Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on February 25, 2014 by Allahpundit

Republican Gov. Jan Brewer faced intensifying pressure Monday from CEOs, politicians in Washington and state lawmakers in her own party to veto a bill that would allow business owners with strongly held religious beliefs to deny service to gays and lesbians

Opponents call it a license to discriminate against gays.

Similar religious protection legislation has been introduced in Ohio, Mississippi, Idaho, South Dakota, Tennessee and Oklahoma, but Arizona’s plan is the only one that has passed. The efforts are stalled in Idaho, Ohio and Kansas.

Republicans stressed that the bill is not about discrimination but protecting religious freedom. They frequently cite the case of a New Mexico photographer who was sued after refusing to take wedding pictures of a gay couple. They said Arizona needs a law to protect people in the state from heavy-handed actions by courts.

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Call it what you want — anti-gay or religious rights — but if Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signs a controversial bill, you might not be calling Arizona the home of the 2015 Super Bowl.

The Religious Freedom Restoration Act, S.B. 1062, is the current controversy du jour out of Arizona, and the National Football League is with the opposition.

“Our policies emphasize tolerance and inclusiveness and prohibit discrimination based on age, gender, race, religion, sexual orientation or any other improper standard,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told USA Today. “We are following the issue in Arizona and will continue to do so should the bill be signed into law, but will decline further comment at this time.”

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A personal call was placed by Apple to Arizona governor Jan Brewer, urging her to veto the state’s SB 1062 bill, which would allow Arizonans to discriminate against LGBT people (among other groups) on the basis of a religious objection. Businesses would have to uphold the state’s ruling, meaning employees of Apple’s factory as well as its retail stores there could refuse to hire or work alongside gays for personal beliefs, which probably flies in the face of Apple’s own anti-discrimination policies.

No fewer than 83 companies, inluding American Airlines and Marriott, have signed a letter supporting a veto of the bill saying that anti-gay legislation will hurt business.

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Proponents of the legislation – which Brewer has until Saturday to sign or veto and is reportedly leaning against – say the bill is designed to protect religious liberty. But many Washington Republicans see it as a political loser, giving the left another cudgel to attack conservatives as intolerant, while motivating liberals and younger voters ahead of the midterm elections. It also threatens to widen the chasm between social conservatives and GOP operatives, who have become increasingly public in their support for gay marriage.

“There are lots of economic and fiscal issues that people care pretty deeply about. I think those are good issues for us to focus on,” Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) said Tuesday when asked about the bill, SB 1062. “We’ll stay focused on Obamacare. Those are the issues we want to talk about.”…

If Brewer signs the legislation, the major concern of party strategists is that opponents would launch an initiative drive to overturn it. A referendum in November would allow the debate about whether denying services to gays is discriminatory to simmer through November, drawing global attention and increasing turnout among younger, liberal voters. This could complicate GOP hopes of holding the open governorship and picking up targeted House seats.

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She has surprised us before, but Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is likely going to veto the state’s controversial bill that would let businesses refuse service to gay and lesbian customers on religious grounds, a move that again shows how much national politics have moved on social issues.

The determination, first reported Tuesday by NBC News, will bolster the unconventional governor’s image as a politician escaping neat, partisan definitions. But it also reaffirms her status as a stateswoman keenly aware of the politics of the moment, both in her state and around the country…

Beyond the political calculations, Brewer, who has until Saturday to make a decision on the bill, has also proved she is not nearly as conservative as her state Legislature, or her common caricatures, would lead us to believe. She has frequently confounded her own party by standing as a bulwark against her Republican state House’s agenda, including its opposition to Medicaid expansion under Obamacare, which she embraced, or a push to allow guns on college campuses.

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Under current Arizona law, if a business wanted to discriminate against gays, they would not need this bill to be passed to do so. It is not currently illegal for a business to deny service to someone because they are gay. Some cities in Arizona have ordinances against it but there is no state law against it. If business owners in Arizona wanted to deny service to gays, they could do so in most of the state under current law.

Even though business owners across most of Arizona (and much of the United States) have the right to deny service to gays, they are not doing so. Opponents of the bill claim it would usher in an era of “Jim Crow for gays,” in which gays would be denied service at businesses across the state. If business owners really wanted to do this, though, they could already be doing it. The bill does not make that more or less likely. Business owners do not want to deny service to gays. This is not because they fear government sanction. Rather, it is because: 1) Their religious, ethical or moral beliefs tell them it is wrong to deny service; and/or, 2) the profit motive – turning away customers is no way to run a business.

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Arizona’s RFRA, as it currently stands, does not contain the necessary specificity regarding who can use RFRA for protection if the government discriminates against them because of their religious faith. Contrary to the voices that oppose protecting religious freedom for all Arizonans, Senate Bill 1062 and House Bill 2153, which were approved last week, will not allow people to do “whatever they want” in the name of religion.

The use of the amended RFRA will only come into play when the government’s law inhibits someone from freely acting in accordance with his or her faith, as has always been the case. And even then, sincerely held religious beliefs will continue to be balanced against state interests. So, Arizona will always be able to make certain things — like murder — crimes even if someone says that his religious beliefs require him to kill someone…

No Arizonan should be forced to choose between making a living and living free. An amended bill that provides a safeguard from laws that violate our First Amendment freedoms — while still letting government enact laws necessary to the common good — is a sensible one.

No court in Arizona should be able to tell you that a violation of those freedoms is just the “price of citizenship.”

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But this is another example of how this schism cannot be easily brushed aside like so many wedding cake crumbs. In recent years, libertarian-leaning conservatives have largely sided with the gay rights argument. Proud members of the “leave us alone” coalition were apt to side with a group of people who just wanted to be left alone to love the person they love (and what happens in the bedroom is nobody’s business).

At some point, however, “leave us alone” became “bake us a cake. Or else!”

The reason conservative Christians are fighting this fight today is because it’s a firewall. The real danger, of course, is that Christian pastors and preachers will eventually be coerced into performing same-sex marriages…

Gay rights and religious liberty are on a collision course.

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In T. H. White’s The Once and Future King, the nature of totalitarianism is captured in the motto “Everything not forbidden is compulsory.” Gay marriage has made the sprint from forbidden to compulsory in record time; the day before yesterday, a homosexual marriage was a legal impossibility — and today it is a crime to sit one out.

Gay Americans, like many members of minority groups, are poorly served by their self-styled leadership. Like feminists and union bosses, the leaders of the nation’s gay organizations suffer from oppression envy, likening their situation to that of black Americans — as though having to find a gay-friendly wedding planner (pro tip: try swinging a dead cat) were the moral equivalent of having spent centuries in slavery and systematic oppression under Jim Crow. Their goal is not toleration or even equal rights but official victim-group status under law and in civil society, allowing them to use the courts and other means of official coercion to impose their own values upon those who hold different values…

One of the defects of our civil-rights law is the overly broad concept of “public accommodation,” which has been expanded to include virtually every business that is open to the public. But a business is not public property; it is private property. People of good will ought to allow fairly broad leeway for how people conduct their own lives and their own business — private autonomy is, after all, a large part of the case for gay rights. If gay leaders were willing to extend to those who do not share their views the same tolerance to which they feel themselves entitled, then a modus vivendi could emerge through the healthful operations of civil society. Those who do not wish to participate in gay weddings or other events could decline to do so — and those who believe them to be bigots could take their business elsewhere. In fact, one protester of the Arizona law has precisely the right idea: Outraged by the passage of this bill, a pizza-shop operator hung a sign in his door announcing that members of the state legislature were personae non gratae in his establishment. That, and not the micromanagement of secular divines in black robes, is the way to sort out this kind of social controversy.

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Dear Omaha,

Chill out. I bet I’m getting more than you anyway. Jealous?

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 11:12 PM

I remember that case. Her two white kids were killed+her and the 2 mixed kids lived. Those kids are being raised by her dad.
If there was ever a reason to use Capitol punishment…

annoyinglittletwerp on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Under current Arizona law, if a business wanted to discriminate against gays, they would not need this bill to be passed to do so. It is not currently illegal for a business to deny service to someone because they are gay. Some cities in Arizona have ordinances against it but there is no state law against it. If business owners in Arizona wanted to deny service to gays, they could do so in most of the state under current law.

So if a wedding photographer or baker refuses service to a gay couple and get sued by the gay couple, the lawsuit would automatically be thrown out by a judge? Ok, then nobody has anything to worry about…

…in Fantasy Land.

Dongemaharu on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

I was hoping maybe brushingmyhair would call me Danceman.

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

But I don’t blame her completely for the ‘wingers that threw this her way.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:11 PM

You’re OK with using the force of government to make people conduct business?
And does calling people “wingers” win them to your side?

Alien on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Allahpundit another very good article on a very touchy subject. It is sad to see that some posters on HotAir don’t agree with you.

SC.Charlie on February 25, 2014 at 11:17 PM

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 11:10 PM

I was introducing myself to folks as HA’s VERY unoffical Lubbock representative.
That got some laughs.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 25, 2014 at 11:17 PM

i am a dude. well no thats not right, i am a guy. wwwwweeelllllllllll I’m gender fluid between dude and guy. just to be clear.

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Yeah, Pickles tried that too. Guys (or dudes) don’t brush their hair, sweetie.

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Oh well. Looks like I gotta give some blogging lessons again.

Did the plane just arrive from pikerville?

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Allahpundit another very good article on a very touchy subject. It is sad to see that some posters on HotAir don’t agree with you.

SC.Charlie on February 25, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Nothing in this article comes from AP.

nobar on February 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Chill out. I bet I’m getting more than you anyway….

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

…with your right hand…or your left hand?

KOOLAID2 on February 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

canopfor on February 25, 2014 at 10:55 PM

I love how they actually think any of us would think differently if the bill gave Muslims the ability to discriminate and not serve “white Christians.” Dumbazzes don’t get the point. Most of us believe that the government should not force ANY business to serve anyone they don’t want.

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 10:58 PM

melle1228:

And that is thee point, ever since Hopey hit the scene,
its been Gay Hystery, and whether one likes it or not,
(liberal mindset),your gonna get in line, and be forced
to accept all things Gay!!:)

canopfor on February 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

So is the Lanceman Pickle wedding off or on?

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

She probably likes men, omahaconservative. .

HillC Liver Spot on February 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Did the plane just arrive from pikerville?

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Well, a pike is a fish. And in this case it should be a pufferfish. As in peterpufferfish…

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:19 PM

I don’t understand why BMH- babymakinghips won’t blow Lanceman a kiss.

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 11:19 PM

I remember that case. Her two white kids were killed+her and the 2 mixed kids lived. Those kids are being raised by her dad.
If there was ever a reason to use Capitol punishment…

annoyinglittletwerp on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Yep, that was my brother-in-law’s cousin. And Ryan commuted their sentence even though they killed her little boy and girl, and they were found with the infant. He refused to listen to the pleas from the family too.

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 11:19 PM

So is the Lanceman Pickle wedding off or on?

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

DANCEman, you blowmonkey!

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Final episode of Breaking Bad…kinda excited!

Murphy9 on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Correction. He just hits on dudes.

HillC Liver Spot on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Nothing in this article comes from AP.

nobar on February 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Common mistake, for some reason. Maybe AP should put a disclaimer on QOTD.

KCB on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

yah i don’t brush my hair. its just my handle. i just smooth some groom and clean with my palms over my hair IRL.

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

You’re OK with using the force of government to make people conduct business?
And does calling people “wingers” win them to your side?

Alien on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Yes I am. Are you OK with businesses refusing to serve Blacks? Because this is essentially the same thing.

Then again, some of you were longing for the pre emancipation era the other night.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

It’s Barb noneoyodangbidness. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on February 25, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Ya made it too easy.

—————
For the naif – HA is not the forum for any conversion. It’s just a battlefield btw the logical and the lost.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 11:21 PM

I don’t understand why BMH- babymakinghips won’t blow Lanceman a kiss.

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Yeah, brushingmyhair. Blow me one last kiss.

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:21 PM

…with your right hand…or your left hand?

KOOLAID2 on February 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Oh, I’m pretty sure most of the contributors on this board are using their own hands a lot more than I am ;)

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:21 PM

yah i don’t brush my hair. its just my handle. i just smooth some groom and clean with my palms over my hair IRL.

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Too much work. I let mine air dry into whatever shape it’s in.

nobar on February 25, 2014 at 11:22 PM

UGHS,…….yup,…OverReaction OverLoads:

Rex Spencer ‏@RexSpencer3 17m

Come to Arizona all you white Christians! We have our own state now! After Gov. Brewer signs into effect #SB1062 were bringin back Slavery!

canopfor on February 25, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Maybe next open registration Mr O_o will have the balls to sign up.

<–insert [intentionally left blank]

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:22 PM

So, are you guys ready to defend Jim Crow laws???

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Dear Omaha, Chill out. I bet I’m getting more than you anyway. Jealous? HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

He has all the pu$$y he can handle.

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Yes I am. Are you OK with businesses refusing to serve Blacks? Because this is essentially the same thing.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

It’s not the same thing, and you diminish the suffering of slavery, for shame. Only a thuggish leftist can do such.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

i just smooth some groom and clean with my palms over my hair IRL.

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Yeah, nice try. They quit making that after all those hillbillies went blind.

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

So, are you guys ready to defend Jim Crow laws???

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

WTF is wrong with these retarteds?

Murphy9 on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

When I Get Low I Get High

jaime on February 25, 2014 at 11:24 PM

It’s not the same thing, and you diminish the suffering of slavery, for shame. Only a thuggish leftist can do such.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

It is the same thing.

You believe government is overstepping by protecting the rights of gay consumers but not overstepping when protecting the rights of black consumers. (Or do you?)

You can’t have it both ways!

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:24 PM

The Muslims will fix all this, soon. Heads will roll.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 11:24 PM

An athiest couple want to get married in church, for one of the parents’ sake. Preacher refuses. Is the preacher right or wrong?

KCB on February 25, 2014 at 11:25 PM

He has all the pu$$y he can handle.

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Toys don’t count :D

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:25 PM

i guess its good since like you can’t even get gay married in arizona anyways and everyone is worrying about baking cakes there already so i guess gay marriage has been conceded? or you realize its a lost battle? the neocons keep retreating.

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 11:25 PM

So, are you guys ready to defend Jim Crow laws???

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Lemme just put it this way:

Caw! Caw! Caw!

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:25 PM

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

You are born a race.
Homosexuality is a behavior.
How one behaves is a CHOICE.
Get it. Got it. Good.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Yes I am. Are you OK with businesses refusing to serve Blacks? Because this is essentially the same thing.

Then again, some of you were longing for the pre emancipation era the other night.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Do you believe a gay tattoo artist has the right to refuse to tattoo someone with a “I hate homos” tattoo?

non-nonpartisan on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

So, are you guys ready to defend Jim Crow laws???

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Jim Crow made it a crime not to discriminate. Nothing at all like this:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

If we only followed it.

nobar on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Well,…it could be worse’er:

Uganda anti-gay law

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/uganda-anti-homosexuality-law/

canopfor on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Yes I am. Are you OK with businesses refusing to serve Blacks? Because this is essentially the same thing.

Then again, some of you were longing for the pre emancipation era the other night.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

This has been answered ad nauseam… Yes, if a business owner does not want to serve blacks, then yes under his property rights and his right of association he should have the right to do that. The free market/customers then has the right to decide that the business owner is a bigot and they do not want to support his business through patronage.

You really think that a businessman who said he wouldn’t serve black people would survive the negative press/market today?

And second, do you really think that government force does ANYTHING to the real bigot. There are AMPLE ways for a bigot not to serve a certain customer base. The people who are not serving gays are taking a stand based/civil disobedience, but a true bigot would just tell a gay couple that they aren’t available or charge them double what the next baker charges.

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

You believe government is overstepping by protecting the rights of gay consumers but not overstepping when protecting the rights of black consumers. (Or do you?)

You can’t have it both ways!

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Honey, black is a color. Homosexuality is a behavior.

No ‘both ways’ about it.

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Lanceman, I know you play the extrem-rightwinger, but the truth is you can’t seriously defend this crap. None of you can.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:24 PM

You fool, you diminish slavery, thug.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

o, are you guys ready to defend Jim Crow laws??? HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Can a black photographer refuse a job snapping pics at a clan rally?

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Yes I am. Are you OK with businesses refusing to serve Blacks?
HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

I like my blacks well done with ketchup.

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Dear Omaha,

Chill out. I bet I’m getting more than you anyway. Jealous?

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Nope. I don’t need to be tested for STD’s weekly…

OmahaConservative on February 25, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Anyone remember when the NFL took away the Super Bowl from Tempe, AZ because AZ decided not to recognize MLK day? The NFL has been political for a long time.

DisneyFan on February 25, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Yes I am. Are you OK with businesses refusing to serve Blacks? Because this is essentially the same thing.

Then again, some of you were longing for the pre emancipation era the other night.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

I love it when progs who want to lynch black people who don’t vote for them try to call conservatives racists.

But we should remember that all progressives are racist. Every single one of them. They want to kill black people who don’t obey them.

northdallasthirty on February 25, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Yes I am. Are you OK with businesses refusing to serve Blacks?
HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Since I answered YOUR question, now answer mine?

Is it okay to make a black caterer cater a KKK meeting/

Is it okay to force a gay caterer to cater a Westboro Baptist wedding?

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 11:27 PM

So, are you guys ready to defend Jim Crow laws???
HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Cheryl Crow won’t let you wipe.

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

its easy to steal from blind hillbillies. i got a gross of it in my shelter. my hair will be nice and shiny for the gay apopeyelips.

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Oh Hair, you are cake obsessed. Try pie. It can be gay pie. It’s a free country.

HillC Liver Spot on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

you believe a gay tattoo artist has the right to refuse to tattoo someone with a “I hate homos” tattoo? non-nonpartisan on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Good one.

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

I like my blacks well done with ketchup.

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:27 PM

itsacookbook!

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Sodom and Gomorrah, here we come.

tommy71 on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

but the truth is you can’t seriously defend this crap.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Now you literally spake the truth.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

You fool, you diminish slavery, thug.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Fool. Thug.

Here’s one for you: idiot.

You all keep dodging.

Sparky’s reply just shows how “serious” some of you are about racial discrimination.

No wonder blacks flock to the Democratic party.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Yes I am. Are you OK with businesses refusing to serve Blacks? Because this is essentially the same thing.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

No, I would boycott such a business.

Are you OK with giving the state power to tell people who they can and can’t associate with?

kcewa on February 25, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Have you ever noticed that Quotes of the Day is just quotes from various articles? They have links in the quoted section that tells you where they are from. If you click these links it takes you to the original author and location. Allah links the sections of the quote he thinks are most pertinent to the over all theme for this thread.

Bmore on February 25, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Cheryl Crow won’t let you wipe.

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Aw, man, can you imagine going down on that? I think I’d rather Janeane Garafolo.

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Fool. Thug.

Here’s one for you: idiot.

You all keep dodging.

Sparky’s reply just shows how “serious” some of you are about racial discrimination.

No wonder blacks flock to the Democratic party.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Then black people are stupid, since the Obama Party wants to lynch and murder black people who disobey them.

Why does the Obama Party want black people to be their slaves? Is it because white liberals like Hillary are racists who will kill black people who disobey them?

northdallasthirty on February 25, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Since I answered YOUR question, now answer mine?

Is it okay to make a black caterer cater a KKK meeting/

Is it okay to force a gay caterer to cater a Westboro Baptist wedding?

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 11:27 PM

No. Leave it to a conservative to compare a gay person to the KKK.

Nice…

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:30 PM

The free market/customers then has the right to decide that the business owner is a bigot and they do not want to support his business through patronage.

thats right and businesses are ready to boycott arizona. FREE MARKET PRINCIPLES! MITLY GOT ONE RIGHT FINALLY!

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Or worse’er’er:

India’s Supreme Court Restores an 1861 Law Banning Gay Sex

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/12/world/asia/court-restores-indias-ban-on-gay-sex.html?_r=0
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One would think, that the LGBT Groups would be going after Uganda or India,
but nooooooooooooooooooooo, they have an axe to grind with Brewer, on imm
igration as well!!
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canopfor on February 25, 2014 at 11:30 PM

No, I would boycott such a business.

Are you OK with giving the state power to tell people who they can and can’t associate with?

kcewa on February 25, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Are you also planning on boycotting the businesses that don’t serve gays? Didn’t think so.

Look, this is personal for me. I just get a little tired of this crap.

And your boycotts do nothing for the black family that can’t get a hotel room or food due to racial bigotry.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:30 PM

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

I grew up center-right Jewish in a leftist black neighborhood.
I know a thing or two about ‘racism’.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM

So, are you guys ready to defend Jim Crow laws???

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Gays using government force to force someone to bake them a cake have more in common with Jim Crow laws then this law does.

Jim Crow laws was the government FORCING BUSINESSES to run the businesses and their customer base a certain way. Anti-discrimination laws do the very same thing.

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Are you OK with businesses refusing to serve Blacks? Because this is essentially the same thing.

Then again, some of you were longing for the pre emancipation era the other night.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PMHillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Despicable.

There is a huge difference between refusing to serve blacks and refusing to prepare a wedding cake for folks you will serve in every other way.

As for the inference we are all racist around here, go f*** yourself.

novaculus on February 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM

No wonder blacks flock to the Democratic party.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

They also elect (and re-elect) the loudest, stupidest and most corrupt from among them.

Your point is?

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM

So, are you guys ready to defend Jim Crow laws???

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM

They ere created by the Party you belong to Sweetie..

..so, you going to defend them??

ToddPA on February 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM

No one will ever see that.

Bmore on February 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM

anceman, I know you play the extrem-rightwinger, but the truth is you can’t seriously defend this crap. None of you can. HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Seems we are quite well. You haven’t answered anything.

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM

…I think getalife got dumber!…syphilis hit the brain?

KOOLAID2 on February 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM

You’re OK with using the force of government to make people conduct business?
And does calling people “wingers” win them to your side?

Alien on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Yes I am. …
HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Then you would want the government to force this business owner to serve the legislators whom he disagrees with?

Alien on February 25, 2014 at 11:32 PM

itsacookbook!

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM
I really need to rent that flick.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 25, 2014 at 11:32 PM

A business should be able to deny service to anyone it wants. If that business wants lots of money, they’ll cater to the bottom line, not who is “the bottom” in a gay relationship. There’s really no reason for the government to pass legislation either way, and it’s certainly not the judicial branch’s business to cater to lawsuits against businessess who refuse service to homosexual customers.

SouthernGent on February 25, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Shut Up

jaime on February 25, 2014 at 11:32 PM

And more crazy talk from northdallas.

I grew up center-right Jewish in a leftist black neighborhood.
I know a thing or two about ‘racism’.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Um, honey, puhlease.

But that makes a business discriminating against someone a ok?

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Dang. 2 trolls on QOTD. Either OFA is desperate or Allahpundit is bored.

22044 on February 25, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Fool. Thug.

Yes, you hyena. You diminish slavery, for utter shame.

Here’s one for you: idiot.

My nom is impervious. All with a brain know it.

You all keep dodging.

No one dodges here, except the chickenbrains.

Sparky’s reply just shows how “serious” some of you are about racial discrimination.

Sparky is the HA genius clown. Internalize this. He’s very, very intelligent but goofy…though, you need to live 7 lives to read as much as he does.

No wonder blacks flock to the Democratic party.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:28 PM

You hate them. You have them fooled into modern day plantations. You and obama have done Nothing for them. I helped way more blacks than you and him ever will. You like them uneducated and dependent, with 38% of black youth unemployed, cheering for a half black fool.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 11:33 PM

No. Leave it to a conservative to compare a gay person to the KKK.

Nice…

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Leave it to a liberal to be a drama queen.

A black person is offended by being forced to celebrate a KKK event.

A Christian is offended by being forced to celebrate a gay wedding.

And I notice you can’t answer the damn question..

Again, does a GAY CATERER HAVE TO SERVICE A WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH WEDDING OR NOT?

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Have you ever noticed that Quotes of the Day is just quotes from various articles? They have links in the quoted section that tells you where they are from. If you click these links it takes you to the original author and location. Allah links the sections of the quote he thinks are most pertinent to the over all theme for this thread.

Bmore on February 25, 2014 at 11:29 PM

And you are just now figuring this out?

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Hey, Shatfreude, take peddle your crap to someone that won’t be affected by this crazy law.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:33 PM

I think it is awful to flame broil black people. They should be deep fried.

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:33 PM

22044 on February 25, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Not very good though, are they?

Bmore on February 25, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Can we start auditioning the trolls for this site. It seems like every sign up, they get less and less intelligent.

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Again, does a GAY CATERER HAVE TO SERVICE A WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH WEDDING OR NOT?

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 11:33 PM

What? You can’t read?

NO

NO

NO!

Was it not clear in my response?

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:34 PM

SouthernGent on February 25, 2014 at 11:32 PM

yep

jaime on February 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Why are liberals so fking retarted?

Murphy9 on February 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM

White people on the other hand taste better when boiled in a butter sauce.

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Bmore on February 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM

I saw your post about QOTD….

KCB on February 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM

White people on the other hand taste better when boiled in a butter sauce.

SparkPlug on February 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Nice cover. You can say you were being equal-opportunity offensive when the blog monitor combs through the comments.

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM

you know it would be nice if some christians did bake a big old SORRY WE BEEN VILIFYING YOU GUYS WE PROMISE TO DO BETTER cake for the gays. that would go a long way i feel.

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM

No. Leave it to a conservative to compare a gay person to the KKK.

Nice…

HillAREwe on February 25, 2014 at 11:30 PM

That would be because the gay community uses the N-word and supports lynching black people, just like the KKK.

northdallasthirty on February 25, 2014 at 11:36 PM

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