Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on February 18, 2014 by Allahpundit

The new Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report finds that 16.5 million workers would get a raise from increasing the minimum wage to $10.10 per hour and this would help millions of hard-working families, reduce poverty, and increase the overall wages going to lower-income households.

On employment, CBO’s central estimate is that raising the minimum wage to $10.10 per hour would lead to a 0.3 percent decrease in employment and CBO acknowledges that the employment impact could be essentially zero. But even these estimates do not reflect the overall consensus view of economists which is that raising the minimum wage has little or no negative effect on employment. For example, seven Nobel Prize winners and more than 600 other economists recently stated that: “In recent years there have been important developments in the academic literature on the effect of increases in the minimum wage on employment, with the weight of evidence now showing that increases in the minimum wage have had little or no negative effect on the employment of minimum-wage workers, even during times of weakness in the labor market.”…

Overall the logic for the finding that raising the minimum wage does not result in large adverse impacts on employment is that paying workers a better wage can improve productivity and thereby reduce unit labor costs. These adjustments, along with others that firms can make, help explain why the increase in the minimum wage need not lead to a reduction in employment. Higher wages lead to lower turnover, reducing the amount employers must spend recruiting and training new employees. Paying workers more can also improve motivation, morale, focus, and health, all of which can make workers more productive. In addition, by reducing absenteeism, higher wages can increase the productivity of coworkers who depend on each other or work in teams. In addition, businesses can adjust in other ways rather than reducing employment (for example, by accepting lower profit margins). CBO’s estimates do not appear to fully reflect the increased emphasis on all of these factors from the recent economics literature.

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White House economist Jason Furman rejected the Congressional Budget Office’s prediction that a minimum wage increase will cost 500,000 jobs as out of step with the economic consensus.

“This is not a piece of original research into the impact of the minimum wage on employment,” Furman told reporters during a Tuesday afternoon White House call. “It’s completely reasonable to think that it would have zero impact on unemployment,” he said, citing the “highest quality” studies of the question.

The Congressional Budget Office estimated that increasing the minimum wage would cost about 500,000 jobs, a view that another White House economist said reflects an freshman-level understanding of economics that used to be common among economists but has since been abandoned by most professionals.

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“No matter how the critics spin this report, the CBO made it absolutely clear: raising the minimum wage would lift almost one million Americans out of poverty,” House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi wrote in a statement.

For Democrats, the report hit on their income inequality fault line, showing that 16.5 million low-wage workers would see their incomes jump.

“Hard-working Americans deserve a raise, and this new report shows that over 16 million Americans will receive a raise from an increase in the minimum wage,” wrote Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D- Nevada, in his own statement.

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[Liberals] further argue the minimum wage stood above $10 an hour in the 1960s. Raising it to $10.10 an hour would (supposedly) only return it to this previous level.

The Heritage Foundation found this analysis questionable. The most accurate inflation measures show that the minimum wage has never stood much above $8 an hour. So the President actually proposes hiking the minimum wage one-seventh above its all-time high. That would strongly encourage employers to hire fewer less skilled workers. Heritage Foundation analysis concluded that—even accounting for any stimulus effects—the proposed minimum wage hike would cost 300,000 jobs.

The Congressional Budget Office’s new report concurs.

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“This report confirms what we’ve long known: While helping some, mandating higher wages has real costs, including fewer people working,” Brendan Buck, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner, said in a statement. “With unemployment Americans’ top concern, our focus should be creating, not destroying, jobs for those who need them most.”

Senate Minority Whip John Cornyn of Texas concurred.

“The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office confirmed yet again what we know to be true of government overreach in the marketplace: raising the minimum wage would slash jobs and harm an already fragile workforce,” Cornyn said in a statement. “Whether it’s Obamacare, a minimum-wage hike or a trillion-dollar stimulus bill charged to the nation’s credit card, the bottom line is the president’s big-government experiment kills jobs.

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A new report by the Congressional Budget Office (see this summary by the Washington Examiner’s Joseph Lawler) contradicts several arguments President Obama has advanced as part of his campaign to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10 per hour…

Obama: “Rais[ing] the federal minimum wage to $10.10 wouldn’t just raise wages for minimum-wage workers, its effect would lift wages for about 28 million Americans.”

The CBO said that 16.5 million workers — not 28 million — would receive a raise if the minimum wage is raised and that “increased earnings for low-wage workers resulting from the higher minimum wage would total $31 billion.” However, this increase would be paired with lower effective earnings “for the people who became jobless because of the minimum-wage increase, for business owners, and for consumers facing higher prices.” Thus, “Once the increases and decreases in income for all workers are taken into account, overall real income would rise by $2 billion.”…

The bottom line is that Obama has presented hiking the minimum wage as a no-brainer that would boost the economy, increase wages and immediately reduce poverty without adverse effects. CBO has estimated that in reality, the action would raise unemployment among lower-income workers, deliver most of its benefits to families living above the poverty level, and have offsetting adverse effects on businesses and consumers. To the extent that it will reduce poverty, according to the CBO, the effect will be less significant and less immediate than what Obama has claimed.

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Obama presented it as a way to help struggling families: “Americans overwhelmingly agree that no one who works full time should ever have to raise a family in poverty.” That comment provides a misleading picture of who minimum-wage earners are. The White House’s own graph promoting the idea shows that only 26 percent of minimum-wage earners have kids. Thirty percent either have spouses and no kids or are kids themselves.

Raising the minimum wage is not an effective tool against poverty, either. A 2010 study found that state poverty rates were unaffected by minimum-wage increases. It also found that if the minimum wage were raised to $9.50 an hour from $7.25, only 11 percent of the beneficiaries would be people who live in poor households. Forty-two percent would be people living in households making more than three times the poverty line (which means they’re well above the country’s median household income)…

My American Enterprise Institute colleague Michael Strain puts it this way: “Hundreds of thousands of low-skill workers are trying to find a job but can’t. Is it really the right time to raise the cost of hiring and make it harder for businesses to hire them? Some studies say a higher minimum wage will lower employment; some say employment will remain unchanged. Shouldn’t we err on the side of caution?

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In an important article in the economic journal Challenge, “A Conservative Case for the Minimum Wage,” Oren Levin-Waldman, professor of public policy at Metropolitan College of New York, offered a similar view and made compelling moral points. Higher pay “increases the autonomy of low-wage workers,” he said, thus advancing “personal freedom” and “a core concept in conservative thought, which is personal responsibility.” This, in turn, means less dependence “on the largesse of others.”

And, as Annie Lowrey argued earlier this month in the New York Times, those who rightly worry about the breakdown of marriage need to remember that “creating good jobs with growing wages at the bottom of the income scale might be the best, if hardest, way to encourage young couples to wed.”

Conservative politicians really need to ask themselves: If they refuse to raise the minimum wage and at the same time insist on cutting health care and wage-support programs, are they not consigning millions more of their fellow citizens to lives of poverty? Most Americans reject this view, and that includes most conservatives who believe in work, family and personal responsibility.

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going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 12:36 AM

Dude, 3d printing is the most open sourced industry out there. Except for their extruder feeder, that machine by Korbot is a walking talking Ultimaker machine from the Netherlands. The one to copy and beat right now is a machine made in NY call the Makerbot. You can copy anything anyone makes. As a matter of fact, it’s an honor of sorts to have your models copied, used, modified. Same with the machines. As soon as I print and install my new design for that extruder feeder I’m going to post it on Thingiverse and see if I can’t get some nerd chicks to notice me.

Thingiverse.com is pretty cool for projects and ideas and Sketchup, you can literally find anything there.

Except a liberal brain.

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 12:46 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 12:38 AM

ahhh…lightbulb…
at least I think I got it…
doesn’t 307 wolverine speak Japanese ??
anyone??

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 12:47 AM

The French Revolution was sparked by ole Louis XVI suspending the National Assembly in 1789 and dismissing his financial adviser Necker who was sympathetic to the people. Shortly after, the people stormed the Bastille.

The similarities are striking that barry soetoro (AKA BS) has effectively done the same with the blessing of “Marbles” Boehner who is usually incoherent but did succeed in blurting out “why pass laws when my King does not heed them?”

But as we muse of Louis, Adolf and Mao, perhaps the answer is much simpler. BS was raised in Indonesia by a Islamic elitist family under Sharia. Methinks we do not have a King, but an Ayatollah.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on February 19, 2014 at 12:47 AM

These fools also vote.

Schadenfreude on February 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM

Schadenfreude on February 19, 2014 at 12:41 AM

Same goes for the old guys. You know our motto, “On topic or off with your head!”

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM

DANICA!

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 12:46 AM

.
. . . And ? . . .

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM

did you see the grid for the 150 qualifiers yet ??
loaded with rooks…could be a crashfest..

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2014/2/16/nascar-sprint-cup-daytona-duel-daytona-500-qualifying-races.html

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM

What is the #3 on there for? Thought that was retired.

kcewa on February 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM

I’m not asking for it to happen, but I often wonder why the trolls seldom show up on qotd.

They would be free to hijack, if possible.

You would think they would flock here.

wolly4321 on February 19, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Same goes for the old guys. You know our motto, “On topic or off with your head!”

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM

Unfortunately it’s all the same topic, my friend.

Schadenfreude on February 19, 2014 at 12:49 AM

. . . And ? . . .

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM

And what? I like Danica. She’s in the first qualifier.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 12:50 AM

doesn’t 307 wolverine speak Japanese ??
anyone??

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 12:47 AM

Oops. sorry. Korbot equals Korean.

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 12:50 AM

But as we muse of Louis, Adolf and Mao, perhaps the answer is much simpler. BS was raised in Indonesia by a Islamic elitist family under Sharia. Methinks we do not have a King, but an Ayatollah.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on February 19, 2014 at 12:47 AM

Or he could easily be seen as our first Potentate and Sultan. He has lavish, half-million dollar dinners thrown in his honor (supposedly for the Frog) at the White House. His wife wears a stupid looking dress the cost of which would feed a lot of hungry chil’ren! The Sultan of Brunei, has nothing on 0bama, except that the Sultan of Brunei, uses his own money for his opulence, whereas 0bama uses OUR money to fund his lavish over-the-top indulgences.

RasThavas on February 19, 2014 at 12:51 AM

You would think they would flock here.

wolly4321 on February 19, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Years ago, they used to. Wait until it gets closer to an election.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 12:51 AM

kcewa on February 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM

Richard Childers owns the number 3…
he has his grandson driving it in its return to the sport
it was never retired…
to my knowledge no number is retired in racing…
(my father died in a racecar with the number 5 on the door)
ant number 5 is used throughout the world

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 12:51 AM

did you see the grid for the 150 qualifiers yet ??
loaded with rooks…could be a crashfest..

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2014/2/16/nascar-sprint-cup-daytona-duel-daytona-500-qualifying-races.html

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM

.
That’s been every year, at least since 1980, when I first listened (MRN Radio) to the “Twin Qualifiers”.

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 12:52 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM

Unfortunately it’s all the same topic, my friend.

Schadenfreude on February 19, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Okay, I’m going to have to ask you to leave now.

Or post a promise to fight immigration.

Or, … or post a really cool tune everyone will enjoy.

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 12:52 AM

These fools also vote.

Schadenfreude on February 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM

I fear the amount of those fools…out numbers us..
ive seen some pretty dim bulbs in my travels…were doomed..!!

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 12:53 AM

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 12:51 AM

Yeah I just read that. He’s on the pole too.

kcewa on February 19, 2014 at 12:54 AM

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 12:52 AM

the twin 125s….used to be…but they had to throw in a pitstop
or two so it wasn’t a gas mileage deal..
always Thursday…
your going right ??

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 12:55 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 12:09 AM

Lolz. Ok you are impersonating sum body? Who? I will let the other ninnies guess.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 12:12 AM

In other words, he could have been a little more specific, but rather than allude to an articulation of the mundane, he has come to the conclusion that satire and burlesque are the only things of any worth in our nation’s now shallow existence. God damn!

RasThavas on February 19, 2014 at 12:58 AM

I like Danica. She’s in the first qualifier. Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 12:50 Am

She gets 1/2 naked. I dig that.

The dudes she wrecks at the back of the pack probably don’t like her much.

She’ll get more naked as her career fails. I look forward to it.

She’s kinda hot.

wolly4321 on February 19, 2014 at 1:00 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:01 AM

obama is silent on Kiev and Venezuela because he doesn’t want to expose his affilitations with the thugs.

Or, … or post a really cool tune everyone will enjoy.

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 12:52 AM

On topic

Schadenfreude on February 19, 2014 at 1:03 AM

How is a company that puts out such a giant stinking, steaming turd like this still in business? My wife wiped this and did a clean install, so (in theory), it should be as quick and snappy as the day it was bought. I just spent 30 minutes installing iTunes! It just churns and churns over the simplest operation.

PointnClick on February 18, 2014 at 11:50 PM

I agree, iTunes is an intrusive, overly complex, poorly-written piece of bloatware.

29Victor on February 19, 2014 at 1:03 AM

Quit bad-mouthing Danica because she’s a girl! Gordon’s a girl and you don’t bash him!

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:04 AM

. . . And ? . . .

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM

.
And what? I like Danica. She’s in the first qualifier.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 12:50 AM

.
From Saturday night’s QOTD.
Commentary on Danica Patrick, by wolly’, william’, and myself :
.

NASCAR would be better if Danika drove naked.

wolly4321 on February 16, 2014 at 12:39 AM
.

Who CARES abou “NASCAR”?…..THE WORLD would be a better place if she did That! There might be Peace in The Middle East…..biologically speaking….

williamg on February 16, 2014 at 12:44 AM

.
She wouldn’t have to be “naked”.

If she would step out of the driver’s seat (yeah, I know; a “demotion” of sorts), and do what Linda Vaughn did … she would be a draw to the “male” crowd, anyway.
Whether any female today could truly replace Linda Vaughn might be open to debate, though. Tough act to follow.

listens2glenn on February 16, 2014 at 1:15 AM

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 1:05 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014

do you know CNC zone..
maybe someone here talked about your troubles/idea

www dot cnczone dot com

seems the nsa doesn’t want me to post that page..i got edited..hmm

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:05 AM

evening DS…

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:06 AM

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:06 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:07 AM

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:04 AM

Have you had any contact with MeatheadinCA lately??..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:08 AM

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 1:05 AM

she hasn’t got anywhere near the lung capacity Linda Vaughn had…
nor the physical stature..
and I hate the beachball look…
no…sorry not for her..
she will retire…winless…just has the King said…
but loaded…rich rich rich…so that nice

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:09 AM

Quit bad-mouthing Danica because she’s a girl! Gordon’s a girl and you don’t bash him!

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:04 AM

Robby’s retired.

RickB on February 19, 2014 at 1:09 AM

Have you had any contact with MeatheadinCA lately??..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:08 AM

I can if you want.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:09 AM

Quit bad-mouthing Danica because she’s a girl! Gordon’s a girl and you don’t bash him!

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:04 AM

.
Did he “come-outta’-the-closet”?

That would explain his first wife leaving him.

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 1:10 AM

29Victor on February 19, 2014 at 1:03 AM

I’m not disagreeing with you BUT they are taking a bite out of record stores..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:11 AM

Danikanudecam.

Just a thought.

Her purty pink toenails on the gas pedal..

wolly4321 on February 19, 2014 at 1:11 AM

For Danica and Ricky Jr.

Dirt Track Date – Southern Culture on the Skids.

kcewa on February 19, 2014 at 1:12 AM

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:09 AM

Ask him to drop by one night if he can to “shoot the breeze”..I miss his posts..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:13 AM

On topic

Schadenfreude on February 19, 2014 at 1:03 AM

Okay, the only thing that will get that brain worm out of my head is Alice in Chains.

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:14 AM

She has a solid b+ cup.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:14 AM

Ask him to drop by one night if he can to “shoot the breeze”..I miss his posts..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:13 AM

I will.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:14 AM

if your gonna replace Linda Vaughn
here’s your girl…the gravity shoot from SI..

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=sports+illustrated+gravity+shoot&qpvt=sports+illustrated+gravity+shoot&FORM=IGRE

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:14 AM

Robby’s retired.

RickB on February 19, 2014 at 1:09 AM

I think that guy could have made it big with the right team..He just did not quite have the temperment for stock cars..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:14 AM

id he “come-outta’-the-closet”? That would explain his first wife leaving him. listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 1:10 AM

Or nobody can fold $1 bills in half lenghtwise that fast.

wolly4321 on February 19, 2014 at 1:15 AM

Not only off topic, but completely non-sequitur to what everyone is is talking about, but my wife just gave me her Compac laptop running Win XP SP2… I’m a dyed in the wool Mac guy, so with that in mind, I have a serious question…

How is a company that puts out such a giant stinking, steaming turd like this still in business? My wife wiped this and did a clean install, so (in theory), it should be as quick and snappy as the day it was bought. I just spent 30 minutes installing iTunes! It just churns and churns over the simplest operation.

The only PC I ever owned was Gateway desktop running Win 2000, and I used it mostly as a print server… but it WORKED, for cripes sakes… and it sure as hell didn’t take 30 minutes to install a program!

I can’t see this dog getting much use… apologies to all you PeeCee gurus that love this crap…

/rant

PointnClick on February 18, 2014 at 11:50 PM

More to the point, you have a decade-old laptop made by a crap company (which, btw, shouldn’t “be as quick and snappy as the day it was bought” because of degradation of the power supply, hard drive and cooling system) and you’re trying to run a modern, overly-large intrusive piece of bloatware on it.

Do you have any idea how many unnecessary services iTunes installs without even asking? Do you have an iPod you’re going to plug in? No, too bad, you’re getting Apple Mobile device support. Are you going to watch quicktime movies? No? To bad, you got quicktime. How about these:
AppleMobileBackup.exe,
AppleMobileDeviceHelper.exe,
AppleMobileDeviceService.exe,
AppleMobileSync.exe,
distnoted.exe,
iPodService.exe,
iTunesHelper.exe,
iTunesPhotoProcessor.exe,
MDCrashReportTool.exe,
mDNSResponder.exe
SyncServer.exe
qttask.exe

Want ‘em? Too bad, you got ‘em. They all start running as soon as you start Windows. Most of them do things most iTunes users don’t need and many of them hang on a regular basis.

But yeah, Microsoft should make sure that their operating systems run “quick and snappy” on some other company’s ten year old hardware running some other company’s modern software – or they just totally suck.

/rant

29Victor on February 19, 2014 at 1:16 AM

If you want my ex,, she has a coinslot now.

wolly4321 on February 19, 2014 at 1:17 AM

29Victor on February 19, 2014 at 1:16 AM

Quit bad-mouthing the bloatware!

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:17 AM

In other words, he could have been a little more specific, but rather than allude to an articulation of the mundane, he has come to the conclusion that satire and burlesque are the only things of any worth in our nation’s now shallow existence. God damn!

RasThavas on February 19, 2014 at 12:58 AM

And Sugar Frosted Flakes.

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:18 AM

I mean software!

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:18 AM

if you want to see what a fast woman racer looks like..
this young lady is going to F1 this year.. she can drive!!
(I shook her hand once, got an autograph..photos…crushing grip)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simona_de_Silvestro

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:18 AM

I’m not disagreeing with you BUT they are taking a bite out of record stores..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:11 AM

I’m not saying that iTunes isn’t a good idea or that it doesn’t have a good user interface, but man the program itself is a nasty piece of work. I’d say pretty much the same thing about any product made by Symantec (Norton).

29Victor on February 19, 2014 at 1:18 AM

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:14 AM

Who??..Kate Upton??..:):)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM

Have you had any contact with MeatheadinCA lately??..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:08 AM

Worse commenter than Lance.

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM

Quit bad-mouthing the bloatware!

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:17 AM

I believe that there was a time at Microsoft when programmers were paid per line of code. Normally one has to look to government for that kind of perverse incentive.

29Victor on February 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM

29Victor on February 19, 2014 at 1:18 AM

I hear you..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM

Obama presented it as a way to help struggling families: “Americans overwhelmingly agree that no one who works full time should ever have to raise a family in poverty.”
I am sick of the stupidity that flows out of obama’s mouth.

GaltBlvnAtty on February 19, 2014 at 1:22 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM

LoLz..He used to give AnninCA a hard time..Come to think of it..Who didn’t give AnninCA a hard time..He was/is a good poster from back in the day..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:22 AM

Who??..Kate Upton??..:):)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM

I’ve… seen things you people wouldn’t believe… Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched b+cups glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

29Victor on February 19, 2014 at 1:23 AM

29Victor on February 19, 2014 at 1:16 AM

Good point. iTunes keeps asking me if I want iApple mobile poop every time it updates iTunes which is about once every three days.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:24 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM

Can I ask you a question??..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:24 AM

No, he’s not taking any questions tonight.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:24 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM

Can I ask you a question??..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:24 AM

if you want to see what a fast woman racer looks like..
this young lady is going to F1 this year.. she can drive!!
(I shook her hand once, got an autograph..photos…crushing grip)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simona_de_Silvestro

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:18 AM

Must be time for some Iron Maiden.

oscarwilde on February 19, 2014 at 1:25 AM

29Victor on February 19, 2014 at 1:23 AM

Wow..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:25 AM

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 1:05 AM

.
she hasn’t got anywhere near the lung capacity Linda Vaughn had…
nor the physical stature..

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:09 AM

.
Who does ? . . . : )
.

and I hate the beachball look…
no…sorry not for her..
she will retire…winless…just has the King said…
but loaded…rich rich rich…so that nice

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:09 AM

.
I don’t hate it . . . . . but it sure ain’t Linda.

I quit following NASCAR by the late 1990s, so if Danica wants to keep driving, and fans want to see her, and she’s not responsible for causing too many ‘wrecks-that-take-out-other-drivers’ … no biggie.

I still think of Patty Moise, when it comes to female drivers in NASCAR. I thought she was the most genuinely successful female driver, and she was classy. No one that I remember gave her any special help or media attention … (okay, except for Elton Sawyer).

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 1:26 AM

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM

Oh my. She has them jonnies that bounce. Also that top is painted on. It’s all her.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:26 AM

Lanceman wins the mischief award tonight hands down.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:27 AM

Must be time for some Iron Maiden.

oscarwilde on February 19, 2014 at 1:25 AM

Sounds great..Perfect music to “spec” out the Mars Rover..:):)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:27 AM

Wish bluegill4ever would show up.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:27 AM

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:27 AM

and good evening to you as well, oh… by the way, Dave didn’t show up for his shift again…

oscarwilde on February 19, 2014 at 1:28 AM

This is a dying thread…

OmahaConservative on February 19, 2014 at 1:29 AM

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:18 AM

I’d like to lap her…up.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:29 AM

This is a dying thread…

OmahaConservative on February 19, 2014 at 1:29 AM

No it’s just pining for the fjords…

oscarwilde on February 19, 2014 at 1:29 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM

Can I ask you a question??..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:24 AM

Only if the answer will let me bust on Lanceman one more time tonight.

No, kidding.

And kidding, Lance. We all love you.

What’s the question?

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:30 AM

oscarwilde on February 19, 2014 at 1:29 AM

Bwaaaaahhh. Ok let’s get on a viking ship and drink Meade and raid others people’s hotties.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:31 AM

What’s the question?

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:30 AM

Do I look like a mind-straightser?

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:31 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:30 AM

Were you affected by the COLA on your pension that got cut??..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:27 AM

Is that BG or a joker person?

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:32 AM

oscarwilde on February 19, 2014 at 1:28 AM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:32 AM

Lanceman wins the mischief award tonight hands down.
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SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:27 AM

.
Is there still enough time left, for me ‘win it’ away from him ?

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Is that BG or a joker person?

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:32 AM

Too smart to be the hag.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Okay. Here’s a Microsoft programmers joke.

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I never get tired of that one.

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:34 AM

And I know it’s wrong, but I feel for Lourdes.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 12:09 AM

Joy Division – Day of the Lords

This is the room, the start of it all
No portraits so fine, only sheets on the walls
I’ve seen the nights, filled with bloodsport and pain
And the bodies obtained, the bodies obtained

Where will it end? Where will it end?
Where will it end? Where will it end?

non-nonpartisan on February 19, 2014 at 1:34 AM

Is that BG or a joker person?

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:32 AM

In fact,I’d bet that a lot of the 4ev’s, non-nons,libdie’s mommas, Antwerks are all Bishop.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:35 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:30 AM
Were you affected by the COLA cut on early Military retirees pensions??..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Sorry..Badly worded..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Holy crap, one shows up!

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:36 AM

oscarwilde on February 19, 2014 at 1:29 AM

Bwaaaaahhh. Ok let’s get on a viking ship and drink Meade and raid others people’s hotties.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Sounds like a plan to me… ;)

oscarwilde on February 19, 2014 at 1:36 AM

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014

patty could drive…and im glad you made the Elton joke…laffs

you could add Joanna long and maryeve default
both today drivers in the nation wide series..
need money…pretty good talent..
Simona is the best female racer on the planet…no question
but they all wont take off their clothes to make the DP money..
good on em both

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:38 AM

Bwaaaaahhh. Ok let’s get on a viking ship and drink Meade and raid others people’s hotties.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:31 AM

I believe you mean mead.

Meade is Althouse’s old man.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:38 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:30 AM

Were you affected by the COLA on your pension that got cut??..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:31 AM

3 years of being retired, I’ve had one COLA increase. I missed the first and this last. I retired as a W5 making nearly as much as I did on active duty with the number of years I had in. Not everyone is like me though. Retired NCOs nearly always need to supplement that income. For me it was the principle. First in Sequestration cuts for the active duty operational, training and future funding before any entitlement was cut and first in retirement funding cuts while civilian employees were affected, goose egg.

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:39 AM

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:38 AM

I believe those Cruz threads have Palin potential once we get a little closer to 2016..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:41 AM

Holy crap, one shows up!

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:36 AM

Didn’t anybody ever warn you not to shout at the devil?

oscarwilde on February 19, 2014 at 1:41 AM

I believe those Cruz threads have Palin potential once we get a little closer to 2016..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:41 AM

You know it. I just hope HillAREwe holds on long enough.

Lanceman on February 19, 2014 at 1:44 AM

That joke can be translated here.

http://www.binarytranslator.com/index.php

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:44 AM

I’d like to lap her…up.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:29 AM

maybe she would drive your get away car
when you liberate lumber from Bmore..??

she might beat the heck out of ya if you ask anything else..

going2mars on February 19, 2014 at 1:44 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:39 AM

Thanks for explanation..House and Senate have now restored the cuts to COLA..Waiting on Obie’s signature if he can quit speech giving and golfing long enough to find a pen..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:44 AM

listens2glenn on February 19, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Yep. There is still time to bribe the judges.

SparkPlug on February 19, 2014 at 1:44 AM

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:39 AM

Thanks for explanation..House and Senate have now restored the cuts to COLA..Waiting on Obie’s signature if he can quit speech giving and golfing long enough to find a pen..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2014 at 1:44 AM

I have been busy and honestly did not know that.

hawkdriver on February 19, 2014 at 1:46 AM

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