Poll: Plurality of Republicans now say Christie shouldn’t run for president

posted at 11:21 am on February 26, 2014 by Allahpundit

Of the five big names polled — him, Jeb, Rubio, Rand Paul, and Cruz — Christie’s the only one who’s net negative when Republicans are asked whether each should jump in. Not only that, but the guy with the most support among the five is Bush.

Have RINOs settled on a new champion?

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The good news for Christie: Bush is deep underwater at 26/43 when independents are asked this question. The bad news: Christie himself trails the other three Republicans named in the poll. Rubio stands at 26/24 among indies, Paul at 30/29, and Cruz at 20/25. Christie is six points underwater at 28/34. Maybe that’s a function of name recognition, with the other, lesser known candidates destined to see their negatives rise as independents get to know them better. But remember, indies are supposed to be Christie’s bread and butter irrespective of how his competition polls with them. He’s the blue-stater who’s going to expand the GOP tent, right? And it’s really not the case that the other three guys are far less well known than him. He and Paul are comparable and Paul polls marginally better. Rubio has a serious liability on his record from spearheading amnesty and he polls better. Even Cruz, whom the media disdains as a kamikaze conservative, doesn’t attract as many thumbs down among independents. What happens between now and next year to turn this around for Christie?

The numbers back home in Jersey are brutal for him too. A morsel from the new Monmouth poll:

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Back in September, the split on that question was 56/34. The rest of the poll is littered with sour opinions of him — New Jersey voters think he was personally involved in Bridgegate (50/44), think it was politics as usual for his administration (49/46, versus 39/55 just a month ago), believe he hasn’t been completely honest about the scandal (33/61), and believe that it’s very or somewhat likely that Christie’s administration used Sandy relief funds to exert power over local officials (60 percent). Most strikingly, more Jersey voters would now give the administration a C, D, or F in its handling of the Sandy recovery, which is supposed to be Christie’s most sterling leadership credential, than an A or B. (Six months ago, 72 percent gave them an A or B.) His job approval is down to 49 percent among registered voters, the first time it’s been below 50 since 2011. Absent a major unexpected turnaround, what’s left of the idea that Christie alone among major Republican candidates has some special crossover appeal to Democrats and independents?

Makes me wonder what happens if his numbers haven’t rebounded by this fall. Will he go ahead with a run anyway on the theory that he’ll never have an opportunity as good as 2016 again, no matter how damaged he might be? Or will he calculate that he’s better off passing and campaigning hard instead for someone like Jeb in exchange for a cabinet appointment later? He can’t run again for governor in 2017 and he’s not going to beat Cory Booker for Senate, so unless he’s planning to challenge Bob Menendez, his options are basically 2016 or bust. Exit question: Who’s the biggest winner from that CBS poll up top? Is it really Jeb or is it Rubio? Rubio’s supposed to be DOA because of immigration reform but neither Republican voters nor indies oppose the prospect of him running. If Jeb decides to pass, he’s potentially well positioned as a center-right alternative to Paul and Cruz.


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He definitely should have let that dog ride inside the car back in ’82.

forest on February 26, 2014 at 11:22 AM

“Look what you terrible TrueCons have done!! You fools!”

-KingGold

portlandon on February 26, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Hate to say this, but I always had the impression Christie was the “chosen for” candidate all along. As in the Commiecrats, once again, picked him as the guy they WANTED to run against. I can tell you that here in the Raleigh area, I haven’t noticed any particular leaning in his direction – at all, ever.

PJ Emeritus on February 26, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Rand Paul is lighting up a celebratory joint in the back of his VW bus parked outside the Capitol.

Punchenko on February 26, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Jeb Bush??? Suddenly I miss Christie.

Valkyriepundit on February 26, 2014 at 11:27 AM

I think it’s high-time the GOP gets its act together and nominates a TRUE CONSERVATIVE for POTUS in ’16. Personally, I’ve had it with the milktoast, watered-down, spineless RINO’s the GOP keeps trotting out there for their bell cow candidates (e.g., Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney, et. al.).

Bob Davis on February 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM

The media had fun with that one, a piece of cake to get the “Republicans” to turn on him…

So easy to manipulate weak minds…Scott Walker, Perry, Cruz, Christie, one by one they throw out these “breaking news” stories that turn out to be nothing but propaganda for the weak minds…and it works every time.

right2bright on February 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Poll: Plurality of Republicans now say Christie shouldn’t run for president

Guess he isn’t all that, and a Bag of Chips?

ToddPA on February 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM

I NEVER wanted him to run. Haven’t changed my opinion.

xNavigator on February 26, 2014 at 11:29 AM

He can’t run again for governor in 2017 and he’s not going to beat Cory Booker for Senate, so unless he’s planning to challenge Bob Menendez, his options are basically 2016 or bust.

Are you serious? He doesn’t leave office until January of 2018. He is only 51 years old now. In 2020 he will be 57.

Before all this stuff happened, he was a longshot to win in 2016 anyway, assuming he did get the GOP nomination, which was doubtful.

But he can surely bounce back from all of this and run in 2020.

rockmom on February 26, 2014 at 11:29 AM

…yeah, but he can still run some mean bridge interference.

ToddPA on February 26, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Rand Paul is lighting up a celebratory joint in the back of his VW bus parked outside the Capitol.

Punchenko on February 26, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Probably, but his turn is coming soon. As soon as the MSM get done slandering the hell out of Walker, they will move on to demagoguing Paul to death on the Civil Rights Act/private business comments and something his 10th grade girlfriend said about him. The pattern will continue for over 2 more years until there are no Republicans left who are willing to run.

forest on February 26, 2014 at 11:31 AM

This won’t stop him. One thing all RINOS have in common is their absolute conviction in their own INDESPENSIBILITY.

Which is why Crist and Murkowski just “couldn’t” quit after losing, after all, the country “needs” them.

/sarc

ConstantineXI on February 26, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Hate to say this, but I always had the impression Christie was the “chosen for” candidate all along. As in the Commiecrats, once again, picked him as the guy they WANTED to run against. I can tell you that here in the Raleigh area, I haven’t noticed any particular leaning in his direction – at all, ever.

PJ Emeritus on February 26, 2014 at 11:24 AM

The Democrats love running against candidates that least reflect the GOP’s core constituency. Northeastern, rich, schooled in the North or the West Coast, tied to the NYC-Boston-Beltway cliques (Big Finance & Big Law), etc. all work for the Democrats.

Scott Walker and Rand Paul probably gives them the most vapors.

Punchenko on February 26, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Why waste time on a presidential election at all? We all know the majority of voters are salivating at having Shrillery be our first woman prez, or for that matter, even glad to have Bammy serve again for as long as he wants to stay. Just appoint her when the time comes or keep Bammy. Save time, money and frustration.

Think of all the money running campaigns that could be saved and all the heartache, bitterness and divisiveness that comes from savage political campaigns that can be avoided.

/SNARK

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Christie successfully alinskied! Progressives/Hillary/Soros moving on to Scott walker. Who’s next after Walker? The Hillary juggernaut has plenty of money and friends.

Viator on February 26, 2014 at 11:35 AM

CRISTie never had a chance at winning the White House anyway. The base would’ve stayed home, and single women would never vote for a mean fat guy over the first female Presidential candidate. If this kind of reality check keeps him out of the race, then keep these polls coming.

Doughboy on February 26, 2014 at 11:36 AM

I think it’s high-time the GOP gets its act together and nominates a TRUE CONSERVATIVE for POTUS in ’16. Personally, I’ve had it with the milktoast, watered-down, spineless RINO’s the GOP keeps trotting out there for their bell cow candidates (e.g., Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney, et. al.).

Bob Davis on February 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM

You are the perfect post…the target the media aimed at and succeeded.

Congrats on being so easily manipulated, and because of people like you, it is unlikely we will ever get a Republican in office because the media will always convince you that the front runner is not the perfect conservative.

And if not you, than they will convince another group that our “perfect conservative” is too radical and they will denounce your candidate…so one by one, as noted, will be eliminated because of the “no tolerance” rule.

The fact that you and others cannot see the worth of a Republican candidate that is not “perfect” as being disruptive and forces the dems to spend resources to combat that person…which leaves your choice a better chance, is what we lose. You think every battle is the war, not understanding that battles, even ones that will not eventually win, still make up a winning war if it is a united front.

What a pity so many of you are so easily manipulated because 18 months ahead of any real decision you don’t understand that someone like Christie causes havoc in the dem and the independent party.

Fools…not stated lightly, but based on past fact and history.

Perry, stammers and is eliminated, Jindahl reaches for water and it becomes national news, others with decades old statements that are made relevant out of context…and the fools buy into it.

right2bright on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

YES!

Rand Paul is lighting up a celebratory joint in the back of his VW bus parked outside the Capitol.

Punchenko on February 26, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Aqua Buddha is the greatest!

the_nile on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Jeb Bush??? Suddenly I miss Christie.

Valkyriepundit on February 26, 2014 at 11:27 AM

I don’t think JEB plans on running. He’s n record as saying anyone named Clinton or Bush is toxic in 2016.

Lanceman on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Christie successfully alinskied! Progressives/Hillary/Soros moving on to Scott walker. Who’s next after Walker? The Hillary juggernaut has plenty of money and friends.

Viator on February 26, 2014 at 11:35 AM

The Hillary camp thinks that Obama is just going to agree to LEAVE office so she can be President? How quaint!

ConstantineXI on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

right2bright on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Can you please just go the way of right4life? Just until after 2016? Please?

Lanceman on February 26, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Hate to say this, but I always had the impression Christie was the “chosen for” candidate all along. As in the Commiecrats, once again, picked him as the guy they WANTED to run against. I can tell you that here in the Raleigh area, I haven’t noticed any particular leaning in his direction – at all, ever.

PJ Emeritus on February 26, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Sure, because all those polls showed him as the only Republican beating Hillary? You think they wanted to run against him? Then why did the NYT and MSDNC come down on him like a ton of bricks over such a minor incident? If they wanted him they could have buried this thing and let him off the hook.

Good grief. They want someone as far right as possible so they can run the “war on women/blacks/immigrants/gays/poor” campaign again. Because that’s what works to get their voters to the polls – fear and hate. Christie scared the hell out of them because they would have to come up with an entirely new smear campaign for him. Unfortunately, the fools in his administration gave them one.

They’re going after Scott Walker now for the same reason. They can’t run the “War on _____” campaign against him. They can’t caricature him and make people afraid of him. He has experience and is articulate. He hasn’t run his campaigns or Administration around social issues. He has at least given the right lip service to immigration reform.

The media/Democrat complex is telegraphing for us who they fear and who they don’t. If only we will pay attention.

rockmom on February 26, 2014 at 11:40 AM

I don’t think JEB plans on running. He’s n record as saying anyone named Clinton or Bush is toxic in 2016.

Lanceman on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

And 2020, and 2024, 2028, 2032, 2036, etc, etc.

ConstantineXI on February 26, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Never really cared for Christie, but he really lost me when he took that moonlight stroll on the beach with the Dog Eater. that settled it for me. For my vote, I still support Gov. Sarah Palin, with a running mate the likes of my Texas Senator, Ted Cruz. Both are principled, true conservatives, and they align to a tee with my values and principles fiscally, socially as well as personally. All the others leave much to be desired, in my view…

bimmcorp on February 26, 2014 at 11:41 AM

While first point out that I love this news, I must say that if Christie was to put New Jersey in some kind of fiscal shape this might change. I know he has a Democrat legislature but so did Scott Walker. Maybe his first term was just setting the stage but unless the improvement is significant, I don’t see why anyone would vote for him.

Cindy Munford on February 26, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Hate to say this, but I always had the impression Christie was the “chosen for” candidate all along. As in the Commiecrats, once again, picked him as the guy they WANTED to run against.

That was my feeling, so I was surprised Maddow et al went after him so much. I guess they just couldn’t refrain themselves from attacking a Republican front runner, or someone significant with an (R) after their name (in the way it’s always Bad Bad Politician (R) in the lede of any negative story about a Republican, as opposed to Bad Bad Politician [no party mentioned] for a Democrat).

bobs1196 on February 26, 2014 at 11:42 AM

I don’t think JEB plans on running. He’s n record as saying anyone named Clinton or Bush is toxic in 2016.

Lanceman on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Yeah, I dont trust him on that. The guy is stunningly full of himself.

Valkyriepundit on February 26, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Probably, but his turn is coming soon. As soon as the MSM get done slandering the hell out of Walker, they will move on to demagoguing Paul to death on the Civil Rights Act/private business comments and something his 10th grade girlfriend said about him. The pattern will continue for over 2 more years until there are no Republicans left who are willing to run.

forest on February 26, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Rand Paul has a base while Chris Christie had, er, the MSM and a handful of billionaires.

Big difference.

I thought for a while that Christie was pretty savvy, but I was wrong — very, very wrong. Christie is letting the news cycle consume him and is too chicken s*** to take on the MSM which he thinks is still his greatest asset.

Punchenko on February 26, 2014 at 11:43 AM

I don’t think JEB plans on running. He’s n record as saying anyone named Clinton or Bush is toxic in 2016.

Lanceman on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Of course he’s planning to run, he’s a crook.

the_nile on February 26, 2014 at 11:44 AM

None of the above.

Why don’t they put executive conservatives in that poll?

Mike Pence
Scott Walker
Bobby Jindal
Mitch Daniels
Mary Fallin
Nikki Haley

I know not one of these names is perfect ideologically – though I put Mike Pence at the top for a reason – but any and all of them have fought harder for at least one major conservative principle while in executive office than ANY of the folks listed on that silly poll.

Yes, Ted Cruz fights, but has no executive experience.

Pence has 10 years of national/international policy experience while in the House. And by 2016, he will have 4 years of executive governing experience as governor of Indiana.

Jindal also has both U.S. House and governing experience.

It matters, people.

Obama was a 2-year Senator ideologue with no governing experience and his administration has botched one thing after another.

In 2016, Cruz will be a 2-year Senator ideologue with no governing experience. Yes, he has the correct ideological principles, and he’s a fighter. But when you win, you then have to know how to execute those principles.

Rand Paul will have 6 years in the Senate, but still no governing experience. Ditto Marco Rubio.

It’s not all ideology; practical experience helps as well.

So I reject the names on that poll for both ideological and practical reasons.

And I instead name others who have both ideology and practical experience.

hrh40 on February 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM

I don’t think JEB plans on running. He’s n record as saying anyone named Clinton or Bush is toxic in 2016.

Lanceman on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Hope you’re right…His own Mama said she doesn’t want him to run.

No Political Dynasties.

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM

No promotion for CC.

22044 on February 26, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Correction: Cruz will have 4 years experience in the Senate.

hrh40 on February 26, 2014 at 11:47 AM

hrh40 on February 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM

I’d prefer a successful conservative governor.

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 11:47 AM

I don’t think JEB plans on running. He’s n record as saying anyone named Clinton or Bush is toxic in 2016.

Lanceman on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Yeah, I dont trust him on that. The guy is stunningly full of himself.

Valkyriepundit on February 26, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Jeb wants on the ticket as VP. He’s running for VP.

My theory is that Bush Family & Associates’ plan was to make Marco Rubio, a 2010 Tea Party darlin’ (and Bush loyalist), a strong candidate that would sweep through Iowa, NH, SC, and Florida; pick Jeb as his seasoned VP; and cruise to victory in ’16.

The Bush Family would get their name in the history books again and Jeb would have a nice spot from which to pull strings for George P. Bush back in Texas for when he runs for governor.

A Rubio/Spanish-speaking Bush ticket would have also helped with the Latino problem — or so that’s the thinking.

Too bad Marco imploded. :-(

Oh, well. I’m sure his low profile right now is part of the plan to slowly rehabilitate his standing while the MSM, Democrats, and GOP operatives busy themselves tearing down the opposition (Christie, Cruz, Paul, Lee, Walker, and ever other would-be political threat.)

I read Rand Paul met with George P. in Texas. Maybe he floated the possibility of a Paul/Bush merger to get Establishment $$$ and support?

Punchenko on February 26, 2014 at 11:51 AM

I’d prefer a successful conservative governor.

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 11:47 AM

So would I. Unfortunately, all of our successful governors have all the appeal of a Tim Pawlenty.

Lanceman on February 26, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Poll: Plurality of Republicans now say Christie shouldn’t run for president

…so that means the MSM will lay off him…and push his candidacy again?

KOOLAID2 on February 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Love him or hate him, I think what the media did to him is despicable. And take note all conservatives, they can do this to ANYONE. The “tear everyone down at all costs” mentality, combined with the sheeple being so easily swayed without looking at the facts or digging beyond the headlines is disheartening.

ChanceyGardener on February 26, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Rand Paul is lighting up a celebratory joint in the back of his VW bus parked outside the Capitol.

Punchenko on February 26, 2014 at 11:26 AM

So that means he’s carrying Colorado and the Northwest.

And if he brings Aquabuddha, then he can campaign in Cali!

Nu Reagan!

budfox on February 26, 2014 at 11:58 AM

… it is unlikely we will ever get a Republican in office because the media will always convince you that the front runner is not the perfect conservative.

… you don’t understand that someone like Christie causes havoc in the dem and the independent party.

Perry, stammers and is eliminated, Jindahl reaches for water and it becomes national news, others with decades old statements that are made relevant out of context…and the fools buy into it.

right2bright on February 26, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Huh?

Who was the last true CONSERVATIVE to get anywhere near the GOP nomination – and how did the media convince anyone that they were not “perfect”? I have no idea what you are talking about.

Christie does not “cause havoc in the dem and the independent party” – because he is a raging liberal, by his own admission – democrats certainly would lOVE him to be the GOP nominee, because they know that he could never win against whatever obama-turdling they vomit up in 2016. The vast majority of independents are smart enough to see Christie for what he is.

NO ONE has eliminated Perry because of his stammering during the 2012 primaries – it was a very minor issue then (and, he has revealed that he was on pain medication, as he recovered from back surgery), and most have long forgotten about it. AND finally, it was AMNESTY PUSHER Rubio who “reached for water” – and this has nothing to do with the fact that he is understood to be a pathological LIAR and a TRAITOR, and has fallen off the radar.

You seem very confused and uniformed.

Pork-Chop on February 26, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Rubio’s supposed to be DOA because of immigration reform but neither Republican voters nor indies oppose the prospect of him running. If Jeb decides to pass, he’s potentially well positioned as a center-right alternative to Paul and Cruz.

Honestly, Paul and Walker are better center-right candidates than Rubio at this point. Both would represent a genuine compromise between the leadership and the Tea Party. With the immigration issue, Rubio’s cast his lot with the liberal Republicans, for good or ill.

Doomberg on February 26, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Hope you’re right…His own Mama said she doesn’t want him to run.

No Political Dynasties.

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Yes, this is called pointed red herring propaganda.

As in, make all kinds of noise from all Bush Fronts that we shouldn’t have any more Bushes.

But then when each and every nonBush candidates fails – with the help of the Bush Machine spread throughout DC and the media – then an oh-so-reluctant Bush will be compelled through his love of country to do his duty to step up and … blah, blah, blah.

Wait for it.

Watch for it.

Fight it.

hrh40 on February 26, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Hmmmmmmmm.

MontanaMmmm on February 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM

hrh40 on February 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM

I’d prefer a successful conservative governor.

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 11:47 AM

So would I.

I named some.

Who are your names?

hrh40 on February 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM

I read Rand Paul met with George P. in Texas. Maybe he floated the possibility of a Paul/Bush merger to get Establishment $$$ and support?

Punchenko on February 26, 2014 at 11:51 AM

You’re on the right track with the Bush/Paul alignment.

Except it goes back to the RonPaul/MittRomney/GOPe deal cut in 2012 when Ron Paul agreed to

a) run again to help split the conservative/libertarian vote
b) act as Romney’s wing man in the debates and never lay a glove on him
c) all in exchange for the GOPe playing nice with his son’s political future

Incidentally, also see:

d) Rand’s early endorsement of McConnell to this same end

The Pauls deal has been made, over and over again, made, signed, sealed, and awaiting delivery.

hrh40 on February 26, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Who’s the biggest winner from that CBS poll up top?

The good folks of New Jersey.

Bmore on February 26, 2014 at 12:08 PM

My first choice is still Perry, followed by Pence.
No Walker. No Herr Doktor’s son.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2014 at 12:08 PM

I’d prefer a successful conservative governor.

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Mike Pence’s conservative bonafides are respected by the rank and file and the elites in the Republican party.

Mike Pence earns high marks in GOP polls

Pence and The Revolution: Five reasons he might be the 2016 dark horse to watch

1. Mike Pence (R.-Ind.)
2006 ACU rating: 100%
Lifetime ACU rating: 100%
Years of Service: 6

Mike Pence, R-Ind.: 90.7 (2012 Composite Conservative score)

Flora Duh on February 26, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Exactly what the left wants. Mission accomplished.

rjoco1 on February 26, 2014 at 12:10 PM

can’t blame this on conservatives. that’s christie’s doing.

the media played a part, but conservatives knew they would. it’s the dumb go-along-to-get-along republicans who think if they sacrifice principles they will get elected, who are on the wrong path.

jetch on February 26, 2014 at 12:11 PM

hrh40 on February 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM

I agree that it needs to be a governor.
For a looong time, I was a huge Jindal fan-but he’s recently come out as sqush on special treatment for…border jumpers.
No Walker either for basically the same reasons.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2014 at 12:12 PM

portlandon on February 26, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Lolz!

Bmore on February 26, 2014 at 12:12 PM

hrh40 on February 26, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Rand has a crazy daddy problemo.

He’ll have to find a way to keep his Dad out of the spotlight…and I doubt he can do that.

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Exactly what the left wants. Mission accomplished.

rjoco1 on February 26, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Don’t forget the right. ; )

Bmore on February 26, 2014 at 12:13 PM

he’s potentially well positioned as a center-rightleft alternative

FIFY

Norwegian on February 26, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Flora Duh on February 26, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Prior to moving to Texas, we lived 6 miles west of the Illinois/Indy border. Daniels was still gov then-but when I’d ride my bike to Dyer…I could see that the state was booming. It was becoming everything IL wasn’t.
I’ve heard that under Pence-it’s even better.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Flora Duh on February 26, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Somebody posted on a thread,last week that he caved to Obamacare?

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 12:16 PM

My first choice is still Perry, followed by Pence.
No Walker. No Herr Doktor’s son.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2014 at 12:08 PM

I’d like to see Gov. Perry run…

That would piss off Bush Inc.

And if he does run again I hope he campaigns straight to the voters.

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 12:19 PM

There are plenty of good candidates.

The Media propaganda machine will try to pick the worst of them as the nominee and then turn all effort towards ruining them.

The Media is the enemy within.
The curtain has to be pulled back on them so that the general populace sees them for what they are.
They have to be fully revealed, discredited and destroyed.

justltl on February 26, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Allow me to repeat for emphasis:

The Media has to be fully revealed, discredited and destroyed.

justltl on February 26, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Somebody posted on a thread,last week that he caved to Obamacare?

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 12:16 PM

First I’ve heard of it, but it wasn’t exactly a cave to “Obamacare”.

Flora Duh on February 26, 2014 at 12:22 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2014 at 12:15 PM

In 2012 I did everything one person could do to try to convince him to enter the presidential race.

Flora Duh on February 26, 2014 at 12:25 PM

I read Rand Paul met with George P. in Texas. Maybe he floated the possibility of a Paul/Bush merger to get Establishment $$$ and support?

Punchenko on February 26, 2014 at 11:51 AM

George P is Bush Inc.’s next great hope or something…

workingclass artist on February 26, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Are you serious? He doesn’t leave office until January of 2018. He is only 51 years old now. In 2020 he will be 57.

Before all this stuff happened, he was a longshot to win in 2016 anyway, assuming he did get the GOP nomination, which was doubtful.

But he can surely bounce back from all of this and run in 2020.

rockmom on February 26, 2014 at 11:29 AM

So are you conceding 2016 to the Dems?

Bitter Clinger on February 26, 2014 at 12:30 PM

You seem very confused and uniformed.

Pork-Chop on February 26, 2014 at 11:58 AM

(FIX)

LOL – make that UNINFORMED.

Pork-Chop on February 26, 2014 at 12:30 PM

hrh40 on February 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Fine list. I agree with your reasoning and choices. I would add one more name to the list, that of Governor Martinez from NM.

butch on February 26, 2014 at 12:33 PM

I will always blame The Hug for his slippage.

Bmore on February 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Never really cared for Christie, but he really lost me when he took that moonlight stroll on the beach with the Dog Eater. that settled it for me. For my vote, I still support Gov. Sarah Palin, with a running mate the likes of my Texas Senator, Ted Cruz. Both are principled, true conservatives, and they align to a tee with my values and principles fiscally, socially as well as personally. All the others leave much to be desired, in my view…

bimmcorp on February 26, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Could’ve attached my name to this post….you beat me to it.

Kudos.

ToddPA on February 26, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Booker is a crook that doesn’t even live in NJ !!

So Christie can beat Booker if he gets the message out. Lonegran, Booker’s opponent couldn’t figure out where Booker lived and didn’t put enough effort in to it. He did find out that Booker did not live at his published address — it was some sort of police sub station. The rumor was Booker lived the fast life in NYC.

Booker has his own “Watergate” with a scandal with the Newark water authority percolating, All Christie has to do is get Booker indicted — he has already been accused of knowing where the money was going by the people controlling the cash.

KenInIL on February 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Bmore on February 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM

i just had to click on that linky….ewwwww

cmsinaz on February 26, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Whatever. He’s still the most electable candidate we have. You TruCons must fall in line and coronate support him. Jetzt!

steebo77 on February 26, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Vast Majority of Democrats Want Clinton to Run

Would you like to see Hillary Clinton run for
President of the United States in 2016, or not, or don’t you know enough about Hillary?

Democrats 82% Yes
13% No
5% Don’t know

Independents 52% Yes
42% No
6% Don’t know

Might_Is_Right on February 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM

When I saw Jeb Bush at the top, I was curious as to where they took the poll. Then I saw Cruz at the bottom, and there was no doubt in my mind that it was taken at the establishment Republican headquarters. Keep it up guys…go with Bush and commit political suicide.

rjh on February 26, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Rand Paul is lighting up a celebratory joint in the back of his VW bus parked outside the Capitol.

Punchenko on February 26, 2014 at 11:26 AM

That VW bus is actually his shrine to Aqua Buddha, who is his god.

steebo77 on February 26, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Vast Majority of Democrats Want Clinton to Run

Would you like to see Hillary Clinton run for
President of the United States in 2016, or not, or don’t you know enough about Hillary?

Democrats 82% Yes
13% No
5% Don’t know

Independents 52% Yes
42% No
6% Don’t know

Chelsea Clinton on February 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Is she going to run on her 2002 vote authorizing the Iraq War?

Del Dolemonte on February 26, 2014 at 12:52 PM

I’m no fan of Governor Soprano, but shouldn’t we let the GOP voters decide who they want to nominate?

The problem with handicapping the presidential primary is you get a nominee who’s handicapped.

myiq2xu on February 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Is she going to run on her 2002 vote authorizing the Iraq War?

Del Dolemonte on February 26, 2014 at 12:52 PM

She is going to run on… wait for it…

Benghaaazeeeee1!!!!!

Oh, and also,

Lewinskyyyy!!!!!

Might_Is_Right on February 26, 2014 at 12:59 PM

I think it’s high-time the GOP gets its act together and nominates a TRUE CONSERVATIVE for POTUS in ’16. Personally, I’ve had it with the milktoast, watered-down, spineless RINO’s the GOP keeps trotting out there for their bell cow candidates (e.g., Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney, et. al.).

Bob Davis on February 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM

The only conservative that comes to mind, with Reagan’s gift for communication, is Scott Walker. Rubio was there but committed political suicide with his amnesty vote. Also, the money behind the GOP has to buy into a real conservative. Their interests are not aligned with conservatism. Our only hope is that the people educate themselves about a candidate and not decide based upon commercials.

cajunpatriot on February 26, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Christie: maybe I should shut down 4 lanes?

Brock Robamney on February 26, 2014 at 1:12 PM

cajunpatriot on February 26, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Sorry, no more amnesty shills. If you nullify Rubio, you have to nullify Walker

Brock Robamney on February 26, 2014 at 1:14 PM

She is going to run on… wait for it…

Benghaaazeeeee1!!!!!

Oh, and also,

Lewinskyyyy!!!!!

Chelsea Clinton on February 26, 2014 at 12:59 PM

And her age, right?

There would absolutely be many challenges along the road for Hillary. For one, the challenge of a 68-going-on-69-year-old going after a considerably younger electorate, particularly in the primaries, and how to make herself more relevant to the future, rather than to the past. Running on how great the economy was in the mid-to-late ’90s, when her husband was president, would be tantamount to a sequel of Back to the Future. Clinton needs to lay out a rationale for her relevance to the future electorate of a rapidly changing country. Not that she can’t do it, but it would be a different battle than that of 2008.

Far-Left CommonDreams.org, 2008:

Hillary Clinton’s decision to vote to authorize the invasion of Iraq in fact is of critical importance and should disqualify her – along with Senator John McCain, who also voted in favor of the war resolution – from ever becoming president.

There have been many tragic consequences of the war for which Senator Clinton and others who made it possible should be held accountable: the deaths of thousands of American soldiers and the tens of thousands permanently wounded; the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed; the hundreds of billions of dollars drained from our national treasury; the social, economic and environmental damage inflicted upon Iraq; the misallocation of human and material resources away from real strategic threats; and, the resulting growth in Islamic extremism and anti-Americanism which will threaten our national security for decades to come .

More importantly, however, is what the decision says about Hillary Clinton’s world view: Contempt for International Law.

Del Dolemonte on February 26, 2014 at 1:16 PM

When your a rino(like i am) when the lead rino stubles you go for rino that was in second place. Jeb’s next then Scott Walker.

gerrym51 on February 26, 2014 at 1:22 PM

She is going to run on… wait for it…

Benghaaazeeeee1!!!!!

Oh, and also,

Lewinskyyyy!!!!!

Might_Is_Right on February 26, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Funny you left out her Charming Wit….

ToddPA on February 26, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Vast Majority of Democrats Want Clinton to Run

Would you like to see Hillary Clinton run for
President of the United States in 2016, or not, or don’t you know enough about Hillary?

Democrats 82% Yes
13% No
5% Don’t know

Independents 52% Yes
42% No
6% Don’t know

Might_Is_Right on February 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Well then, by all means, she should run….just think of it.

She could LIE her azz off on the campaign trail…

She could LIE her azz off during the debates…

..and she’d be no ways Taaaard.

I bet you’re REALLY PROUD OF HER!!??

ToddPA on February 26, 2014 at 1:28 PM

We really don’t need this guy’s baggage.

rplat on February 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Vast Majority of Democrats Want Clinton to Run

Would you like to see Hillary Clinton run for
President of the United States in 2016, or not, or don’t you know enough about Hillary?

Democrats 82% Yes
13% No
5% Don’t know

Independents 52% Yes
42% No
6% Don’t know

Might_Is_Right on February 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM

One must understand that she is the epitome of the Party of the Democrats. Of course they want her to run, she’s the shinning beacon or their despicable Party.

rplat on February 26, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2016

Jack_Burton on February 26, 2014 at 1:38 PM

But look at how many DON’T want Bush to run. Whereas Cruz is highest among those who don’t know enough. Interesting. I’d say this is good news for Paul, Rubio and Cruz. They have big potential for inroads. Bush is out of gas.

rrpjr on February 26, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Oh No! Suicide watch on the HotAir staff today.

reddevil on February 26, 2014 at 1:48 PM

My name is Paul Plurality, and I endorse this message.

Christie shouldn’t run, Bush III shouldn’t run, Cruz shouldn’t run and Rand Paul shouldn’t run.

The first two are obvious. But, as for Cruz and Paul, I like and respect them a lot. But I am no longer willing to subject the Presidency to a one-term Senator just based on popularity.

We already know how that can work out. They may follow our ideology almost perfectly, but that doesn’t mean they can really serve as an effective president.

At this point, I think it’s one step below navel-gazing to even speculate on who our “perfect”, or even acceptable candidate would be. It may make for fun conversation, but its as relevant as arguing which team is going to win the Super Bowl in 2016.

ZeusGoose on February 26, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Might_Is_Right on February 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Well then, by all means, she should run….just think of it.

She could LIE her azz off on the campaign trail…

She could LIE her azz off during the debates…

..and she’d be no ways Taaaard.

I bet you’re REALLY PROUD OF HER!!??

ToddPA on February 26, 2014 at 1:28 PM

What Chelsea isn’t telling us about this new “poll” is that it was done solely to shape public opinion, not to actually report what public opinion currently is.

That’s because this “poll” was done by the “newspaper” that endorsed Hillary when she ran for the US Senate, and their “polling partner” was C-BS, who was busted for using forged documents in an attempt to steal a Presidential election for the Democrats in 2004.

This “poll” also oversampled Democrats-NYT/C-BS “polls” always do.

Del Dolemonte on February 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Christie was never a serious contender. Oh, he was connected to the big money donors? Tell me all about President Gramm. Senator Phil had raised a then-record $25 million by late 1995, and was out by Iowa. And he was a heckuva lot closer to the Republican mainstream than Christie ever has been.

It was all just pointless media hype. His “frontrunner in the polls” status consisted of being in the higher teens in a large field. You don’t win nominations with 17% support, sorry.

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I echo ZeusGoose in that we have too many qualified Governors to waste time considering first-term (or ANY-term) Senators. Every Senator ever elected has sucked big-time as President. They are NOT qualified.

Let them go home and be Governor a term or two and PROVE they can run something bigger than their Senate offices. Giving nice speeches isn’t the same thing as running the world’s largest operation, the US federal government.

Adjoran on February 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM

That’s because this “poll” was done by the “newspaper” that endorsed Hillary when she ran for the US Senate, and their “polling partner” was C-BS, who was busted for using forged documents in an attempt to steal a Presidential election for the Democrats in 2004.

This “poll” also oversampled Democrats-NYT/C-BS “polls” always do.

Del Dolemonte on February 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Oh, and another reason this new NYT/C-BS “poll” is absolutely worthless: its Margin of Error is 6%. The normal Margin of Error in reputable polls is always between 3% and 3.5%.

Del Dolemonte on February 26, 2014 at 2:03 PM

He can’t run again for governor in 2017 and he’s not going to beat Cory Booker for Senate, so unless he’s planning to challenge Bob Menendez, his options are basically 2016 or bust.

I have an idea…….. how about getting out of politics instead of trying to stay in power for years and years?

cat_owner on February 26, 2014 at 2:12 PM

I echo ZeusGoose in that we have too many qualified Governors to waste time considering first-term (or ANY-term) Senators. Every Senator ever elected has sucked big-time as President. They are NOT qualified.

Let them go home and be Governor a term or two and PROVE they can run something bigger than their Senate offices. Giving nice speeches isn’t the same thing as running the world’s largest operation, the US federal government.

Adjoran on February 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Thanks, Adjoran,

The only two presidents who were elected directly from the Senate were Harding and JFK. I’m ignoring our current Turd-in-Chief for the moment.

Harding was accused of a lot of scandals that I don’t believe he was personally involved. But, because of ties to the Senate, he appointed a lot of people that created those scandals. For better or worse, he died, Coolidge took the reins (one of our best presidents, IMHO).

Although JFK may have been one of the last of the pro-American Democrats, he was still a disaster waiting to happen. Khrushchev took him to the wood-shed a couple times, and his womanizing would have made Slick-Willie blush. He was in no way responsible to lead the U.S.

It may be cruel to say, but he was lucky he was killed when he was. Too many people buy into the Camelot myth, but JFK was just one big disaster waiting to happen.

Getting back to our third senator-to-president, he’s a disaster that’s already happened.

Oh, I forgot! Garfield also went from Senator to President, but he was killed too early draw any conclusions.

ZeusGoose on February 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM

ZeusGoose on February 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Oops! I gots my “blockquotes” mixed up with my comment, but you get the gist.

I’m still a relatively new noobie here!

ZeusGoose on February 26, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Behold, the fate of the next Republican front runner and every other thereafter…

shinty on February 26, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Please run her! Push, push, push! *whip sound*

Bmore on February 26, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Schadenfreude

Bmore on February 26, 2014 at 3:58 PM

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