Boehner: The subject Obama and I most agreed on at our meeting yesterday was … immigration

posted at 4:01 pm on February 27, 2014 by Allahpundit

I’m officially nervous but I’m not sure why. Boehner’s been doing this two-step, talking up immigration reform to reassure amnesty fans that it’s on his radar and then downplaying it to reassure conservatives, for years now. Maybe it’s the fact that he and The One huddled about it in a private White House meeting? Sounds important! Whether it really was or not.

Maybe they were merely sharing a laugh over Pelosi’s “discharge petition” idea, a cheap and easy way to make it look to amnesty supporters like Democrats are driving a hard bargain before they inevitably end up voting for whatever Boehner brings to the floor.

At his weekly news conference today, Boehner was asked what he and the president agreed on the most.

“Immigration,” Boehner said. “We had a very healthy conversation on immigration.”

When asked to elaborate, Boehner gave a long pause and finally said: “You asked a question and I gave you the answer.”…

Boehner could have taken the easy way out of the question by saying that he and the president agreed on supporting the troops, or something similarly general. But he decided to say immigration. And inside the Beltway, one word often speaks volumes.

Relatedly, here’s something I read a few days ago about why so many establishment Republicans wanted Jan Brewer to veto Arizona’s religious freedom bill:

If Brewer signs the legislation, the major concern of party strategists is that opponents would launch an effort to overturn it. A referendum in November would allow the debate about whether denying services to gays is discriminatory to simmer through November, drawing global attention and increasing turnout among younger, liberal voters.

No speedbumps before the midterms. That’s the argument that’s been deployed every time the congressional GOP faces a thorny issue, like the latest debt-ceiling hike. We’re on a glide path to taking back the Senate thanks to ObamaCare’s endless pratfalls, the theory goes. Why on earth would the party jeopardize that by taking a stand on anything contentious right now? You’ll hear that logic again and again from the leadership over the next eight months — except on one issue. Can you guess what it is?

Meanwhile, behold the latest numbers from Pew on immigration reform. See now why the GOP leadership keeps talking up legalization but adamantly refuses to consider a special path to citizenship? They can sell legalization to every demographic — tea partiers included — but support starts to break down once you start asking about ultimate legal status:

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That poll’s flawed insofar as it doesn’t specify “citizenship through existing channels,” i.e. the House leadership’s position, as an option but it’s still useful in showing why Democrats should and probably will take whatever Boehner offers them. There’s a public consensus right now on legalization; citizenship will inevitably follow, consensus or not, but demanding it upfront as a condition of reform could blow up the whole thing. Obama’s (and Pelosi’s) task is to convince Democrats to take half a loaf now in full assurance that they’ll get the other half later. Is The One so badly weakened that he can’t even manage a messaging job like that within his own party? Maybe that’s what he and Boehner talked about yesterday.

Exit quotation from Ted Cruz: “If the House went down the road of passing a majority amnesty plan, I think that could screw up the election. I think the odds of Harry Reid remaining majority leader would jump tenfold.”


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Bend over and cough
This won’t hurt a bit

LeftCoastRight on February 27, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Graft brings them together.

the_nile on February 27, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Birds of a feather sh*t on America together…

xNavigator on February 27, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Tears of a clown…

d1carter on February 27, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Adios…

Seven Percent Solution on February 27, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Hey John GFY…

sandee on February 27, 2014 at 4:07 PM

But the tea partiers are the problem. See conservatives, if you would just bend over and just take it, then we could get some bipartisan action!

NWConservative on February 27, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Now Boehner is just poking the TEA Party Bear for fun.

Either he’s suicidal or he just doesn’t give a damn.

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Nice pic…a pair of Jackazzes.

Hey John, what’d ya say, let’s go have another drink

ToddPA on February 27, 2014 at 4:08 PM

But the tea partiers are the problem. See conservatives, if you would just bend over and just take it, then we could get some bipartisan action!

NWConservative on February 27, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Hey, that’s KingGold’s line.

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 4:09 PM

BFF’s.

Bishop on February 27, 2014 at 4:09 PM

That PEW poll is a farce.

The Pew poll did not elaborate on what such requirements to achieve legal status would be.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/pew-finds-broad-support-for-immigrants-104038.html#ixzz2uYSlh7Nj

Wigglesworth on February 27, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Now Boehner is just poking the TEA Party Bear for fun.

Either he’s suicidal or he just doesn’t give a damn.

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 4:08 PM

He’s a notorious asshole.

the_nile on February 27, 2014 at 4:10 PM

So will it be known as Boehnergration?

Ukiah on February 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM

A Third Party is near.

Exhibit A) Ken Langone fundraising for Christie AND Cuomo
Exhibit B) Chris Matthews yelling about Cruz as a threat to the two party system

mjbrooks3 on February 27, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Exit quotation from Ted Cruz: “If the House went down the road of passing a majority amnesty plan, I think that could screw up the election. I think the odds of Harry Reid remaining majority leader would jump tenfold.”

The only one who gets it.

AllahsNippleHair on February 27, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Just dissolve the political border all together and print enough dollars to lift the entire world out of poverty you greedy racists!

Murphy9 on February 27, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Oh great. Everyone is going to get another case of the vapors. They are both just pandering.

Johnnyreb on February 27, 2014 at 4:16 PM

So will it be known as Boehnergration?

Ukiah on February 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM

You’re can be sure someone is getting boned in any agreement between those two.

HumpBot Salvation on February 27, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Ted’s never gotten anything right before, so why should that change now? And that little stunt you folks pulled in Arizona means that we’ve got to get the bad taste out of the public’s mouth one way or another. This is it.

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Boehner would fold in a poker game if he were holding 4 aces. He’d be afraid that the losers would complain if he won… then he would cry.

tominsd on February 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Amarica, close your collective azz because these two are about to rape you royally.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 4:18 PM

If Brewer signs the legislation, the major concern of party strategists is that opponents would launch an effort to overturn it.

QUICK! DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! IF WE FIGHT FOR OUR GOALS, THE LEFT MAY FIGHT BACK!

…Good grief, the GOPe sucks.

Stoic Patriot on February 27, 2014 at 4:18 PM

So this is how the Political Elite Ruling Class will stay in power…

… Water down all our votes with millions of low information cattle that will humbly vote as told by their betters.

After that, any dissent will be met with the full force and power of the IRS, NSA, EPA, FBI, etc. like what happened to the TEA Party, but this time they have a billion rounds of ammo to use…

… Don’t think so?

Who’s going to stop them, the Press…?

Seven Percent Solution on February 27, 2014 at 4:18 PM

All who’re for amnesty, which is NOT immigration reform, are traitors to the American workers and the land.

Every single one of them MUST be thrown out in Nov.

Otherwise perish.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Amarica America close your collective azz because these two are about to rape you royally.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Ted’s never gotten anything right before, so why should that change now? And that little stunt you folks pulled in Arizona means that we’ve got to get the bad taste out of the public’s mouth one way or another. This is it.

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

We cant all be winners , like president Mitt Romney…

the_nile on February 27, 2014 at 4:19 PM

We really need to get rid of this weepy idiot.

AZCoyote on February 27, 2014 at 4:19 PM

I’m officially nervous but I’m not sure why.

Boehner enjoyed sex with King Obama and Nancy filmed it…nuthin’ to be nervous about

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 4:20 PM

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

You’re not very bright and you’re blind too.

Since the 60s you’ve been doing the same thing, expecting different results. Ronald Reagan was even more ostracized, by both sides, than is Ted Cruz.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 4:20 PM

QUICK! DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! IF WE FIGHT FOR OUR GOALS, THE LEFT MAY FIGHT BACK!

…Good grief, the GOPe sucks.

Stoic Patriot on February 27, 2014 at 4:18 PM

It’s like GOP is just a pretend opposition party…

the_nile on February 27, 2014 at 4:21 PM

surrender monkeys are sub human mongrels too.

dmacleo on February 27, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Boehner: The subject Obama and I most agreed on at our meeting yesterday was … immigration Amnesty/Rewards for Invaders/Serf Labor/Death to America by Demographic Pressure Cooker

Boehner must already be counting his present and future Chamber of Commerce big money payoff. The Navy had it right when they expelled his pathetic ass after 6 weeks. Boehner is as useless and as pathetic a man as God ever created.

VorDaj on February 27, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Pitchfork this pig in Nov., politically, or go to Hades with him.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Exit quotation from Ted Cruz: “If the House went down the road of passing a majority amnesty plan, I think that could screw up the election. I think the odds of Harry Reid remaining majority leader would jump tenfold.”

Ted Cruz understands. Why the hell doesn’t anyone else? You know, if they’d take the time to actually talk to their own base, it would be rather enlightening.

Doughboy on February 27, 2014 at 4:22 PM

That PEW poll is a farce.

The Pew poll did not elaborate on what such requirements to achieve legal status would be.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/pew-finds-broad-support-for-immigrants-104038.html#ixzz2uYSlh7Nj

Wigglesworth on February 27, 2014 at 4:10 PM

PEW is the least ethical and the most partisan of all the pollsters. They admitted after the fact that they helped drive McCain-Fiengold through push-polling and biased polls.

Don’t take any of their data seriously.

slickwillie2001 on February 27, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller Feb 25

Full Boehner aide readout pic.twitter.com/kBu2gdXk6E

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/438375020083949568/photo/1/large

canopfor on February 27, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Once again, Boehner proves that he’s too bloody feckless to remain as Speaker.

Athos on February 27, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Hey, that’s KingGold’s line.

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 4:09 PM

I figured I would say what everyone else is thinking. Time to bend over! Cause Mitch McConnell is getting that gavel.

Then the REAL fun starts!

When winning = losing and losing = losing in the GOP, how could you not enjoy the clown show? Expect more capitulation and “bipartisan” action in the lame duck too. A parting slap in the face to everyone who trusts GOP politicians.

NWConservative on February 27, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Bmore, please exchange Putin with Boehner. Thanks ahead.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Exhibit B) Chris Matthews yelling about Cruz as a threat to the two party system

mjbrooks3 on February 27, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Spectacular.

How do tingler explain why that would be bad?

the_nile on February 27, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Bmore, better one

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Ted Cruz understands. Why the hell doesn’t anyone else? You know, if they’d take the time to actually talk to their own base, it would be rather enlightening.

Doughboy on February 27, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Everyone knows it’s a disaster, but corruption got to corrupt.

the_nile on February 27, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Pitchfork this pig in Nov., politically, or go to Hades with him.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 4:22 PM

No, no, no! Party Unity and Discipline are all that is required of conservatives! Leave principles at the door please!

NWConservative on February 27, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Frank Thorp V ‏@frankthorpNBC Feb 25

Per the Speaker’s office, today’s mtg btwn Boehner and Pres Obama was the 1st 1-on-1 mtg btwn the two since Dec. 17, 2012
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Per a Boehner aide, Pres Obama and the Speaker “agreed that there is a lot (of) work to do the rest of the year.”
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Per Boehner aide: Boehner/Obama discussed (2/2): -the Appropriations process -California drought relief -wildfire suppression -highway bill
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Per Boehner aide: Boehner/Obama discussed (1/2): -manufacturing -trade promotion authority -flood insurance -immigration -ACA -Afghanistan
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An aide to Speaker Boehner says “The President and Speaker had a constructive conversation in the Oval Office for about an hour today.”
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Boehner returns to the Capitol and tells press of his mtg at the WH with Pres Obama: “We had a nice meeting”
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canopfor on February 27, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Anything to bring in more tax revenue, eh? Even if it means the destruction of our nation.

sadatoni on February 27, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Grovelling
Obeisant
Pathetic

I heard some Mexican boasting that this illegal alien tsunami as “revenge for the Alamo”. Huh???? I thought we ALSO lost the Alamo Battle.

MaiDee on February 27, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Boehner returns to the Capitol and tells press of his mtg at the WH with Pres Obama: “We had a nice meeting”
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canopfor on February 27, 2014 at 4:28 PM

See. Boehner plays patty cake and has tea-time with Obama while the IRS, DOJ, Courts, and other psychotic leftists orgs and individuals run roughshod over the American people.

NWConservative on February 27, 2014 at 4:30 PM

The only one who gets it.

AllahsNippleHair on February 27, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Yeah, that was a pretty direct shot across the bows. Boehner can’t claim he wasn’t warned if it all spins down the porcelain bowl.

butch on February 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Ted’s never gotten anything right before, so why should that change now? And that little stunt you folks pulled in Arizona means that we’ve got to get the bad taste out of the public’s mouth one way or another. This is it.

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Are you Boehner’s or McConnell’s personal ball washer?

HumpBot Salvation on February 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Are you Boehner’s or McConnell’s personal ball washer?

HumpBot Salvation on February 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM

He’s both. But you better watch out or he will issue a strongly worded statement against you.

NWConservative on February 27, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Ted’s never gotten anything right before, so why should that change now? And that little stunt you folks pulled in Arizona means that we’ve got to get the bad taste out of the public’s mouth one way or another. This is it.

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Are you Boehner’s or McConnell’s personal ball washer?

HumpBot Salvation on February 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM

They don’t call him BJ for nothing.

AllahsNippleHair on February 27, 2014 at 4:37 PM

I for one am going ask my (R) congressman if he will support Boehner for speaker next session, and I’ll tell him to think carefully before he answers, my vote is riding on it.

lowandslow on February 27, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Chris Matthews yelling about Cruz as a threat to the two party system

mjbrooks3 on February 27, 2014 at 4:14 PM

The land s/b so lucky.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 4:39 PM

http://firethespeaker.com/marklevin

diogenes on February 27, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Proceeding cautiously instead of deliberately is a recipe for disaster. Eventually what happens is events overtake you, instead of you shaping events in an offensive manner.

Mark my words, before the election something will happen which puts Republicans at a great disadvantage. The more issues you fail to address, the greater risk they create in the future.

Marcus Traianus on February 27, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Say “Good Night America”

Speaking of whiners, notice the number of losers who cannot control themselves from attacking Republicans even on a topic about Obama’s lawless excesses. It is going to be hard to defeat the Democrats with these little rodents biting at the ankles of our own.

Adjoran on February 27, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 4:41 PM

It’s just talk.

Akzed on February 27, 2014 at 4:41 PM

The next subject should be TRAITORS.

TX-96 on February 27, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Bwahahahahahahaha

nothing but theater for suckers

roflmmfao

donabernathy on February 27, 2014 at 4:46 PM

I was watching that Lindsey Lohan movie ‘The Canyons” the other day. It was a terrible movie, and one of the things that made it so terrible was the fact that Lindsey Lohan just looked so effed up, that I couldn’t see much else. It was a total distraction. She looked like she was so effed up that it was a miracle that she managed to make it to the set that day. Like someone was having to prop her up off-camera.

That’s the impression that I get of Boehner

WhatSlushfund on February 27, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Mark my words, before the election something will happen which puts Republicans at a great disadvantage. The more issues you fail to address, the greater risk they create in the future.

Agreed, but what will it be? Where will the left turn the tables on a previously winning position from the right.
We see how it happened in Arizona. Religious liberty was turned into bigotry by the MSM.
What’s next?

LeftCoastRight on February 27, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Ted Cruz understands. Why the hell doesn’t anyone else? You know, if they’d take the time to actually talk to their own base, it would be rather enlightening.

Doughboy on February 27, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Oh, I think they know EXACTLY what the base thinks, which is why they hate us and love the Democrats. We’re regarded as a bunch of barely literate, drooling hicks that live in the backwoods and frankly shouldn’t be allowed to tie their own shoes, much less vote or talk about politics.

Doomberg on February 27, 2014 at 4:53 PM

portlandon on February 27, 2014 at 4:08 PM

The Tea Party, in my neck of the woods, is running anti-Boehner ads on the local rock-and-roll stations. And yeah… the May primary date is fast approaching with all the District 8 TP groups in open revolt.

We shall see what we shall see…

CPT. Charles on February 27, 2014 at 4:55 PM

I dont know why anyone would be surprised about that. When half the party complains about immigration deform merely in terms of “timing”, then its only a question of time before it really happens. I would be surprised if they wait till next year. The outgoing lame-duck congress will do it.

Valkyriepundit on February 27, 2014 at 4:56 PM

The only one who gets it.

AllahsNippleHair on February 27, 2014 at 4:14 PM

I would bet the democrats also get it. As does the MSM which is why both are pushing so hard for the republicans to pass something. The only ones that seem not to get it are the republicans in Congress.

Lucy43 on February 27, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Don’t miss this

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 5:05 PM

I heard some Mexican boasting that this illegal alien tsunami as “revenge for the Alamo”. Huh???? I thought we ALSO lost the Alamo Battle.

MaiDee on February 27, 2014 at 4:29 PM

“We” if you are a Texan. Texans lost the battle, won the war for Texas independence. The Alamo has been a sacred symbol for Texas ever since. Still stigmatizes some Mexicans, evidently.

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2014 at 5:06 PM

The conversation went something like this.

“Hey John, where would you like to be ambassador?”

“Somewhere in Europe would be nice.”

“Alright, let’s get that immigration reform passed and then, when you retire this coming year, I’ll be sure to appoint you ambassador to the country of your choice. See how we get along?”

Baggi on February 27, 2014 at 5:06 PM

obama urged Boehner to do the same.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 5:09 PM

I suggest emigration of O’, Boner, Reid, et al…

vnvet on February 27, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Wow! “Boehner about to betray us on amnesty scare 2014 #2″ – and it’s only February.

Rattle the cage and set the monkeys squealing. Works every time.

Because monkeys are good at throwing poop, not so good at learning from their mistakes.

Adjoran on February 27, 2014 at 5:30 PM

At his weekly news conference today, Boehner was asked what he and the president agreed on the most.

“Immigration,” Boehner said. “We had a very healthy conversation on immigration.”

We both agreed it’s got a snowballs chance in hell of being passed this year.

GarandFan on February 27, 2014 at 5:30 PM

I’m officially nervous but I’m not sure why

We all know why AP. Embrace the suck

Brock Robamney on February 27, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Allah, this could have until tomorrow. You usually save this for weekend drive home.

DanMan on February 27, 2014 at 5:44 PM

A Third Party is near.

Exhibit A) Ken Langone fundraising for Christie AND Cuomo
Exhibit B) Chris Matthews yelling about Cruz as a threat to the two party system

mjbrooks3 on February 27, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong. But, I think you need a second party before you can have a third party.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on February 27, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Boehner needs to go.

MikeinPRCA on February 27, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Very surprised more GOPe folk haven’t shown up on this thread to explain to me how this can only be the fault of TEA and Cruz. Paging BrianJ the coward.

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Boehner sees the full fledged “Traitor” in war time, while in the U.S. Navy Reserve Lt. for life John F. Kerry getting elected Senator, then running for Pres. then getting the job of Sec. of State, so he thinks the traitor road is not all that bad.

First crime was allowing Kerry to get away with treason.

Now others see the path too.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 27, 2014 at 6:19 PM

If only Boehner was faking a “rope-a-dope” deal, playing the commie Democrats until Nov. 4th, but then we know these belly crawling worms all to well.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 27, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Amnesty will be passed in the lame duck session of Congress. Count on it.

Charlemagne on February 27, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Pew never asked me.

What about asking which concrete legislation should be passed?

http://www.jmisys.com/immigrationmarches/zogby5.html

What about the 2012 GOP platform pledge?

http://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_Reforming/#Item11

We recognize that for most of those seeking entry into this country, the lack of respect for the rule of law in their homelands has meant economic exploitation and political oppression by corrupt elites. In this country, the rule of law guarantees equal treatment to every individual, including more than one million immigrants to whom we grant permanent residence every year. That is why we oppose any form of amnesty for those who, by intentionally violating the law, disadvantage those who have obeyed it. Granting amnesty only rewards and encourages more law breaking.

Screw you, Boehner.

fred5678 on February 27, 2014 at 6:38 PM

“Immigration,” Boehner said. “We had a very healthy conversation on immigration.”

Deport both of these lowlife scumbags to Indonesia. The Weeper can be Barky’s new transvestite maid.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 27, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Ted’s never gotten anything right before, so why should that change now? And that little stunt you folks pulled in Arizona means that we’ve got to get the bad taste out of the public’s mouth one way or another. This is it.

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

…blow me!

KOOLAID2 on February 27, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Ted’s never gotten anything right before, so why should that change now? And that little stunt you folks pulled in Arizona means that we’ve got to get the bad taste out of the public’s mouth one way or another. This is it.

BrianJ on February 27, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Oh really? We have to pass amnesty because of the AZ Religious Freedom Bill? I see. You might not have noticed the GOPe posturing to one up the Democrats on amnesty for several years now.

I read comments like yours and think, it would be so easy to just sit out elections for the rest of my life.

hawkdriver on February 27, 2014 at 7:22 PM

I’m conflicted. If I was given the power to remove a single politician from office, I don’t know if I would choose Boehner or Obama.

Over50 on February 27, 2014 at 8:02 PM

And that little stunt you folks pulled in Arizona means that we’ve got to get the bad taste out of the public’s mouth one way or another. This is it.

BrianJ

Yeah, let’s commit national and political suicide to remove the taste of an issue that 99% of the country doesn’t even know about, lol.

Because monkeys are good at throwing poop, not so good at learning from their mistakes.

Adjoran

Pot, meet monkey. He bends over on command.

xblade on February 27, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Oh, quit pretending you don’t want this to happen, AP.

“Uh oh”

BS.

Midas on February 27, 2014 at 8:56 PM

The subject Obama and I most agreed on at our meeting yesterday was … immigration.

John, “Defenestration” starts with a “D”, not an “I”.

Ray Van Dune on February 27, 2014 at 11:20 PM