers refuse service if they want; some of them will serve you anyway in the interest of their bottom line and others who refuse service now will come around in time.
– Allah

Well, I am pretty much with you.
But nobody put together a bill intended to force bakers to make cakes for SSM ceremonies, etc. So you’ve got it backwards as to who is picking a fight. There is no case pending in AZ and there’s no state law that says you can’t discriminate based on sexual orientation.
I’d say AZ was being left on it’s own to progress just fine.

verbaluce on February 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

*her = here >.<

makattak on February 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Christians wearing yellow stars.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Yellow cloth crosses.

Fallon on February 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

You all know that Keith Olbermann originated from ESPN, right?

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Actually, he’s come full circle and rejoined them following his firing by Al Goreeza .

This is the same network that gave Dana “F*** Jesus” Jacobsen a slap on the wrist. Doesn’t surprise me.

blammm on February 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Sanctimonious & bitchy leftist clown-boys like Kornheiser who cant keep their politics out of sports entertainment are a big reason why i stopped watching ESPN altogether some years ago, even though i remain i diehard fan of all things athletic.

Sacramento on February 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

If this is really about some sort of cultural revenge on people who are anti-gay, then I’ve been as gullible as Harsanyi.

For some it’s about revenge , but mainly it’s about implementing a system of collective thought control, read your 1984.

the_nile on February 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 3:02 PM

I think a lot of us miss RWM

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM

But nobody put together a bill intended to force bakers to make cakes for SSM ceremonies, etc. So you’ve got it backwards as to who is picking a fight. There is no case pending in AZ and there’s no state law that says you can’t discriminate based on sexual orientation.
I’d say AZ was being left on it’s own to progress just fine.

verbaluce on February 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Yes, that’s exactly the case. Because what is clearly happening in other, adjacent states would NEVER happen in Arizona.

Unthinkable.

makattak on February 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Opportunity: First, we need a hot-button event that is a proper catalyst for the cycle. Recent examples were supplied by Chick-fil-A, Hobby Lobby, Susan G. Komen, and now, Arizona’s proposed law.
Outrage: Next, those on the opposite side of the culture wars make a lot of noise about “fairness” and “bigotry” and “tolerance.” Maybe they have a point, or maybe not, but it’s an important step in the news cycle.
Opposition: Then, the national media by and large adopts the definitions brought to them by the outraged. For example, in this week’s Arizona story, the media labeled the bill “anti-gay,” without the scare quotes. Such labeling was a tremendous victory for the outraged.
Oversimplification: As a part of its coverage, the media fails to add any nuance to the debate or closely examine the actual facts of what’s being argued, preferring to cover the horse race of two competing interests beating each other up.
Overreach: At some point, a mainline media outlet gets too cocky and goes a step too far in its boosterism. Other media momentarily shrink back in embarrassment.
Pendulum: Prompted by this misstep, a few media commentators rub their chins and publish thoughtful analysis pieces that ask if everyone is being a little too hard on the accused. The accused is still wrong, mind you, but we can be nicer about it.
Silence: After this, coverage ceases as the nation’s attention runs elsewhere.
Introspection: Finally, months later, on a Sunday news program, journalists will gather and ruminate about how they unfairly overstated one side of the debate. They pledge to do better next time.

I think the pendulum will swing back soon, especially now that the bill has been vetoed and all momentum has been lost.

I haven’t tested the theory with any rigor, but I’ve seen this kind of media cycle run several times. Let me know if you think I’m making sense — or not. I don’t want to start an OOOOOPSI cycle of my own.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Speaking of stars. Something even lost might understand. Take a break boy. Taking a break Boss.

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 3:08 PM

Christians wearing yellow stars.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Yellow cloth crosses.

Fallon on February 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Yeah.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 3:08 PM

I think a lot of us miss RWM

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM

+ 200 million sane people

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 3:08 PM

i’m so bored with all the gay threads…

Sachiko on February 27, 2014 at 3:09 PM

i’m so bored with all the gay threads…

Sachiko on February 27, 2014 at 3:09 PM

That might actually be the best reaction possible.

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 3:10 PM

I think he has yellow fungus growing inside his brain.

VorDaj on February 27, 2014 at 3:10 PM

“gerrymander” lostmotherland,

Some nonconformists are more equal than others.

http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/5-29-13.cfm

If you have a problem with the sale, transport, service, or check out of alcohol, get another job. Likewise, common sense on the wedding cakes escapes you.

mwbri on February 27, 2014 at 3:10 PM

No. Christians wearing yellow stars.

michaelo on February 27, 2014 at 3:11 PM

We’ve already lost the culture. I can’t turn on my TV,radio, or computer without having to hear or read something about homosexuality. It’s like the media is making it even harder for parents of young children to avoid this. I don’t care what homosexuals do, but please leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone. Isn’t that called tolerance?

OliverB on February 27, 2014 at 3:11 PM

NFL got rattled when the fascists started the Helmut & Redskin media puscht…

Bullying works.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Here’s the bill:
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/51leg/2r/bills/sb1062p.pdf

nothing about homosexuality in it.

And what about interfaith marriages? When my sister (nominally Christian) and her fiance (observant Jew) wanted to get married, they had a tough time finding a rabbi who’d do an interfaith wedding. Now suppose it had been a Jewish photographer who disapproved of interfaith marriages? Thanks for letting us know, we’ll find someone else.

rbj on February 27, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Oi vey, Kornheiserbergstein, it’s a pink triangle, not a yellow star.

Get your godwin, right.

HugoDrax on February 27, 2014 at 3:12 PM

If this is really about some sort of cultural revenge on people who are anti-gay, then I’ve been as gullible as Harsanyi.

Acknowledgement is the first step.

As I and a number of others have pointed out for sometime, the “leave us be” argument was the 90′s.

It’s mutated. Every 5-10 years.

The average LGB American has really no idea who their advocates are and who they associate with.

So Let it burn. We saw what it took to wake people up to 0Care. The same thing is going to happen here.

Once the Church of England bends over and opens the door to ghey mirage, the lawsuits will be flying in France, Canada, Italy, Germany.

Then, LGBUSA we’ll see what international precedent has been established. They were taken aback by the French debate, so they need the UK to press the EU.

And this is exactly what Putin understands. The more the prog minority pushes Christians, the more they are going to step away leaving a void for hardliners to fill. That’s his new coalition and the final nail in the EU.

And whatever comes of it, how bad it gets between the Aryan Crusaders of the Netherlands and Abu Sayiff franchisees across the coastline, sa la vie.

budfox on February 27, 2014 at 3:12 PM

I’d say AZ was being left on it’s own to progress just fine.

verbaluce on February 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

All those that ‘figured’ verbie wouldn’t say that stand on your heads.

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 3:12 PM

i’m so bored with all the gay threads…

Sachiko on February 27, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Be gay. It’s pretty entertaining. The threads expose hilarity.

p.s. jake, my friend, you are NOT the HA hall monitor; it’s a leftist trait to tell grown-ups what to say.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 3:13 PM

ESPN has been left-wing for years. They just figure they can be more open about it of late.

I’ve stopped reading the website–Bosox Bill whatsisface’s rending of garments over a Grantland piece about a transsexual con artist that supposedly showed a lack of sensitivity was the last straw.

DRPrice on February 27, 2014 at 3:13 PM

If this is really about some sort of cultural revenge on people who are anti-gay, then I’ve been as gullible as Harsanyi.
- allahpundit

Revenge is not the goal. Control and power are the goal.

gwelf on February 27, 2014 at 3:13 PM

All will bend their will to teh ghey

Heh. Try telling that to Him.

Wisdom_of_Homer on February 27, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Anybody still believe that the gay marriage farce is about “marriage equality” and not simply but one more way to drive Christianity out of existence?

MMK on February 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM

I think it is about marriage equality for most. The problem is the people pushing gay marriage the hardest via the courts are a bunch of secularists who have no respect whatsoever for religious freedoms or the First Amendment.

I’ve long supported gay marriage(albeit on the ballot, not with judges shoving it down our throats). But where the gay mafia loses me is if they’re telling me that the price of gay marriage is the oppression of people’s religious rights. Sorry, but if I’m forced to pick sides in that fight, I’ll stick with the Constitution.

Doughboy on February 27, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Well, I am pretty much with you.
But nobody put together a bill intended to force bakers to make cakes for SSM ceremonies, etc.

verbaluce on February 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Right, because the lawsuits that resulted in the courts ordering a baker and a photog to use their services for teh ghey marriages are actually fictional accounts…

NotCoach on February 27, 2014 at 3:14 PM

What’s next, Rachael Maddow doing the play-by-play analysis for the NHL?

And speaking of political correctness in sports, it is time for the Redskins to change their name. They should keep the logo but name themselves after the Chief of the Powhatan tribes (Pocahontas’ dad)-

In other words they should be the Washington Wahunsonacocks. It’s alliterative and what one can do with “son-a-cock!”

Happy Nomad on February 27, 2014 at 2:55 PM

If they are forced to change, I favor ‘Washington Porkers’. Their uniforms could feature a fat little pig holding bundles of cash.

slickwillie2001 on February 27, 2014 at 3:14 PM

p.s. jake, my friend, you are NOT the HA hall monitor; it’s a leftist trait to tell grown-ups what to say.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 3:13 PM

He will eventually learn to grow thicker feathers.

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Shouldn’t those be pink stars?

Brewer shows herself to be just another RINO willing to pander to the perpetually offended drama-queens at the expense of those simply wanting their rights of freedom of association preserved.

viking01 on February 27, 2014 at 3:15 PM

To my fellow conservatives: it is over.

Our country is screwed. The liberals have coopted the mindless, and we are now outnumbered. It was great being on The titanic with all of you, but it is now every man for himself.

uncle jj on February 27, 2014 at 3:15 PM

He will eventually learn to grow thicker feathers.

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Dream on – when I see idiot bigoted comments – I will speak out.

Deal with me – I’m not going anywhere.

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 3:16 PM

That might actually be the best reaction possible.

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 3:10 PM

I think he has yellow fungus growing inside his brain.

VorDaj on February 27, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Perfect timing, VorDaj.

NotCoach on February 27, 2014 at 3:16 PM

And whatever comes of it, how bad it gets between the Aryan Crusaders of the Netherlands and Abu Sayiff franchisees across the coastline, sa c’est la vie.

budfox on February 27, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Let it be. The Russians and the Islamists will win, one or the other. The indiscreet ones will be sorry they exposed themselves.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 3:16 PM

We’ve already lost the culture. I can’t turn on my TV,radio, or computer without having to hear or read something about homosexuality. It’s like the media is making it even harder for parents of young children to avoid this. I don’t care what homosexuals do, but please leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone. Isn’t that called tolerance?

OliverB on February 27, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Coercion

Like Racism which is only applicable to white privilege cause see minorities can’t be racist…Tolerance is only applied in one direction because Gays are incapable of intolerance.

Pretzel logic.

You will be made to care…You will be made to decide…You will be made to conform.

They use it cause it works.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 3:16 PM

I think it is about marriage equality for most. The problem is the people pushing gay marriage the hardest via the courts are a bunch of secularists who have no respect whatsoever for religious freedoms or the First Amendment.

I’ve long supported gay marriage(albeit on the ballot, not with judges shoving it down our throats). But where the gay mafia loses me is if they’re telling me that the price of gay marriage is the oppression of people’s religious rights. Sorry, but if I’m forced to pick sides in that fight, I’ll stick with the Constitution.

Doughboy on February 27, 2014 at 3:14 PM

Well said DB.

bazil9 on February 27, 2014 at 3:17 PM

It’s like the media is making it even harder for parents of young children to avoid this. I don’t care what homosexuals do, but please leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone. Isn’t that called tolerance?

The response is “tough.” “Live and let live” was never, ever the goal. It was a rhetorical hook to disarm good-hearted people. Nope–now that they are in the driver’s seat, “live and let live” is a sign of unacceptable phobic hatred.

You will be forced to approve, your children will be taught the new “normal” and all of you will be expected to conform.

DRPrice on February 27, 2014 at 3:17 PM

I admit, I made the mistake of believing the initial descriptions of this bill. Knowing what I know now about it basically being a minor tweak of RFRA I don’t see anything wrong with it at all. I place some of the blame on the people who passed the bill. They were totally unprepared for what was coming and totally inept in describing and defending it.

Mark1971 on February 27, 2014 at 2:54 PM

I agree that AZ legislators should have anticipated the left’s tactics, and been better prepared to explain to the public exactly what the bill would have done. It’s not as if we haven’t been here before.

Remember the immigration bill, S.B. 1070, that Obama and his cronies shrieked was the equivalent of allowing AZ cops to become Nazi brownshirts, demanding “show me your papers” from innocent hispanics just trying to walk to the ice cream store with their kiddies? All the bill would have done was allow AZ cops, who had already stopped a suspect for another violation, to ask a suspect about their immigration status if the cop had reasonable suspicion to believe they were an illegal alien. Given that AZ is a major gateway for illegal entry, it was a perfectly reasonable proposal. But the left, led by their Demagogue-in-Chief, responded like the clueless lunatics they are.

The hysteria over the religious freedom bill was stoked by the same kind of MSM-fed b.s. “Jim Crow laws for gays!” might make a catchy lead-in, but it had nothing to do with the actual bill. But having a rational discussion about how to balance competing rights is apparently too much to expect from these idiots.

AZCoyote on February 27, 2014 at 3:18 PM

In reality, Gays were forced to wear pink triangles.

ronsfi on February 27, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Christians wearing yellow stars.

Whatever. Still churches on every street corner. Still God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Hysteria much?

lostmotherland on February 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM

gay Studies in every major university in America….
..and high school….

Hystrionics Much??

ToddPA on February 27, 2014 at 3:18 PM

What is Next is Christians wearing Yellow Crosses!

jaydee_007 on February 27, 2014 at 3:18 PM

For others, the transition from not regarding a particular practice as unjust to acknowledging that it’s unjust to ostentatiously quaking with rage at a mere accusation of related injustice seems to get shorter all the time.

Brilliant observation, truly. I am continually amazed by this spectacle.

somewhatconcerned on February 27, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Deal with me – I’m not going anywhere.

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 3:16 PM

I don’t want you to go anywhere.

We don’t disagree much.

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Deal with me – I’m not going anywhere.

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Don’t go, please. It’s way more fun with you around. The new trolls are boring and we need hectors and nags from the right.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 3:20 PM

We don’t disagree much.

Lanceman on February 27, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Thank you sir – my apologies to you directly – I hate this subject.

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 3:21 PM

But having a rational discussion about how to balance competing rights is apparently too much to expect from these idiots.

Of course not! The goal is not to discuss, but to end discussion. Once and for all, like a social ratchet. Your views are to be delegitimized, not offered a forum. And your erstwhile “friends” in the GOP and Chamber of Commerce are all too happy to help.

DRPrice on February 27, 2014 at 3:21 PM

What is next is a baker forced to do a gay wedding cake adding 5 pounds of salt to the batter. Or a photographer taking wedding pictures and cutting off all the heads…

Eff You. Pay Me.

Kuffar on February 27, 2014 at 3:21 PM

The new trolls are boring and we need hectors and nags from the right.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Ok – for your humor I also offer an apology. Jeepers – wish we could another Ted Cruz thread!

D’oh

jake-the-goose on February 27, 2014 at 3:22 PM

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