McCain, Romney urge Jan Brewer to veto Arizona’s religious freedom bill

posted at 6:41 pm on February 25, 2014 by Allahpundit

So did Arizonan Jeff Flake, but the marquee names here obviously are the last two GOP nominees for president.

Ramesh Ponnuru asks a good question:

Yeah, that’s … interesting. Everyone can understand why a gay-marriage supporter would oppose the bill and everyone can understand why a gay-marriage opponent would support it. You can also understand why someone would support both: Gays should be free to marry and religious believers should be free not to accept an offer to provide services to them. Accommodation and MYOB coexistence, libertarian-style. The fourth position, though, where someone opposes gay marriage but also opposes letting believers decline service is less obvious. Could be that McCain and Romney simply think the bill’s overbroad; they might be fine with a bill that granted a religious exemption from serving at a gay wedding specifically, but they can’t condone one that would let people refuse to serve gays under any circumstance. Or maybe both of these guys, as centrist Republicans, are more supportive of legal gay marriage than they’re letting on and simply haven’t, er, come out yet.

Actually, skip to 1:20 below and you’ll see that neither is true in McCain’s case. He’s brutally frank about why he opposes the bill: The boycotts that ensue could damage Arizona businesses, and right now there’s no stronger Republican champion of business, both in Arizona and elsewhere, than John McCain.



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Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 7:18 PM

Never, and hope never to be either.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 7:22 PM

I listened to all 3 nightly news. Keep it up Republicans…you’ll not only lose the senate but house will be in jeopardy. Keep giving the Dems more ammunition. The party of stupid.

Redford on February 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Are you really this unbelievably stupid, Robert? The ‘rats will attempt to make every move the Rethuglicans make look like that! They discovered they can lie with impugnity in 2008. And the public may or may not eat it up at this point. Depends on how much pain they feel right now.

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Republicans hate people of color, other religious beliefs and of course gays.
Redford on February 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

No, we just hate f in low information idiots like you..

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Intimidation…

“Monday Republican Gov. Rick Perry’s comments after meeting with President Obama.

“I don’t mind telling you I was a bit troubled today by the tone of the president,”

“For the president of the United States to look Democrat and Republican governors in the eye and say ‘I do not trust you to make decisions in your state about education, about transportation-infrastructure,’ that is really troubling.”

“He said in that meeting ‘if I hear any of you pushing back, about making statements about Washington spends too much money, you’ll hear from me, If I’m a Democrat governor, if I’m a Republican governor, I’m highly offended by that. I will suggest that making a political statement about the Guard is not in the best long-term interests of this country.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/02/25/Perry-Troubled-Offened-by-Obamas-Tone

workingclass artist on February 25, 2014 at 7:26 PM

♫ Mitt’s a lumberjack,

He’s okay.

Sleeps all night,

works all day…♫

viking01 on February 25, 2014 at 7:26 PM

The bill—

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/51leg/2r/bills/sb1062p.pdf

Not really what the liars say it is… but they control the news and the Redfords gladly lap it up.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 25, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Republicans hate people of color, other religious beliefs and of course gays.
Redford on February 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Idiot liar of HA!!! Prove this, or get lost.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 7:26 PM

I listened to all 3 nightly news.

Redford on February 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

You were listening to your tiny brain. It’s an echo-chamber at all 3 nightly news…

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Republicans hate people of color, other religious beliefs and of course gays.
Redford on February 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

How can you possibly say such a thing? Why do you say that?

Bmore on February 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Laura Ingraham opposes the AZ bill on the grounds that it’s too broad.

Jon0815 on February 25, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Laura Ingraham also opposed Palin as a candidate and had two hate-fests of her with Acid-Ann Coulter on behalf of the elitist GOP.
After that betrayal, I could care what she thinks.

Don L on February 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM

She’s going to veto it, so the issue will be moot soon, but McCain and Romney need to just stfu.

changer1701 on February 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM

The Democrats are fortunate to have Republicans doing their work for them. If they’re really lucky, McCain et al. will split the Republican Party for them.

oldennis on February 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 7:26 PM

How can you possibly say such a thing? Why do you say that?

Bmore on February 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM

In all fairness to Redbrain, I only quoted half his quote. He said that the nightly news were portraying Repubs that way. Of course, that was after his diatribe about how stupid we all were.

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Redford on February 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

How can you possibly say such a thing? Why do you say that?

Bmore on February 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM

I think his point in this comment was that the news talking heads will be more than happy to spin the signing of this law that way.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 25, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Actually, skip to 1:20 below and you’ll see that neither is true in McCain’s case. He’s brutally frank about why he opposes the bill: The boycotts that ensue could damage Arizona businesses, and right now there’s no stronger Republican champion of business, both in Arizona and elsewhere, than John McCain.

If you state ahead of time that you will quickly fold to proggie boycotts, there are sure to be proggie boycotts.

slickwillie2001 on February 25, 2014 at 7:35 PM

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 25, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Oh. His view of the talking heads actions. Thanks. I should have read his comment more thoroughly. The news I expect that type of broad brush indictment from.

Bmore on February 25, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Was razzing him. He nailed it.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Are you referring to me as “him” and “he”? Not that it matters that I’m a “her” and a “she.” Those thingeys are just societal constructs anyway. LOL

texacalirose on February 25, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Yeah. Conservative bigots are the new blacks. Oh, and learn the difference between affect/effect. It makes you sound uneducated.

lostmotherland on February 25, 2014 at 6:56 PM

So does thinking a US Senate seat can be gerrymandered.

slickwillie2001 on February 25, 2014 at 7:40 PM

Ok, new page, third request: may a Christian baker refuse to bake a cake in the shape of a phallus for an anal wedding couple?

Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Oh, and learn the difference between affect/effect. It makes you sound uneducated. lostmotherland on February 25, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Effect is generally used as a verb these days. Affect is mainly relegated to writings that are psychological in nature, you dope.

Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Even GOPers who voted for the bill are asking that Gov Brewer veto. Then why did they vote for it?

Tasha on February 25, 2014 at 7:12 PM

They’re caving in to the media and professional “victim” industry’s pressure. The bill is nothing more than a clarification of AZ’s existing religious freedom law. But the left, as usual, is grossly misrepresenting the scope and purpose of the proposed law in order to stir up the LIV’s. (Another recent example of this was when Obama was out on the stump a few years ago railing against S.B. 1070, and telling Americans that Arizona was trying to pass a law to give police the power to harass innocent hispanic men whose only crime was that they wanted to walk to the neighborhood ice cream store to buy cones for their little darlings!)

The politicians are reacting this way because the disinformation campaign by the left is working.

AZCoyote on February 25, 2014 at 7:45 PM

The bill—

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/51leg/2r/bills/sb1062p.pdf

Not really what the liars say it is… but they control the news and the Redfords gladly lap it up.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 25, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Thanks for that link. You’re absolutely right.

The link should also be in the post to highlight what it says.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 7:46 PM

k, new page, third request: may a Christian baker refuse to bake a cake in the shape of a phallus for an anal wedding couple? Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 7:41 P

Can a black photographer refuse to take pictures for a k*k*k rally?

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 7:47 PM

As for Romney, he has a long history of trying to thread the needle on this (as well as pro-life issues).

These politicians want to have their cake and eat it to. They try to find high-sounding phrases to cover their lack of principles.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Even GOPers who voted for the bill are asking that Gov Brewer veto. Then why did they vote for it?

Tasha on February 25, 2014 at 7:12 PM

They are caving to Intimidation.

workingclass artist on February 25, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Ok, new page, third request: may a Christian baker refuse to bake a cake in the shape of a phallus for an anal wedding couple?

Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 7:41 PM

I certainly hope so…

OmahaConservative on February 25, 2014 at 7:50 PM

A more complete quote at Rightscoop…Basically Obama has politicized the National Guard.

“Rick Perry admitted at the RGA today that he was very troubled by Obama’s tone today addressing the National Governors Association:

I don’t mind telling you I was a bit troubled today by the tone of the president. …For the president of the United States to look Democrat and Republican governors in the eye and to say ‘I do not trust you to make decisions in your state about issues of education, about transportation infrastructure…’ – that is really troubling.

Perry went on to say that Obama was going to hollow out the National Guard and warned the state governors not to push back against it or they would hear from him:

Democrat Governors are very concerned, I will suggest to you, about what they heard today about the Guard. I left the United States Air Force in the mid ‘70s, in February of 1977, as our country was going through a similar period of time of reducing the force. But those men and women who had extraordinary expertise in combat were going into the Guard and into the Reserves.

I hope we’re not about to make a tragic mistake in this country by hollowing out our Guard in our states in some political statement of ‘you’re all going to feel the pain’. Because that’s certainly what I heard from the president of the United States today.

As a matter of fact he said in that meeting “if I hear any of you pushing back, making statements about Washington spends too much money, you’ll hear from me.”

If I’m a Democrat governor, if I’m a Republican governor, I’m highly offended by that.

Yes it is our duty to defend the people of this country. But I will suggest that making a political statement about the Guard is not in the best long-term interest of this country and it’s certainly not in the best long-term interest of those men and women who have committed and often times sacrificed greatly for this country….”

Video at the link:

http://therightscoop.com/rick-perry-i-was-troubled-today-by-the-tone-of-the-president/

workingclass artist on February 25, 2014 at 7:52 PM

new page, third request: may a Christian baker refuse to bake a cake in the shape of a phallus for an anal wedding couple? Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Let’s suppose they did, and the cake tasted like crap. Do they get sued for that?

Can anyone I legitimately refuse to do business with claim they are gay and sue me?

Do gay clients with shitty credit get affirmative action?

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 7:53 PM

This is the best summary of Romney placing political expediency about marriage over not only principles, but the Massachusetts constitution. From May 2004:

The Missing Governor
Have Republican leaders lost their confidence on basic moral matters?

By Hadley Arkes

Romney was a political coward—as is the entire GOPe. Their principles are malleable, and they are superficial thinkers—all of them. They’d sell their grandmother with high-sounding phrases if they could get political points for it.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Let’s suppose they did, and the cake tasted like crap. Do they get sued for that?

Can anyone I legitimately refuse to do business with claim they are gay and sue me?

Do gay clients with shitty credit get affirmative action?

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 7:53 PM

So many double entendres I don’t know where to start…

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 7:55 PM

I listened to all 3 nightly news. Keep it up Republicans…you’ll not only lose the senate but house will be in jeopardy. Keep giving the Dems more ammunition. The party of stupid.

Redford on February 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Republicans hate people of color, other religious beliefs and of course gays.
Redford on February 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

….Robert?…ROBERT?…ROBERT!…is that you?

KOOLAID2 on February 25, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Business as usual, we are made to compromise and our lessers in out party surrender.
We are not racist, bigot, homophobes like the media tells the stupid people like Redford. We just have principles and values that we are not ready to sell out.

HillC Liver Spot on February 25, 2014 at 8:00 PM

I still get angry when I think about Romney. He literally opened the barn door on redefining marriage and let the horse out. He didn’t even have the guts to do it openly because he knew it would harm him nationally when he ran for president. He did it in a passive-aggressive retreating kind of way.

He didn’t have to do so because when John Adams (yes, the John Adams) wrote the MA constitution, marriage was specifically mentioned with directives on how the law was to be changed. The MA court trampled the constitution and Romney let it get away with it.

Romney was without courage and without moral principles. He sold his soul for political points.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Ok, new page, third request: may a Christian baker refuse to bake a cake in the shape of a phallus for an anal wedding couple?

Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Not in this world they can’t. What’s funny to me is that back in the 60s we had “conscientious objectors” who didn’t believe in war and refused to fight and dodged the draft. And who backed up their right to do this? The liberals. Now they’ve “progressed” to the point where no one has a right to refuse anything based on their beliefs, we’re all supposed to fit in this cookie cutter unicorn butterfly world where everyone agrees with their ideology or they’re some kind of outcast whose right to think for themselves should be banished by a new law. Don’t want to bake a gay cake? Fine, lose your business and go broke trying to fight them. It’s ludicrous.

scalleywag on February 25, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Ok, but I’m sorta trying to get an answer from someone who wants to force bakers to bake cakes for anal weddings. May a baker refuse to bake a cake in the shape of a phallus without legal consequences?

Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Here’s a good article to read if you want to know what the proposed law is actually about, as opposed to all the nonsensical hype about it being pushed by the loony left.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/issue-analysis-arizona-bill-does-not-give-businesses-license-to-discriminate-against-gays-115093/

AZCoyote on February 25, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Sportscaster Craig James filed a legal complaint against Fox Sports Tuesday alleging that he was taken off the air because of his support for traditional marriage, as a senior VP at Fox Sports admitted to the media.

Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 8:10 PM

I still get angry when I think about Romney. He literally opened the barn door on redefining marriage and let the horse out. He didn’t even have the guts to do it openly because he knew it would harm him nationally when he ran for president. He did it in a passive-aggressive retreating kind of way.

He didn’t have to do so because when John Adams (yes, the John Adams) wrote the MA constitution, marriage was specifically mentioned with directives on how the law was to be changed. The MA court trampled the constitution and Romney let it get away with it.

Romney was without courage and without moral principles. He sold his soul for political points.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:03 PM

And still you and several others here voted for him!!

Ha!

This GOP is too divided against itself. It cannot and must not survive.

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:14 PM

It is full blown newspeak 1984. The bill is actually opposite of what it is called, and most guaranteed to infringe ont he right of businesses to refuse to provide services when it contradicts their religious beliefs. Right now they can, after this bill they have to demostrate how providing the servie will violate their beliefs. The bill has to be vetoed, because it is unconstitutional.

anikol on February 25, 2014 at 8:15 PM

As an Arizonan I can tell you that with Apple hinting they may pull out of the manufacturing plant they are going to build in Mesa and the NFL threatening to pull the 2015 superbowl, the odds of Brewer not vetoing are less than zero.

Kataklysmic on February 25, 2014 at 6:49 PM

FREE MARKET PRINCIPLES ARE SOLVING ALL THE MORAL DILEMMAS! PRAISE BE TO MILTON FRIEDMAN!

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Sportscaster Craig James filed a legal complaint against Fox Sports Tuesday alleging that he was taken off the air because of his support for traditional marriage, as a senior VP at Fox Sports admitted to the media.

Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Good. Turn the tables on these jackholes.

Bitter Clinger on February 25, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Mite_Is_Right voted for Obama. Look where that got him. Watch the divided rats run from president titanic.

HillC Liver Spot on February 25, 2014 at 8:17 PM

May a baker refuse to bake a cake in the shape of a phallus without legal consequences?

Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 8:09 PM

yes a baker can refuse without legal consequences. remember the happy birthday adolph hitler cake a bakery refused to bake? they weren’t sued.

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 8:18 PM

The happy birthday hitler people were not part of the victim class. They’re just stupid.

HillC Liver Spot on February 25, 2014 at 8:19 PM

I still remember 2004 when Turd Blossom aka Karl Rove put anti-gay initiatives on state ballots in several states, especially battleground states like Ohio, to boost evangelical turnout.

SoCons loved it came out like moths attracted to flame. Dubya Bush got elected by thinnest of margins in Ohio.

Those were the good times for GOPe.

My, oh, my how things have changed in 10 years. Same Sex Marriage is now a political winner for Democrats and political loser for GOPe.

The entire weight of dollar rich NFL, Tourism industry, some of the biggest Corporations etc. is being put on Jan Brewer. She has no choice.

Ha!

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Same sex marriage is now a winner for rats? How many states have VOTED on a ballot to make same sex marriage legal?

HillC Liver Spot on February 25, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Wow, the trolls haven’t gotten any better, have they? Who’s this new one? Someone have to put on another sock when they got caught/banned earlier?

Midas on February 25, 2014 at 8:25 PM

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 8:16 PM

THERE you are, sweetie!

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Same sex marriage is now a winner for rats? How many states have VOTED on a ballot to make same sex marriage legal?

HillC Liver Spot on February 25, 2014 at 8:23 PM

3 states voted for it on ballot. Maryland, Washington and Maine.

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Can a black photographer refuse to take pictures for a k*k*k rally?

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Can a liberal actor refuse to be in an NRA commercial?

db on February 25, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Ok, new page, third request: may a Christian baker refuse to bake a cake in the shape of a phallus for an anal wedding couple?

Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Only if chocolate or fudge frosting is requested.

BL@KBIRD on February 25, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Personal opposition to gay marriage is not the same thing as actively legislating against it.

I’m sure Romney still maintains his stance against SSM but is taking the church’s hands off approach, maintaining ‘kindness and civility’, while the courts continue their arguments…

While these matters will continue to evolve, we affirm that those who avail themselves of laws or court rulings authorizing same-sex marriage should not be treated disrespectfully. The gospel of Jesus Christ teaches us to love and treat all people with kindness and civility—even when we disagree.

The Church acknowledges that same-sex marriage and the issues surrounding it can be divisive and hurtful. As Church members strive to protect marriage between a man and a woman, they should show respect, civility, and kindness toward others who have different points of view.

The Church’s affirmation of marriage as being between a man and a woman “neither constitutes nor condones any kind of hostility toward gays and lesbians.” Church members are to treat all people with love and humanity. They may express genuine love and kindness toward a gay or lesbian family member, friend, or other person without condoning any redefinition of marriage.

The Ugly American on February 25, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Three states? Oh yeah, that’s a barn burner for the democrats, goat tart. A real winner.

HillC Liver Spot on February 25, 2014 at 8:31 PM

3 states voted for it on ballot. Maryland, Washington and Maine. brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 8:28 PM

How many have voted against, including Californication?

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Sure wish AZFederalist was still posting here…

OmahaConservative on February 25, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Ok, new page, third request: may a Christian baker refuse to bake a cake in the shape of a phallus for an anal wedding couple?

Akzed on February 25, 2014 at 7:41 PM

they can refuse the phallus shape of the cake yes. in arizona wether this bill is vetoed or not they could refuse service to the “anal wedding couple” which i assume you mean gay couple? without any legal consequences. what do you have against anal anyways?

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 8:32 PM

The Ugly American on February 25, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Go read the link The Missing Governor. There are no excuses for what Romney did. It was unprincipled. He did not uphold the MA constitution.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:33 PM

The Mormon Church had no choice but to support Prop 8.

Had they not, why even have a church?

The people spoke. Then the courts spoke.

Now, they are leaving it in God’s hands.

The Ugly American on February 25, 2014 at 8:33 PM

And Romney pulled a similar bob and weave and cowardly, politically expedient retreat on abortion and RomneyCare.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:34 PM

How many have voted against, including Californication?

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 8:31 PM

i dunno. google it yourself. then tell us.

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 8:34 PM

The more the GOPe and its crazy base talk against Gay Marriage and Gay Rights, the more they confirm that they are bigots and especially so in the eyes of today’s youth who are overwhelmingly in favor of Gay Marriage and Gay Rights.

GOPe will use the young generation for a long time.

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM

3 states voted for it on ballot. Maryland, Washington and Maine. brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 8:28 PM

How many have voted against, including Californication?

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 8:31 PM

In Maine the first vote went against redefining marriage. The gays didn’t like that so they went for a do-over.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Once again the left will win. The disinformation campaign has worked, you can tell from all the hysteria.

Brewer will veto because she has to. They will lose the Super Bowl and a lot of businesses are threatening to move from the state otherwise.

Terrible to think of what things have come to.

cat_owner on February 25, 2014 at 8:36 PM

In Maine the first vote went against redefining marriage. The gays didn’t like that so they went for a do-over.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I am sure some states in the union would like to vote in Slavery again.

There is a reason rights of a minority should not be up for a vote.

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:38 PM

How many have voted against, including Californication?

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 8:31 PM

“All told, the people of 41 states have affirmed the conjugal view of marriage by direct voting or through their representatives.”

That’s from March of last year.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:39 PM

GOPe will use the young generation for a long time.

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM

The GOPe might. Because the Demonrats will too.

22044 on February 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM

I’ve got ten bucks that Mite_Might_Bite is on top of Redford having a do-over.
Racist, bigot, homophobes lost it’s bite many years ago.

HillC Liver Spot on February 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Willard’s acquiescence/cooperation with the MA SJC decision (legalizing “gay marriage”) was well known to a tiny band of authentic Massachusetts conservatives. It was brought out by several socially conservative groups during the primaries but Willard’s death star that wiped out actual conservatives drowned out the truth.

vilebody on February 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM

I think since last March the MN legislature voted to redefine marriage.

Last March I created a map a year ago from the lists that are in Peter Sprigg’s post Clarifying the Count of Marriage Amendments and Referenda from May 18, 2012. Read the post for his walk-through of some of the states’ legal battles. I modified that list from May with his post of November 26, 2012, The Irony of the November 2012 Marriage Votes.

Here was the breakdown at that time:

20 states: Number of states in which the state constitution prevents legal recognition of same-sex marriages, civil unions, or domestic partnerships.

20 states + 10 states = 30 states: Number of states in which the state constitution defines civil marriage as the union of one man and one woman.

20 states + 10 states + 1 state = 31 states: Number of states which have amended their state constitutions to prevent legalization of same-sex marriage. (Hawaii amendment (1998) reserving the definition of marriage to the legislature).

20 states + 10 states + 1 state+ 1 state = 32 states: Number of states where voters have, either explicitly or implicitly, rejected the legalization of same-sex marriage. (Iowa judicial retention election (2010), removing state Supreme Court judges who voted to impose same-sex marriage).

20 states + 10 states + 1 state + 1 state + 9 states = 41 states: Number of states where marriage remains the union of a man and a woman under state law. (There was no list in Sprigg’s post, only a final count, and so to the best of my knowledge I identified the remaining 9 states. I’ll let you know if I need to update the map).

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:43 PM

I painstakingly went through the lists last March and did my best to be accurate. If you want to see the map that I did, it is here:

http://upstreampolitics.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/the-state-of-marriage-in-the-states/

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:45 PM

“Sportscaster Craig James filed a legal complaint against Fox Sports Tuesday alleging that he was taken off the air because of his support for traditional marriage, as a senior VP at Fox Sports admitted to the media.

However, court filings obtained exclusively by Breitbart News show Fox Sports President Eric Shanks saying that his senior VP’s statements were false, leading James’s lawyers to say that either Shanks lied under oath, or Fox Sports is now liable for defamation.
Fox Sports President Eric Shanks admitted in a deposition that a senior VP at Fox Sports told media outlets that sportscaster Craig James was fired from the network because of his support for traditional marriage. Shanks says that statement to the press was untrue. Lawyers for James have filed a religious-discrimination legal complaint and are headed to court.

The legal complaint is with the Texas Workforce Commission, alleging James was terminated because he expressed a traditional Christian belief on marriage between a man and woman in 2012 when James was a candidate for U.S. Senate in Texas. His lawyers now also tell Breitbart News that they believe Fox Sports President Eric Shanks either lied under oath in this matter, or that Fox Sports is liable for defamation.

This is an update to Breitbart News’s Sept. 26, 2013 story on James, the former ESPN commentator who was briefly on-air with Fox Sports. As that story describes in detail, James was booted by Fox Sports after only one day of on-air coverage in which there were no incidents. The Dallas Morning News reported that the decision came from Fox Sports management’s becoming aware that James had expressed opposition to gay marriage, quoting a source as saying, “We just asked ourselves how Craig’s statements would play in our human resources department. You couldn’t say those things here.”

Liberty Institute, a Texas-based law firm specializing in free speech and religious liberty, is representing James. Their complaint is accompanied by a letter from James’s lawyers claiming:
Fox Sports engaged in direct religious discrimination against Craig James.

Fox Sports announced that not only were they firing Craig James because of his sincerely held religious beliefs by telling the public his religious beliefs about marriage, but also that Fox Sports would not hire or allow anyone to work at Fox Sports who holds religious beliefs similar to Craig James.

The complaint and letter can be read in their entirety below…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2014/02/25/Craig-James-Files-Lawsuit-Against-Fox-Sports-for-Religious-Discrimination

workingclass artist on February 25, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Republicans hate people of color, other religious beliefs and of course gays.
Redford on February 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

A troll that needed screening.

Sherman1864 on February 25, 2014 at 8:46 PM

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Nevermind that stuff. You come visit me on QOTD.

Lanceman on February 25, 2014 at 8:47 PM

There is a reason rights of a minority should not be up for a vote.

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Since homosexuality is not genetic, why is it a civil rights issue at all?

Rebar on February 25, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:38 PM

We’re not talking about rights. We’re talking about redefining marriage.

Gays merely have pushed it as a right for the purpose of propaganda and superficial appeal.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Willard’s acquiescence/cooperation with the MA SJC decision (legalizing “gay marriage”) was well known to a tiny band of authentic Massachusetts conservatives. It was brought out by several socially conservative groups during the primaries but Willard’s death star that wiped out actual conservatives drowned out the truth.

vilebody on February 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Willard was the only adult in that 2012 Clown Car.

Who else had even a realistic shot?
– pizza guy Hermain Cain?

– thrice divorced, ethically challenged Newt Gingrich?

– Rick Santorum? LOL!

– Oops Perry?

And still GOPe and its crazy base kept saying “oh my dog will beat Obama” yeah, right.

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:47 PM

am sure some states in the union would like to vote in Slavery again. There is a reason rights of a minority should not be up for a vote. Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Slavery? Let’s discuss taxation and whether my labor to the state is such.

You progs have a thousand masks for slavery. Every grievance imaginable.

It’s fun to watch you pull them all out at once.

Gays, woman, rascist, the poor, illegals, for the children, disabled, the poor, women again, and on and on and on….

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Ya big dummy. Romney was the GOPe choice that you love to slam.
Isn’t your computer time over by now?

22044 on February 25, 2014 at 8:51 PM

22044 on February 25, 2014 at 8:51 PM

TedCruz2016

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:52 PM

These trolls are pathetic. Later.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 25, 2014 at 8:55 PM

INC on February 25, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Thank you, sir. :)

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM

You’re welcome. It was a task that took more time than I anticipated, but it was encouraging. Gays want to win through judicial fiat, lawlessness (see Holder), and propaganda. Someone who did an analysis, I think at Heritage, said we’ve essentially had two branches of government writing law without constitutional authorization—obviously, in other matters as well.

FYI I’m a ma’am, wolly.

INC on February 25, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Arizona is the next Colorado/California.

The state will be dead to limited government Conservatives by the end of the decade if this continues.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/issue-analysis-arizona-bill-does-not-give-businesses-license-to-discriminate-against-gays-115093/

The fact is the Federal government and the Ruling class have publicly endorsed the same sex agenda and it is only a matter of time until the activists are demanding churches and houses of worship have their zoning restricted, state licenses to perform marriages, etc. revoked.

The Federal government and it’s Ruling classers (McCain/Flake/Mitt/Hillary/Christie/Biden/etc.) are at war with anything that stands in their way to impose THEIR will on our culture. THEY will be the ultimate deciders on everything we let them.
If you don’t think it’s already here, you’re not looking around at the evidence every single day.

Welcome to the United States of Sodomerica (like Sodom and Gommorah except with better WIFI coverage).

PappyD61 on February 25, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Oops..

Thank you Ma’am.

You made the point well. The party of “democracy” has no problem going to the courts if they lose a State reforendum. If they win, it’s all good. If we win it’s “judicial activism”.

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 9:17 PM

GOPe will use the young generation for a long time.

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM

The GOPe might. Because the Demonrats will too.

22044 on February 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Give him a break, he appears to be one of those ESL’s.

slickwillie2001 on February 25, 2014 at 9:24 PM

BOLD PREDICTION

If the GOPe survives, the 2020 GOPe Nominee will be for same sex marriage

Until then, Gay rights issue will be a huge wedge issue in the GOPe Party.

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 9:24 PM

wolly4321 on February 25, 2014 at 9:17 PM

No problem. :)

INC on February 25, 2014 at 9:33 PM

BOLD PREDICTION

If the GOPe survives, the 2020 GOPe Nominee will be for same sex marriage

Until then, Gay rights issue will be a huge wedge issue in the GOPe Party.

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 9:24 PM

BOLD PREDICTION

Freedom and liberty will continue to be eroded, but idiots like you will be lulled into a false sense of security because gheys can force people to bake a cake and get a license from the state for their yearly bennies.

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 9:57 PM

I’m still a troglodyte. I still can’t understand why we made a protected class of people on the basis of them having weird sex.

Why wasn’t THAT vetoed?

Cleombrotus on February 25, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Why is it again that people are put into special categories and put on a pedestal based upon their choice of sexual partners? How totally insane has our nation become?

As far as Romney, what a tool. I held my nose and voted for him, as well as McCain before him. That’s the last time though. I will never hold my nose to vote for a Christie, Jeb Bush, etc. If that’s the best we can come up with, I say let ‘er burn.

Paperclips on February 25, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Idiot liar of HA!!! Prove this, or get lost.

Schadenfreude on February 25, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Ooooooo, prove your god exists or get lost. I like this game.

Bandit13 on February 25, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Oh no! Apparently I’ve angered your god and he/she/it has lined out my text. Please…No hemorrhoids!

Bandit13 on February 25, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Oh no! Apparently I’ve angered your god and he/she/it has lined out my text. Please…No hemorrhoids!

Bandit13 on February 25, 2014 at 10:59 PM

How do you know Schade is a Christian? His post had absolutely nothing to do with “God” or Christianity.

Like someone said earlier– Obvious troll, being obvious.

Prove you have a brain or get lost..

melle1228 on February 25, 2014 at 11:02 PM

The more the GOPe and its crazy base talk against Gay Marriage and Gay Rights, the more they confirm that they are bigots and especially so in the eyes of today’s youth who are overwhelmingly in favor of Gay Marriage and Gay Rights.

GOPe will use the young generation for a long time.

Might_Is_Right on February 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Uh huh.

The young generation that is currently crashed in their parents’ basements without jobs.

Don’t worry. Piss off enough Christians — as you already have — and you will see lawfare against gay-sex bigot businesses, forcing them into bankruptcy via lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit.

Before we believed that we were being moral and respectable by not playing by the tactics of the left. But then we found out filth like you neither have morals or respect them.

northdallasthirty on February 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM

How exactly does giving businesses more freedom to choose their customers “hurt business”? McCain should just save a lot of time and switch parties. Romney is just being the populust RINO he is. It’s no wonder the base didn’t show up for these two losers.

Dollayo on February 26, 2014 at 1:34 AM

Don’t worry. Piss off enough Christians — as you already have — and you will see lawfare against gay-sex bigot businesses, forcing them into bankruptcy via lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit.

This sounds very entertaining but what “gay sex bigot businesses” are you talking about? I mean, American Airlines or Apple or is a group of Holy Rollers in a churchbus headed to The Gay Blade Bar to order Grasshoppers.

Marcus on February 26, 2014 at 5:11 AM

Jihad John taken’ it to the local Christians after a whopping success in Syria.

Hening on February 26, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Oh this is a religious freedom bill? Based on all the ‘news’ headlines I thought it was an ‘anti-gay’ bill.

Wigglesworth on February 26, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Bipartisan group of law professors warn Jan Brewer that SB 1062 is being egregiously misrepresented by critics – reiterates that the bill not is NOT discriminatory:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/25/Law-Profs-Send-Letter-To-Gov-Brewer-Warn-SB1062-Being-Egregiously-Misrepresented

Pork-Chop on February 26, 2014 at 9:53 AM

As an Arizonan I can tell you that with Apple hinting they may pull out of the manufacturing plant they are going to build in Mesa and the NFL threatening to pull the 2015 superbowl, the odds of Brewer not vetoing are less than zero.

Kataklysmic on February 25, 2014 at 6:49 PM

FREE MARKET PRINCIPLES ARE SOLVING ALL THE MORAL DILEMMAS! PRAISE BE TO MILTON FRIEDMAN!

brushingmyhair on February 25, 2014 at 8:16 PM

So you’re cool with the Koch brothers using their power to influence policy.

Good to know!

HumpBot Salvation on February 26, 2014 at 9:54 AM

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