New Jersey considers bill to rename Sea of Japan. Wait… what?

posted at 11:31 am on February 15, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

New Jersey has a lot on its plate lately, whether it’s the arguments over their Governor’s bridge related activities or a series of winter storms paralyzing sections of the state. The legislature is busy tackling one pressing issue after another, and now they’re working on … renaming the Sea of Japan?

A group of local politicians in New Jersey would like to rewrite maps of Asia.

On Monday, five New Jersey Democrats introduced a bill that would rename the sea between Japan and the Korean peninsula.

Currently, the sea is known as the Sea of Japan. But, according to the Star-Ledger newspaper, the bill would require “the state and all its political subdivisions, ‘to the extent practicable’” to refer to the body of water as both the “East Sea” and the “Sea of Japan.” Textbooks in New Jersey schools would have to adopt the new names starting in 2016.

Did the Garden State legalize recreational pot use and I just missed the story? The initiative was apparently pushed by a “large and politically active Korean-American community.” It seems that they find the name racist, offensive or something of that sort. But it seems to skip over the question of exactly how the New Jersey legislature determined that it had the authority to rename a body of water on the opposite side of the planet. Frankly, I’m not sure they’d have the duly vested power to rename Barnegat Bay. I don’t even know if there’s any sort of recognized process to do this at all, since most of the names of bodies of open salt water have been around since the earliest days of sailing ships.

What’s possibly more amazing is that they actually got Japan to respond to the measure.

According to Kyodo News International, Japan’s chief cabinet secretary Yoshihide Suga discussed the bill at a press conference Thursday.

“It’s extremely regrettable,” Suga said. “We’ll take various steps in response through diplomatic channels while seeking a correct understanding of the name of the Sea of Japan in the international community.”

Let’s put the Russians on notice. They’ve been getting away with having “the Black Sea” for far too long now. It’s clearly racist. New Jersey should rename it the Sea of Equal Opportunity at their next legislative meeting.


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Ship of Fools.

RushBaby on February 15, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Let’s put the Russians on notice. They’ve been getting away with having “the Black Sea” for far too long now. It’s clearly racist.

You’re way behind, California’s been referring to that as the Sea of Color for years.

SoRight on February 15, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Island of Misfit Toys…

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 11:35 AM

If we need to be PC, let’s just call it by it’s Chinese name, 日本海, or “Sea of Japan”

DarkCurrent on February 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Libdie will find the wisdom in this.

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 11:41 AM

If they are going to start giving in to every ethnic grievance they can start using “Aztlan” on their maps.

Mark1971 on February 15, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Where are the islands that China and Japan are fighting over? I have no idea, but I am so sure that ruby-red New Jersey would be so willing to put their thumbs on the CHICOM’s side of the scale that I am going to post this first and google it second.

Glenn Jericho on February 15, 2014 at 11:42 AM

NJ legislators got too much time on their hands.
They getting paid for this? $$$?

anotherJoe on February 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Why is it called ‘The Gulf Of Mexico’ when half of it is US territory? We should call it ‘The Gulf of Texas’.

Maybe Wendy can fix that.

percysunshine on February 15, 2014 at 11:45 AM

New York City will soon become De Blasiograd.

celtic warrior on February 15, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Where are the islands that China and Japan are fighting over?

Glenn Jericho on February 15, 2014 at 11:42 AM

East China Sea

DarkCurrent on February 15, 2014 at 11:46 AM

In other news, the Japanese parliament has passed a measure renaming the state of New Jersey to Fuggetaboudit.

MJBrutus on February 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

So does this mean my red state legislature can rename President Barack Obama as President Stupid Head in all their text books?

I mean… I just…

Liberals. :facepalm:

Skywise on February 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Ditto Arabian Gulf vs Persian Gulf.

slickwillie2001 on February 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM

On Monday, five New Jersey Democrats introduced a bill that would rename the sea between Japan and the Korean peninsula.

Democrats. The same idiots who, during the Cold War, like to slap “Nuclear Free Zone” on towns. Now just let the Russians even try to nuke those areas!

GarandFan on February 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Bad idea. It could cause the Sea of Japan to capsize.

WhatSlushfund on February 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM

The name “New Jersey” is offensive to people who have been oppressed by Anglo-Saxons. I am going to petition the Indiana legislature to refer to New Jersey to a more culturally aware Indian name.

tdarrington on February 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Let’s just expand the boundaries of the Yellow Sea to include the Sea of Japan. Would that be a little less racist?

rogaineguy on February 15, 2014 at 11:54 AM

The initiative was apparently pushed by a “large and politically active Korean-American community.”

So this is an issue that passes for political activism in the so called Korean-American community? I think these Korean-Americans should hop a flight back to Korea and fight this battle in Seoul. Geesh.

DaveDief on February 15, 2014 at 11:59 AM

And PM Abe has issued a statement, the contents of which follow:

I got yah Sea of Japan, ri-i-i-ight he-ah!

MJBrutus on February 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Derisive laughter. Laugh at these fools for their idiocy. So wrapped up in their own self-importance that they’ve lost it. Call them out on their stupid. Don’t tolerate this. Laugh at them. Early and often.

ss396 on February 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM

This story defines liberalism at its best. Hollow gestures that have absolutely no meaning in the real world.

bandutski on February 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM

bandutski on February 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM

While true, I would not limit that just to liberals. I’ve seen no shortage of futile, pointless grandstanding on the right as well.

MJBrutus on February 15, 2014 at 12:05 PM

In Korea, the name is East Sea. Entirely appropriate because the sea east of the Korean peninsula.

Around the world, Koreans are incensed that Japan, which oppressed Korea most recently from 1895 until 1945, are able to re-name their East Sea the Sea of Japan.

The proposed New Jersey law only requires the sea to be referred to as the East Sea, as well as, the Sea of Japan.

And the law only applies to textbooks in New Jersey and New Jersey governmental agencies.

It is a perfectly legitimate exercise of New Jersey legislative power.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

I think these Korean-Americans should hop a flight back to Korea and fight this battle in Seoul. Geesh.

DaveDief on February 15, 2014 at 11:59 AM

There is no battle in Seoul.

Everybody there knows that it is the East Sea.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM

I don’t know. I just feel like that’s too many letters. Could increase the risk of “the state and all its political subdivisions” to, you know, tip over.
Will all genders be required to refer to this sea in the same manner? I don’t know how I feel about that. I guess we’ll just have to see what one supreme court justice says about it. Well, to the extent practicable.

onomo on February 15, 2014 at 12:10 PM

MJBrutus on February 15, 2014 at 12:05 PM

I can’t argue with that but I think that it is far more a liberal problem than a conservative one.

bandutski on February 15, 2014 at 12:10 PM

The name “New Jersey” is offensive to people who have been oppressed by Anglo-Saxons. I am going to petition the Indiana legislature to refer to New Jersey to a more culturally aware Indian name.

tdarrington on February 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM

You’d have better luck taking it to Chief Warren of the Federated Anglo Faux Tribes of Massachusetts.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on February 15, 2014 at 12:11 PM

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Funny how, for the last 65 years, the great state of NJ couldn’t care what you called it. The name is old enough to collect social security! And in case you hadn’t noticed, responsibility for foreign affairs rests with our national Executive branch of government.

Just admit the obvious. Some endangered pol(s) in NJ is pandering for votes among the Korean residents of his district.

MJBrutus on February 15, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Maybe they figured that since no students in NJ schools read the textbooks, and can barely read at all, that this wasn’t much of a political bone to throw the Koreans.

WhatSlushfund on February 15, 2014 at 12:14 PM

The name “New Jersey” is offensive to people who have been oppressed by Anglo-Saxons. I am going to petition the Indiana legislature to refer to New Jersey to a more culturally aware Indian name.

tdarrington on February 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Redskiniana?

warkle on February 15, 2014 at 12:17 PM

I think that all maps in the US should use both “Maldives” and “Falkand Islands”.

Mark1971 on February 15, 2014 at 12:18 PM

In Korea, the name is East Sea. Entirely appropriate because the sea east of the Korean peninsula.

Around the world, Koreans are incensed that Japan, which oppressed Korea most recently from 1895 until 1945, are able to re-name their East Sea the Sea of Japan.

The proposed New Jersey law only requires the sea to be referred to as the East Sea, as well as, the Sea of Japan.

And the law only applies to textbooks in New Jersey and New Jersey governmental agencies.

It is a perfectly legitimate exercise of New Jersey legislative power.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

No, it’s not. Since when is the New Jersey state legislature responsible for solving Korean international disputes? Why not go full retard and call it the East Sea of Korea also since that’s what North Korea wants.

The Koreas are still butthurt because Japan kicked their butts and took over the peninsula some 100-150 years ago and that’s what this is all about.

In the meantime, New Jersey is America’s least financially stable state.

But keep tackling what’s important. You’re doing great.

Spliff Menendez on February 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

I think that all maps in the US should use both “Maldives” and “Falkand Islands”.

Mark1971 on February 15, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Yeah but how will that play in places like Peoples Republic of California? Sanctuary cities won’t like either in English at all.

onomo on February 15, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Was waiting to read that they would rename it the “Obama Sea” with the Pacific Ocean becoming the “Obama Ocean” which touches the shores of the newly renamed, “United States of Obama”….

albill on February 15, 2014 at 12:23 PM

This is a dry run, in preparation for adopting the Palestinian map of the Middle East.

BTW, it’s unconstitutional. Foreign relations is an area exclusively reserved to the federal government by the constitution.

platypus on February 15, 2014 at 12:23 PM

There is no battle in Seoul.

Everybody there knows that it is the East Sea.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM

There’s no battle in the rest of the world.

Everybody here knows that it is the Sea of Japan.

See what I did there?

Spliff Menendez on February 15, 2014 at 12:24 PM

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM

I am being frank when I say thank you for the clarification. Nevertheless, I understand the internationally accepted name is Sea of Japan. If the East Sea is a term specific to Korea so be it. I am not sure why we should set a precedent and be forced onto the path of accepting every single colloquialism beyond the the boundaries of the aggrieved territory. If it is not and East Sea is the universally accepted term then let me know that as well. In that case the Korean-Americans have an argument.

DaveDief on February 15, 2014 at 12:25 PM

BTW, it’s unconstitutional. Foreign relations is an area exclusively reserved to the federal government by the constitution.

platypus on February 15, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Well you’ll notice under the founder’s signatures, the fine print about having a pen and a cell phone. Or was that scepter and tv remote? Okay, arguably the same thing in many households.

onomo on February 15, 2014 at 12:26 PM

I lobbied to rename Lake Michigan when I lived in Wisconsin to Lake David. I too thought Michigan was racist as I was from Wisconsin. Get it? No really do you get it? Its fair No? Plenty of Davids in Mich. Wis. and Ind. so why not? No really Why not?

david kumbera on February 15, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Seems to be that Japan has the better claim, as it looks like they have more coastline along the Sea than S. Korea does…

Othniel on February 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM

We should change the name of Lake Titicaca in the interests of giggling schoolchildren everywhere.

Mark1971 on February 15, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Doesn’t anybody ever look at these “activists” and say, “Ya know, we got bigger fish to fry. Come back when you have something worth our time?”

307wolverine on February 15, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Oh no!!!

If this poor girl was confused before, this really throw for a loop.

ZeusGoose on February 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Why do they bother? All these Jersey politicians, including their governor, believe in Global Warming. Thus, soon the Polar ice caps will melt, oceans will rise, that “sea” will become an ocean, lagoon, or some other different body of water, and then they will have to change it again. Why bother then?

ptcamn on February 15, 2014 at 12:52 PM

OOPS…

Being new here, I attempted to insert a link and it apparently didn’t work.

I was referring to the Miss Teen USA 2007 contestant from South Carolina.

Any help for a noob trying to insert links?

ZeusGoose on February 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM

April 1st came early this year.

rbj on February 15, 2014 at 12:55 PM

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

derp

dmacleo on February 15, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Well, I got a jump start on all you non-politically correct racists many years ago by choosing to call the Indian Ocean the Native-American Ocean.

I don’t understand why I get so many strange looks from people when I use that term.

ZeusGoose on February 15, 2014 at 12:58 PM

In Korea, the name is East Sea. Entirely appropriate because the sea east of the Korean peninsula.

Around the world, Koreans are incensed that Japan, which oppressed Korea most recently from 1895 until 1945, are able to re-name their East Sea the Sea of Japan.

The name Sea of Japan predates 1895 and thus is the historically accurate name. Apparently the Koreans already had Virginia approve a similar law a few weeks ago. Koreans have a large politically active population in the US, unlike the Japanese.

LibertarianRepublican on February 15, 2014 at 1:03 PM

ZeusGoose on February 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Lol. That one’s a classic. Never gets old. I usually just copy and past the URL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXzjfeTlLOY

WhatSlushfund on February 15, 2014 at 1:03 PM

So this is an issue that passes for political activism in the so called Korean-American community? I think these Korean-Americans should hop a flight back to Korea and fight this battle in Seoul. Geesh.

DaveDief on February 15, 2014 at 11:59 AM

There has been a very long Korean lobbying effort on this. Given the persistence (and of course, the celebrated Multikultur), this was perhaps inevitable.

Maybe one would think that at some point Koreans will act like somebody from a developed country, not struggling former colony, but then, immigrant communities can be kinda set in their ways, anchored in the era when they left their home country.

novakyu on February 15, 2014 at 1:05 PM

In other news, the Japanese parliament has passed a measure renaming the state of New Jersey to Fuggetaboudit.

MJBrutus on February 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

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April 1st came early this year.

rbj on February 15, 2014 at 12:55 PM

.
Wow … tight competition for “thread winner”.

listens2glenn on February 15, 2014 at 1:15 PM

A group of local politicians in New Jersey would like to rewrite maps of Asia.

You know you just got go Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

whbates on February 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM

In Korea, the name is East Sea. Entirely appropriate because the sea east of the Korean peninsula.

Around the world, Koreans are incensed that Japan, which oppressed Korea most recently from 1895 until 1945, are able to re-name their East Sea the Sea of Japan.

The proposed New Jersey law only requires the sea to be referred to as the East Sea, as well as, the Sea of Japan.

And the law only applies to textbooks in New Jersey and New Jersey governmental agencies.

It is a perfectly legitimate exercise of New Jersey legislative power.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Or, if they want to use the Korean name, they could move back to Korea. Otherwise I think they would have to go through the UN. How are textbook makers supposed to pander to every aggrieved special interest group in the country?

talkingpoints on February 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Lol. That one’s a classic. Never gets old. I usually just copy and past the URL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXzjfeTlLOY

WhatSlushfund on February 15, 2014 at 1:03 PM

It’s painful to watch every time I watch it. I’m sure she must post here by the quality content of her answer. She’d fit right in with our trolls.

307wolverine on February 15, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Korea had its chance back in the 1300′s or so when it attempted to invade Japan and failed.
Wars have consequences.
Personally I think we should have renamed it “Nuked You Bay” back in 1945 as a warning to all.
Actually I’d love to see the Atlantic renamed “America’s Pond” and the Pacific renamed “America’s Ocean” with the Persian Gulf changed to America’s Gulf. The North Sea can be England’s Sea. The China Sea will be called CVN Bay.
We got the navy.
Obozo though does not have the stones.

But I digress.
Say is dog on the menu tonight at the White House?

Bubba Redneck on February 15, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Thanks, Slush…

I was trying to use the “link” tool in the comment box toolbar, but obviously that doesn’t work the way I expected.

As far as the video goes, I still ROFLMAO while watching it, but I still feel sorry for the girl.

I can’t wait to see Miss Teen USA, New Jersey in 3-4 years! Or any other victim of Common Core.

ZeusGoose on February 15, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Any help for a noob trying to insert links?

ZeusGoose on February 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Nope. You get to suffer through the initiation routine just like the rest of us did.

platypus on February 15, 2014 at 1:35 PM

It is a perfectly legitimate exercise of New Jersey legislative power.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Exactly. Who else should decide the content of textbooks (science, history, math) but LEGISLATORS with political motivations and agendas?!? That’s working out really well in California and Texas, isn’t it?!!?

:epic facepalm:

xNavigator on February 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. After all, New Jersey is also the state with a law requiring people to broom snow off their cars in the winter, after a snow storm.

mrsam on February 15, 2014 at 1:41 PM

There is no battle in Seoul.

Everybody there knows that it is the East Sea.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM

There may be no battle in Seoul but there sure is a battle for the soul of sanity in New Jersey.

oryguncon on February 15, 2014 at 1:41 PM

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

MJBrutus on February 15, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Spliff Menendez on February 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

DaveDief on February 15, 2014 at 12:25 PM

dmacleo on February 15, 2014 at 12:57 PM

LibertarianRepublican on February 15, 2014 at 1:03 PM

I was going to end the 1206 post with /sarc off

but logically, it IS a perfectly legitimate exercise of New Jersey legislative power.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Although the governor cannot actually do this, but it would a good use of his office to propose the docking of pay for legislators who waste public funds on issues not subject to the state’s jurisdiction – and this is a clear example. The voters should know about this time-wasting.

Only in the last 30 years or so have we seen this growth of overbearing self-importance in local government officials where they think their rulings on national or international issues are meaningful. “Sanctuary city” is an example of local governments acting illegally on federal matters. “Nuclear-free zones” are another case where officials are clearly are bored by their elected duties and seek other entertainment.

Cut down the hours for these representatives, or eliminate the positions completely.

virgo on February 15, 2014 at 1:45 PM

It’s painful to watch every time I watch it. I’m sure she must post here by the quality content of her answer. She’d fit right in with our trolls.

307wolverine on February 15, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I’m not so sure. Even though I’m a new commenter, I’ve been reading HotAir and a lot of the comments for years.

I would like to think the young lady in the video went back and bought better maps so she learned where “The Iraq” was, and such. But I don’t think trolls like “libplzdie” and its ilk, given Grey’s Anatomy and other information, will ever learn that the human head is not meant to be stored in that particular orifice, and such.

ZeusGoose on February 15, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Any help for a noob trying to insert links?

ZeusGoose on February 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM

ZeusGoose on February 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Lol. That one’s a classic. Never gets old. I usually just copy and past the URL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXzjfeTlLOY

WhatSlushfund on February 15, 2014 at 1:03 PM

You can also type out TEEN USA

Copy the entire link (including http)

Click on the “link” button

Paste the link into the popup making sure there is only one http at the start

Click preview to make sure it worked (it will be blue)

Then post

sharrukin on February 15, 2014 at 1:51 PM

The best governing money can buy.

Next thing you know all 1st Streets will be called Bishop.

davidk on February 15, 2014 at 1:56 PM

but logically, it IS a perfectly legitimate exercise of New Jersey legislative power.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 1:43 PM

If I were a NJ tax[ayer, I’d be right p[eeved at such a group of azzh*les.

katy the mean old lady on February 15, 2014 at 2:04 PM

So this is an issue that passes for political activism in the so called Korean-American community? I think these Korean-Americans should hop a flight back to Korea and fight this battle in Seoul. Geesh.

DaveDief on February 15, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Didn’t you get the hotair memo? Legal immigration is not only good, we need to increase the current numbers of one million legal immigrants a year. Add to that the left’s constant push for multiculturalism and you get the Balkanization of America you see today.

weathermen on February 15, 2014 at 2:08 PM

but logically, it IS a perfectly legitimate exercise of New Jersey legislative power.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Well, yeah…if their sole purpose of existence is to entertain the rest of America and provide us with belly-laughs.

Solaratov on February 15, 2014 at 2:10 PM

1 The Koreans have taken over large sections of influential Ft Lee, NJ and have been become politically active there.
2 Koreans don’t like the families of Japanese businessmen, working in New York City who also populate Ft Lee and militant Koreans have let it be known that they would cease shopping at any store that advertises with Japanese characters in newspaper ads or in its display windows.

I think it’s fair to assume that these Koreans have enough influence to bribe NJ pols to make a name change detrimental to Japan. The question I have is not the intense animosity between two Asian ethnic groups but the absurdity of the State of New Jersey to think it matters in such an international affair and how easy it is to buy off these corrupt bums.

MaiDee on February 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Obviously some school text book publisher in NJ is close friends with a democrat in the NJ state legislature.

St Gaudens on February 15, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Don’t worry. The new textbooks won’t tell them where the sea cam from in the first place.

davidk on February 15, 2014 at 2:28 PM

This would be like us Americans changing the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, or for the Texicans…the Gulf of Texas.

This is why states like California and New Jersey are going down the tubes, they worry about idiotic stuff like this. I wonder what fatboy will do.

William Eaton on February 15, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Return of the Freedom Fries!

freedomfirst on February 15, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Bubba Redneck on February 15, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Entertaining suggestions! Thank you.

freedomfirst on February 15, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Return of the Freedom Fries!

freedomfirst on February 15, 2014 at 2:43 PM

You mean ‘freedom kimchi’ right? Or perhaps a delicious meal of 보신탕.

I lived in Korea for three years. Don’t underestimate the depth of anti-Japanese feeling in Korea (and China). That it would spill over here is unsurprising. Immigrant groups bring their cultural baggage with them.

xNavigator on February 15, 2014 at 2:57 PM

NJ legislators got too much time on their hands.
They getting paid for this? $$$?

anotherJoe on February 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM

This is why TX sends its legislators home early. The less time they spend in session, the less mischief they can make.

It is a perfectly legitimate exercise of New Jersey legislative power.

slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Legitimate or not in a strictly constitutional sense, it’s a stupid waste of time. We (that is, those of us in America) have called it the Sea of Japan for a very long time. There’s nothing wrong with calling it the Sea of Japan. And, no one else in the world will understand what you’re talking about if you call it the East Sea. (It’s called the Sea of Japan because it only exists as a separate sea by being bounded by Japan; if Japan weren’t there, it would simply be the Pacific Ocean.)

If they really want to change it, they’ll have to do it the hard way – via the media (like China got us all saying “Beijing” instead of “Peking”; I still call it Peking when I can, just to make the point).

GWB on February 15, 2014 at 2:58 PM

xNavigator on February 15, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Understood.
I lived there 3 years (but as a kid). What I was too young to observe/learn back then, I’ve learned since. Japanese imperialism was brutal. Still, NJ legislators are idiots to entertain this idea.

freedomfirst on February 15, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Skywise on February 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM

I suggest “President Stompy Feet”

tngmv on February 15, 2014 at 3:10 PM

1 The Koreans have taken over large sections of influential Ft Lee, NJ and have been become politically active there.
2 Koreans don’t like the families of Japanese businessmen, working in New York City who also populate Ft Lee and militant Koreans have let it be known that they would cease shopping at any store that advertises with Japanese characters in newspaper ads or in its display windows.

I think it’s fair to assume that these Koreans have enough influence to bribe NJ pols to make a name change detrimental to Japan. The question I have is not the intense animosity between two Asian ethnic groups but the absurdity of the State of New Jersey to think it matters in such an international affair and how easy it is to buy off these corrupt bums.

MaiDee on February 15, 2014 at 2:21 PM

No bribes are necessary in this, they just threaten not to re-elect them.

The whole issue may seem stupid to many Hot Air readers but it is important to those of Korean extraction. They don’t like their kids reading about the ‘Sea of Japan’ in textbooks, any more than those of African descent like their kids attending a high school named after Nathan Bedford Forrest. In both cases, if the parties involved have sufficient voting blocs, they can threaten to throw the bums out of office and get the politicians to act on their behalf.

That’s how politics is actually supposed to work when corruption is NOT at work.

Considering the rarity of this kind of event it is no wonder there is a lot of confusion about how it could happen!

s1im on February 15, 2014 at 3:12 PM

That it would spill over here is unsurprising. Immigrant groups bring their cultural baggage with them.

xNavigator on February 15, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Except that here, our answer is (or at least used to be) – put it away. “Those” people hurt you 100 years ago way over there? Tough crap. You’re here now, and that means that unless you have a lot more current complaint, you better suck it up and drive on.

So, my answer to the Korean lobby (if they were American, they wouldn’t care what we called their ponds back home) is “If you think it’s that big a deal, then move back home; we don’t want you here if you’re going to hold paper like that.”

GWB on February 15, 2014 at 3:16 PM

s1im on February 15, 2014 at 3:12 PM

I have no issue with what you say.
I am amused that anyone believes that the action of NJ to change the name of the Sea of Japan will be adopted by others (other than schoolchildren trying to pass a test).

freedomfirst on February 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM

First they came for history, and we said nothing, then they came for geography.

Kissmygrits on February 15, 2014 at 3:28 PM

GWB on February 15, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Yep.
Our culture being diluted by all those seeking opportunities they didn’t have “back home”. If this is your new adopted home, sever your emotional ties to your previous one. You’re an American now. Be proud of it.

[By the way, take that foreign flag off your rear view mirror or your bumper sticker. You left for a reason. At least show respect for your host.]

freedomfirst on February 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM

NJ dems taking pandering to new heights.

Kissmygrits on February 15, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Except that here, our answer is (or at least used to be) – put it away.

GWB on February 15, 2014 at 3:16 PM

No longer our answer, unfortunately. The progs have taken identity-politics and pandering to a whole new level, encouraging this sort of stupidity.

xNavigator on February 15, 2014 at 3:53 PM

He Sea Who Cannot Be Named…

affenhauer on February 15, 2014 at 3:59 PM

It is well known that the expertise of Jersey politico’s knows no bounds…
Of course, their State is a complete dump, but…..

Another Drew on February 15, 2014 at 4:03 PM

“That’s how politics is actually supposed to work when corruption is NOT at work.”

Baloney! Koreans in NJ are voting citizens while Japanese NJ residents are not and this leverage is the bottom line with pols. If NJ Koreans were in more sufficient numbers, the legislators would seriously consider renaming the Atlantic Ocean the ‘Seoul Sea’.

MaiDee on February 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Koreans in NJ are voting citizens while Japanese NJ residents are not

MaiDee on February 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Huh?

GWB on February 15, 2014 at 4:40 PM

In Korea, the name is East Sea. Entirely appropriate because the sea east of the Korean peninsula.
Around the world, Koreans are incensed that Japan, which oppressed Korea most recently from 1895 until 1945, are able to re-name their East Sea the Sea of Japan.
The proposed New Jersey law only requires the sea to be referred to as the East Sea, as well as, the Sea of Japan.
And the law only applies to textbooks in New Jersey and New Jersey governmental agencies.
It is a perfectly legitimate exercise of New Jersey legislative power.
slp on February 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

You are absolutely right.

Same goes for the Dokdo Island dispute. I’m with the Koreans on this.

Anyway, Jazz’s writeup is a joke. He could have at least provided some background. To say, essentially, “I guess they found it racist or something” shows his apparent ignorance and unwillingness to explain both sides.

I applaud the Koreans for their great national pride. Speaking of Korean immigrants in the US, they have left other groups in the dust, in terms of their socioeconomic achievement.

Is this body of water name dispute the biggest deal facing NJ? Of course not. But I have no problem with people there bringing up the issue.

bluegill on February 15, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Yep.
Our culture being diluted by all those seeking opportunities they didn’t have “back home”. If this is your new adopted home, sever your emotional ties to your previous one. You’re an American now. Be proud of it.
[By the way, take that foreign flag off your rear view mirror or your bumper sticker. You left for a reason. At least show respect for your host.]
freedomfirst on February 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Sever emotional ties to previous home? Ridiculous. They are very pro-American as well as proud of Korean culture.

Korean immigrants elevate the communities they live in here and outperform all other groups. It’s not even close. I believe they’re the highest earning immigrant group in America.

Please see California cities Irvine and Fullerton and Diamond Bar and downtown LA. Schools become more competitive with more Korean students, and property values go up accordingly.

bluegill on February 15, 2014 at 4:49 PM

GWB Why the huh, huh? Most Koreans move here to stay. Most Japanese temporarily visit for business purposes. The former become voting citizens, the latter do not. Therefore in an international dispute which is NONE OF NJ’S BUSINESS FOR CONSTITUTIONAL REASONS, NJ politicians should not pander to political pressure from those with an obvious agenda just because they have voting rights.

MaiDee on February 15, 2014 at 4:59 PM

On the subject of Koreans in America, I thought it was interesting to learn that many of the largest and most active Christian student groups on American university campuses now are largely comprised of students of Korean backgrounds.

bluegill on February 15, 2014 at 5:12 PM

That it would spill over here is unsurprising. Immigrant groups bring their cultural baggage with them.

xNavigator on February 15, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Except that here, our answer is (or at least used to be) – put it away. “Those” people hurt you 100 years ago way over there? Tough crap. You’re here now, and that means that unless you have a lot more current complaint, you better suck it up and drive on.

So, my answer to the Korean lobby (if they were American, they wouldn’t care what we called their ponds back home) is “If you think it’s that big a deal, then move back home; we don’t want you here if you’re going to hold paper like that.”

GWB on February 15, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Speaking as a first generation native American I can see and have experienced both sides of this topic.
The baggage does come over but the good news is that as assimilation increases and generations of native Americans are born the baggage ends up in the history bin after 1-2 generations. Assimilation is key, though. Groups like the muzzies who resist need deportation. What folks who hyphenate their nationality forget is the term “American” in the label.

As Kirk said to his navigator in the episode ‘Balance of Terror”, “Their War Mister Skiles. Not Ours.”
(I hope I got the character name right)

It is fine to have your baggage, just not here. Go back to whatever part of the world you came from and unpack it there. Here it gets left at immigration.

Problem with the New Jersey legislature is they do not have a pair needed to tell these folks “NO”.

Bubba Redneck on February 15, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Same goes for the Dokdo Island dispute. I’m with the Koreans on this. … bluegill on February 15, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Why? According to the Treaty of San Francisco, the official U.S. policy is that the Japanese claim to Takeshima (the Japanese name of the disputed islands) would not be renounced.

From the Rusk documents describing the U.S. negotiating position: “As regards the island of Dokdo, otherwise known as Takeshima or Liancourt Rocks, this normally uninhabited rock formation was according to our information never treated as part of Korea and, since about 1905, has been under the jurisdiction of the Oki Islands Branch Office of Shimane Prefecture of Japan. The island does not appear ever before to have been claimed by Korea.”

I applaud the Koreans for their great national pride.

Do you also applaud the Japanese for theirs?

Alien on February 15, 2014 at 5:57 PM

MaiDee on February 15, 2014 at 4:59 PM

That was not clear to me on the basis of your referenced post. Thank you for clarifying.

They are very pro-American as well as proud of Korean culture.

bluegill on February 15, 2014 at 4:49 PM

They can be proud all they want. This is not pride, this is attempting to bring your grudges from your home country to here and settle/enshrine them via legislative power.

Bubba Redneck on February 15, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Yes.

GWB on February 15, 2014 at 5:58 PM

And they wonder why the rest of the country makes fun of New Jersey residents… (Floridians are telling New Jersey “Thank you!”)

We should change the name of Lake Titicaca in the interests of giggling schoolchildren everywhere.

Mark1971 on February 15, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Fully agree. The new name will be Lake Boobiecaca.

RoadRunner on February 15, 2014 at 6:27 PM

This is one politician sucking up to one of his demographics. Why does it matter to anyone else? Most states have too many legislators. I don’t know anything about New Jerseys government but why does any state need to have a bicameral legislature?

crankyoldlady on February 15, 2014 at 6:29 PM

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