Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on February 26, 2014 by Allahpundit

“We said this is exactly what is going to happen,” said Sen. Steve Gallardo, D-Phoenix. “You have a bill here that’s so toxic it’s going to divide this Legislature. It’s going to be polarizing the entire state. And that’s exactly what happened.”…

The Senate sponsor, Sen. Steve Yarbrough, R-Chandler, defended the proposal and said his efforts were intended to extend the state’s religious freedom law’s reach to corporations and allow those sued for discrimination to cite the law even when the government isn’t a party. He said a veto would be disappointing.

“I don’t think it’s a good thing for the state in the sense that I believe the First Amendment means what is says about the free exercise of religion. It’s the first freedom in the First Amendment. It’s there for a reason,” Yarbrough said Tuesday. “And I think we need to take steps to implement that in a meaningful fashion.”…

Meanwhile, the bill has brought increasing talk of economic damage to the state, and on Wednesday, the Hispanic National Bar Association said it was cancelling its 2015 convention in Phoenix because of the proposal, becoming one of the first groups to pull an event from that state.

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Even as momentum continues to build against Arizona’s controversial bill that would allow businesses to deny service to gay couples on religious grounds, the NFL on Wednesday morning began investigating the necessary steps to move next season’s Super Bowl from the Phoenix area, if the proposal becomes law, a source close to the situation confirmed.

The Tampa Bay area finished as the runner-up and was the only other finalist in the bidding for Super Bowl XLIX, which was awarded to Arizona in October 2011, and would in all likelihood be the NFL’s first option for relocating the game at this relatively late date. Next season’s Super Bowl is scheduled to be played at University of Phoenix Stadium in suburban Glendale, Ariz., but the religious rights measure known as Senate Bill 1062 might jeopardize the area’s host duties…

“No one wants to do this, but if the league’s hand is forced, it would have to begin preparing for that process,” the source close to the situation said. “If this doesn’t get vetoed, it has to know, what has to be done next? That discussion has begun.

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What if an Army sergeant in full regalia is driving through a small town and his car breaks down and it’s too late to find a mechanic? There are two hotels in the town; both are owned by pacifist Christians. Do the backers of this bill really believe it should be legal for him to be refused a room and forced to sleep in his car?

Or: A couple, white male and black female, enter a florist to order arrangements for their wedding. The owner — a Bob Jones University graduate circa 1985, when the college still officially banned interracial dating — feels that he cannot contribute to something he believes is morally wrong (mixed-race marriage) on biblical grounds. Should he be allowed to refuse service even if it violates a federal anti-discrimination statute?…

What if a town dominated by Mainline Protestants decides they don’t want to serve evangelical Christians because they don’t want to be seen as affirming people who they think are distorting the teachings of the Bible and dishonoring God? An evangelical pastor and his family show up at a hotel and are turned away. How is this right?

In a religiously pluralistic society, the possibilities for discrimination based on sincerely held religious beliefs are endless. Pray that Gov. Brewer vetoes this abomination of a bill.

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SB 1062 does nothing more than align state law with the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (which passed the House unanimously, the Senate 97-3, and was signed by President Clinton in 1993). That is, no government action can “substantially burden” religious exercise unless the government uses “the least restrictive means” to further a “compelling interest.” This doesn’t mean that people can “do whatever they want” – laws against murder would still trump religious human sacrifice – but it would prevent the government from forcing people to violate their religion if that can at all be avoided. Moreover, there’s no mention of sexual orientation (or any other class or category).

The prototypical scenario that SB 1062 is meant to prevent is the case of the New Mexico wedding photographer who was fined for declining to work a same-sex commitment ceremony. This photographer doesn’t refuse to provide services to gay clients, but felt that she couldn’t participate in the celebration of a gay wedding. There’s also the Oregon bakery that closed rather than having to provide wedding cakes for same-sex ceremonies. Why should these people be forced to engage in activity that violates their religious beliefs?

For that matter, gay photographers and bakers shouldn’t be forced to work religious celebrations, Jews shouldn’t be forced to work Nazi rallies, and environmentalists shouldn’t be forced to work job fairs in logging communities. This isn’t the Jim Crow South; there are plenty of wedding photographers – over 100 in Albuquerque – and bakeries who would be willing to do business regardless of sexual orientation, and no state is enforcing segregation laws. I bet plenty of Arizona businesses would and do see more customers if they advertised that they welcomed the LGBT community.

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There is a note of Nikita in this battle, a sense that people on both sides would like to just come out and say “we will bury you”, and it’s really beginning to trouble me, because it is letting hate overrule simple humanity.

I saw it in my email, last night, when a guy who seemed to be Yosemite Sam Incarnate all but called me a “religious nut-job varmint” and challenged me to a duel…

I saw it again — much more dramatically and appallingly — in a social media thread, where a Catholic, running on the cheap fuel of emotionalism and revved up with righteousness, was willing to be publicly cruel to a very kind homosexual man…

I feel like I’m watching my gay friends get mauled and then watching my Catholic friends get mauled, both by people who have lost the ability to do anything but feel and seethe.

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Via the Blaze.


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Now, on your prediction, mine will be more accurate. In 10-20 or so years the muzzies will literally chop your heads off or hang you, in the US too.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 1:10 AM

actually going to confront the muzzies or Russians would
be fighting for gay rights…
what we have here …is fighting for gay cake….

and the law may say you have to make a cake for anyone..
but it cannot tell you what to put in the cake…
or
I am too booked solid to make you a cake just now, sorry,
may I direct you to the nice muzzie bakery down the street..

its still….all about the money…
torturing people of faith is a side benefit..a perk..
its the money they are after..

going2mars on February 27, 2014 at 1:40 AM

Feb. 13, 2014: The Hill newspaper reports that “Senate Democrats facing tough elections this year want the Internal Revenue Service to play a more aggressive role in regulating outside groups expected to spend millions of dollars on their races.”

In 1170, King Henry II is said to have cried out, on hearing of the latest actions of the Archbishop of Canterbury, “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” Four knights then murdered the archbishop. Many in the U.S. media still willfully refuse to see anything connecting the murder of the archbishop to any actions or abuse of power by the king.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 1:43 AM

bish that..!!

going2mars on February 27, 2014 at 1:44 AM

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 1:43 AM

In regards to our little know it all, Hillobeans
Will no one rid me of this turbulent troll?
;)

Doc Holliday on February 27, 2014 at 1:48 AM

Oh, boy, the crazy poster is back. I’m out.

HillAREwe on February 27, 2014 at 1:35 AM

.
Uhhh . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B O O ? !
.

listens2glenn on February 27, 2014 at 1:51 AM

And what is the point of the LGBT crowd in beating this drum? I think it is a forerunner to going after the churches.

It’s about power.

Sting on February 26, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Going after the churches is a big obstacle to jump.

This is the running start.

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 27, 2014 at 1:55 AM

what??

is no one going to scream at me
its not about the money you loon g2m…

going2mars on February 27, 2014 at 1:56 AM

Interesting. I’m surprised there isn’t more abuse from troublemakers.

bluegill on February 27, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Twitchy itself has never had many trolls from what I’ve seen seen, compared to Breitbart for example. I’ve seen individual sites which use Disqus block certain users.

non-nonpartisan on February 27, 2014 at 1:58 AM

Now, on your prediction, mine will be more accurate. In 10-20 or so years the muzzies will literally chop your heads off or hang you, in the US too.
Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 1:10 AM

Actually the ones I know, and I know many, work 7 days a week: expect their children to work and study very hard as well as to conduct themselves properly at all times; and are wonderful neighbors. If you perhaps took the time to know them you might ding that, as a conservative, you have more in common with them than you might think.

frank on February 27, 2014 at 2:01 AM

Ok it’s bedtime

I don’t always post, but when I do, I like to poke holes in troll logic.

Doc Holliday on February 27, 2014 at 2:01 AM

And what is the point of the LGBT crowd in beating this drum? I think it is a forerunner to going after the churches.

It’s about power.

Sting on February 26, 2014 at 11:26 PM

.
Going after the churches is a big obstacle to jump.

This is the running start.

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 27, 2014 at 1:55 AM

.
It has been and remains (for now) about defiance of the living God.

The churches (supposedly) stand for, and represent a recognition of God, on the earth. All forms of giving recognition to God will always be under relentless attack, until Jesus comes, again.

listens2glenn on February 27, 2014 at 2:03 AM

You guys claim that a woman that hunts wolves from her helicopter is a role model.

I look to the women that have actually made things happen.

HillAREwe on February 27, 2014 at 12:37 AM

So you would rather admire a woman who worked her way through college, entered politics by running for the city council, then won several terms as mayor, then served in the state government, then won election as governor and cleaned out a bunch of corruption, then wrote bestselling books and became a millionaire?

Oh, wait, that was Sarah Palin. Sorry.

You would rather admire the woman then who because famous because of who she married. Yeah, there’s a role model.

To be fair, she did finally take an executive position as Secretary of State. Of course, she then let an Ambassador and 3 others die in the Middle East on the 1th anniversary of 9/11 because no one could guess that the consulate building might be overrun, even though every other Western power in the area was pulling out their staff or beefing up their security.

Anyone who claims to be a feminist and thinks Hillary is a role model is not too bright.

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 27, 2014 at 2:09 AM

And what is the point of the LGBT crowd in beating this drum? I think it is a forerunner to going after the churches.
It’s about power.
Sting on February 26, 2014 at 11:26 PM
.
Going after the churches is a big obstacle to jump.
This is the running start.
There Goes the Neighborhood on February 27, 2014 at 1:55 AM
.
It has been and remains (for now) about defiance of the living God.
The churches (supposedly) stand for, and represent a recognition of God, on the earth. All forms of giving recognition to God will always be under relentless attack, until Jesus comes, again.
listens2glenn on February 27, 2014 at 2:03 AM

This.

Which is why it’s senseless trying to reason with them & their supporters as they are blinded. This is going to play out just as has been written- just be glad you’re on the correct side of it.

frank on February 27, 2014 at 2:10 AM

arnold, I think I speak from the heart. I think some of you get pricked in the heart when you realize what you’re standing against. I hope I can put a face to the victims.

HillAREwe on February 27, 2014 at 1:26 AM

You can “think” all you want. You are pretty nasty and condescending in my opinion.

arnold ziffel on February 27, 2014 at 2:13 AM

ABC7 News ‏@abc7newsBayArea 41m
#BREAKING: A Delta flight landed at Oakland Airport and passengers had to evacuate due to smoke in the cabin. We’ve got crews on the way.

kcewa on February 27, 2014 at 2:23 AM

Reid is and always has been a pathological liar. Harry Reid would be in prison if he weren’t a politician. Here’s another example of what an outrageous liar he is: When asked about his great-great uncle, Remus Reid, a horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889, Reid had his staff reply that “Remus Reid was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory . His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to government service, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.”

VorDaj on February 27, 2014 at 2:24 AM

hmm..
I’ll just post a silly space link
and get back to work..cheers
715 new exoplanets discovered..!!

http://www.space.com/24824-alien-planets-population-doubles-nasa-kepler.html

going2mars on February 27, 2014 at 2:25 AM

The Associated Press ‏@AP 7s
BREAKING: Ukraine’s acting interior minister says police on high alert after Crimea parliament seized.

kcewa on February 27, 2014 at 2:28 AM

Judds – Grandpa (tell me about the good old days)

http://youtu.be/fLiRGW31nyk

31giddyup on February 27, 2014 at 2:29 AM

arnold ziffel on February 27, 2014 at 2:13 AM

Hi Ziff. I hope you were in charge while I was gone.

SparkPlug on February 27, 2014 at 2:30 AM

The veto was pretty disappointing. A lot of gay groups will look to this as a precedent. I think you can kiss any religious expression goodbye. They couldn’t stop people from believing, so they started legislating away God.

smoothsailing on February 27, 2014 at 2:32 AM

Oh, boy, the crazy poster is back. I’m out.

HillAREwe on February 27, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Thanks for the Twitchy mention. NOT

Was it me that skeered you away? I hope so. Boo

SparkPlug on February 27, 2014 at 2:36 AM

How come no one is posting? Is there a PikerCott?

SparkPlug on February 27, 2014 at 2:37 AM

Hi Ziff. I hope you were in charge while I was gone.

SparkPlug on February 27, 2014 at 2:30 AM

Me in charge, no way. I need discipline. bluegill offered.

arnold ziffel on February 27, 2014 at 2:41 AM

Heads Up:

Ukrainian political crisis
39m
Russia’s foreign ministry says ‘large-scale human rights violations,’ attacks and vandalism in Ukraine are a cause for concern – @Reuters
end of alert
===============
Ukrainian political crisis
49m
Russia says it will defend the rights of its compatriots and will ‘uncompromisingly’ react to any violation of those rights, foreign ministry says – @Reuters
end of alert
==============

Ukrainian political crisis
1h
Ukraine’s acting interior minister says police on high alert after Crimea parliament seized – @AP
end of alert
=================

Ukrainian political crisis
1h
Photo: Russian flag raised over Crimean parliament building – @BSpringnote
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on February 27, 2014 at 3:32 AM

Getting Tense:

Ukrainian political crisis
4m
Ukraine’s acting president calls on Russian forces in Crimea not to leave naval base – @AP
end of alert
===============

Ukrainian political crisis
22m
Russia puts fighter jets on its western border on combat alert, defense ministry says – Interfax via @Reuters
end of alert
=================

Ukrainian political crisis
28m
Gunmen who have taken over Crimean parliament and government buildings appear to have not taken hostages – @shustry
end of alert

canopfor on February 27, 2014 at 3:34 AM

gutfeld just gave the HotAir
T-shirt adds a shout out…@3:41 am est…
on Red Eye..

hmm..he reads HA for the adverts??
who knew??..
weird birds those pelicans..

going2mars on February 27, 2014 at 3:46 AM

Ukrainian political crisis
18m
Poland’s Foreign Minister Sikorski says seizure of Crimea government buildings is a drastic step, risks regional conflict – @Reuters
end of alert
===================

Ukrainian political crisis
28m
Ukraine’s acting president tells Russian military that troop movements outside Black Sea Fleet base in Crimea would be an act of aggression – @Reuters
end of alert

canopfor on February 27, 2014 at 4:05 AM

@NATO’s SG @AndersFoghR: I’m concerned about developments in Crimea. I urge Russia not to take any action that can escalate tension or create misunderstanding

kcewa on February 27, 2014 at 4:28 AM

“Our activists were sitting there all night calmly, building the barricades,” he said. “At 5 o’clock unknown men turned up and went to the building. They got into the courtyard and put everyone on the ground.

“They were asking who we were. When we said we stand for the Russian language and Russia, they said: don’t be afraid, we’re with you. Then they began to storm the building bringing down the doors,” he said.

“They didn’t look like volunteers or amateurs, they were professionals. This was clearly a well-organized operation. They did not allow anyone to come near. They seized the building, drove out the police, there were about six police officers inside,” he said.

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-ukraine-crimea-20140227,0,5532682.story#ixzz2uVt3L52S

kcewa on February 27, 2014 at 4:33 AM

Hillary’s daughter is married and has a great job.
Hillary wins.

Pickle on February 27, 2014 at 12:51 AM

Ae you attempting to say that Chelsea got her job because of Hillary’s parenting skills, not because she’s President Clinton’s daughter?

Hahahahaha!

It also looked like Chelsea’s husband picked her because he thought she mught further his career and that their marriage was on the rocks.

While Hillary did get through law school on her own, her roles as First Lady, Senator and Secretary of State were because of her husbnd, not her abilities. Palin achieved far more on her own than Hillary.

talkingpoints on February 27, 2014 at 5:07 AM

Morning…. I guess we’ll have another full day of lsm gleefully reporting the veto….

Im hoping for a new squirrel…. please….enough of this….ths silent majority can’t seem to win when the lsm twists everything to reflect their views….. feeling eeyorish this am

The lefts treatment of the right seems surreal at times…..their hatred knows no bounds

cmsinaz on February 27, 2014 at 5:19 AM

Im hoping for a new squirrel…. please….enough of this…
cmsinaz on February 27, 2014 at 5:19 AM

I think we’ve got one in Crimea.

kcewa on February 27, 2014 at 5:21 AM

The courts seem to rule the land….the people’s vote do not count unless they are in align with their views…….

cmsinaz on February 27, 2014 at 5:22 AM

Kcewa…morning….we’ll see….

cmsinaz on February 27, 2014 at 5:44 AM

Good morning cmsinaz

kcewa on February 27, 2014 at 5:52 AM

the gop is not the only one at fault in congress according to the new polls, apox on both houses
-gibbsy….also blaming dems???

41% approval for Obama….

cmsinaz on February 27, 2014 at 6:11 AM

love the sign ‘we refuse the right to server Arizona legislatures”, talk about hypocrites

RonK on February 27, 2014 at 6:21 AM

RonK on February 27, 2014 at 6:21 AM

exactamundo….

cmsinaz on February 27, 2014 at 6:21 AM

So are gays so stupid as to want someone who finds their lifestyle totally repugnant preparing food for them? Not me.

Ever seen the movie “Help”. Chocolate pie?

Bring it on, sweeties, Bring it !

stenwin77 on February 27, 2014 at 6:32 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.

Obama’s chickeeens are coming home (or at least to Cuba) to roost!

My take: “Putin Docks Russian Warship in Havana”

kingsjester on February 27, 2014 at 6:35 AM

Bottom line here-in America today you have to be loud and proud to have any chance of having your rights protected.Christians aren’t fighting for their rights so don’t expect this Administration to protect them.Barack Obama and Eric Holder don’t care unless you are black,muslim, or gay.

redware on February 27, 2014 at 6:39 AM

I TOLD ya that Obama is Al Sharpton! And here’s the proof LOL

/funny!

Key West Reader on February 27, 2014 at 6:40 AM

kingsjester on February 27, 2014 at 6:35 AM

great take KJ

‘we’re screwed’ pretty much spot on there….

cmsinaz on February 27, 2014 at 6:51 AM

kingsjester on February 27, 2014 at 6:35 AM

OY!

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 6:57 AM

cmsinaz on February 27, 2014 at 6:51 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 6:57 AM

Exactly.

kingsjester on February 27, 2014 at 7:00 AM

Bottom line here-in America today you have to be loud and proud to have any chance of having your rights protected.Christians aren’t fighting for their rights so don’t expect this Administration to protect them.Barack Obama and Eric Holder don’t care unless you are black,muslim, or gay.

redware on February 27, 2014 at 6:39 AM

Christians are fighting for their rights…They are losing those in the courts and in public opinion.

We are becoming like Germany in the 20′s.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 7:18 AM

First!

Bishop on February 27, 2014 at 7:29 AM

The veto was pretty disappointing. A lot of gay groups will look to this as a precedent. I think you can kiss any religious expression goodbye. They couldn’t stop people from believing, so they started legislating away God.

smoothsailing on February 27, 2014 at 2:32 AM

Claims have been made that the current Religious Exemption statutes in Arizona are sufficient to protect businesses that do not want to serve in those situations objectionable.

Now we will find out the exact facts of those claims. It is sad that people will suffer before the facts come out. Brewer is a disgusting coward.

dogsoldier on February 27, 2014 at 7:43 AM

kingsjester on February 27, 2014 at 6:35 AM

Scary stuff, KJ, and well written.

dogsoldier on February 27, 2014 at 7:45 AM

VorDaj on February 27, 2014 at 2:24 AM

Harry Reid is a pathological liar and cretin of the first order, but that story isn’t true.

DrMagnolias on February 27, 2014 at 7:49 AM

The veto was pretty disappointing. A lot of gay groups will look to this as a precedent. I think you can kiss any religious expression goodbye. They couldn’t stop people from believing, so they started legislating away God.

smoothsailing on February 27, 2014 at 2:32 AM

Yeah, if that cupid stunt Brewer thinks that the gays are now appeased then she truly is an idiot. This was just the opening salvo in a bigger war. A war in which Brewer has already abandoned the free practice of religion for obeying the whims of sodomite thugs.

Happy Nomad on February 27, 2014 at 7:51 AM

Happy Nomad on February 27, 2014 at 7:51 AM

You’re right, HN. Agenda über alles, they never stop pushing.

Naturally Curly on February 27, 2014 at 7:58 AM

+1 HN

cmsinaz on February 27, 2014 at 7:59 AM

Yeah, if that cupid stunt Brewer thinks that the gays are now appeased then she truly is an idiot. This was just the opening salvo in a bigger war. A war in which Brewer has already abandoned the free practice of religion for obeying the whims of sodomite thugs.

Happy Nomad on February 27, 2014 at 7:51 AM

Being religious could be declared a mental illness…I mean Hitler had some pretty loose standards for his T4 program didn’t he?

Brave New World…It’s what’s for Breakfast

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 8:09 AM

Claims have been made that the current Religious Exemption statutes in Arizona are sufficient to protect businesses that do not want to serve in those situations objectionable.

Now we will find out the exact facts of those claims. It is sad that people will suffer before the facts come out. Brewer is a disgusting coward.

dogsoldier on February 27, 2014 at 7:43 AM

Do the current statutes in AZ protect against the costs of litigation?

I doubt it.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 8:13 AM

Can’t wait until some Democrat or RINO somewhere in a speech shouts to roaring applause …

“And I promise to all gays everywhere! If you want your cake baked I promise you’ll have it baked! And if anyone anywhere says they won’t bake it (the crowd is going utterly wild by this time) I will make them bake it or they won’t be able to bake a cake every again!”

JellyToast on February 27, 2014 at 8:25 AM

“Brewer cited legal reasoning along these lines in her letter explaining her veto, noting that SB 1062 is “broadly worded.” Yet she also cited some dubious arguments, including the claim that the bill “does not seek to address a specific and present concern related to Arizona businesses. The out-of-state examples [of lawsuits against businesses] cited by proponents of the bill, while concerning, are issues not currently existing in Arizona.”

There is no doubt that such cases are coming to Arizona, and to other states as well, because gay rights groups are looking for the next frontier, and that is using the coercive power of the state to force private acceptance of gay marriage. The Obama administration is already doing that through its contraceptive mandates, where it is forcing religious institutions to violate their fundamental teachings, brazenly challenging the First Amendment.

The governor has been under enormous public pressure to veto the bill. Rush Limbaugh was correct to call it “bullying,” especially after the way the state was treated regarding its immigration law in 2009, SB 1070. As with SB 1062, most of what Democrats said about SB 1070 was false. And, ironically, the controversial part of the bill, allowing police to demand proof of legal residency, was the one part that survived the Supreme Court.

But the damage–including tattling at the UN Human Rights Council, and an outrageous rebuke by the Mexican president in an address to Congress (who received a grotesque standing ovation from Democrats)–was done. It is evident in Brewer’s veto explanation when she describes the need to “foster Arizona’s business friendly environment.” She can only mean the fear of boycotts, given that SB 1062 was designed to help businesses.

A bill tailored more narrowly to the issue of religious freedom as regards traditional marriage might stand a better chance. Such a bill would shift the burden of debate to those who would infringe on religious freedom. Given that some of the cases that motivated SB 1062 are still working their way through the courts, it might be best to see what happens. And given the November elections, many Republicans will hope Arizona sits tight…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/26/Brewer-s-Veto-Motivated-By-Principle-and-Pressure

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 8:33 AM

Where have I seen that guy LZ Granderson before? Let me think….I know it…wait…wait, it’s coming to me…

Oh, NOW I remember. It was here.

Cleombrotus on February 27, 2014 at 8:39 AM

Do the current statutes in AZ protect against the costs of litigation?

I doubt it.

workingclass artist on February 27, 2014 at 8:13 AM

I doubt it as well. A couple egregious cases that are bound to happen will put the lie to those claims that religious protections already exist.

dogsoldier on February 27, 2014 at 9:00 AM

dogsoldier on February 27, 2014 at 7:45 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on February 27, 2014 at 9:27 AM

.

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 10:03 AM

!

Bmore on February 27, 2014 at 10:05 AM

If you perhaps took the time to know them you might ding that, as a conservative, you have more in common with them than you might think.

frank on February 27, 2014 at 2:01 AM

Well, except for that whole “honor murder”, head-whacking-off, suicide bombing thing, of course.
And, of course, ‘taquiya’ puts a bit of a crimp in the whole relationship.

Solaratov on February 27, 2014 at 10:57 AM

What if an Army sergeant in full regalia is driving through a small town and his car breaks down and it’s too late to find a mechanic? There are two hotels in the town; both are owned by pacifist Christians. Do the backers of this bill really believe it should be legal for him to be refused a room and forced to sleep in his car?

So he sleeps in his car, and then the next day they are the most hated hotel owners in America, and they shortly go out of business. What’s the problem?

Or: A couple, white male and black female, enter a florist to order arrangements for their wedding. The owner — a Bob Jones University graduate circa 1985, when the college still officially banned interracial dating — feels that he cannot contribute to something he believes is morally wrong (mixed-race marriage) on biblical grounds. Should he be allowed to refuse service even if it violates a federal anti-discrimination statute?…

Why not? Does he have a monopoly on flowers or something?

What if a town dominated by Mainline Protestants decides they don’t want to serve evangelical Christians because they don’t want to be seen as affirming people who they think are distorting the teachings of the Bible and dishonoring God? An evangelical pastor and his family show up at a hotel and are turned away. How is this right?

It’s not right, but it’s rectifiable the same way as these other cases.

It’s striking how much contempt these people have for the masses – as though the majority of society is going to throw minorities out into the cold unless papa government stops them.

If we’re really going to play this game, I get to play too:

What if a government wants to refuse to allow a company to sell certain insurance policies to individuals who are willing to pay, because of a sincerely held belief that said policies are “substandard”?

RINO in Name Only on February 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM

onesheep on February 26, 2014 at 11:27 PM

What is your problem?

ladyingray on February 27, 2014 at 11:21 AM

And what is the point of the LGBT crowd in beating this drum? I think it is a forerunner to going after the churches.
It’s about power.
Sting on February 26, 2014 at 11:26 PM
.
Going after the churches is a big obstacle to jump.
This is the running start.

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 27, 2014 at 1:55 AM
.

It has been and remains (for now) about defiance of the living God.
The churches (supposedly) stand for, and represent a recognition of God, on the earth. All forms of giving recognition to God will always be under relentless attack, until Jesus comes, again.

listens2glenn on February 27, 2014 at 2:03 AM

.
This.

Which is why it’s senseless trying to reason with them & their supporters as they are blinded. This is going to play out just as has been written- just be glad you’re on the correct side of it.

frank on February 27, 2014 at 2:10 AM

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Boy, I dunno’ frank . . . that sounds a lot like that “crazy poster” HillAREwe was talking about :

Oh, boy, the crazy poster is back. I’m out.

HillAREwe on February 27, 2014 at 1:35 AM

listens2glenn on February 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM

It amazes me what the ‘wingers are trying to do in Arizona. I thought this was settled with the Civil Rights movement way back when.

sigh.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Calm down. Brewer will veto and you will be forced to call the “witch” a heroine.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 11:09 PM

:)

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:51 PM

you were also correct, Mr Schad when you said
on Tuesday.. “it’s going to be a long week”…

going2mars on February 27, 2014 at 12:54 PM

frank on February 27, 2014 at 2:01 AM

Blind

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM

g2g, they make is pretty obvious, and easy. They’re not very smart and never discrete. It’s why their heads will roll, first.

The Russians and the Islamists are watching.

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:56 PM

For the naif – HA is not the forum for any conversion. It’s just a battlefield btw the logical and the lost.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 11:21 PM

For the Hill-conversion-dummy

Schadenfreude on February 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM

if they wanted to stand up for “right”…
go where the ‘front’ is…
Russians and the Islamists will be happy
to allow your protests…
fighting over a cake
day after day
post after post
thread after thread…
the yelling and screaming..
is a
WOT…….waste of time

going2mars on February 27, 2014 at 12:59 PM

btw..
I still say its about the money..

going2mars on February 27, 2014 at 1:02 PM

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