Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on February 20, 2014 by Allahpundit

President Obama is being pressed to act quickly on the crisis in Ukraine amid accusations that his administration is straddling the fence, as dozens more people were killed Thursday in clashes on the streets of Kiev.

Amid reports that possible sanctions may be on the fast track, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said Thursday that “a range of options is being actively considered at the White House.”

But so far, the public face of the administration’s policy toward Ukraine has consisted mostly of phone calls with foreign leaders and public statements…

In a troubling sign, Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby said Thursday that the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense is refusing to take the phone calls of Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, who repeatedly has tried to reach out to his counterpart since early last week.

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Mr. Lavrov’s remarks came the day after the United States announced that it would impose a travel ban on 20 civilian and political leaders in Ukraine who officials said were directly responsible for ordering a crackdown in Kiev that began on Tuesday after protesters broke through police lines.

The State Department did not identify those sanctioned, but Obama administration officials indicated that they had not targeted Ukraine’s military command or apparently Mr. Yanukovych himself, leaving room for a compromise. Administration officials also have been vague about the possibility of additional sanctions.

Josh Earnest, the White House principal deputy press secretary, said Thursday that there were “a range of tools that could be used by the administration to hold accountable officials.” Mr. Earnest also said “it is fair to say that a range of options is being actively considered.”

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The Obama administration is putting together a package of sanctions the president could put in place as soon as tonight, more likely tomorrow, ABC News has learned.

These sanctions would directly target individuals in the Ukrainian government believed to be responsible for the violence unfolding in the Ukrainian capital of Kiev. The sanctions would include freezing assets and measures designed to cut these individuals off from the international banking system. The measures would be similar to those imposed over the past several years on individuals in the Iranian government.

Unlike the visa/travel restrictions imposed Wednesday on 20 unnamed members of the Ukrainian government, the administration will name names, White House officials said.

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A spokesman for President Obama couldn’t identify a U.S. national security interest in Ukraine, emphasizing an American desire to support human rights rather than a “old Cold War” rivalry with Russia.

“This is something that we’re monitoring,” White House deputy press secretary Josh Earnest said when asked if the Kiev protests impact U.S. national security. “This idea of ‘spheres of influence’ is a pretty outdated notion,” he added when pressed about Russia’s interest in Ukraine.

“Our principal concern here does not lie in whether or not [Russian President] Vladimir Putin stands to gain or lose from the ongoing conflict in Ukraine,” he reiterated later in the press briefing…

Earnest rejected any Cold War-era categories. “It is not necessarily related to any effort by former Cold War adversaries to try to get a foothold in one country or another,” he said. Instead, Earnest explained U.S. interest by saying that “at least some of the human rights, basic human rights that we hold so dear in this country are not being respected.”

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Arizona Sen. John McCain repeated calls for targeted sanctions on Ukraine and slammed the administration for its handling of the U.S.’s relationship with Russia.

“This is the most naive president in history,” McCain said Thursday on Phoenix radio station KFYI of President Barack Obama, citing both his “flexibility” comments to then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev as well as the “reset button” on Russian relations…

“This thing could easily spiral out of control into a major international crisis. The first thing we need to do is impose sanctions on those people who are in leadership positions,” McCain said…

“Watch Putin after the Olympics are over. He may try — and I emphasize may — try to have some partition of … Ukraine,” McCain said. “He is committed to keeping Ukraine as part of Russia.”

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I have yet to interview Putin on the matter, but years of observing the man and the system he’s built all point to one thing: he is watching Ukraine very closely and shaking his head. Instead of swiftly clearing the protests before they had a chance to gather momentum and not allowing them into the political system, Yanukovich dithered, thereby weakening himself…

Last time Kiev had protests, Putin put the finishing touch on killing democracy in Russia. This time, he is already busy tightening the screws. He is cracking down on DozhdTV, Russia’s last independent television station. He has ordered a propagandist makeover of RIA Novosti, a state-owned but fairly modern news agency, installing a fire-breathing ideologue to run it (this guy, if you’re curious). Today, Ekho Moskvy, Moscow’s largest radio station that is often sympathetic to the opposition, got a new general manager, a woman with a decade-long resume of faithfully serving the state propaganda machine. State TV is broadcasting Goebbels-like “documentaries” about the opposition called “The Biochemistry of Betrayal.” People who don’t agree with Putin have found their sources of income choked off; many are fleeing the country.

Putin is tightening the screws, because this is what stability looks like and that, to Putin, by all accounts a man deeply traumatized by the chaotic, painful collapse of the Soviet Union, is worth any price. And the more unstable Ukraine gets, the tighter he’ll turn them. Just you wait.

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Once the country is at the Kremlin’s mercy, Mr Putin can extort a heavy price. He is known to disparage the very notion of Ukraine’s statehood, in public and in private. He could demand that it join a Russian-led security alliance. Russia’s military integration with Belarus is already proving a headache for Nato, which is struggling to work out how it can defend Europe’s north-eastern flank with its slender remaining resources…

The danger now is that, in despair, the West seeks to broker a solution to the Ukrainian problem through a deal with Russia. That will infuriate and disillusion the protesters, stoking extremism and violence. It is hard to imagine a more dangerous message to send to the Kremlin: create chaos in your former empire and the West will then let you dictate the terms of settlement…

It is to our lasting shame that we have been accomplices in this. We should unleash our money-laundering and anti-bribery laws. We should freeze assets and impose visa bans on those involved in looting and repression on our doorstep.

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Russia is ruled by a little, strutting Mussolini — the Duce, like Putin, enjoyed being photographed with his chest bare and his biceps flexed. Putin is unreconciled to the “tragedy,” as he calls it, of the Soviet Union’s demise. It was within the Soviet apparatus of oppression that he honed the skills by which he governs — censorship, corruption, brutality, oppression, assassination…

Putin’s contempt for Barack Obama is palpable. Russia’s robust support of Bashar al-Assad is one reason Assad has, according to the Obama administration’s director of intelligence, “strengthened” his position in the period since Obama said Assad should “step aside.” Russia has been less than helpful regarding U.S. attempts to halt Iran’s nuclear weapons program. Where, exactly, has Obama’s much-advertised but never defined “reset” of relations with Russia been fruitful?…

The Soviet Union — “one of modern history’s pivotal experiments,” in the weasel words of NBC’s Olympics coverage — existed for seven miserable decades. Ukraine’s agony is a reverberation of the protracted process of cleaning up after the “experiment.” So, this is perhaps the final episode of the Cold War. Does America’s unusually loquacious 44th president remember how the words of the 40th — “Tear down this wall!” — helped to win it?

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So Obama has no intention of using the “other option,” which leaves us with …

“Just words … just phrases.”

Oh-Kay!

Alien on February 20, 2014 at 11:20 PM

I believe if push came to shove that we as a nation would engage and we would see people rally around our president. But that time is not now. Diplomacy first.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:24 PM

This song was so awful it’s art.

MacAurthur’s Park

ConstantineXI on February 20, 2014 at 11:25 PM

I believe tho, it is somthing that in the near future, will be unavoidable, either for our own freedom, or as a feigned freedom for someone else…

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:20 PM

There can be no middle ground between the good guys and the bad guys. Only war will bring peace.

crankyoldlady on February 20, 2014 at 11:25 PM

PolAgnostic on February 20, 2014 at 11:09 PM

You forgot to include watching figure skating ;-)

Sounds like you have the bases covered, Pol. I was stationed at Sheppard AFB in Wichita Falls for seven months–technical training. We used to watch funnel clouds form in the afternoons from our CQ, across the street from the runways. No fun when the tornado sirens went off.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Winwood

KCB on February 20, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Sorry, meant this one. On vinyl.

KCB on February 20, 2014 at 11:25 PM

maybe I’m missing something. I’m not defending Putin. But how is he different from Lincoln?

Rose on February 20, 2014 at 11:07 PM

….hmmm – I see I’ll have to keep this Simple for you:

Ahhhh – Putin is different because he is a Racist, Demagogue and Dictator who as head of the KGB once slaughtered Hundreds of Thousands of Soviet Disabled Vets by sequestering them on an island in The Volga River that they could not get off of without transportation or food or water……

aaaaand Lincoln was the Best U. S. President who Preserved Liberty and Freedom in America….next to Ronald Reagan……….

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:26 PM

wolly4321 on February 20, 2014 at 11:15 PM

There is a very real reason to think that there is somthing in the wind to a New World Order/Globalists etc.

Hence the push for climate change being monetarized.

Hence the need to strip americans of their money.

174 Corporations now control everything done in the world, tho there are around 400 or so major Corps, a few control the most and are busy buying up small corps.

Banks, heh, Federal Reserve, UN banks, world banks will control all the money in the near distant future.

Unfortunately, men/women/children will die…

Do you think anyone in charge gives a shite about you or me or our families?

We are expendable… the serfs always have been, oh, we’ll fight, but to what end…

Reality my friend…

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:26 PM

I believe if push came to shove that we as a nation would engage and we would see people rally around our president. But that time is not now. Diplomacy first.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:24 PM

People do not rally around a weak ‘leader’.

Lanceman on February 20, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Why would we “engage”? Let the Ukrainians work out their problems. If the situation escalates, impose sanctions.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:27 PM

I truly believe the truth lies center and I am passionate about finding that middle ground and ultimately the truth.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:17 PM

The truth does not lay anywhere….It is what it is…

Whether it benefits those on the Right, on the Left, or
in the Middle is for the individual to determine…

ToddPA on February 20, 2014 at 11:27 PM

ToddPA on February 20, 2014 at 11:05 PM

I truly believe the truth lies center and I am passionate about finding that middle ground and ultimately the truth.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:17 PM

I do not wish to insult you any more than is necessary, but has it occurred to you that that you might be an imbeciles? The truth does not lie in the middle ground. It is the product of empirical evidence. That which is true has no politic agenda, It simply speaks for itself.

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:27 PM

do not want more wars. I believe tho, it is somthing that in the near future, wil be unavoidable, either for our own freedom, or as a feigned freedom for someone else… Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Me either. But I wonder what people were thinking before the last great mass conflagurations..

Probably the same thing.

And then we killed each other in the millions.

I still would like to skip it all, cabin in the woods.

wolly4321 on February 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM

second thunderstorm this week … the one on Monday was Thunder-sleet.

PolAgnostic on February 20, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Have you looked into a solar panel or a windmill to mitigate the circumstances?
/or at least, maybe, you’ll feel better?

bettycooper on February 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM

crankyoldlady on February 20, 2014 at 11:25 PM

I am sorry, but war never brings peace… think about it :)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM

ConstantineXI on February 20, 2014 at 11:25 PM

I see you and I have different ideas on what constitutes “art,” my friend. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Heh

I figured it was Chet Huntsman…trying to outdo
Extremely Convervative Mitt…

ToddPA on February 20, 2014 at 11:24 PM

…Ahem!: “Severely” Conservative…..you mean…

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:29 PM

I am sorry, but war never brings peace… think about it :)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM

….ALWAYS does……

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:29 PM

….That which is true has no politic agenda, It simply speaks for itself.

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Beautifully said! :)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:29 PM

People do not rally around a weak ‘leader’.

Lanceman on February 20, 2014 at 11:26 PM

But they will rally around a calculated leader who has proven that we need to build a consensus of opinion before wading into the business of other nations.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:30 PM

I am sorry, but war never brings peace… think about it :)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Sometimes it’s the only thing left against tyranny.

crankyoldlady on February 20, 2014 at 11:30 PM

ConstantineXI on February 20, 2014 at 11:25 PM

I see you and I have different ideas on what constitutes “art,” my friend. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM

No one has EVER written a more brilliant lyric than “someone’s left the cake out in the rain…”

ConstantineXI on February 20, 2014 at 11:31 PM

crankyoldlady on February 20, 2014 at 11:25 PM

I am sorry, but war never brings peace… think about it :)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Only those who have know the barbarity of war an know what peace is…. (only the dead know the end of war)

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:31 PM

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:29 PM

WW1 was the war to end all wars.

Then we had WW2, to end all wars, and how many wars have been fought since?

Yeah, we’ll have, no, the world will know peace, cuz we all will be dead and the cockroaches reign supreme, then there will be peace.

Peace is temporary…

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM

But they will rally around a calculated leader who has proven that we need to build a consensus of opinion before wading into the business of other nations.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:30 PM

You DO realize that what you just said was we need a leader who will follow public opinion, don’t you?

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM

I do not wish to insult you any more than is necessary, but has it occurred to you that that you might be an imbeciles? The truth does not lie in the middle ground. It is the product of empirical evidence. That which is true has no politic agenda, It simply speaks for itself.

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:27 PM

True, but looking at history one can find that definition usually falls in the middle of the spectrum.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM

But they will rally around a calculated leader who has proven that we need to build a consensus of opinion before wading into the business of other nations.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Heil Hitler……

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM

crankyoldlady on February 20, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Can’t argue with that!

But then the only ones who know peace are the dead, they know true peace…

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Alien on February 20, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Be nice. Rose doesn’t comment very often and is reticent. We all understood what she was asking.

INC on February 20, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Oops, sorry, I did not — at first glance… I apologize, Rose.

Alien on February 20, 2014 at 11:33 PM

True, but looking at history one can find that definition usually falls in the middle of the spectrum.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM

That which “falls” in the “middle of the spectrum” is opinion.

The Truth IS.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM

high hopes

5 straight weeks of 12 hr. days bouncing around on a D8 or 627F. I’m wore out. Off to bed for the rest of my Floyd fix.

Nite all

Fred

jrsrigmvr on February 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM

INC on February 20, 2014 at 11:23PM

My mistake about Ukraine. However would it not have been better to allow the South to have its independence then to fight a war? The Civil War was fought less than a hundred years after the Revolutionary War. Why did the South not deserve to have its independence?

Rose on February 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM

I believe if push came to shove that we as a nation would engage and we would see people rally around our president. But that time is not now. Diplomacy first.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:24 PM

…have you yet?…seen ANY diplomacy from our pos prez?…that is just a retarded statement…sir!

KOOLAID2 on February 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM

This should bring Sparkplug a running.

RickB on February 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM

jrsrigmvr on February 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Niters and sleep well, Fred. Please give our best to Dear Mrs Fred, please!

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Wish I could keep going tonight, but I have to get some shut eye. Duty calls.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:35 PM

I think extreme moderate must be extremely young. Only youth thinks that way.

crankyoldlady on February 20, 2014 at 11:35 PM

But they will rally around a calculated leader who has proven that we need to build a consensus of opinion before wading into the business of other nations.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:30 PM

And I’m sorry to say that obama is none of those.

2 decades of this nonsensical black culture worship combined with what passes for education coupled with our ‘first world problems’ has led to the election of an ineffectual girly-man. A man who accomplished absolutely nothing in his life, save whatever affirmative action and fellow travelers in academia provided for him.

A man who undoubtedly spent much time inside a locker in high school (Axelrod)read the populace correctly, and promoted a fool to a country of fools.

And here we are.

Lanceman on February 20, 2014 at 11:35 PM

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:27 PM

True, but looking at history one can find that definition usually falls in the middle of the spectrum.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Apparently you have never studied history or studied the consequences thereof…

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:35 PM

I believe Ronald Reagan said this……but if not him – someone very smart did:

“Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Nazism, Communism, and Baathism, War Never Solved Anything”

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

…Ahem!: “Severely” Conservative…..you mean…

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Sorry, my bad. Yeah, Mitt really convinced me after
making that statement…I was ready to walk over
broken glass for the guy, Geez!

ToddPA on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

RickB on February 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM

We can try this as a back-up:

Bananarama – Venus

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Fred

jrsrigmvr on February 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM

God Bless you fred, sleep well!! :)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

I’m sorry, but war never brings peace… think about it :) Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM

They do seem to keep happening. The last one won’t be last.

If I go grizzly Adams… can I skip the next one?

Or am I a slave to the empire?

wolly4321 on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

The storm here was brief and is gone now so I will disappear.

crankyoldlady on February 20, 2014 at 11:37 PM

No one has EVER written a more brilliant lyric than “someone’s left the cake out in the rain…”

ConstantineXI on February 20, 2014 at 11:31 PM

….Oh, For The Love Of……….WHO Left the Windowpane out where this guy could get it?……HE TOOK TOO MUCH!!!

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Lanceman on February 20, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Well thought out summation there, Lance. I couldn’t have said it better.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Wish I could keep going tonight, but I have to get some shut eye. Duty calls.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:35 PM

You may come back anytime.

Lanceman on February 20, 2014 at 11:38 PM

But they will rally around a calculated leader who has proven that we need to build a consensus of opinion before wading into the business of other nations.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Heil Hitler……

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM

I was thinking II Duce, because of the cool Hat and all…

ToddPA on February 20, 2014 at 11:38 PM

True, but looking at history one can find that definition usually falls in the middle of the spectrum.

Extreme Moderate on February 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Doesn’t “No Labels” have a comments section?

Alien on February 20, 2014 at 11:38 PM

crankyoldlady on February 20, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Niters and sleep well, COL.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Sorry, my bad. Yeah, Mitt really convinced me after
making that statement…I was ready to walk over
broken glass for the guy, Geez!

ToddPA on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

LoL!!!

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:39 PM

“Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Nazism, Communism, and Baathism, War Never Solved Anything”

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Then someone comes along and creates another “ism” and so it goes, it is never ending, temporary peace, and then war rears it’s ugly head for someone’s “ism” and here we go again…

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:39 PM

davidk on February 20, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Wow. Just wow.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Yo, SPARKPLUG!!

Don’t make me open the Big Guns… :0

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Evening all

OMG I’m od’g on Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood. LOL I worked with Muff Winwood Steve’s brother….

CoffeeLover on February 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM

I was thinking II Duce, because of the cool Hat and all…

ToddPA on February 20, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Sadly, while Il Duce, works technically as an equal example, sadly his notoriety in the US is not sufficient to provide an example.

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM

wolly4321 on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Go Grizzly wolly, and you may survive, or not.

If I was younger, I would fight for this country, I am not, so I would prolly try to hide for as long as possible… no shame in that, we all want to live and not die, but sometimes some things are worth dying for… but then again, who know when the shite hits the fan…

Give me a gun!! ;)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

thank you Chrissy. I am blessed to have a friend like you.

Goodnight. Adios vaya con dios

Fred

jrsrigmvr on February 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Rose on February 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Rose, The debate still roils the waters, and as I’m no expert on the Civil War I’ll let others who know more than I do conjecture if they desire.

I do know there are some who think that one of the negative outcomes of the Civil War was too much centralization of power into the federal government.

INC on February 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM

CoffeeLover on February 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Welcome aboard, CL!

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM

“Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Nazism, Communism, and Baathism, War Never Solved Anything”

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Then someone comes along and creates another “ism” and so it goes, it is never ending, temporary peace, and then war rears it’s ugly head for someone’s “ism” and here we go again…

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Exactly!!…So – the problem isn’t “wars” it’s egocentric dictator’s “ism’s”!!

There will ALWAYS be Thieves who Use Arms To Steal From Innocent People……but when a “mark” Pulls out a gun Shoots The Thief In the Face……the Thief’s Robbery Reign STOPS!!!

….it’s not “guns and violence” that’s the problem…….it’s NOT having Guns to Direct Towards Violent Acts That Prey On Innocents!!

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM

crankyoldlady on February 20, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Good night and God Bless you!!

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Well, what did we expect by reelecting Barack “Bend Over” Obama? He is worthless and weak in foreign affairs, a despotic socialist in domestic affairs.

Of course the world is falling apart. It’s like a house full of teenagers when the parents are out of town and aren’t feared or respected anyway. In a place with no police or fire department.

1064 days and counting . . .

Adjoran on February 20, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Obama has become joke all over Europe. Sure, most will say they prefer him as US president, but the primary reason is because he is weak. The US is now just an afterthought thanks to the weakling in the White House. And the Russians have been playing the Obama administration as a fiddle.

Norwegian on February 20, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Message to Ukrainian citizens from the “Ukrainian equivalent of NRA.”

http://tinyurl.com/kbv5ycs

To translate, go here: http://www.bing.com/translator

davidk on February 20, 2014 at 11:44 PM

From the earlier thread :

President Barack Obama condemned the violence in Ukraine on Wednesday, saying that the U.S. holds the government “primarily responsible for ensuring they are handling protesters peacefully” and that “there will be consequences if people step over the line.”

From : http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/obama-condemns-ukraine-violence-threatens-consequences-n33396

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Translation :

“We’ll tell Vladimir that Ukraine is all his, and we will not stand in the way.”

listens2glenn on February 20, 2014 at 11:45 PM

In the three months since the start of the Ukraine crisis, there have been countless videos uploaded to YouTube. But none has had anything like the impact of a video called “I am a Ukrainian”. In it, a young protester stands on the street in Kiev on a cold dark night. She addresses the camera directly and simply. “We want to be free,” she says – in English. The courts are corrupt, she says, and politicians are behaving like dictators. The video has had thousands of comments, with people writing from around the world to express solidarity – from Egypt to Kashmir to Turkey.

Soon in the US too.

Schadenfreude on February 20, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Yo, SPARKPLUG!!

Don’t make me open the Big Guns… :0

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:41 PM

You have big guns??? Sadly am sure I will have fallen asleep before you can roll them out. :P

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:45 PM

You guys see this? Why haven’t this been posted on Hotair? This sounds like a great idea to me.

http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2014/02/19/plan-to-split-california-six-ways-is-closer-to-vote/

jawkneemusic on February 20, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Sadly, while Il Duce, works technically as an equal example, sadly his notoriety in the US is not sufficient to provide an example.

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Very true.

Good night.

ToddPA on February 20, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Evening all …

CoffeeLover on February 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Hello CL. I promise not to yell Japanese words at you. The censorbot threw me out the other night. (“negi” = onion and “maki” = roll; don’t know why the beef gets left out)

Alien on February 20, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Here’s how engaged our Pu$$y President is: while fires burn and people die in the streets of Venezuela, Ukraine, and Syria, he bugged his Hollywood producer pals to give him advance copies of new movies and TV series so he’ll have something to do this weekend.

Because otherwise he’d be bored. Nothing to do.

Adjoran on February 20, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Who the heck is “Extreme Moderate?” Is that a newbie?

CoffeeLover on February 20, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Exactly!!…So – the problem isn’t “wars” it’s egocentric dictator’s “ism’s”!!

There will ALWAYS be Thieves who Use Arms To Steal From Innocent People……but when a “mark” Pulls out a gun Shoots The Thief In the Face……the Thief’s Robbery Reign STOPS!!!

….it’s not “guns and violence” that’s the problem…….it’s NOT having Guns to Direct Towards Violent Acts That Prey On Innocents!!

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Right on wg! :)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:47 PM

Heart – Never

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Would it be inappropriate to tell you I love you for posting that?

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:47 PM

Rose on February 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Rose, compare the Confederate Constitution with the American Constitution and tell me who was fighting for the “right” thing.

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:47 PM

Soon in the US too.

Schadenfreude on February 20, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Sadly, we have seen videos like this before haven’t we.

What happened? The Arab Spring.

Great Flop…

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Be safe!! Hope you are not in any danger :)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 10:54 PM


Thank you, Scrumpy.

When we built the house I asked the builder how much for a “tornado room” to be added outside the foundation wall under the front porch (You want it outside the footprint of the house structure in case of a structural collapse). Surrounded by dirt on three sides and anchored to 28 full size trucks of concrete used for our basement. SHARKNADO wouldn’t touch this safe haven.

Best $ 1,600 we ever spent – had a couple of times when we were at work, kids were home from school and the “forecast path” during a tornado warning ran over our property.

Kids, radio, flashlights & dogs into the tornado room – everthing that was IMPORTANT was as safe as anyone could be.

PolAgnostic on February 20, 2014 at 11:48 PM

You have big guns??? Sadly am sure I will have fallen asleep before you can roll them out. :P

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:45 PM

How’s this one for starts, Oscar?

Christina Aguilera, Lil’ Kim, Mya and Pink – Lady Marmalade

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:49 PM

PolAgnostic on February 20, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Then you keep a watchful eye and get them all to safety as soon as possible!!

Smart thinking on that safe room :)

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:50 PM

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:47 PM

No, it would not, Oscar. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:50 PM

The same thing is happening in Venezuela: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/20/With-Friends-Like-These-Assad-Supports-Violent-Repression-In-Venezuela

Keep your powder dry and your guns oiled. Our turn may be next.

davidk on February 20, 2014 at 11:50 PM

Second!!!

KCB on February 20, 2014 at 10:41 PM

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Really??

KCB on February 20, 2014 at 10:42 PM

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(insert Nelson Munce “ha ha” sound-track, here)

listens2glenn on February 20, 2014 at 11:51 PM

and anchored to 28 full size trucks of concrete used for our basement.

PolAgnostic on February 20, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Rock on mother something or other… Rock on… <—– Insert very big grin here….

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:51 PM

They do seem to keep happening. The last one won’t be last.

If I go grizzly Adams… can I skip the next one?

Or am I a slave to the empire?

wolly4321 on February 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Seldom do we leave this place, usually we are enduring but all the paste upon our face makes it all worth doing

kenny on February 20, 2014 at 11:51 PM

PolAgnostic on February 20, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Now THAT’S using your head, Pol! Well Done!

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:52 PM

Obama couldn’t “act quickly” if his stash depended on it…

viking01 on February 20, 2014 at 11:52 PM

I absolutely love Jeff Sessions:
http://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/2013/03/04/jeff-sessions-for-president/

bluegill on February 20, 2014 at 11:53 PM

Alien on February 20, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Oops censorbot doesn’t take too well to Japanese huh! I was in Tokyo in early 80s. Amazing place. It was snowing as I left. Should have gone to Hong Kong but instead stopped in Hawaii on my way back to NY.

Funny I only found my beef/scallion dish here in the US. I was totally rapt up in Wagu Beef Sandwiches at the Okura Hotel :)

Thanks for the info. I wrote it down…

CoffeeLover on February 20, 2014 at 11:53 PM

Heart – Never

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Heart. Stairway.

KCB on February 20, 2014 at 11:53 PM

You have big guns??? Sadly am sure I will have fallen asleep before you can roll them out. :P

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:45 PM

How’s this one for starts, Oscar?

Christina Aguilera, Lil’ Kim, Mya and Pink – Lady Marmalade

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:49 PM

Sigh…. Are you asking me about the quality of the musical recording….. Or the video???

oscarwilde on February 20, 2014 at 11:53 PM

No, it would not, Oscar. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:50 PM

Flirt….

KCB on February 20, 2014 at 11:54 PM

Greetings all!

Doc Holliday on February 20, 2014 at 11:55 PM

KCB on February 20, 2014 at 11:54 PM

Guilty, but I DO try to keep it above board. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:55 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on February 20, 2014 at 11:47PM

Accept for the slavery part, I don’t see much difference. Bringing new slaves into the country was forbidden. Slavery was an horrendous thing, but Britain was able to end it without slaughtering its citizens. Eventually slavery would have ended as it did in Britain. There were already movements to do so. In addition to the industrial revolution. Most of the people who were killed in the war were not even slave owners.

Rose on February 20, 2014 at 11:56 PM

Watch This And Post It EVERYWHERE:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/02/20/I-am-a-Ukrainian-protest-video-goes-viral

williamg on February 20, 2014 at 11:56 PM

Doc Holliday on February 20, 2014 at 11:55 PM

Good evening Doc!! Busy night again?

Scrumpy on February 20, 2014 at 11:57 PM

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