Chris Matthews: Minimum wage is “a great way to screw the other side”

posted at 7:01 pm on February 22, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

Yes, I suppose that might be true. Democrats certainly picked this not-ObamaCare battle strategically, seeing as majority of Americans do like at least the idea of a minimum-wage hike on the federal level. It’s really just so good of the Democrats to mercilessly exploit that economic populism with more intellectually bankrupt lies about the ostensible benefits of mandating employers to pay all of their workers a certain arbitrary wage — instead of doing the harder thing, like Republicans, and campaigning to make sure that Americans don’t get screwed in the process. Via RCP:

They come walk in the door, we would like you to sign this and Peter King is waiting for them. Peter King, does he want to have to sign that? He doesn’t want to not sign it. Pat Meehan, Mike Fitzpatrick, Gerlach, these other guys, they’re going to say, ‘Wait a minute, if I don’t sign this, then they’ll be able to go out and announce — the Democrats — that I, representing a lot of working, middle class families that I’ve said no to minimum wage.’ I think it’s a great way to screw the other side into doing something you want them to do. And it’s a win-win, because if they don’t do it, you kill them in November.

 


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majority of Americans do like at least the idea of a minimum-wage hike on the federal level.

At what point does America wake up and say “Enough with the pain!”?

Does it ever happen?

Lanceman on February 22, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Given the daily readership of Hot Air probably equals the average number of people who watch “Tingles” on any given day …

… WHY does Hot Air constantly DOUBLE the moron’s audience?

TINGLES
-COTT!!!

PolAgnostic on February 22, 2014 at 7:06 PM

It’s kind of a lame move by Obama. I don’t think a minimum wage hike is going to bring the Democratic base out. They prefer handouts–obama phones, free housing, food, daycare, etc. You still have to work to get the minimum wage, and work is something Obama’s base doesn’t do a lot of.

Outlander on February 22, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Screw America…

Gotta love the Dems…

They know just what to do…

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:07 PM

… WHY does Hot Air constantly DOUBLE the moron’s audience?

PolAgnostic on February 22, 2014 at 7:06 PM

I tend to doubt it doubles. On the contrary, most people here refuse to click on PMSNBC or a Dog-eater clip or anything else vomit-inducing.
On the contrary, it’s usually enough to read the blurb.

Lanceman on February 22, 2014 at 7:08 PM

If Peter King lost his seat who would be crying beside King himself.

RickB on February 22, 2014 at 7:08 PM

…you KILL them in November.

Evidently Chrissy-poo has forgotten the directive from his Obamassiah to ‘tone down the rhetoric’.

GarandFan on February 22, 2014 at 7:08 PM

In fact, the Democrat’s minimum wage hike carves out exemptions for 19 different classes of employees. The wage hike doesn’t apply to handicapped workers, seniors, state fire fighters, movie ushers, newspaper deliverymen, summer camp workers, college students, etc.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/22/WV-Dems-Exempt-Staff-From-Minimum-Wage-Hike

Who’s gettin’ screwed?

davidk on February 22, 2014 at 7:09 PM

why doesn’t our side have an msnbc?

renalin on February 22, 2014 at 7:10 PM

You know what $10.10 isn’t a living wage for a family either. Why the arbitrary number? Shouldn’t we just tell employers they have to pay their employees whatever their employees think is a living wage.. I mean it is heartless to stop at 10 dollars… You damn corporatists Dems/

melle1228 on February 22, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Chris Matthews: Minimum wage is “a great way to screw the other side”

In other words, he doesn’t give a flip about the poor. Just scoring political points when he thinks he sees an opportunity.

steebo77 on February 22, 2014 at 7:15 PM

why doesn’t our side have an msnbc?

renalin on February 22, 2014 at 7:10 PM

What TV broadcaster would survive saying…

“You are you own destiny….”

Basically what Martin Luther King Jr. said…

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:15 PM

If Peter King lost his seat who would be crying beside King himself.

RickB on February 22, 2014 at 7:08 PM

A handful of lads and lasses in Belfast?

steebo77 on February 22, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Chris Matthews: Minimum wage is “a great way to screw the other side”

He thus considers the entire USA as his enemy.

itsnotaboutme on February 22, 2014 at 7:16 PM

You damn corporatists Dems/

In reality there is no sarc needed.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Chrissy is so lame, it’s all about the politics, not what could possibly be good for the country. For those who don’t work, Obama’s base, the mimimum wage hike means nothing. Fast food work is neither hard or worth 10 bucks an hour, automation is coming…

major dad on February 22, 2014 at 7:17 PM

why doesn’t our side have an msnbc?

renalin on February 22, 2014 at 7:10 PM

A tiny network that gets fewer viewers than a Sarah Palin rally?

A tiny network that is only seen by hardcore idiots who wouldn’t vote Republican if their lives depended on it?

Propaganda from the other side is still propaganda.

Lanceman on February 22, 2014 at 7:17 PM

He thus considers the entire USA as his enemy.

itsnotaboutme on February 22, 2014 at 7:16 PM

He sees this as a game….

He is well off..

I am not…

He has a cozy retirement..

I do not..

So F@ck him and his pathetic followers…..

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:18 PM

If you have to work for minimum wage you are almost in all cases already being paid more than you’re worth.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Outlander on February 22, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Yabbit the union-goon portion of the Obysmal base (see Trumka-inspired “folks”) use the minimum wage as a bargaining chip for even higher wages.

onlineanalyst on February 22, 2014 at 7:21 PM

why doesn’t our side have an msnbc?

renalin on February 22, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Hey, we got Bill O’Reilly

/s in a most emphatic

NOMOBO on February 22, 2014 at 7:22 PM

If you have to work for minimum wage you are almost in all cases already being paid more than you’re worth.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 7:19 PM

If you are making the new minimum wage…

Then you are good for it…

For the rest…..

Vote Democrat…

Maybe the next time around you will succeed…

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:23 PM

That’s all it’s about to Matthews – screwing the other side. The man’s mind is rotted with his perverse conception of politics.

rickv404 on February 22, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Chrissy doesn’t care about people who make minimum wage…he cares about screwing the GOP. He’s a complete moron, and nobody at MSNBC cares. And anyway, nowadays you could pay people currently making minimum wage 15-20 an hour and it still wouldn’t cover the cost of living because the cost of food and energy has gone up so much over the last few years people making 15-20 an hour are struggling too. And what do they get? Nada.

scalleywag on February 22, 2014 at 7:25 PM

That’s all it’s about to Matthews – screwing the other side. The man’s mind is rotted with his perverse conception of politics.

rickv404 on February 22, 2014 at 7:25 PM

The sh|thead never experienced a black eye or two…

Pampered piece of ……..,

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:27 PM

MeanWhile,……………………………………..

Obama calls out New Jersey Governor Christie in fight for minimum wage hike

By Roberta Rampton
WASHINGTON Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:24am EST
****************************************

(Reuters) – President Barack Obama on Friday singled out New Jersey’s embattled Republican Governor Chris Christie for criticism for balking at a push to raise the minimum wage, a move favored by most Americans.

During a meeting with top advisors and a group of 14 Democratic governors at the White House, Obama said Republican governors were out of touch with their constituents on the issue.

“For example, in New Jersey, even though the Republican governor opposed it, it passed by 60 percent,” he said, referring to Christie’s veto on a state wage hike that later became a ballot initiative approved by voters.
(More……………………….)
==================================

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/22/us-usa-wage-obama-idUSBREA1K1OZ20140222

canopfor on February 22, 2014 at 7:28 PM

It’s time to do away with the federal “minimum wage” all together – there is absolutely no reason for the federal government to set wages.

Pork-Chop on February 22, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Chris Matthews: Minimum wage is “a great way to screw the other side”
=====================================================================

Hmmmm,…..Tingles Trickle-Up Tingulation Theory!!

canopfor on February 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/22/us-usa-wage-obama-idUSBREA1K1OZ20140222

canopfor on February 22, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Chris is a slut…

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:30 PM

canopfor on February 22, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Chris is a slut…

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Electrongod:Lol,….so much for that Photo-Up hug Blow-Back!:)

canopfor on February 22, 2014 at 7:33 PM

I think it’s a great way to screw the other side

That’s a terrific foundation for a legislative agenda! And by that, I mean that the man is a buffoon without a clue.

xNavigator on February 22, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Hmmmm,…..Tingles Trickle-Up Tingulation Theory!!

canopfor on February 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM

My Google Map had a tingle….

I had to shut it down…..

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:33 PM

canopfor on February 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM

My Google Map had a tingle….

I had to shut it down…..

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Electrongod: UnCharted territories eh!:)

canopfor on February 22, 2014 at 7:34 PM

What a vile little man he is.

vityas on February 22, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Matthews once again proving that to liberals, Americans (especially anyone right of Howard Zinn), are not even human beings. People are nothing but political pawns to liberals, who only want one thing: To rule every aspect of life, masquerading as ‘Government that is for your own good’.

Good or bad, for individuals or the Country…completely irrelevant to leftists…they want Power; All of it; Always; at any cost.

Liberals are evil. period.

a5minmajor on February 22, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Electrongod:Lol,….so much for that Photo-Up hug Blow-Back!:)

canopfor on February 22, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Blow Back???

Chris wouldn’t waste it….

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Chrissy Tingles is the best argument for conservatism …

Whitey Ford on February 22, 2014 at 7:35 PM

… seeing as majority of Americans do like at least the idea of a minimum-wage hike on the federal level.

It’s a darn good thing that The Founding Fathers left us a Democracy/Mobocracy … oh, wait!

ShainS on February 22, 2014 at 7:37 PM

It’s a darn good thing that The Founding Fathers left us a Democracy/Mobocracy … oh, wait!

ShainS on February 22, 2014 at 7:37 PM

The Founders never thought about minimum wage….

‘Cause people back then..

knew how to negotiate…and new what they were worth…

Today…not so much…

We now rely on the Feds to tell us what we are worth…

Pathetic what this nation has become…

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:42 PM

To be used by Tingles & Co. That HAS to leave you feeling… unclean. I need to shower just thinking about it.

Kraken on February 22, 2014 at 7:44 PM

The Founders never thought about minimum wage….

‘Cause people back then..

knew how to negotiate…and new what they were worth…

Today…not so much…

We now rely on the Feds to tell us what we are worth…

Pathetic what this nation has become…

Electrongod on February 22, 2014 at 7:42 PM

Yep.

They also were extremely aware that any government powerful enough to institute a minimum wage (or give you anything you want) was powerful enough to institute something like a maximum wage (or take away everything you have) …

ShainS on February 22, 2014 at 7:50 PM

It’s kind of a lame move by Obama. I don’t think a minimum wage hike is going to bring the Democratic base out. … You still have to work to get the minimum wage…

Outlander on February 22, 2014 at 7:07 PM

LOL! Thanks, I needed that.

Cheers!

petefrt on February 22, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Our dimwitted liberal friends complain about $4.00 milk and claim conspiracies, but it’s really the market in action. You wanted that raise, but you now get to pay more for life’s necessities.

Sad part is, the rest of us who realize it and are not paid minimum wage get screwed because our employers won’t raise our pay when they they are covering all the unskilled labor wage increases. So we get none of the benefit and all of the expense of the wage “increase,”

Guess it’ll be time to embrace the suck again soon.

john1schn on February 22, 2014 at 7:55 PM

“Middle class.”

You keep using those words, I do not think they mean what you think they mean.

Whenever a lib says “middle class” they mean the “moocher class” which is their base.

RedNewEnglander on February 22, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Chris Matthews: Minimum wage is “a great way to screw the other side”

Piss off you pathetic, putrid, little puke.

Flora Duh on February 22, 2014 at 7:59 PM

Let’s have all the newsrooms in the NBC family start paying their interns first.

Or maybe Sears, Walmart or McDonald’s will discover this “intern” scam and make people intern for a couple of months before they can start earning the minimum wage. Or maybe they will need a “cashiering” certificate or license — a chance to develop “new schools”.

So much for paid on-the-job training!!

KenInIL on February 22, 2014 at 8:00 PM

In turn let’s have big government guarantee employers a “viable” ” profit. Okay??
/

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Chris Matthews

…how come….I want something bad…to happen to him?

KOOLAID2 on February 22, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Chrissy has been buying bad acid from Piers again….

viking01 on February 22, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Good ol’ clueless Chris.

sadatoni on February 22, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Nobody who has no skills and only university indoctrination as an excuse for an education is worth ten bucks an hour.

Greek Fire on February 22, 2014 at 8:19 PM

When the burger flipper loses his job because the franchise owner cannot afford to pay him $10.10 because along with ACA, that’s the only thing democrats know how to do is screw, just ask my sugar daddy, then he can beat Chris to death with his own pee stained leg.
You built that!

HillC Liver Spot on February 22, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Matthews gives it away. The pivot to minimum wage is a cynical political ploy. Nothing more. Least of all, minimum wage earners.

petefrt on February 22, 2014 at 8:22 PM

…I can’t believe they have an audience…I think everybody just wants to see freaks…. once in a while.

KOOLAID2 on February 22, 2014 at 8:29 PM

For a bunch of conservatives you guys do whine a lot. That is what my side does on a constant basis and boy I never knew to this extent how similar both sides can be. Life is hard…who knew; life is not fair…who knew; the other side cheats , lies and is changing America…who knew?

Well Alexis de Tocqueville knew way back when….“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”

Are you guys shocked at the truth?

Well here we are! Are you guys ready? If you ain’t, only blame yourself. Don’t blame me as I am ready…ah sort of! Well, you can blame me for my long boring posts and bad spelling, even with spell check.

No matter what, we are in for a heck of a ride. Just be prepared.
I’m 28 into the 30 pack…..just ignore me!

Ed, do I get my check now?

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM

melle1228 on February 22, 2014 at 7:14 PM

I actually had someone tell me that when an employee had a child, the employer should give them a raise to provide the funds to raise it. OF course, the employer cannot even ASK if you are married or have children.

Sigh. Always someone else to cover for your behavior.

OBQuiet on February 22, 2014 at 8:54 PM

I find it amazing that these people would put political victory over the well being of the people they purport to protect. They should know even before the CBO report that raising the minimum wage happens on the backs of other low wage earners.

ojfltx on February 22, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I think it’s a great way to screw the other side into doing something you want them to do.

Use this part of his blabbering in a commercial to underscore the true motives of the b@stards.

tru2tx on February 22, 2014 at 9:10 PM

melle1228 on February 22, 2014 at 7:14 PM

I actually had someone tell me that when an employee had a child, the employer should give them a raise to provide the funds to raise it. OF course, the employer cannot even ASK if you are married or have children.

Sigh. Always someone else to cover for your behavior.

OBQuiet on February 22, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Nah, you are looking at it wrong. We all want to win the lottery and employees always want more money. I hope you want more money from your employer…no matter the reason.

My employees know, if they want to make more money; make me more money. Being a Liberal, this might sound strange coming from me, but that’s the way the world works. Stop with “the employer cannot even ASK if you are married or have children”…that is a myth. Good grief, we spend time with our employees and know their lives.

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Use this part of his blabbering in a commercial to underscore the true motives of the b@stards.

tru2tx on February 22, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Yeah, it’s just complete and utter cynicism. The Republicans should just call the bluff and propose to raise the minimum wage to $100 an hour, seeing as how it doesn’t really have an adverse effect.

ddrintn on February 22, 2014 at 9:18 PM

You know what $10.10 isn’t a living wage for a family either. Why the arbitrary number? Shouldn’t we just tell employers they have to pay their employees whatever their employees think is a living wage.. I mean it is heartless to stop at 10 dollars… You damn corporatists Dems/

melle1228 on February 22, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Stupid backward rethuglicans! Because it’s ten cents more than the paltry ten dollars!!

C’mon.

/sarc if I needed it.

Axeman on February 22, 2014 at 9:27 PM

I mean it is heartless to stop at 10 dollars… You damn corporatists Dems/

melle1228 on February 22, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Stupid backward rethuglicans! Because it’s ten cents more than the paltry ten dollars!!

C’mon.

/sarc if I needed it.

Axeman on February 22, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Well, exactly. I mean, why not $20 an hour? $50? That’s how the response should be framed.

ddrintn on February 22, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Good grief, we spend time with our employees and know their lives.

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 9:14 PM

So you do think that they should be given a raise when they have a child …hmmm. If not why even make that comment??? Oh, in general my wife and I have almost always kept our private lives on the down low. It keeps things business like.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 9:35 PM

I hope you want more money from your employer…no matter the reason.

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Well, most non-libs are simply looking for just compensation for services or labor rendered as determined by the “market” value of that service or labor. It’s not “for any reason”, which is something-for-nothing territory. Postal employees getting middle-management wages for what is essentially manual labor is the reason the USPS is circling the drain. Ditto what has happened to Detroit.

ddrintn on February 22, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Stop with “the employer cannot even ASK if you are married or have children”…that is a myth.

So it’s legal?

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Funny we’re bitchin eh? Well when you effing libs cause more jobs lost and more welfare type spending…e.s.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Good grief, we spend time with our employees and know their lives.

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 9:14 PM

So you do think that they should be given a raise when they have a child …hmmm. If not why even make that comment??? Oh, in general my wife and I have almost always kept our private lives on the down low. It keeps things business like.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 9:35 PM

You did not read my post as that is not what I said. I help my employees on a personal basis, but business is business….have one child or ten; I pay the lowest wage I can to maximize my profits. I thought conservatives understood business?

Stop with the down low……if you worked for me and had a child or the wife had a medical issue; I would know about it as I would care and support you on a personal basis the best I could.

Geez, being a Liberal is tough around these parts. Like I told Libby, go start a business and give it a go. Can’t be on the down low when you take care of folks that earn you money. Give it a try and get back to me. Chuckle!

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 9:56 PM

So… does this means Chrissy finally qualifies for $10.10 an hour?

viking01 on February 22, 2014 at 9:59 PM

“President” Obama’s minimum-wage hike is a vitally important piece of executive branch legislation.

Without it, we on the left will have a much harder time advancing our plans for the redistribution of poverty.

Believe it or not, we leftists cherish poverty. Well, not for ourselves, but for the ordinary little people such as those who congregate at Hot Air.

As progressive-minded intellectual and moral giants, we feel it our burden to spread poverty to as many unwashed Americans as possible. This is why we are constantly romanticizing poverty in our arts and entertainments.

Mass poverty, you see, ensures that our favorite five-star restaurants and exclusive vacation spots are never crowded. Your lack of meaningful income ensures us we’ll never encounter any of you unless we happen to wander in by mistake to a McDonald’s or our Gulfstream G-5s are weather-diverted to Branson, Mo., enroute to Barbuda in the Caribbean.

So please join us in celebrating the minimum-wage hike. For now, it’s just for a relative few employees working for federal contractors. But don’t worry. You’re next in our sights.

FlameWarrior on February 22, 2014 at 10:02 PM

I hope you want more money from your employer…no matter the reason.

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Well, most non-libs are simply looking for just compensation for services or labor rendered as determined by the “market” value of that service or labor. It’s not “for any reason”, which is something-for-nothing territory. Postal employees getting middle-management wages for what is essentially manual labor is the reason the USPS is circling the drain. Ditto what has happened to Detroit.

ddrintn on February 22, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Darn, maybe I am more conservative than you…and I am a Liberal. Just compensation? Or maybe I just can’t explain things well. Sure I have a few employees that want “just compensation”, every business does. For the rest I demand the best..if not I ain’t making any money. To be honest, what is just compensation? I guess I am a stranger in a strange land as you guys are doing your best to find fault with a Liberal who works in the real world.

USPS….Detroit….what point does that have with my posts on this thread?

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Chuckle!

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Again it is illegal. I read your post but there was no reason to claim it was a myth to ask. BTW as an EMPLOYER no you don’t have any right to know why someone needs sick time or family leave. OF course, you know that but you break the law apparently.

Again, talk about not reading a post.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Sure I have a few employees that want “just compensation”,

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 10:13 PM

as determined by the “market” value of that service or labor

Funny what you leave out. You love to play word games.

To be honest, what is just compensation?

Not very honest or incapable of reading English.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 10:17 PM

HonestLib I will admit I like most of your posts but where you seem like most libs you’re pompous and great at putting words in people’s mouths.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 10:18 PM

it’s a great way to screw the other side into doing something you want them to do.

Matthews going all rapey there. It’s all about picking the right victims.

if they don’t do it, you kill them

Nuff said.

Kenosha Kid on February 22, 2014 at 10:26 PM

Not very honest or incapable of reading English.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Dude, you will never like what I say as a Liberal…so I am okay with that. You want to parse words and you will win as I ain’t that smart. But, I can tell you do not have the skills to run a business during these tough times. Heck, I struggled in 2012 and am happy to be where I am. Yap about legal this and such…yes you win as I guess I have no clue.

Not very honest you say…..I may be wrong, but I do tell the truth as I know it.

I was lucky to join this site a few weeks ago and thought it would be fun as I like conservatives, being married to one and all that….but not so much.

Some of you guys are just as nasty as the ones on my side that I…well time for another beer and play my new song I just learned “Windy and Warm”.

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 10:36 PM

I’d like to thank the Plantation Party (Democrats) for concentrating on an idea that won’t solve any real problems, just stir up the low information voters…

Khun Joe on February 22, 2014 at 10:44 PM

HonestLib I will admit I like most of your posts but where you seem like most libs you’re pompous and great at putting words in people’s mouths.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 22, 2014 at 10:18 PM

Don’t back track as I see that as weakness. You did say “Not very honest or incapable of reading English”. I’m not all that smart, but that was an insult. Yes, telling you that you could not run a business during these tough times…wern’t no compliment.

So, we can agree that all is well in the internet world and be civil or we can share a hot shower together!

I like your posts and keep them coming. I am now on beer 32 out of the 30 pack.

HonestLib on February 22, 2014 at 10:44 PM

You know what $10.10 isn’t a living wage for a family either. Why the arbitrary number? Shouldn’t we just tell employers they have to pay their employees whatever their employees think is a living wage.. I mean it is heartless to stop at 10 dollars… You damn corporatists Dems/
melle1228 on February 22, 2014 at 7:14 PM

To me, 10-10 is a preservative, altho the idiots in dc aren’t trying to preserve anything beyond the next election.

AH_C on February 22, 2014 at 11:56 PM

Everyone is getting their hours cut where I work and it has nothing at all to do with sales. Lots of unhappy low wage employees wondering how they will make up their lost wages. The Republicans better get out there and explain to the public why this is happening.

OxyCon on February 23, 2014 at 12:02 AM

Only 19% of those under 3x the poverty line will benefit, most of those who make minimum wage are from families making more than that – students, stay-at-home moms workig part time, retirees supplementing, etc. But if Democrats cared about the actual effects of their policies, they would offer quite different ones.

Yabbit the union-goon portion of the Obysmal base (see Trumka-inspired “folks”) use the minimum wage as a bargaining chip for even higher wages.

onlineanalyst on February 22, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Yes, and a good number of union contracts are also keyed to the minimum wage so those members automatically get a raise equal to any hike in the minimum. These are in fact the people who will benefit most from a higher minimum.

*****

But the dirty little secret is very few people make the minimum wage for long. Even the burger-flippers and floor-sweepers get a raise after a couple of months. And if you start at minimum wage and don’t earn a raise quickly, you probably are so worthless they will fire you anyway.

Adjoran on February 23, 2014 at 12:30 AM

And it’s a win-win, because if they don’t do it, you kill them in November.

The left is violent.

Ronnie on February 23, 2014 at 12:32 AM

Does this guy have any redeeming values whatsoever?

rplat on February 23, 2014 at 3:42 AM

Yo Tingles…..Low-skilled workers must compete for employers’ dollars with both skilled workers and capital. For example, if a skilled worker can do a job for $16 per hour that two unskilled workers can do for $7.25 per hour each, then it makes economic sense for the employer to go with the unskilled labor. Increase the minimum wage to $10 per hour and the unskilled workers are priced out of their jobs. This dynamic is precisely why labor unions are such big supporters of minimum wage laws. Even though none of their members earns the minimum wage, the law helps protect their members from having to compete with lower-skilled workers.

Employers also have the choice of whether to employ people or machines. For example, an employer can hire a receptionist or invest in an automated answering system. The next time you are screaming obscenities into the phone as you try to have a conversation with a computer, you know what to blame for your frustration.

There are numerous other examples of employers substituting capital for labor simply because the minimum wage has made low-skilled workers uncompetitive. For example, handcarts have replaced skycaps at airports. The main reason fast-food restaurants use paper plates and plastic utensils is to avoid having to hire dishwashers.

As a result, many low-skilled jobs that used to be the first rung on the employment ladder have been priced out of the market. Can you remember the last time an usher showed you to your seat in a dark movie theater? When was the last time someone other than the cashier not only bagged your groceries, but also loaded them into your car? By the way, it won’t be long before the cashiers themselves are priced out of the market, replaced by automated scanners, leaving you to bag your purchases with no help whatsoever.

The disappearance of these jobs has broader economic and societal consequences. First jobs are a means to improve skills so that low-skilled workers can offer greater productivity to current or future employers. As their skills grow, so does their ability to earn higher wages. However, remove the bottom rung from the employment ladder and many never have a chance to climb it.

So the next time you are pumping your own gas in the rain, do not just think about the teenager who could have been pumping it for you, think about the auto mechanic he could have become — had the minimum wage not denied him a job. Many auto mechanics used to learn their trade while working as pump jockeys. Between fill-ups, checking tire pressure, and washing windows, they would spend a lot of time helping — and learning from — the mechanics.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on February 23, 2014 at 4:17 AM

Raising minimum wages will recapitulate Obamacare in that the result will have the OPPOSITE effect that that which was intended. What will happen will be either fewer employees or employees making more money per hour but less money overall because they will be reduced from full-time to part-time employee status.

The tragedy of this will be both social and economic. Firstly are the mentally challenged which would include borderline schizophrenics, people suffering from Down Syndrome and other mental debilitating illnesses who simply cannot compete and who would be let go for economic reasons because they would price themselves out of the market with a dramatically raised minimum wage..Then there are teenagers, often willing to work, but still without the requisite skills to be valuable to employers. A totally inexperienced teenager making $10.00 an hour is a money loser for any boss. This means even more unemployed teens during the summer months. Anybody ever heard of ‘idle hands being the devil’s playthings’?

MaiDee on February 23, 2014 at 5:18 AM

Screw you Matthews, and your living wage blather.

TX-96 on February 23, 2014 at 7:17 AM

Nice tone of civility there tingles

cmsinaz on February 23, 2014 at 7:39 AM

Without a high minimum wage, business has a powerful incentive to flood the country with cheap labor. Flooding the labor market keeps the supply half of the supply/demand ratio artificially jacked up, keeping wages in the toilet.

When there is no net inflow of labor into the country, then there should be no minimum wage. The higher the net inflow of labor, the higher the minimum wage should be, even if only to discourage this kind of predatory behavior toward labor on the part of business.

fadetogray on February 23, 2014 at 8:06 AM

donabernathy on February 23, 2014 at 4:17 AM

In my world, the more value you bring to me (assuming I can profit off that value) the more money you will make. Period. I don’t pay based on how hard you work, how loyal you are to me, how many hours you put in, or how risky the job can be; the more wealth you can create for me the more you will make. It is my job to manage risk, provide a vision for the company, and to provide a workplace that is conducive to hiring the best folks to make me money. Well, to make my family money as I don’t need that much to survive. Sure my best employees tend to work hard, are loyal and honest, put in the hours, and great to be around……it also helps that they like what they are doing.

But not always. My most profitable employee, when he shows up, is a total screw up who only works the least he can. Just so happens he has a skill that right now is in high demand with a shortage of supply and he is my money maker. Clients love him and will pay my asking price. Dude is a pain to manage, disrupts the office, more ego than me…….yep give me a 100 more like him to be honest.
Take your example of the gas jockey. He is paid accordingly to the value he brings the company, not on anything else. Let’s say he is a BS artist and can sell ice to Eskimos (I hate that example). Yep, even though he has the exact same skill set when he was pumping gas, as a salesman he could make 7 figures a year. Sure, in my example, the matching of skill sets to the correct position is the difference, but what many employees misunderstand is that hard work is not the deciding factor of how much money they will make. The deciding factor is how much money the employee can make for the owners.

There is a well-known passage in Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations (book I, chapter 2) that runs thus:
“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.” Now Distributists will disagree and that is always a fun debate.

I am not Captain Bligh and take much interest in my employees, but that is not why there are my employees. My liberal cohorts actually believe I am in business to hire folks. I don’t even try to explain it to them anymore. BTW, I am not disagreeing with your post as all….just bored on a Sunday morning waiting for the kids to wake up and have our weekly family breakfast to talk family and to see how little I can tip the waitress!!

HonestLib on February 23, 2014 at 8:06 AM

Here’s my suggestion. The House should pass a bill giving the president unilateral authority to temporarily adjust the minimum wage up to $15-20 per hour. The ball is now in his court. If he goes to $10.10, they can hammer him and his party for not going higher. If he does go higher and the jobs disappear or inflation starts to rise, they can hammer him and his party for causing that.

John Deaux on February 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM

…nice way to screw the other side…except that this is people’s lives you’re screwing in this political process. There are some people who work these jobs because it’s all they can find right now and if amnesty happens even those jobs won’t be available. Some people never get too far above entry level jobs because they just can’t do jobs that require more skills, like reading a teleprompter, Chrissie.

Kissmygrits on February 23, 2014 at 9:23 AM

Kissmygrits on February 23, 2014 at 9:23 AM

You bring up a darn good point. Before President Obama (BPO) folks stayed in entry level jobs between six and nine months then moved up in wages.

I will do some research, bit I think you are implying that folks get stuck in jobs that pay minimum wage and do not move up. If that is the case that would be a large sea change from the norm and is a scary trend. My lowest paid employee costs me $30 per hour, thus I am ignorant about minimum wage jobs. Don’t get me wrong, I have had minimum wage jobs and one of my daughters currently has one while she is in college.

HonestLib on February 23, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Republicans should support a minimum wage increase. Not supporting it just feeds into the stereotype that Republicans don’t care about poor people.

SoulGlo on February 23, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Republicans should support a minimum wage increase. Not supporting it just feeds into the stereotype that Republicans don’t care about poor people.

SoulGlo on February 23, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Would that work as our side would just come up with a new issue ever election year. That would we a win/lose for your side at best. Just wondering.

HonestLib on February 23, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Well, Chris, any minimum wage hike is a great way to screw everyone. Your elitist democrats will be giving the heave-ho to the crowd you now control and whom you want to control more.

Eventually, innovation dies and even the elitist will pay – you all can’t survive in a nation that strips its people of freedom and hope. Look at the Soviet Union – heck, look everywhere on the planet. When did much innovation (not copying what the US creates) much was invented outside the US? Nations can copy others, they can threaten, their leaders can murder their “friends’ (Stalin and Lenin) but sooner or later, creativity dies. Elitists become a bullies, then die b/c they have removed incentive and upside of living.

Think Middle Ages – Chris. You may have escaped the downside of leftist dem policies for now, but not forever. The elitist crew will tighten their circle more and more. those of you who did not use your brains to look at the facts, eventually will be excluded – your usefulness will no longer be needed.

MN J on February 23, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Note to Chrissy: Look up “Pyrrhic victory”. It could be useful.

Rusty Nail on February 23, 2014 at 3:14 PM

’ I think it’s a great way to screw the other side into doing something you want them to do. And it’s a win-win, because if they don’t do it, you kill them in November.

And if they do pass it, you lock the poor into unemployment by pricing them out of the marketplace so they’ll vote Democrat forever because they can never get out of poverty.

Win-Win… either you screw the Republicans or the poor… either way Democrats win.

gekkobear on February 23, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Ah, yes, the joys of proposing a policy not because it will actually DO good FOR people, but as a bludgeon against your political enemies to win election.

And these are the people insistent that government can do big things for (little) people.

The Schaef on February 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Shouldn’t the FCC step in and fine MSNBC for showing a boob on TV?

Farnsworth on February 24, 2014 at 1:50 PM

never underestimate the stupidity of the American public

take responsibility on February 24, 2014 at 4:01 PM

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