UAW asks the NLRB to investigate “interference by politicians and outside special interest groups”

posted at 4:41 pm on February 21, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

Last Friday, the United Auto Workers’ push to finally gain a foothold with a foreign-owned assembly plant in the South went devastatingly awry when the Volkswagon workers at the intended Chattanooga plant voted against joining the ranks of Big Labor. I’ll refer you to Jazz’s thorough rundown for more on that dramatic turn of events, but you know the UAW was never going to graciously bow out of this one. The union has been steadily declining in membership and influence — UAW workers assembled 5.91 million of the 10.9 million cars and trucks made in the U.S. in 2013, down from 10.8 million of the 12.6 million in 1999, according to Bloomberg — and they saw this as their big chance to start reinvigorating their dominion in the changing auto market.

Ergo, via Reuters:

The United Auto Workers filed an appeal with the U.S. government on Friday, asking it to set aside the results of an election last week where workers at a Tennessee Volkswagen plant voted not to join the union.

Citing what it called “interference by politicians and outside special interest groups,” the union said the U.S. National Labor Relations Board would investigate the election and decide if there are grounds to scrap it and hold a new one.

Labor lawyers and academics said last week it would be difficult for the union to make a case for setting aside the election. They said labor law does not limit what can be said in a union election campaign by politicians, as long as they are stating their own views and not doing the bidding of management.

They do say denial is the first stage of grieving. Over to George Will:

Sixty years ago, some 35 percent of the U.S. workforce was unionized, almost entirely in the private sector. Today, 11.3 percent is unionized . About half (49.6 percent) of this minority are government workers whose union dues do much to elect their employers. UAW membership has plummeted as far and fast as Detroit has — from 1.5 million in 1979 to about 380,000 in 2012. In 2011, UAW President Bob King said, “If we don’t organize these transnationals, I don’t think there’s a long-term future for the UAW.” …

It is commonly, and carelessly, said that Washington bailed out “the” automobile industry. Actually, government bailed out two of the three companies in one of the two U.S. auto industries — the UAW-organized one. The other industry, located in the South and elsewhere — Americans making 30 percent of the vehicles Americans purchase — did not need rescuing because it does not have a UAW presence, which helped ruin General Motors, Chrysler and their headquarters city, Detroit.


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GO HOME, Union thugs!! We don’t need nor want you here in The South!!!!!

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Screw you UAW…

PatriotRider on February 21, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Some of us (not I) told you they wouldn’t take this lying down.

Lanceman on February 21, 2014 at 4:48 PM

One group of union thugs turn to another group of pro-union thugs in order to seek to reverse a legitimate vote that they lost.

Says it all about the UAW’s values…

Athos on February 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Seriously…??!! Does the UAW actually not see itself as an “outside interest group”?

anuts on February 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM

THIS:

anuts on February 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM

RealMc on February 21, 2014 at 4:51 PM

And with the NLRB being a union rubber stamp the outcome here is of course foregone…

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Go back to Detroit, carpetbagging unions.

Mini-14 on February 21, 2014 at 4:51 PM

So what are they going to do? Keep voting until they get a margin of 1 vote?

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Just knew that was coming. They are complaining about outside special interest groups are they? Not like they have ever done anything like that before. UAW is a virus, hard to kill. Wonder what the NLRB will do? Any bets they side with the UAW for some BS reason?

major dad on February 21, 2014 at 4:54 PM

I think the vote will be even more overwhelming against them next time…

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 4:55 PM

What’s the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

Hopefully this will expose the UAW even more to the workers around here for the corrupt machine that it is.

Spannerhead on February 21, 2014 at 4:55 PM

So what are they going to do? Keep voting until they get a margin of 1 vote?

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 4:53 PM

That’s how Gregoire and Franken got elected, more or less.

Lanceman on February 21, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Why yes lets have a do over. Maybe we go 2out of 3 or 3 out of five. It worked well in Wisconsin.
Next time the UAW gets crushed.

notwantedinN.Y.

jmtham156 on February 21, 2014 at 4:56 PM

“I didn’t get my way! Waaah!” – UAW
Stay in Detroit and finish the job you started there, goons.

common sensineer on February 21, 2014 at 4:56 PM

No means no.

HotAirian on February 21, 2014 at 4:56 PM

What about quaker churches?

Murphy9 on February 21, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Let me see if I can influence the workers in my small way; I buy non- union not union.

meci on February 21, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Those wrongheaded Tennessee hicks won’t give us what we want! Make them, mommy!

HillC Liver Spot on February 21, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Antithesis–crybaby thugs

This is why I drive a Honda.

jazzuscounty on February 21, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Effing sore losers!!!!!!

Present your case/policy, lose fair and square, then run to the government crying injustice. I’m looking at you too gay lobby.

antipc on February 21, 2014 at 5:03 PM

That’s how Gregoire and Franken got elected, more or less.

Lanceman on February 21, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Despite VW giving the UAW sole access inside the plant to make their case – it’s all VW’s fault. There weren’t enough dead on the employment rolls to allow the UAW to make up the plurality the UAW lacked.

Athos on February 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Obama waded into the discussion early on Friday, accusing Republican politicians of being more concerned about German shareholders than U.S. workers.

Then, if the NLRB sets aside the current vote, and a new vote allows the union in to organize, that vote must also be set aside because of the interference by Obama.

jaime on February 21, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Go ahead and investigate – IF it’s a fair and even investigation.
Keep in mind Emperor 0barky and other Dems tried to steer this for the union…..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/14/obama-volkswagen-uaw_n_4789553.html

dentarthurdent on February 21, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Disgusting, cry baby thugs.

GrannyDee on February 21, 2014 at 5:09 PM

When we fix a fight , we expect it to stay fixed. I mean , what is the world coming to??

rik on February 21, 2014 at 5:15 PM

The other industry, located in the South and elsewhere — Americans making 30 percent of the vehicles Americans purchase — did not need rescuing because it does not have a UAW presence, which helped ruin General Motors, Chrysler and their headquarters city, Detroit.

Most of the right-to-work auto plants in the South are run by Toyota, Honda, and Nissan–all Japanese companies who figured out that building cars for sale in the US is cheaper using American workers than using Japanese workers and shipping cars across the Pacific. It’s also cheaper to pay US workers to build cars NOW than to pay pensions of those who built cars in the 1970s, which is what the UAW demands.

The United Auto Workers filed an appeal with the U.S. government on Friday, asking it to set aside the results of an election last week where workers at a Tennessee Volkswagen plant voted not to join the union.

The UAW, which won the greatest sweetheart deal in American history when Obama took GM away from its shareholders and gave it to the UAW with taxpayer money, now wants to invalidate an election by free people working for a German company? Volkswagen workers in Tennessee said NO. That means No, not maybe.

UAW: Bwahahahaaaa!

Steve Z on February 21, 2014 at 5:15 PM

jaime on February 21, 2014 at 5:07 PM

You forget the double-standard that applies to all things progressive-fascist. The rules only apply to the opposition, not to the progressive fascists.

Athos on February 21, 2014 at 5:16 PM

You guys interested in some perspective?

Nah, probably not. And conservatives whine about how unions don’t contribute to Republican campaigns, as if they should finance their opposition.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Does anyone doubt the new Marxist NLRB will help the thugs?

PattyJ on February 21, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Given the recent history of Obama’s NLRB, a fair investigation would seem to be out of the question.

Bitter Clinger on February 21, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Seriously…??!! Does the UAW actually not see itself as an “outside interest group”?

anuts on February 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM

A gang of bused-in UAW thugs from Michigan claiming interference in a greedy-union election in Tennessee, for Tennessee workers in a Tennesee factory, by Tennessee politicians?

Irony dies.

slickwillie2001 on February 21, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Seriously…??!! Does the UAW actually not see itself as an “outside interest group”?

anuts on February 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM

There are no mirrors at UAW headquarters.

Bitter Clinger on February 21, 2014 at 5:20 PM

So what are they going to do? Keep voting until they get a margin of 1 vote?

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 4:53 PM

That’s how Gregoire and Franken got elected, more or less.

Lanceman on February 21, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Next time the greedy UAW will fly in some election workers from those huge Pennsylvania counties where not a single vote for Governor Romney was recorded.

slickwillie2001 on February 21, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Citing what it called “interference by politicians and outside special interest groups…”

Obama’s interference? There’s the theory that he lost it for the union by letting it leak how much he was in favor of it.

Drained Brain on February 21, 2014 at 5:23 PM

I’m married to a German, and knowing them as I do, I think that the company actually is in bed with the UAW and frankly were surprised that the vote went the way it did.

I’m sure that I read a story the other day that there was a “labor rep” from Germany on one of the local factory’s boards.

Germans are BIG supporters of unions and labor rights. Walmart, for some strange reason, tried to break into the market in Germany and they were eventually forced out because they wouldn’t bow to the labor rights people and their ridiculous demands.

Remember that VW allowed the UAW to mount a campaign targeted at the workers.

I’d be willing to bet that VW and the UAW are brainstorming behind the scenes to get the workers to vote the union in. This is just one tactic being flung at the wall.

Of course I could be wrong, but I don’t think that I am.

NavyMustang on February 21, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Do try and stay focused. Is the UAW an outside interest group or not?

anuts on February 21, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Is this where the second war between the states starts?

hip shot on February 21, 2014 at 5:26 PM

From over on the min wage thread, but more relevant here:

It is different. As I understand it, in Germany the unions function very different from here – the union understands the company must be successful for the benefit of everyone involved, so they aren’t willing to drive the company out of business. They actually act like they, and the employees, are in a partnership with the company.
In this country the unions don’t seem to give a dam about the company as long as they get what they want.
And based on this story, I’m not so sure the union bosses in Germany understand how different, and destructive, the US unions are.

dentarthurdent on February 21, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Exactly. The employee/employer relations councils are necessarily “unions” per se. They are councils. They don’t belong to a larger, regional or national or even international group of thugs like the UAW. This is why the company left the vote up to the employees.

I’ve worked in places that had an employee/employer relations council. They generally worked pretty decent, because everyone had skin in the game…there is no “boss” for the employees calling the shots.

mrteachersir on February 21, 2014 at 5:17 PM

dentarthurdent on February 21, 2014 at 5:26 PM

I was living in Montgomery (AL) when the Hyundai plant was being built. Aside from the fun of seeing Southern realtor ladies taking classes on Korean customs, one thing stood out to me. Hyundai built their workforce there.

Hyundai did it independent of the UAW which (at the time) would have penalized any Detroit-based member who went to work building cars in the South at a non-union plant. And I think (have not done the research) the UAW never made a legitimate attempt to expand beyond their stranglehold on the Big Three until the Big Three could no longer feed the beast. Their fortunes are now tied to the upper Midwest (MI, OH, IN, IL).

There is a new reality. In 2014 Michigan and Indiana are right-to-work states. Far too late did the UAW figure out that they couldn’t simply point at VW, Hyundai, Toyota and other cars built in the South and sneer about chumps earning less than the UAW wages paid out in Detroit, Dearborn, or Flint. Those Southern plants still have jobs. Not so much in Flint.

Happy Nomad on February 21, 2014 at 5:29 PM

The NLRB is going to investigate a US Senator! Really!?

We have a saying out here that the NLRB might want to ponder… “If you (insert your fav F-word here) with the bull, you get the horn.”

WestTexasBirdDog on February 21, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Do try and stay focused. Is the UAW an outside interest group or not?
anuts on February 21, 2014 at 5:25 PM

I get that’s the point you would prefer to discuss, but no, if it was a union vote, how is the union “outside”? That’s just nonsensical. So you’re unconcerned that Corker is a lying, union-busting turd?

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM

You guys interested in some perspective?

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Sure! When may we expect some?

questionmark on February 21, 2014 at 5:41 PM

You guys interested in some perspective from a REAL news source?

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Fixed.

You illustrate perfectly why O’bama lost the college graduate vote in 2012. Keep up the bad work!

F+

Del Dolemonte on February 21, 2014 at 5:43 PM

I get that’s the point you would prefer to discuss, but no, if it was a union vote, how is the union “outside”? That’s just nonsensical. So you’re unconcerned that Corker is a lying, union-busting turd?

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Why would a union-buster concern anyone who thinks Unionsare a parasitic relic that serve no purpose outside of Communism?

Spliff Menendez on February 21, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Links to the daily show?

Lol!

UAW membership is at historic lows for a reason. The Intl is just a money laundering arm of the corrupt and morally bankrupt democrat party. 90% of UAW organizing is in sectors that have nothing to do with automobiles. What a joke.

Murphy9 on February 21, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Despite VW giving the UAW sole access inside the plant to make their case – it’s all VW’s fault. There weren’t enough dead on the employment rolls to allow the UAW to make up the plurality the UAW lacked.

Athos on February 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM

This is Tennessee…Algore, himself, lost here…and that is the only reason why Floriduh was remotely important in 2000…

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 5:45 PM

I’d be willing to bet that VW and the UAW are brainstorming behind the scenes to get the workers to vote the union in. This is just one tactic being flung at the wall.

Of course I could be wrong, but I don’t think that I am.

NavyMustang on February 21, 2014 at 5:25 PM

They’ll be leaving Tennessee, then…enjoy those union dues and state income taxes!!! LOL

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 5:50 PM

I get that’s the point you would prefer to discuss, but no, if it was a union vote, how is the union “outside”? That’s just nonsensical. So you’re unconcerned that Corker is a lying, union-busting turd?

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM

If it was a union vote, then how can you and the UAW not accept the results and walk away?

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 5:54 PM

So you’re unconcerned that Corker is a lying, union-busting turd?

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Are you concerned that 0bama is a lying, bought and paid for union hack?

dentarthurdent on February 21, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM

HEY!!! Where’d you go?!?!?!?

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Why would a union-buster concern anyone who thinks Unionsare a parasitic relic that serve no purpose outside of Communism?
Spliff Menendez on February 21, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Until that attitude changes, the Republican party will always be considered the enemy of working people. Thank God their efforts to keep the poor crushed under a shitty minimum wage are starting to break down.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Stop ignoring me!!!

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 6:00 PM

I get that’s the point you would prefer to discuss, but no, if it was a union vote, how is the union “outside”? That’s just nonsensical. So you’re unconcerned that Corker is a lying, union-busting turd?

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM

It’s very simple, really. The vote was about having the union set up shop at this facility. The facility is already operational and employed. At this location, the UAW is not.

Therefore, the union is an outside interest group not part of this operation. This should not have to be explained.

anuts on February 21, 2014 at 6:01 PM

I get that’s the point you would prefer to discuss, but no, if it was a union vote, how is the union “outside”? That’s just nonsensical. So you’re unconcerned that Corker is a lying, union-busting turd?

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM

If it was a union vote, then how can you and the UAW not accept the results and walk away?

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 5:54 PM

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 6:02 PM

The United Auto Workers filed an appeal with the U.S. government on Friday, asking it to set aside the results of an election last week where workers at a Tennessee Volkswagen plant voted not to join the union.

Set aside an election? Whoa!! Al Gore is gonna be mad!!

You know what he always said, “every vote must count.”

(I think he tried to say it like Ronald Reagan, but it always came out more like Jimmy Carter,)

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 21, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM

If it was a union vote, then how can you and the UAW not accept the results and walk away?

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 5:54 PM

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 6:05 PM

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 21, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM

If it was a union vote, then how can you and the UAW not accept the results and walk away?

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Obviously, the libtard can’t answer a direct question….

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 6:07 PM

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 6:02 PM

I’ve not seen anything published on the special interest groups the UAW is referring to. I think Corker lying about VW’s intentions based on the outcome of the vote and misinforming the electorate is grounds enough.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM

I’ve not seen anything published on the special interest groups the UAW is referring to. I think Corker lying about VW’s intentions based on the outcome of the vote and misinforming the electorate is grounds enough.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM

The workers voted NO.

Why can’t you accept that result?

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 6:09 PM

And conservatives whine about how unions don’t contribute to Republican campaigns, as if they should finance their opposition.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Odd, but I don’t hear Conservatives “whining” about union donations.
Unions – being communist front organizations – will always support leftist (ie: socialist/communist/fascist) politicians. That would be the democrat party.
No one expects them to do anything else.

Solaratov on February 21, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Until that attitude changes, the Republican party will always be considered the enemy of working people. Thank God their efforts to keep the poor crushed under a shitty minimum wage are starting to break down.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM

What do working people and minimum wage have to do with Unions destroying their hosts?

You tried though.

Spliff Menendez on February 21, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Until that attitude changes, the Republican party will always be considered the enemy of working people. Thank God their efforts to keep the poor crushed under a shitty minimum wage are starting to break down.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Hmmm – those working people across the country, 93% of which in this country are NOT in unions? Those working people? The people who keep voting for right to work laws in their states, and then voluntarily quit the unions once they get the right to do so – those people?

And you’d rather crush the poor under an unaffordable minimum wage that causes more of them to be unemployed, right? And causes more products to become more expensive so the poor can’t buy as much, right?
So what percentage of the US population is actually still in the labor market now thanks to your compassionate liberal policies?
That’s how you libs take care of the poor – put them out of work and then give them other peoples’ money to live on. But of course you’re the ones who think welfare and unemployment actually help the economy, right Nanzi?

dentarthurdent on February 21, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Corker is a lying, union-busting turd?

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM

I wouldn’t know about the lying part…but I see absolutely nothing wrong with being a “union buster”.

Solaratov on February 21, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Waaaaah! We want another vote! And if we lose, we want ANOTHER vote! And another. And………….

GarandFan on February 21, 2014 at 6:20 PM

I’ve not seen anything published on the special interest groups the UAW is referring to. I think Corker lying about VW’s intentions based on the outcome of the vote and misinforming the electorate is grounds enough.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM

The workers voted NO.

Why can’t you accept that result?

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Funny how so many of you insist a question be answered, and when you get an answer you pretend it never happened.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Hey UAW:

You are an outside interest group that interferes in EVERY election for public office in favor of a narrow ideological agenda and a single political party.

Therefore, it is an exercise in farce that you complain about the same being done to you when you lose an election, especially when you had very systemic and logistic advantage on your side.

You lost. The workers have spoken.

Go be irrelevant somewhere else – try Detroit.

Good Lt on February 21, 2014 at 6:22 PM

I wouldn’t know about the lying part…but I see absolutely nothing wrong with being a “union buster”.

Solaratov on February 21, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Well, I haven’t seen too many politicians of any flavor who don’t lie any more – so I’ll take that as an unavoidable defect – and I’m ok with him as long as he’s a union buster….

dentarthurdent on February 21, 2014 at 6:22 PM

The next issue of solidarity is going to be explosive!

Murphy9 on February 21, 2014 at 6:24 PM

I’ve not seen anything published on the special interest groups the UAW is referring to. I think Corker lying about VW’s intentions based on the outcome of the vote and misinforming the electorate is grounds enough.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 6:08 PM

But you’re ok with 0bama wading in on the UAW side, and lying about their intentions, and the UAW calling workers with personal threats about how they should vote…
Those things are ok, right?

The workers interviewed publicly made their reasoning very clear – if the union came in, they would get LESS take home pay, and since VW treats them well anyway, they saw no need for giving their money to the union just so it could be used for Dem campaigns.
And they didn’t like getting threatened by the UAW.

dentarthurdent on February 21, 2014 at 6:27 PM

Until that attitude changes, the Republican party will always be considered the enemy of working people. Thank God their efforts to keep the poor crushed under a shitty minimum wage are starting to break down.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Right, instead we need more handouts to the poor that stop once they get a job. Only by stopping them from ever working can we keep them poor forever.

You evil Republicans don’t love the poor and want the to move out of poverty… meanies.

We LOVE the poor. We want more of them, and we want to keep them poor FOREVER!

Like the minimum wage jobs; the bottom rung of the ladder. We want them GONE! If we cut the bottom rungs OFF the ladder then people can never climb out of poverty. Which is the goal.

No? So how do you get your 2nd job that requires experience and skills when you can’t get a first job because your labor isn’t worth the minimum required to pay you?

Why that’s compassionate and caring I’ve never understood. Why is forcing the poor to stay poor a good thing?

gekkobear on February 21, 2014 at 6:28 PM

Funny how so many of you insist a question be answered, and when you get an answer you pretend it never happened.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 6:21 PM

You haven’t answered the question.

The workers voted NO.

Why can’t YOU and the UAW accept that and go away?

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 6:36 PM

I’m curious, Constantine, have you been properly educated on what constitutes an outside special interest group yet?

anuts on February 21, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Many UAW shops are now two or three tiered pay scales. The union has done such a bang up job that they will pay a 50+ year old sluggard $7-$11 more per hour than a new hire. And no more pension, no more double and triple time, no more time and a half for Sundays. The left of benefits lost by the UAW in the past decade is lengthy and damning. But listen to this reprobate here who uses media matter, mslsd, and the daily show as sources for information.

Murphy9 on February 21, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Does anyone doubt the new Marxist NLRB will help the thugs?

PattyJ on February 21, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Given the recent history of Obama’s NLRB, a fair investigation would seem to be out of the question.

Bitter Clinger on February 21, 2014 at 5:19 PM

You may recall that during the recent January SCOTUS hearings on Obama’s NLRB recess appointments, the justices weren’t too sympathetic with The Won. This, following a 2010 decision by the Court that the NLRB lacked the authority to make decisions for more than 2 years, because it lacked a quorum, which required the NLRB to go back through about 100 decisions it had made.

If SCOTUS rules against Obama’s latest NLRB appointees, whatever investigation or decisions they make concerning the UAW’s recent VW defeat in Tennessee prior to that ruling will be kaput.

de rigueur on February 21, 2014 at 7:28 PM

I have HAD to join a union. They suck. Who do they “protect”: The union staff. They are parasites. F them.

Dingbat63 on February 21, 2014 at 7:35 PM

I knew it was a matter of time before the UAW goes whining to Obama,NLRB,Holder, etc.The UAW has been damaged goods for quite some time and fortunately may never recover.Trumpka’s next WH visit he might want to take his shine box.

jeffinsjvca on February 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM

There has never been this good a chance for union penetration into a right-to-work state. You had a company that embraces unions. You had opposition effectively muted during the discussion. Everything was in their favor.

And yet the rank-and-file REJECTED the union.

Why?

It’s too simple for the whiners. The union didn’t REPRESENT THEM.

The union’s purpose in unionizing had NOTHING to do with the workers there. They had only one purpose, to use the workers there as a stepping stone into other auto plants in the South.

The VW workers could see this. They were happy with VW, they enjoy a good standard of living, they wish to help in the success of VW in America. What could the unions possibly do for them?

IMO, if they throw this election out, one of the conclusions that workers can come to is that their vote simply does not matter, that they are being coerced into a pre-ordained decision, and may reject them in numbers greater than before.

itsspideyman on February 21, 2014 at 8:30 PM

….JugEars…has a pen…and a phone!

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Just when you thought the fairness doctrine fight was over

Brock Robamney on February 21, 2014 at 9:40 PM

You guys interested in some perspective?

Nah, probably not. And conservatives whine about how unions don’t contribute to Republican campaigns, as if they should finance their opposition.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:18 PM

LOL–next you will be giving us “perspective” from BOR…

lovingmyUSA on February 21, 2014 at 11:30 PM

They’ll be leaving Tennessee, then…enjoy those union dues and state income taxes!!! LOL

ladyingray on February 21, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Actually, they may very well do that. I know a lot of folks who work for Daimler Benz in Germany and Daimler regretted their link up with Chrysler (I think) very much. They were relieved when the tie was cut. They considered we Americans disorganized and not “dedicated to the team.” It was not a happy pairing.

They have no problem cutting ties if they consider it going against their interests. As I mentioned in my original post, they dropped Walmart like a hot potato and never looked back. Walmart just wouldn’t knuckle under to their demands like 8 weeks of paid vacation a year etc. I still don’t know why Walmart ever thought they would survive with their business model in that kind of labor environment, but they must have seen something positive.

They can very easily do the same with the plant in TN.

Again, Germans are big on labor rights. That’s why I was not surprised that management was not resisting the UAW campaign at all. And there is a “labor rep” who is part of their management team. I don’t see the UAW giving up on this.

When you look at it, the vote was not overwhelmingly against unionization. The UAW goons will pull out all the stops to intimidate employees to accept them. If that ultimately means VW leaves, I see that VW would consider that an acceptable business decision.

NavyMustang on February 22, 2014 at 10:02 AM

So, Obama and other dems cheerleading and endorsing the unions, UAW unprecedented access to the plant and workers, all undone by some last minute comments from a Senator? Of course, that will be the way the corruptly union stacked NLRB will see it.

“Obama said everyone was in favor of the UAW
representing Volkswagen except for local politicians who “are more
concerned about German shareholders than American workers,”

Two lies in one statement. Obviously not everyone was in favor of the UAW, and VW is not owned by German shareholders, but shareholders all over the world, as they are represented on five exchanges. One inadvertent admission: According to Obama, voting for the union would be bad for VW, which would hurt shareholders.

GlobalTrvlr on February 22, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Until that attitude changes, the Republican party will always be considered the enemy of working people. Thank God their efforts to keep the poor crushed under a shitty minimum wage are starting to break down.

Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Isn’t it cute how our little boy repeats the classic economic screwup of the Leftist?

I know they don’t teach economics and math in high school or college much anymore, Constantine, so lemme edumacate you:

* The leftist believes that on a macro level, wealth creation is non-existent: that is, if someone is rich, it stands to reason to leftists like you that the rich person’s wealth *must* come at the expense of a poor person’s poverty.

* The leftist believes that on a micro level (individual businesses), wealth is unlimited and endless: that is, imposts by government to raise minimum wages will never have a negative effect on individual businesses.

Man, how can you guys be so freakin’ stupid???

On a macro level, wealth is created by mining and developing oil, gas, and mineral resources, and farming (including food, livestock, dairying, and lumbering). These are essential raw material inputs into growing an economy – which, of course, your side craps all over by way of crushing regulation, taxation, and the whole global warming tax crap.

Whereas on a micro level, an individual businessman’s pockets will have the same amount of cash if you raise wages arbitrarily or not – and if you raise wages, and the businessman cannot raise prices, that closed pot of payroll will pay fewer employees more money, while leaving more people unemployed.

It really isn’t that complicated.

Unless, of course, you believe in John Maynard Keynes and the whole central planning by smart people fairy tale.

Might I invite you to go live in Cuba or Venezuela, both of which have the central economic planning paradise you so desperately seek? But when you go, don’t forget to bring some toilet paper with you, because you won’t find any down there…

Wanderlust on February 22, 2014 at 1:23 PM

You guys interested in some perspective?
Nah, probably not. And conservatives whine about how unions don’t contribute to Republican campaigns, as if they should finance their opposition.
Constantine on February 21, 2014 at 5:18 PM

You do realize conservatives and republicans are 2 different things, right?

Brock Robamney on February 22, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I love the smell of desperation..It smells like victory!..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Keep counting until you get the result you want…the progressive playbook.

xNavigator on February 22, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Nothing surprising about this. It is the leftist playbook. Never accept defeat as the correct outcome while there remains any accusation of “unfairness” available. And the moment you get the result you want, declare the issue “settled”, and closed to future debate.

Unions have no place any longer in this nation. Any worker who needs a union daddy is hoping to disguise incompetence, and they are happy to spend other people’s money to keep doing so.

Freelancer on February 24, 2014 at 1:38 AM