Uh oh: Democrats to force House vote on amnesty?

posted at 3:21 pm on February 26, 2014 by Allahpundit

The best part? The bill they want to force a vote on is their own version of the Gang of Eight bill that passed the Senate, except with … less border security. Which, in fairness, is absolutely true to liberal priorities: Whatever happens on the legalization end of this, this cannot, should not, and will not be the last amnesty.

Remember, it’s Republicans who are the unreasonable party on immigration reform.

Though aides say no decision has been made, House Democratic leaders are strategizing on when to deploy what’s known as a “discharge petition,” which would have to garner a majority of lawmakers’ signatures to force immigration legislation onto the House floor for a vote…

Democrats and advocates are banking on the tactic creating yet another way for lawmakers, activists and voters to compel Republicans to act — particularly those more amenable to immigration reform. One source close to Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who endorsed the strategy recently, laid out his thinking: Put enough pressure on key House Republicans that they turn to their own leadership to urge them to move on immigration — even if a discharge petition fails to get the appropriate number of signatures. Schumer is weighing a discharge effort sometime before May…

Only three House Republicans have co-sponsored a comprehensive House Democratic immigration bill that is largely the Senate’s version, minus controversial border-security provisions that have turned off border-state Democrats.

If you can get a majority of the House to sign your discharge petition, you can force the Speaker to bring your bill to the floor. Pelosi’s actually been kicking this idea around since last summer, when Boehner first started hemming and hawing over the Gang of Eight bill. It was too soon to make a move back then; there was no earthly way she’d convince 18 or so Republicans to cross the aisle on a vote as momentous as this when Boehner hadn’t even had time to prepare his own bill. Well, he’s had time now and the best he can come up with is a list of gassy immigration “principles” that fewer than 20 House Republicans are willing to endorse publicly. If she waits another two months, until after various state deadlines for filing for the primaries have passed, she’s got nothing to lose in asking a few dozen jittery centrist GOPers to sign her petition.

She’s got two big problems, though, one of which is that Republicans who sign on with her wouldn’t just be betraying conservatives and border hawks, they’d be knifing Boehner and the RINOs in the back too. The whole point of amnesty from the perspective of GOP strategists is to build goodwill with Latinos by having Republicans play a major part in reform. If the Republican Speaker gets his own bill passed through the House, even if he needs mostly Democrats to do it, that can be spun as “a major part.” If Pelosi gets her bill passed with help from a few dozen no-name Republican backbenchers, Democrats will get all the credit and then that spin becomes … harder. It would take some awfully bold RINOs in the caucus to help her get away with that, especially with the midterms less than six months away by the time any sort of bill happens.

Her other big problem is that she’s pushing a bill that’s actually weaker on core Republican concerns like border security than the much-derided Gang of Eight bill. Why on earth would she do that if the point here isn’t really to pass somethingbut simply to maximize pressure on Boehner to propose something of his own? If she organized a discharge petition around the Gang of Eight bill instead of the House Democrats’ bill, there’s at least a chance she’d win some Republican votes. Jittery centrist GOPers could simply say they were supporting the same bill that Marco Rubio voted for in the Senate (before he began distancing himself from it, natch). Even if Pelosi lost some Democratic votes because lefties refuse to support the Gang of Eight’s plan for “tough” border security, that’s okay; again, per the excerpt above, the point here is simply to embarrass Republicans, not to get something passed. Having the House GOP line up to oppose a bill that Senate Republicans helped pass would give Democrats their talking point. And if, somehow, Pelosi did find a few dozen Republicans to sign a discharge petition and help pass the Gang of Eight bill, the bill could then proceed directly to Obama’s desk for signature. That’s not the case if House Democrats passed their own immigration bill, as that would have to be reconciled with the Senate bill and then more agonizing votes would follow.

The reason House Dems want to push their own bill, I guess, is that if you’re going to pander, you might as well pander all the way. They know that centrist Republicans are too gutless to put their names on a discharge petition for amnesty, even though we all know they’d happily vote for it if they could keep their vote secret. The point here for Pelosi is simply to signal to Latinos that Democrats are trying to give them everything they want (even less border security than Chuck Schumer agreed to!) and they’re being thwarted by the racist Republicans. Might as well add an “instant citizenship” provision for illegals to the bill too. Go all out.


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Boehner will cry, soon.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 3:24 PM

God BLESS the Democrats – we need to see these votes before the primaries!

HondaV65 on February 26, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Rubio, you traitor, go to Hades.

Take Schumer and all traitors with you.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 3:24 PM

No one should act as if the RINOs are unhappy.

This was their prayer all along.

2014, throw every single one of them out.

Go home and rot in hell and in Hell, you god-damned traitors of the land.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Are they just bored and making up things to waste their time?

John the Libertarian on February 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM

that fewer than 20 House Republicans are willing to endorse publicly.

Add that to all the Ds and the land is SOLD.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM

All these people in D.C. are so stupid. Can you imagine the good will and change they could engender if they would just close the stupid borders?

Cindy Munford on February 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Meaningless. The border has remained unsecured for decades through the leadership of BOTH political parties, and will remain so, because it scratches the itch of Dems for voters and more government dependents, and of Republicans for cheap illegal labor for big business.

Neither party represents my interests or views on this issue (for a secure border and a sane, legal process for allowing immigrants to enter the country and work). They’ve both sold me down the river for their own selfishness.

xNavigator on February 26, 2014 at 3:27 PM

The reason House Dems want to push their own bill, I guess, is that if you’re going to pander, you might as well pander all the way. They know that centrist Republicans are too gutless to put their names on a discharge petition for amnesty, even though we all know they’d happily vote for it if they could keep their vote secret. The point here for Pelosi is simply to signal to Latinos that Democrats are trying to give them everything they want (even less border security than Chuck Schumer agreed to!) and they’re being thwarted by the racist Republicans. Might as well add an “instant citizenship” provision for illegals to the bill too. Go all out.

It’s erroneous to assume that the RINOs want anything less or more.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 3:28 PM

So why don’t we just change the House Rules? What’s good for the goose…

MikeinPRCA on February 26, 2014 at 3:28 PM

The righties in DC destroy the land more effectively than the Ds, because they enable them.

All to be ousted in Nov, to a TEA.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Treason is hard to spell any other way.

Hide the decline.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 26, 2014 at 3:30 PM

If Pelosi gets her bill passed with help from a few dozen no-name Republican backbenchers, Democrats will get all the credit and then that spin becomes … harder.

What world are you living in AP. The Democrats are going to get all the credit any way. The fact that the GOP thinks that the Latino vote is up for sale shows how insular they truly are.

DFCtomm on February 26, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Nancy can already feel the speakers gavel in her hand …

conservative tarheel on February 26, 2014 at 3:31 PM

While this squirrel runs by, look over here.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Nancy can already feel the speakers gavel in her hand …

conservative tarheel on February 26, 2014 at 3:31 PM

If the traitors pass amnesty she will have earned it, in full.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Are they just bored and making up things to waste their time?

John the Libertarian on February 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Less here than meets the eye. They could have done this months ago.

de rigueur on February 26, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Make no mistake, amnesty for the illegal invaders will mean the end of the GOP, if not the country.

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Right after Weasel Boehner meets with Barky DNC-Gallup pimps a poll about his recovery.

Unless Weasel Boehner has handed over the keys I doubt DNC-Gallup would be as generous.

viking01 on February 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Bad “Chiefs” are leading the evil to the camps of your women and children, they take a few trinkets of fake gold, they drink the spiked “mescal” from the ghouls,, you now are the new Apache.

Ask any Apache how this unlimited illegal/legal immigration ends.

The members in good standing of the two party evil money cult now build internal fences for your coast to coast reservation they lust to be the superintendents over.

They will force you to fight or you will just succumb to the evil.

Stand your ground now.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 26, 2014 at 3:37 PM

It would be a sad thing if Senator Schumer has more clout in the US House than the Republican Speaker of the House.

RUexperienced on February 26, 2014 at 3:37 PM

This doesn’t worry me. It won’t pass in the House. No Republican will vote for it if it has weaker border security provisions than the Gang of Eight farce. Even the biggest RINOs in Congress know that they have no chance of selling anyone in their base on amnesty without including something that at least looks like an attempt to secure the border(even if ultimately nothing is done on that front).

Doughboy on February 26, 2014 at 3:37 PM

The Dems need more landscapers and maids for their plantations….

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM

What? Is Boehner powerless to stop a vote? The kid-toucher who runs the Senate sure seems to be able to block whatever legislation he feels like. Or does El Anaranjado actually want the vote to take place?

steebo77 on February 26, 2014 at 3:39 PM

The last successful discharge petition was for the House version of McCain-Feingold, called “Shays-Meehan.” First attempt was in 1997; the bill finally passed in 2002. This is all for show.

osogrande on February 26, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Is anyone else getting mighty sick of recurring nightmare that is amnesty for the illegal invaders?

It’s brought up and the dropped, it’s revived and then it dies out, it comes back and then disappears.

It’s like a really bad horror movie that doesn’t want to end – with the true horror being imposed on the audience.

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:40 PM

How does this help the 92 million Americans who are out of work?

Only the truely INSANE could vote to condemn those people to live on WELFARE for the rest of their lives!

Freddy on February 26, 2014 at 3:43 PM

It would be a sad thing if Senator Schumer has more clout in the US House than the Republican Speaker of the House.

RUexperienced on February 26, 2014 at 3:37 PM

We always know what Nanzi Pelosi stands for but rarely for Boehner.

The moral of the story is better to be insane but consistent than a weasel, apparently.

viking01 on February 26, 2014 at 3:43 PM

FYI: SB 744 has still never been sent over to the House of Representatives from Harry Reid. The House can’t just pick it up and vote on it like Reid, Obama, the media all say. The reason is that it is a revenue raising bill, meaning it had to originate in the House under Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution

Conservative in NOVA on February 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:40 PM

In DC, while bad ideas may come and go, really horrendous one’s circulate around forever until they finally get passed.

It’s a reflection of the quality of leadership and the overall agenda of a government that thinks the people exist for it’s benefit and wealth as opposed to a government that exists to serve and protect the people.

Athos on February 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Discharge petitions rarely come to fruition.

Don’t bet on this happening

h a p f a t on February 26, 2014 at 3:46 PM

How does this help the 92 million Americans who are out of work?

Only the truely INSANE could vote to condemn those people to live on WELFARE for the rest of their lives!

Freddy on February 26, 2014 at 3:43 PM

The leftist thugs and rightie thugs hate the legal American workers, the blacks and etc., so long as their coffers are full.

Wake up America, or perish.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Time for KingGold to chime in and throw around “TrueCons” labels and defend these Amnesty loving Republicans.

portlandon on February 26, 2014 at 3:49 PM

You know, it was just a little short of two decades ago that Norm Ornstein appeared with the Democratic chairman of the House rules committee to say that making public who had signed a discharge petition would destroy the comedy of the House.

J_Crater on February 26, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Make no mistake, amnesty for the illegal invaders will mean the end of the GOP, if not the country.

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM

That was exactly what was said in 1986.

Johnnyreb on February 26, 2014 at 3:49 PM

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:40 PM

In DC, while bad ideas may come and go, really horrendous one’s circulate around forever until they finally get passed.

It’s a reflection of the quality of leadership and the overall agenda of a government that thinks the people exist for it’s benefit and wealth as opposed to a government that exists to serve and protect the people.

Athos on February 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM

That’s one that has to finally fade away – amnesty for 30 Million new Democratic voters would be the end of two party rule for several generations.

Support for that accused concept should be a black mark on any ‘Republican’ who supported it.

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Make no mistake, amnesty for the illegal invaders will mean the end of the GOP, if not the country.

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM

That was exactly what was said in 1986.

Johnnyreb on February 26, 2014 at 3:49 PM

We were still a world superpower and financially solvent back in 1986.

Now we are led by a race hustler, told off by Estonia, schooled by Putin, and 17 trillion in the hole.

viking01 on February 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Meaningless. The border has remained unsecured for decades through the leadership of BOTH political parties, and will remain so, because it scratches the itch of Dems for voters and more government dependents, and of Republicans for cheap illegal labor for big business.

Neither party represents my interests or views on this issue (for a secure border and a sane, legal process for allowing immigrants to enter the country and work). They’ve both sold me down the river for their own selfishness.
xNavigator on February 26, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Totally agree.

bluegill on February 26, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Disgraceful. After the debacle of Obamacare they still want “comprehensive” solutions? One has to hope NO Republicans will vote for this thing. I will not be holding my breath though.

ojfltx on February 26, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Moderate Troll Free.

portlandon on February 26, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Here is a prayer that Ted Cruz will call them out in advance.

Shine the light of truth on these RINO traitors.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 26, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Make no mistake, amnesty for the illegal invaders will mean the end of the GOP, if not the country.

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM

That was exactly what was said in 1986.

Johnnyreb on February 26, 2014 at 3:49 PM

We were still a world superpower and financially solvent back in 1986.

Now we are led by a race hustler, told off by Estonia, schooled by Putin, and 17 trillion in the hole.

viking01 on February 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Yes, and we didn’t have a national socialist left that would do anything – Lie, cheat, steal – to win an election.

On top of which, the Democratic party used to support the concept of liberty – can anyone say they do that any more?

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:59 PM

davidk, this too

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 4:01 PM

Look to California if you want to see what decades of mass, unchecked illegal immigration will lead to. The 1986 illegal alien amnesty was a total failure and encouraged and led to even more illegal immigration.

It’s now impossible to elect even a liberal Republican statewide in California. The wonderful state that had given Ronald Reagan is nothing like it was 25 years ago. Texas would go the same way. Pass illegal alien amnesty, and you eventually can forget about ever again electing a conservative president.

bluegill on February 26, 2014 at 4:01 PM

can anyone say they do that any more?

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:59 PM

They are all fascist leftist thugs now.

The R-fools are not much different.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Any politician who votes for any kind of illegal alien amnesty should be thrown out of office!

bluegill on February 26, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Navigator has it right. A pox on both their dens. Dems want a permanent majority via cynical pandering to the ‘little people’, whom they disdain in private; the ‘pubs want a ‘thrifty working class’. MY plan: put every swinging d…less pol elitist of both parties in a very large toilet bowl and flush them where they’ll be consumed by the best of the bacteria. Then, spread the resultant excretia on the nearest pot patch. The ‘heads’ will be able to inhale the best of both.

vnvet on February 26, 2014 at 4:03 PM

The point here for Pelosi is simply to signal to Latinos that Democrats are trying to give them everything they want (even less border security than Chuck Schumer agreed to!) and they’re being thwarted by the racist Republicans.

I guess Republicans could just pander to… actual citizens? Maybe the people who lost their job and are having a difficult time finding another one or those folks working for scraps who’ll have to take a pay-cut because of the influx of additional cheap labor… y’know, that small segment of the populace.

Ukiah on February 26, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Moderate Troll Free.
portlandon on February 26, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Tried to find some over on the Politico thread – so far only this one:

Cuppa: Why do Republicans hate everyone who is not old, white, christian, and (mostly) male?
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/immigration-reform-democrats-103936.html#comment-1261020422

Does it occur to these people that they are the true racists?

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 4:07 PM

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:59 PM

They are all fascist leftist thugs now.

The R-fools are not much different.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2014 at 4:02 PM

I think they’ve been that way all along – they just aren’t hiding it as well lately.

And I can’t say I disagree with you on the Rinocrats..

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Another example of the Democrats playing to win.

Sadly the Republicans play Go along & Get along with their Democrat Congressional frat brothers.

RJL on February 26, 2014 at 4:13 PM

…would destroy the comedy of the House.

J_Crater on February 26, 2014 at 3:49 PM

It’s a very dark macabre comity.

Fenris on February 26, 2014 at 4:14 PM

So… Republicans can’t make anything happen because they only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the government, but a minority in that same body can’t force things to happen…

Got it.

Why do we support the GOP again?

Midas on February 26, 2014 at 4:17 PM

That’s one that has to finally fade away – amnesty for 30 Million new Democratic voters would be the end of two party rule for several generations.

Support for that accused concept should be a black mark on any ‘Republican’ who supported it.

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Question: what is it that you think will happen in ‘several generations’ that would lead to a change?

I think perhaps the correct phrase would be “the end of two party rule *forever*.”

Midas on February 26, 2014 at 4:21 PM

If this Congress passes amnesty, I’m not going to suggest that people stay home in November.

I’m not going to suggest that conservatives vote Democrat to send a bigger signal to the GOP.

I’m going to suggest that citizens march on DC with intent to personally, and by the millions, confront these motherf*cking traitors.

Midas on February 26, 2014 at 4:24 PM

When Pelosi was Speaker, and Heath Shuler (Bluedog D – NC) had over 200 co-sponsors (1/2 R, 1/2 D) of his enforcement-only SAVE Act, Nancy commanded her Democrat cosponsors to vote AGAINST a discharge petition to hold a vote on a bill they had co-sponsored!!!

That way, they could all say to their leftie constituents that they voted against the bill, and say to their righty constituents that they had co-sponsored the bill. Win-win for politicians, lose-lose for American citizens.

Wash DC – the ultimate slime pit.

And rumors that McCain (while over in the Senate!!) helped kill the bill.

http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20080326/news/803260330

fred5678 on February 26, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Leftists. Always conniving, never thinking.

HiJack on February 26, 2014 at 4:29 PM

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Question: what is it that you think will happen in ‘several generations’ that would lead to a change?

I think perhaps the correct phrase would be “the end of two party rule *forever*.”

Midas on February 26, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Okay, I must admit that’s being overly optimistic… way overly optimistic..

As to your question on:

Why do we support the GOP again?

Can’t think of any good answer besides inertia.

But as someone else expressed, at some point if the Gutless Old Party insists on committing political suicide, there would seem to be fewer reasons to bail from a sinking ship and start anew.

DinaRehn on February 26, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Why do we support the GOP again?

Midas on February 26, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Lesser of two evil, treasonous parties, of course.

HiJack on February 26, 2014 at 4:31 PM

The whole point of amnesty from the perspective of fake GOP strategists is to build goodwill with Latinos by having Republicans play a major part in reform.

And what a brilliant strategy it is. See 1986.

If Pelosi gets her bill passed with help from a few dozen no-name Republican backbenchers, Democrats will get all the credit and then that spin becomes … harder.

A democrat president is going to sign the bill. The “spin” of shared credit has been BS from the start.

Time for KingGold to chime in and throw around “TrueCons” labels and defend these Amnesty loving Republicans.

portlandon

And if you’re a good boy, he might even try to convince you that Martinez from New Mexico doesn’t support amnesty, lol.

That was exactly what was said in 1986.

Johnnyreb

Know what else they said in 1986? They’ll vote for us if we just give them amnesty, lol. Meanwhile, 28 years later after a REPUBLICAN gave them amnesty and California will never again be carried by a republican presidential candidate. The current amnesty being discussed is 10-15 times the size of that one, which means Texas will be like California probably in less than a decade. But yeah, they were wrong about the 1986 amnesty, lol.

xblade on February 26, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Why do we support the GOP again?

Midas on February 26, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Lesser of two evil, treasonous parties, of course.

HiJack on February 26, 2014 at 4:31 PM

…what is sad…it is almost…the only reason!

KOOLAID2 on February 26, 2014 at 4:51 PM

An Open Letter to Every Single House Republican

In 2010, the Republicans swept into power in the House of Representatives due largely to Tea Party organizations who got out the vote.

Since 2010, the illuminati of the D.C. Establishment Republicans in the House have capitulated to every single Democrat demand, including but not limited to vote after vote to raising the debt limit, vote after vote on continuing resolutions, voting to rescind the minimal ‘sequestration cuts’ (“cuts” to the percentage of growth to departmental budgets of government, NOT actual cuts), vote after vote on meaningless nonsense.

Here’s a Newsflash for you, Republican Establishment — the Tea Party organizations who were able to get those folks to the polls in 2010 didn’t do so in 2012 BECAUSE of who YOU promoted (and then didn’t either have the guts or know-how to defend when the opposition ads came out.)

Here’s another Newsflash for you, Establishment — Tea Party organizations will stay home again come November 2014 if you continue to vote and act like Democrat-lite. It makes absolutely NO difference to us who keeps raping the American taxpayer, be they have an R or D after their name. If that is your agenda and voting record, we refuse to pull that lever. The days of the ‘lesser of two evils’ are well OVER.

The latest example of this is Nancy Pelosi’s scheming to bring a Discharge Petition to the floor to force a vote on “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” apparently with Senator Schumer’s ‘blessing.’ Senator Reid changed the Senate rules to enable a simple majority vote on court appointments, why isn’t Speaker Boehner changing House rules to nip this atrocity in the bud this minute?

Is he spineless? Is he delusional? Is he amenable? Who knows. I do know one thing, am certain of it in fact.

If the Republican Majority in the House passes ANY “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” including a ”pathway to citizenship”, “amnesty” or any other name you care to give it, Ms. Pelosi will hold the gavel yet again. There is not a doubt in my mind. Furthermore, you can forget about any kind of Senate majority along with it.

Why would Tea Party organizations waste their limited resources to get out the vote for ANY POLITICIAN who would dare vote against American workers, American taxpayers or American citizens? While you might still keep your cushy office on the hill because of lobby dollars, you cease to exist as a representative of the people or public ‘servant’. Your terms will be numbered.

Unemployment and underemployment is through the roof; more out of the workforce in decades; thousands of dollars less in income per employee, food stamp usage through the roof, disability claims sky-high, public sector pensions accelerating at break-neck speed, public employee hiring skyrocketing–not to even go into the effects of Obamacare on the people of this Nation — and you have the gall to call this a “recovery?” What planet do YOU live on?

From municipal to county to State and Federal — governments are flat-out broke. There is not enough income (let alone taxable) in this Nation to fund what you have promised. Instead of tackling these issues, head-on, you want to invite even more debt, more unemployment, more welfare.

You, along with your democrat counterparts, are the epitome of what is wrong in this country.

An American Citizen, Taxpayer
and Shrewd Voter–if I have reason to do so.

jersey taxpayer on February 26, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Are they just bored and making up things to waste their time?

John the Libertarian on February 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Are you suggesting the inability of some to exercise their right to buy wedding cake is trivial? It is the most pressing injustice of our time!

Happy Nomad on February 26, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Whatever else you may think of the poisonous snake Nancy Pelosi and her ilk, she/they come to every single fight with one knife in their teeth, another in their pocket and one more in their boot, while Boehner et al are only ever armed with rubber ducks and dry squirtguns.

Sacramento on February 26, 2014 at 5:18 PM

The whole point of amnesty from the perspective of GOP strategists is to build goodwill with Latinos by having Republicans play a major part in reform. If the Republican Speaker gets his own bill passed through the House, even if he needs mostly Democrats to do it, that can be spun as “a major part.” If Pelosi gets her bill passed with help from a few dozen no-name Republican backbenchers, Democrats will get all the credit and then that spin becomes … harder.

There is such a thing as harder than impossible?

besser tot als rot on February 26, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Sorry folks, I forgot to prelim that last post with a “long” warning!

jersey taxpayer on February 26, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Can we just say “No” to illegal aliens and “Yes” to our American vets. I’d really love to see my tax money go to supporting them in whatever way is necessary before a penny is spent on any illegal alien. I know, I know “But what about the children? Don’t they deserve a chance at a better life?” No they don’t but our vets sure do.

Annie21LA on February 26, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Dems and many pubs don’t believe in the sovereignty of the states or the country.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 26, 2014 at 5:43 PM

These are all just trial balloons being thrown up by the Democrats to pacify the immigration militants in their own ranks.

If there’s one thing that could make Nancy Pelosi even less popular than she is now, it would be this.

rockmom on February 26, 2014 at 5:48 PM

I’m going to suggest that citizens march on DC with intent to personally, and by the millions, confront these motherf*cking traitors.

Midas on February 26, 2014 at 4:24 PM

The American Spring is just around the corner. The rats will be dealt with by the people…

Doomsday on February 26, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Don’t worry, Orange Man and Minch McGoggle are gonna whip out that brilliant strategizing I’ve heard so much about lately. As opposed to non-strategic thinking Ted Cruz with his dirty, dirty tactics.

Cliff by the Ford on February 26, 2014 at 6:19 PM

As some Democrat said the other day, “Where will we get our landscapers and maids without amnesty?”

Vote. Let’s see who is on board with La Raza.

Meremortal on February 26, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Worked well for the Republicans when Reagan signed the last amnesty bill, didn’t it

polarglen on February 26, 2014 at 6:29 PM

The whole point of amnesty from the perspective of GOP strategists is to build goodwill with Latinos by having Republicans play a major part in reform.

Huh? Latinos don’t give a rat’s ass about the GOP.

Who cares about taxes when you’re on the economic rung where the government PAYS YOU?

GarandFan on February 26, 2014 at 6:52 PM

I guess Republicans could just pander to… actual citizens? Maybe the people who lost their job and are having a difficult time finding another one or those folks working for scraps who’ll have to take a pay-cut because of the influx of additional cheap labor… y’know, that small segment of the populace.

Ukiah on February 26, 2014 at 4:04 PM

That is free market capitalism. Do you have a problem with that?

loveofcountry on February 27, 2014 at 7:01 AM