FCC retreats a little more from editorial-bias study

posted at 8:41 am on February 21, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

After a few days of public outrage over its study on editorial choice in newsrooms, the FCC will “amend” the research project — but still plans to conduct it. FCC chair Tom Wheeler will remove the questions in the study relating to news philosophy and editorial judgment, the commission announced, which leaves the question of what exactly the FCC will end up studying:

Faced with an outcry, the Federal Communications Commission’s chairman said Thursday that he would amend the effort — intended to assess whether the news media were meeting the public’s “critical information needs” — by removing questions that critics had deemed invasive. …

FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler responded to the growing furor Thursday by ordering the removal of questions about news philosophy and editorial judgment.

Last week, in a letter about the study to Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.), chairman of the House committee that oversees the FCC, Wheeler said that the commission had “no intention of regulating political or other speech.”

If you read the study, though, it’s difficult to see what value it has. The entire point was “to identify and understand the critical information needs (CINs) of the American public (with special emphasis onvulnerable/disadvantaged populations).” That goes directly to news philosophy and editorial judgment, and without those questions, the study itself is pointless. That leads me to believe that the study will only remove the questions that explicitly mention those terms, and let the FCC just make assumptions based on the rest of the data.

Here are the questions asked in the study of owners/operators and editors. Try to figure out which questions will get removed.

Owners/operators:

• What is the news philosophy of the station?
• Who is your target audience?
• How do you define critical information that the community needs?
• How do you ensure the community gets this critical information?
• How much does community input influence news coverage decisions?
• What are the demographics of the news management staff (HR)?
• What are the demographics of the on air staff (HR)?
• What are the demographics of the news production staff (HR)?

Editors and mid-level managers:

• What is the news philosophy of the station?
• Who else in your market provides news?
• Who are your main competitors?
• How much news does your station (stations) air every day?
• Is the news produced in-house or is it provided by an outside source?
• Do you employ news people?
• How many reporters and editors do you employ?
• Do you have any reporters or editors assigned to topic “beats”? If so how many and what
are the beats?
• Who decides which stories are covered?
• How much influence do reporters and anchors have in deciding which stories to cover?
• How much does community input influence news coverage decisions?
• How do you define critical information that the community needs?
• How do you ensure the community gets this critical information?

The problem with this FCC study wasn’t just one or two questions. It’s that the FCC has no business involving itself in editorial judgment and news choices in the first place — especially at newspapers and Internet outlets. It’s an arrogation of jurisdiction, which would surely be followed by an arrogation of authority and power to address whatever “crises” in news reporting the study produces.

The only solution to this is ending it, not amending it.


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This was only a matter of time. The Fairness Doctrine was the predecessor……

And remember when they came for Joe the Plumber………

All according to plan.

RealMc on February 21, 2014 at 8:42 AM

Clear First Amendment violation. I certainly hope that the few remaining journalists in this country sue the cr@p out of the FCC.

NavyMustang on February 21, 2014 at 8:44 AM

And what does Rep Clyburn have to do with all this….??

Google is your friend. hint: his daughter, oblahblah appointee….

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

RealMc on February 21, 2014 at 8:45 AM

once Libs get ahold of an issue that they think they need, they never quit. Of course they will press forward and then lie about it.

Mord on February 21, 2014 at 8:46 AM

We need to make the FCC retreat… INTO THE OCEAN on this one…

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Anyone who actually goes out to conduct the interviews needs to be met with the business end of a shotgun.

This is a marxist state, where our betters determine what kind of health care plan we need and what our information needs should be. Heck even in Medieval times the nobility was content to leave the peasants alone most of the time. The modern Left isn’t.

Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed

rbj on February 21, 2014 at 8:47 AM

Kurtz was right about one thing. Under George Bush this would be front page. As a matter of fact, if the FCC under George Bush even hinted at something like this, he’d have been impeached.

The obama Administration under the kid gloves of the majority of the media believes it is allowed to do anything without news repercussions.

hawkdriver on February 21, 2014 at 8:47 AM

• What is the news philosophy of the station?

To destroy your philosophy with alacrity. Next question.

Akzed on February 21, 2014 at 8:52 AM

I think this is tangential to this post. Today is a special day for Mr. Obama. It is 166th anniversary of the publishing of Marx’s ‘Communist Manifesto’.

celtic warrior on February 21, 2014 at 8:53 AM

This is a marxist state, where our betters determine what kind of health care plan we need and what our information needs should be. Heck even in Medieval times the nobility was content to leave the peasants alone most of the time. The modern Left isn’t.

Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed

rbj on February 21, 2014 at 8:47 AM

Now Mooch is calling millennial Obamacare refuseniks “knuckleheads”.

And she may be right for once, 66% of them voted for the moron.

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 8:53 AM

The best part was how Mignon Clyburn was going to be in charge.

bofh on February 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM

This Stasi is ten times worse than the old.

It’s bad, folks.

Cc: Utah super-filter

wolly4321 on February 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Last week, in a letter about the study to Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.), chairman of the House committee that oversees the FCC, Wheeler said that the commission had “no intention of regulating political or other speech.”

Liar.

BigWyo on February 21, 2014 at 8:56 AM

The best part was how Mignon Clyburn was going to be in charge.

bofh on February 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM

And they are even going to send “monitors” into the newsrooms of PRINT PUBLICATIONS. The FCC has no authority whatsoever over those!

They aren’t going to give up on this, my prediction is they use the Census instead, and send this “questionnaire” out in one of those Census “YOUR RESPONSE IS REQUIRED BY LAW” (no it isn’t!) threatening envelopes.

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 8:57 AM

My take.

kingsjester on February 21, 2014 at 8:57 AM

This Stasi is ten times worse than the old.

It’s bad, folks.

Cc: Utah super-filter

wolly4321 on February 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM

The old Stasi didn’t have Google, armed Drones, and a WILLING accomplice in the Press on it’s side.

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 8:58 AM

This is obama doing his king Henry 2nd immitation again
where king henry said out loud “will someone not rid me of this medelsome priest” when reference Archbishop Thomas Beckett.

Of which the Bishop got knifed in a church by some “spontanous” supporters of the king

so obama complained about the tea party and the IRS “spontanously” attacked and censored them

now during the O’Reilly inteview, obama says its FOX NEWS fault for keeping bringing up the benghazi lies and abandonement by obama

So NOW the FCC “spontanously” has new regs, rules and wants to get INSIDE the news rooms for censorship and intimidation. To protect the cult of obama and his lies and incompetence
and how obamacare is ruining america

just in time for the nov 2014 elections CENSORSHIP . .

F000K U OBOAMA AND YOUR THVG TACTICS.
vote all dems OUT in nov 2014

sniffles1999 on February 21, 2014 at 9:00 AM

My take. kingsjester on February 21, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Excellent.

wolly4321 on February 21, 2014 at 9:03 AM

vulnerable/disadvantaged populations

Soon to be nearly all of us if they keep getting their way.

docflash on February 21, 2014 at 9:06 AM

The federal government SUCKS

Franklin100 on February 21, 2014 at 9:07 AM

The only appropriate use of this survey is as toilet paper.

kozmocostello on February 21, 2014 at 9:08 AM

OT: Commenting still seems slow/low even with the recent open reg…

OmahaConservative on February 21, 2014 at 9:10 AM

The Anchoress has a must read on this intrusion.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theanchoress/2014/02/20/over-fcc-plans-msm-finally-a-bit-curious-re-obama-admin/

Spider79 on February 21, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Everything will be perfect when Big Brother controls it all.

Bishop on February 21, 2014 at 9:10 AM

I say ignore them. If FCC regulators, or their stooges, show up, have them arrested for trespassing. After a while of having to bail them out, the Feds will get the hint.

Dusty on February 21, 2014 at 9:11 AM

The old Stasi didn’t have Google, armed Drones, and a WILLING accomplice in the Press on it’s side.

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Well look.. if they cross any more lines I’m sure Boehner will send an angry letter to Obama. So all is well. Nothing to fear.

JellyToast on February 21, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Of which the Bishop got knifed in a church by some “spontanous” supporters of the king

sniffles1999 on February 21, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Wait, wait…Bishop got knifed in a church? What’s Hot Air and its commenters gonna do about it? No one can attack our leader and get away it it!

Athanasius on February 21, 2014 at 9:11 AM

“When the public’s right to know is threatened, and when the rights of free speech and free press are at risk, all of the other liberties we hold dear are endangered.” ~ Christopher Dodd

Flora Duh on February 21, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Ya’ll getting wee wee’d up for nothing. Barack is a ‘patriot’, remember? He’ll protect our first amendment.

steveracer on February 21, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Well look.. if they cross any more lines I’m sure Boehner will send an angry letter to Obama. So all is well. Nothing to fear.

[JellyToast on February 21, 2014 at 9:11 AM]

Yeah. And this makes it especially obvious the FCC has more funding than they need.

Do you think Boehner, McConnell, or any of our intelligent leadership will catch the hint and fold it into their intelligent strategy? Not on your life.

Dusty on February 21, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Where are the trolls?

Here trollie trollie… here trollie…

The Left cannot survive without force. It’s best argument is “Because shut up!”

Akzed on February 21, 2014 at 9:18 AM

In my business we get asked these sorts of questions all the time. We get asked all the time about our sourcing from minority-owned Suppliers, our employee demographics and our philosophy of reviews and assessments of minority employees. We’ve even had customers send minority job applicants into our office in order to test our hiring processes. Now, suddenly, people are going batshit crazy when its news departments at local TV stations being asked these ridiculous questions and decrying the assault on the First amendment. What about freedom generally? Where were these news people when everyone else was being subjected to this sort of scrutiny? Our business should have the same level of freedom as the news business. As Congressional staffs. These sorts of questions should be asked of campaign staffs! If the President’s lily-white campaign had been subjected to these sorts of questions there might be a little more sympathy for the depredations business owners live with and through every day.

Go get ‘me FCC! Make them suffer.

MTF on February 21, 2014 at 9:20 AM

I think this is tangential to this post. Today is a special day for Mr. Obama. It is 166th anniversary of the publishing of Marx’s ‘Communist Manifesto’.

celtic warrior on February 21, 2014 at 8:53 AM

вперёд, товарищи!!!!!

Forward, Comrades!!!!!

пролетарии всех стран соединяются!!!!!

NavyMustang on February 21, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Ooops, Sorry mill. Allow me to modify and resubmit.

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 24m

Correct answer to all these FCC media survey questions: “f u c k you.” http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/21/fcc-retreats-a-little-more-from-editorial-bias-study/

Bmore on February 21, 2014 at 9:23 AM

And they are even going to send “monitors” into the newsrooms of PRINT PUBLICATIONS. The FCC has no authority whatsoever over those!

They aren’t going to give up on this, my prediction is they use the Census instead, and send this “questionnaire” out in one of those Census “YOUR RESPONSE IS REQUIRED BY LAW” (no it isn’t!) threatening envelopes.

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Actually they do, at least for newspapers that run mirror websites for their papers. And most do these days.

Johnnyreb on February 21, 2014 at 9:25 AM

if you want to keep your freedom of speech than you can keep your freedom of speach, no one is going to take it away. Trust us.

phatfawzi on February 21, 2014 at 9:26 AM

wolly4321 on February 21, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on February 21, 2014 at 9:28 AM

fascism

gwelf on February 21, 2014 at 9:29 AM

After a few days of public outrage over its study on editorial choice in newsrooms, the FCC will “amend” the research project

Hahahaa… WaPo put this story in its STYLE section. Priceless.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 9:31 AM

I say we end, not amend, the FCC.

rrpjr on February 21, 2014 at 9:31 AM

MTF on February 21, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Well said.

rrpjr on February 21, 2014 at 9:33 AM

This scheme is another form of Big Government Intimidation.

IRS
NSA
EPA
FBI
DOJ
NLRB
OSHA

yada yada yada

FCC

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 9:33 AM

This is a clear case of intimidation. Just like when Clinton and the left intimidated the banks into providing low income loans for the poor via the Community Reinvestment Act.

No you don’t have to participate and answer the questions, but just try and get your license renewed.

plutorocks on February 21, 2014 at 9:34 AM

fascism

gwelf on February 21, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Yep.

FACISM

For emphasis

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 9:34 AM

When I see this kind of a move in life I first wonder ………red herring, offensive feint, trail balloon, testing the defenses, sending out a message (slightly veiled threat) and so on. The White House knew the blow back would come and was already prepared with a “compromise” solution. Just like the HHS compromise surrounding the issue of all employers providing free contraceptives.

What I am thinking trying to think through is, what is the short-term and long-term strategery of this move from the FCC? What this White House lacks in real world experience, they make up in planning, cunning and tactics. You may not like their motives, but they are devious and relentless.

Me thinks it is to “chill” the editorial departments of all media and have them “voluntarily” comply to a…wink….wink industry standard of news reporting (new kind of fair and balanced). Sort of a call of the nightingale type move. That way no regulations, EOs, or enforcement needed. Coke-a-Cola did not join the band wagon to support AGW to alleviate water rights problems in India, they got the message about unhealthy sugar drinks so they “volunteered” their support. Just as an example.

Just some thoughts this morning as rust never sleeps.

HonestLib on February 21, 2014 at 9:34 AM

It’s Talk Show Radio the FCC is REALLY After

Republican lawmakers have urged the FCC to abandon the project, which we can take as proof positive that it never will.

Television executives should come out from hiding under their desks from government monitors in the newsroom. They’re already there. Look for the boss who’s sipping his double latte in the corner.

Fox News, reporting full bore on the FCC, shouldn’t worry. Even though they’ve got gutsy reporters like Megyn Kelly, Sean Hannity, Neil Cavuto, et al, holding up the left are James Carville, Bob Beckel, Juan Williams, Dennis Kucinich and Geraldo Rivera.

Rogue Karl Rove is roaming all over Fox Nation, taking out the conservative enemy for Boehner and the Boys.

Would Obama allow the FCC to put the muzzle on Fox so long as Bill O’Reilly, numero uno in cable television, is still kissing his booty?

Meanwhile, don’t get caught up and sidelined by the latest Marxist Machiavellian moves. It’s not the local radio and television networks they’re after.

It’s not the fluff that the Obama-driven FCC are after. It’s talk radio where ‘the enemy’ tunes in to the truth every day and night from the take-no-prisoners Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and a handful of courageous others.

Don’t get too many shudders from the government monitors of the FCC arriving any time soon at the television newsrooms. They’ve been there for the last five years.

Flora Duh on February 21, 2014 at 9:36 AM

Dang my bad…learning this new mac…scuse’

FASCISM

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 9:36 AM

This is a clear case of intimidation. Just like when Clinton and the left intimidated the banks into providing low income loans for the poor via the Community Reinvestment Act.

No you don’t have to participate and answer the questions, but just try and get your license renewed.

plutorocks on February 21, 2014 at 9:34 AM

I should have read the comments first as you beat me to the punch with less words. Oh well, my life story.

HonestLib on February 21, 2014 at 9:38 AM

DEFUND IT.

gracie on February 21, 2014 at 9:39 AM

This is the IRS effort all over again.

This needs to be stopped. Period.

marybel on February 21, 2014 at 9:46 AM

When I see this kind of a move in life I first wonder ………red herring, offensive feint, trail balloon, testing the defenses, sending out a message (slightly veiled threat) and so on. The White House knew the blow back would come and was already prepared with a “compromise” solution. Just like the HHS compromise surrounding the issue of all employers providing free contraceptives.

What I am thinking trying to think through is, what is the short-term and long-term strategery of this move from the FCC? What this White House lacks in real world experience, they make up in planning, cunning and tactics. You may not like their motives, but they are devious and relentless.

Me thinks it is to “chill” the editorial departments of all media and have them “voluntarily” comply to a…wink….wink industry standard of news reporting (new kind of fair and balanced). Sort of a call of the nightingale type move. That way no regulations, EOs, or enforcement needed. Coke-a-Cola did not join the band wagon to support AGW to alleviate water rights problems in India, they got the message about unhealthy sugar drinks so they “volunteered” their support. Just as an example.

Just some thoughts this morning as rust never sleeps.

HonestLib on February 21, 2014 at 9:34 AM

No you’re not paranoid.

It’s all about establishing precedent cause that’s how bureaucracies operate…and the progressive/liberal/statist fascists have a wet dream of an entrenched euro-style unimpeachable and largely lawless Bureaucracy that can never ever be dismantled and operates it’s procedural expansion and control regardless of which party has the majority.

We are also seeing this in the courts…Unelected judges with lifetime appointments legislating.

This is what we see in the impotent congressional hearings where nobody remembers breaking laws and nobody is responsible for their job and the decisions made by them and those that work for them because they don’t recall events etc…and are never fired.

It’s all about expansion and cementing the control.

Mark Levin calls it Soft Tyranny

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Republican lawmakers have urged the FCC to abandon the project,

Theerin lies the problem. They “urge.” That’s why the FCC can float these ideas, why the IRS can propose illegal laws, why the EPA can write its own regulations and why every other government agency can “go rogue” without the least fear of impunity:

a supine GOP. A GOP which does nothing but “urge.”

When Krauthammer said the House should defund any such study, he was dreaming out loud. But in fact, the House should outright defund the FCC, as well as defund the IRS until an investigation has been completed. But they won’t. And Obama knows they won’t. And so we slouch toward Oceania.

rrpjr on February 21, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Has one republican politian stepped forward in outrage over this? Rand Paul? Ted Cruz? Anybody? Unbelievable. Has tyranny ever walked in on cat’s feet into a free country so easily?

rrpjr on February 21, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Retreat, Hell. They’ll step back a bit ’til the initial breeze blows over, double down on the designed intrusiveness, then return with renewed efforts to control what the ‘people’ consume as news. Current score: 1) Education system, check, 2) Massively increased debt, check, 3) More taxation, check, 4) controlling the votes of more people via increased poverty/dependency, check, 5) Denigration of Christians/secularization of the country, check, 6) Using the courts to bring the LGBT agenda to preeminence/traditonal marriage to ‘alternative’ status, check, 7) defanging /making the military into a Socialist experiment, ongoing, 8) bludgeoning small businesses/capitalism with he Bureaucracy, check, 9) Destruction of the coal industry, check, 10) Destruction of the 10th Amendment, ongoing, 11) Destruction of the 2nd Amendment, ongoing, 12) Double-downing on Crony Capitalism, check, 13) Destruction of the healthcare system, check, 14) Taking control of the Media, next. I’m sure there’s much more, but my head just exploded. Off to the Soylent Green factory with me!

vnvet on February 21, 2014 at 9:56 AM

and a WILLING accomplice in the Press on it’s side.

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 8:58 AM

I think I would disagree on this point. The East German press was very … un-antagonistic to the government there.

GWB on February 21, 2014 at 9:57 AM

The Anchoress has a must read on this intrusion.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theanchoress/2014/02/20/over-fcc-plans-msm-finally-a-bit-curious-re-obama-admin/

Spider79 on February 21, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Bump.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Mark Levin calls it Soft Tyranny

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Jonah Goldberg called it Fascism with a smilie face. They’re both right.

GWB on February 21, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Just do a “Joe Biden” on ‘em.
When they show up, grab ‘em and lock ‘em in a closet.
III

Sgt Stryker on February 21, 2014 at 10:00 AM

Mark Levin calls it Soft Tyranny

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Jonah Goldberg called it Fascism with a smilie face. They’re both right.

GWB on February 21, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Indeed.

Preliminary phase before…

Kindly fall neatly into the pit we forced you to dig…

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 10:04 AM

this is why we NEED second amendment supporters in congress at state and federal levels. It protects the first, and the media needs to wake up and realize that.

dmacleo on February 21, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Has one republican politian stepped forward in outrage over this? Rand Paul? Ted Cruz? Anybody? Unbelievable. Has tyranny ever walked in on cat’s feet into a free country so easily?

rrpjr on February 21, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Not through so many doors at the same time…It’s hard to keep up isn’t it?

The American people are being bludgeoned by the effects without really understanding the cause and the Press abdicated it’s civil responsibility to hop in bed with their protectors.

Fascism 101

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Yep, Mignon Clyburn in charge of the study, so no political agenda…..

d1carter on February 21, 2014 at 10:11 AM

We need to make the FCC retreat… INTO THE OCEAN on this one…

ConstantineXI on February 21, 2014 at 8:46 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKJAqmi8RAM

If I were a station owner, I’d stop them at the door. Unless they are a field inspector looking to check the license, the public file, EAS activity, or the signal strength, we’ve got nothing to talk about.

CurtZHP on February 21, 2014 at 10:16 AM

I suggest the following letter be sent by every editorial board…

Dear FCC Commissioners,

Our editorial board has met and considered your request to probe our newsroom. We are not choosing to participate in this “survey” and have attached the following response as our complete answer to all of your questions:

First amendment…we recommend you read it!
Unwelcome probing of our editorial choices will not be complied with.
Choices about how we determine news content are not your business.
Knowledge of our communities “Critical Information Needs” is our business, not yours.

Obsequious compliance with your prying questions is not our style.
Freedom of the press is too serious an issue for us to allow you in our doors.
Free people need a free press to hold the government accountable.

Please don’t make us spell it out for you any clearer.

Sincerely,
Editorial Board

TomJefferson on February 21, 2014 at 10:24 AM

• What is the news philosophy of the station?

We report it.

• Who is your target audience?

The local populace.

• How do you define critical information that the community needs?

When the tornado warning goes off, we figure that is important.

• How do you ensure the community gets this critical information?

We go on the air and tell people to hide.

myiq2xu on February 21, 2014 at 10:33 AM

The ideology behind the FCC Newsroom Police project is more worrisome than the project itself.

The ‘progressives’ are pushing a Marcusian definition of tolerance… in schools, universities, popular culture and national politics. “Liberating tolerance” replaces “repressive tolerance”. Tolerance for the left, but not for the right. Tolerance for me but not for thee, if you’re right of center, in which case suppression of your views is mandated as noble. Tolerance is made a one-way street. Tolerance is turned up on its head. Anything can happen now.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 10:40 AM

I will applaud newsroom, even MSNBC, who has the guts to stand at the door and bar these thugs from entering.

Just looking for an honest man…

Bueller? Anyone?

PattyJ on February 21, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Anyone who doesn’t see exactly where this FCC gambit was headed is delusional or just plain stupid. “Under-served” groups are code words for minorities and other “oppressed” Democrat client classes, and the study would find that only FCC control would provide “fairness” to these vulnerable and oppressed groups who are not being served “fairly” by the evil unregulated market forces.

It is an absolutely transparent power-grab.

I agree with Greta van Susteren. The real outrage is that there are dangerous authoritarian morons in the FCC who thought they could get away with this prelude to silencing criticism of the regime.

novaculus on February 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM

I will applaud newsroom, even MSNBC, who has the guts to stand at the door and bar these thugs from entering.

Just looking for an honest man…

Bueller? Anyone?

PattyJ on February 21, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Get your tub ready…like Diogenes of Sinope…this could be a long wait.

“He believed that virtue was better revealed in action than in theory….He became notorious for his philosophical stunts such as carrying a lamp in the daytime, claiming to be looking for an honest man…

He embarrassed Plato, disputed his interpretation of Socrates and sabotaged his lectures (The infamous chicken stunt). Diogenes was also responsible for publicly mocking Alexander the Great.

After being captured by pirates and sold into slavery, Diogenes eventually settled in Corinth. There he passed his philosophy of Cynicism to Crates, who taught it to Zeno of Citium, who fashioned it into the school of Stoicism, one of the most enduring schools of Greek philosophy…”

A History Of Cynicism (1937) by Donald R Dudley (Free read at googlebooks)

: )

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Call your Senators and representatives… Both parties and be sure to call Rep Fred Upton who is the chairman of the committee that oversees the FCC. Rain holy hell in emails and phone calls on these people till they step up and actually do their jobs and STOP this!!
Rep Upton DC Phone: 202-225-3761

Caseoftheblues on February 21, 2014 at 11:06 AM

I agree with Greta van Susteren. The real outrage is that there are dangerous authoritarian morons in the FCC who thought they could get away with this prelude to silencing criticism of the regime.

novaculus on February 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Looks like Mignon Clyburn is White House pawn for pushing CIN Study through FCC without Commissioners’ vote.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/new-obama-initiative-tramples-first-amendment-protections/article/2544363

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Rep Upton DC Phone: 202-225-3761

Caseoftheblues on February 21, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Rain holy hell on social media too… Facebook, Twitter… for as long as it takes to get this outrage rolled back.

SIGN PETITION: Oppose Obama’s FCC Media Monitoring Police: http://is.gd/Mmi8od

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM

It is an absolutely transparent power-grab.

I agree with Greta van Susteren. The real outrage is that there are dangerous authoritarian morons in the FCC who thought they could get away with this prelude to silencing criticism of the regime.

novaculus on February 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Indeed…But does Greta go far enough?

Truth is this we know it is part of a pattern….We discuss it everyday…

All Bureaucracies are authoritarian and mostly unaccountable. They rule through their rules and the people have no representation…It’s just Tough Chit for them (I’m sure Nero said that in Latin)

All Statists (another word for Fascists another word for Tyrant) rely on entrenched Bureaucracies filled with appointees obliging their agendas.

Political ideology as defined by our pundits doesn’t apply to Statists since these people are entrenched in either party.

This is intimidation and part of the ongoing attack on the elements that continue to fight conservative causes.

We are watching the steady erosion of those institutions which used to be either neutral or on the side of at least economic conservatism as they abandon principle for easy cash and the illusion of influence. They are ably enabled by an influx of nouveau riche ignoramuses campaigning for their Utopian Vision…

We just haven’t seen it at this exhaustive level before…Nor at quite this advantage before.

The time of polite skirting of this is over and Greta et,al. are at the Rubicon wondering who just rode into town and why are the Hoi Polloi clamoring for bread & circuses & Reality TeeVee…

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Is there a solitary peep from the vaunted GOP leadership?

ultracon on February 21, 2014 at 11:30 AM

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Establishment GOP doesn’t seem to have noticed that what just rode into town is a different breed of cat, a cat more lethally dangerous than any cat in town before.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Rain holy hell on social media too… Facebook, Twitter… for as long as it takes to get this outrage rolled back.

SIGN PETITION: Oppose Obama’s FCC Media Monitoring Police: http://is.gd/Mmi8od

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM

Agree…It’s certainly worth a try.

As long as most americans believe this will shut down FOX and Conservative Talk Radio…They’re OK with it. They’ve been conditioned to believe that dissent is un-american.

The Hive Mind is so very…democratic or something…

They’ve already lived with the steady erosion of losing opposition press in the cities so that most cities and towns are one paper towns…and they’ve lived through the corruption of the Fascist NPR & Public TV cause they’re kids eat cheerios while they watch Sesame Street Propaganda.

Fascist Indoctrination…It’s what’s for breakfast

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Fascist Indoctrination…It’s what’s for breakfast

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:34 AM

In today’s progressivism, suppression of conservative views is mandated as noble… a la Marcuse’s “liberating tolerance”.

Anything can happen now.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 11:39 AM

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:25 AM

These are the inevitable consequences of a federal bureaucracy grown too big to control and a President who is utterly without scruples and intent on turning every wheel and lever of that bureaucracy to his political advantage, Chicago-style.

We must shrink the federal government and its bureaucracy.

We can’t elect any more Marxists in disguise.

novaculus on February 21, 2014 at 11:44 AM

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Establishment GOP doesn’t seem to have noticed that what just rode into town is a different breed of cat, a cat more lethally dangerous than any cat in town before.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Nope they didn’t.

They got caught playing the old game by the old rules…and they still haven’t recovered.

Same thing happened in WWI.

Trench Warfare and Chemical Weapons do not a gentleman’s war make…if ya get my drift…

We’re in a similar transitional period…a generational crisis as some philosopher’s call it…

It happens periodically. Most folks didn’t think it would happen here but I remember old school professors warning ua about it when I was in college in the 80′s…I didn’t get it then cause I was young and stupid like most of my peers…

Most old school typeson both sides recognize it…and actions speak louder than words.

It’s why an old school liberal like Pat Caddell sounds his horn on FOX because it’s the only public outlet venue he can get.

Gov. Perry nailed it in the last primary cycle by speaking the obvious…which good critics/authors etc. have been saying for a while…

“This is not a Republican vs. Democrat battle…It’s Liberal (Progressives and Statists) vs. Conservative (Constitutional 10 th Amendment Types)”

And it’s not just happening here…

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:46 AM

They retreated. Instead of totally violating first amendment rights, they will totally violate our first amendment rights. Maybe Senator Wackobird can sponsor some legislation to defend our first amendment rights. He was great on McCain Feingold

Brock Robamney on February 21, 2014 at 11:46 AM

In today’s progressivism, suppression of conservative views is mandated as noble… a la Marcuse’s “liberating tolerance”.

Anything can happen now.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Typically a Puscht of some sort.

Yep!

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Establishment GOP doesn’t seem to have noticed that what just rode into town is a different breed of cat, a cat more lethally dangerous than any cat in town before.
petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Oh they know. We have an Oligarchy in Washington. It’s the neostatists vs the people. There is no possible way that the Geriatric Old Progressives do not know what the score is. Obama has been in office for 5 years now. They are the rulers and we are the subjects. We get our rights from the Government now. We no longer have inalienable rights

Brock Robamney on February 21, 2014 at 11:52 AM

When you call and they say it’s just a study …. Because they will….if it’s a study and nothing is going to come of it… It’s a waste of millions of taxpayer dollars or it’s a study that is a prelude to stepping into news organizations to “fix” and control things. It has to be one or the other…so either way…. STOP it unless Senator/Representative(fill in name) believes in wasting tax dollars or the government controlling the press….

Caseoftheblues on February 21, 2014 at 11:54 AM

These are the inevitable consequences of a federal bureaucracy grown too big to control and a President who is utterly without scruples and intent on turning every wheel and lever of that bureaucracy to his political advantage, Chicago-style.

We must shrink the federal government and its bureaucracy.

We can’t elect any more Marxists in disguise.

novaculus on February 21, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Yeah…But the Politician must have the courage to follow through and the plan to enact the shrinkage.

Cause those that hold the Bureaucratic power will fight to keep it.

He better have a teflon skin coupled with a thorough understanding of whom he’s dealing with.

One of the things that made Reagan so formidable was that he spent his formative years as a democrat…so when he finally left in disgust he had a thorough understanding of how his former party had been hijacked and who he was fighting.

He still made some mistakes (Like Amnesty) but overall he was focused and relentless…And he understood how to wield executive power properly.

We as an electorate must look to the conservative governors for experience and solutions If we are to right this ship.

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Call your Senators and representatives… Both parties and be sure to call Rep Fred Upton who is the chairman of the committee that oversees the FCC. Rain holy hell in emails and phone calls on these people till they step up and actually do their jobs and STOP this!!
Rep Upton DC Phone: 202-225-3761
Caseoftheblues on February 21, 2014 at 11:06 AM

You’ll have better luck with JLinds. The 2 same sex senators from Arizona and South Carolina

Brock Robamney on February 21, 2014 at 11:57 AM

These are the inevitable consequences of a federal bureaucracy grown too big to control and a President who is utterly without scruples and intent on turning every wheel and lever of that bureaucracy to his political advantage, Chicago-style.

We must shrink the federal government and its bureaucracy.

We can’t elect any more Marxists in disguise.

novaculus on February 21, 2014 at 11:44 AM

We must disable the agencies in the Executive.

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Oh they know. We have an Oligarchy in Washington. It’s the neostatists vs the people. There is no possible way that the Geriatric Old Progressives do not know what the score is. Obama has been in office for 5 years now. They are the rulers and we are the subjects. We get our rights from the Government now. We no longer have inalienable rights

Brock Robamney on February 21, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Lined their pockets…and some are now retiring

Boehner bought a condo in Florida…lots of good Golf in Florida.

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 12:01 PM

They retreated. Instead of totally violating first amendment rights, they will totally violate our first amendment rights. Maybe Senator Wackobird can sponsor some legislation to defend our first amendment rights. He was great on McCain Feingold

Brock Robamney on February 21, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Most in Congress laid down as their constitutional function and authority was rode over by the Fascist Steamroller.

We are now left with this weird spectacle of impotent congressional hearings…the distorted non-coverage by the media elite…the real coverage/discussions in partisan forums as we become the man walking the streets wearing a sign that says “The End is Near” while the public at large is baffled and acting out their Incomprehensible Demoralizaton.

A Demoralized Nation as History shows…Is a dangerous nation.

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Just wait until Obama finds out. He’ll be very angry and get to the bottom of this.

gwelf on February 21, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Same thing happened in WWI.

Trench Warfare and Chemical Weapons do not a gentleman’s war make…if ya get my drift…

We’re in a similar transitional period…a generational crisis as some philosopher’s call it…

“This is not a Republican vs. Democrat battle…It’s Liberal (Progressives and Statists) vs. Conservative (Constitutional 10 th Amendment Types)”

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Kudos. With this and other posts, you are on this situation like white on rice.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 12:24 PM

The study on the public’s “critical information needs” was just a ruse, so that the FCC could target places that they want to hand over broadcast licenses to favored groups, and they needed to justify it with a study. They are too stupid to know that the things they were asking violate our ideas on first amendment, because they never think about first amendment. They want to prove that the stations are not serving Underserved populations and hand the license over cheaply to an Underserved population owner instead of letting market forces work. When you serve the majority for ratings and ad revenue, your programing is not obscure underserved population interests, just like it is rarely conservative ideals.

Fleuries on February 21, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Fleuries on February 21, 2014 at 12:25 PM

This WH’s main interest is regulating media content. Regulating ownership is one means of doing that. But it’s the content they’re mainly after. Minority ownership is the righteous banner under which they fight.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 12:35 PM

The study on the public’s “critical information needs” was just a ruse, so that the FCC could target places that they want to hand over broadcast licenses to favored groups, and they needed to justify it with a study. They are too stupid to know that the things they were asking violate our ideas on first amendment, because they never think about first amendment. They want to prove that the stations are not serving Underserved populations and hand the license over cheaply to an Underserved population owner instead of letting market forces work. When you serve the majority for ratings and ad revenue, your programing is not obscure underserved population interests, just like it is rarely conservative ideals.

Fleuries on February 21, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Yep!

Kinda like that fair and safe internet scheme…or something…They’re doing it for the children remember…

It’s all about who controls the flow of information and the content of information at every level…starting in kindergarten.

An ignorant populace is an easily manipulated populace.

A Populace dependent on a Tyrant for basic sustenance…is an enslaved populace discarded after performing their utilitarian function for the benefit of the Leviathan Tyrant.

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 12:35 PM

El Rushbo: “Diversity monitoring” of media is already being done in UK.

But UK has no 1A.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Kudos. With this and other posts, you are on this situation like white on rice.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 12:24 PM

We are both as are many here I suspect…Students of History.

These forums act as public record of discussion and dissent…until they disappear?

But somebody…somewhere always remembers…because God places the memory and yearning in each and every human soul.

Someday the enslaved of North Korea will free themselves because of what God placed in their very souls.

We saw this in the Soviet Union…and are seeing variations in China…

No Pagan Tyrant (And that’s the oldest term for the false idols) can outlast God.

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 12:43 PM

That is what the plea to Deliver Us from Temptation is all about…in the smaller and the bigger picture…imho

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 12:46 PM

This WH’s main interest is regulating media content. Regulating ownership is one means of doing that. But it’s the content they’re mainly after. Minority ownership is the righteous banner under which they fight.

petefrt on February 21, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Yep!

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 12:47 PM

“… Wheeler said that the commission had “no intention of regulating political or other speech.”

Really…?

“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your Doctor, you can keep your Doctor. Period!”

Just in time for an election year…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on February 21, 2014 at 12:51 PM

“… Wheeler said that the commission had “no intention of regulating political or other speech.”

Really…?

“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your Doctor, you can keep your Doctor. Period!”

Just in time for an election year…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on February 21, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Yeah…Like the Black Panther Security at the voting polls…

workingclass artist on February 21, 2014 at 12:55 PM

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