Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on February 14, 2014 by Allahpundit

Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell will inevitably take a beating from his primary opponent for his vote yesterday for cloture on the debt-ceiling hike. But among many of his Capitol Hill colleagues and peers, he’s seen as a hero.

After the late-afternoon vote, McConnell headed to a meeting with senior adviser Josh Holmes. Then the two went to a National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) fundraiser at its offices on Capitol Hill. They arrived late to a room that — surprising to many, given the terrible weather — was packed with dozens of attendees. Sources say about 50 to 100 people were present and tell NRO that when the minority leader entered, he was greeted with an eruption of cheers, and that many attendees stood to applaud him.

***

Not coincidentally, activist groups allied with Mr. Cruz announced they will use those votes in GOP primaries this year against Messrs. McConnell and Cornyn. Mr. Cruz claims to be neutral in Senate primaries, but he knew exactly what he was doing.

We’re all for holding politicians accountable with votes on substantive issues, but Mr. Cruz knew he couldn’t stop a debt increase the House had already passed. He also had no alternative strategy if the bill had failed, other than to shut down the government again, take public attention away from ObamaCare, and make Republicans even more unpopular.

Democrats beat the odds and retained their Senate majority in 2010 and 2012 in part because they stuck together. If Republicans fail again this November, a big reason will be their rump kamikaze caucus.

***

I remember that Senator Cruz championed legislative tactics that resulted in the shutdown of the federal government last October. He apparently wanted another high-stakes showdown–this time over raising the debt ceiling–that would produce essentially the same result.

I remember the move he helped engineer last fall was a disaster for the GOP and harmful to the conservative cause. I remember that nothing was gained substantively. I remember that the American people, by large margins, hated the shutdown–and that the American people, by large margins, blamed Republicans for it. I remember how, thanks in good part to the shutdown, the GOP received the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992. And I remember that Senator Cruz’s tactic deflected attention from the awful rollout of healthcare.gov for several weeks, until the shutdown ended…

I remember that Senator Cruz, in the months leading up to the shutdown, accused those who disagreed with his approach of being part of the “surrender caucus.” I remember that he and those he was allied with said that if you didn’t agree with their approach you were a de facto supporter of ObamaCare. And I remember that Senator Cruz did what he did because he cared so much about being praised by populist parts of the Republican base.

I remember it was obvious the tactic Mr. Cruz was pushing was destined to fail, that he went ahead with it anyway, and that now he’d like reporters to talk about things other than his role in the government shutdown.

***

[M]any conservatives have of late demonstrated a worrying tendency to believe that the virtue of their grievances and the legitimacy of their pursuits must automatically translate into political victory — and that if these do not, that this is the fault of the leadership of the Republican party. I appreciate that this is difficult for some to hear, but I would venture that the opposite is the case. In my estimation, the only thing of which Mitch McConnell and John Boehner have been guilty in the past few years is to have worked tirelessly within political reality and to have reacted sensitively to the hands that they were dealt. The hysterical epithets and acronyms, the witless talk of the amorphous “Establishment,” and the lucrative fundraising e-mails all to one side, there is little that either man could have done differently while their party controlled just one half of one branch of government…

As during last October’s shutdown, much of the current griping from the right is predicated upon a false dichotomy of precisely the sort that those of a Burkean disposition are supposed to abhor. When a progressive stands up and compares the status quo to his best intentions — or suggests that anybody who disagrees with his preferred tactics must be against his aims, too — conservatives rightly roll their eyes and sigh knowingly. Alas, of late a number of us have fallen into precisely the same trap as tends to ensnare our friends on the Left — comparing difficult reality to promised (often wholly imagined) future victories, and celebrating how brave we are for opposing the way things currently are without outlining a workable means of changing it. There is, I’m afraid, a touch of Occupy Wall Street about much of the Right’s insurgency — an unlovely propensity to believe that if a small group just wishes hard enough for a particular outcome, it will be able to achieve it. The most risible thing I saw during my time in Zuccotti Park was the participants’ perpetually misguided belief that they were representing a silent majority. “The people united shall not be defeated,” they would cry, without doing anything at all to indicate that they were indicative of anything of the sort. I have recently encountered a similar tendency among people with whom I politically agree.

“I’d be willing to risk losing the Senate if we could keep America,” Mitch McConnell’s primary challenger, Matt Bevin, told Glenn Beck this morning. What an astonishingly incoherent and misguided sentence that is. “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” asks the King James Bible. A fair question, yes, but politics is a different game altogether, and, in this case, the alternative isn’t an otherworldly victory or spiritual advancement but simply more loss. The question for Bevin must be “for what shall it profit a man if he shall lose another debt-ceiling fight and lose his party’s shot at the Senate as well?” And the answer is “not at all.” If this is what we are to expect from the revolution — a host of nihilistic, suicidal, performance artists who would rather be outside of the control room screaming than inside and in charge — then give me the cynical calculations of a Mitch McConnell any day of the week.

***

Yet there’s not much McCain, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell or other Republicans can do to change Cruz’s behavior

In decades past, leaders could rein in such behavior by threatening to take away coveted committee assignments, withdrawing financial support, or shunning lawmakers. None of those tactics are effective in a political era in which campaign cash flows freely from outside the party machinery and cable outlets offer many ways to grab attention and influence.

In addition, the potential 2016 presidential aspirant who is aligned with the small-government Tea Party movement has demonstrated scant interest in cultivating Senate allies or building legislative coalitions, making him even more impervious to pressure from his colleagues…

For their part, Senate Republicans are “getting used to Senator Cruz’s style of operating, which is to continue to put them in very difficult positions,” said Republican strategist Ron Bonjean, who was an aide to former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott. “He is in it for a variety of reasons, but most likely in it for his future presidential ambitions.”

***

[W]hy are people dumping on Ted Cruz for the debt ceiling vote? He didn’t spend weeks saying the GOP would refuse to hike it without any strings attached. That’s what McConnell, Boehner, Ryan and the rest of the “establishment” were saying. Why is Cruz the bad guy for trying to make them live up to their commitment? It seems rather strange to get mad at the guy who pointed out the lie rather than the liars…

I looked back at the debt ceiling hikes during the Bush years (that’s as far back as I had time to check) and there were seven of them totaling $5.85 trillion in increases. Mitch McConnell voted for each and every one of them. Only in 2009 did he begin to vote against hiking the debt ceiling. I find it hard to believe that McConnell suddenly found a principled objection to ever increasing debt. It seems pretty clear his biggest problem with debt is that it’s now political expedient to be against it. Remember, then Senator Obama said hiking the debt ceiling “is a sign of leadership failure”.

***

What’s Cruz’s sin here? That he forced the GOP to be transparent about its position — a position that seems pretty reasonable considering the political realities of the situation. According to Betsy Woodruff’s reporting, most Republicans had no interest in voting for an increase. It’s preposterous to claim, no matter how often the Tea Party does, that moderate GOPers are “no better” than liberals simply because they’re losing on this issue. But if the debt ceiling isn’t a hill worth dying on – and it certainly isn’t – leadership should have explained this explicitly rather than leading on the base. It was only back in January when McConnell told the faithful on national television that some of “the most significant legislation passed in the past 50 years has been in conjunction with the debt limit. I think for the president to ask for a clean debt ceiling when we have a debt this size of our economy is irresponsible.” What McConnell should have added then is: but there’s nothing we can do about it right now. We have to work on winning more seats, and then we can stop this endless cycle of irresponsible spending

McConnell and Boehner don’t lead, they manage. And they’re about to lose the party. All fresh conservative ideas in the Senate are coming from Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio (who’s on thin ice, I know). They, like Ted Cruz, and like Senator Barack Obama before him, understand the appeal of idealism over pragmatism to those out of power. Obama voted against what is the now-sacred debt ceiling hike because he had nothing to lose and everything to gain. If you’re going to surrender, at the very least don’t make it look easy. And don’t try to cover up the terms of surrender.

Tactically speaking, playing defense forever is no long-term strategy. Yes, the establishment works tirelessly within the political realities of the day. Cruz, it seems, is more interested in changing the reality of his situation. Forcing a 60-vote threshold on the debt ceiling wasn’t only about the debt ceiling (which Cruz surely understood would be hiked), and it wasn’t only about his presidential ambitions (which he surely has), but about helping bring a bunch of Matt Bevins into the Senate and solidify his position. It’s difficult to imagine the Senate not getting more conservative.

***

At a Monday conference hosted by Heritage Action, conservatives presented the policy agenda for a center-right Republican Party.

Over nearly eight hours, Sens. Mike Lee, Ted Cruz and Tim Scott, as well as Reps. Phil Roe, Tom Graves, Tom Price, Jim Jordan, Matt Salmon, Raul Labrador and Jeb Hensarling, joined with conservative scholars and leaders to present solutions for college, health care, marriage, energy, privacy, cronyism, education, federalism and, of course, the welfare state.

Republican leadership was conspicuously absent…

“They say they want to focus on Obamacare, then push amnesty,” the strategist continued. “They say they want to tackle spending and debt and then push bills to raise both. It’s been the conservative members, outside groups and grassroots that have shown the only real leadership since Obama was elected.”

***

Many in the GOP believe Cruz is just out for himself. But even if that’s true, they have to remember that he represents more than just Ted Cruz. There are a lot of Republicans — it’s not clear how many, but a significant portion of the party’s base — that cheers Cruz on when he battles with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. They want to see a Republican throw a wrench in the Washington spending machine, even if it creates chaos and damages the GOP’s standing with independent voters. And it is that conviction that is really behind the party’s problems; it is why Republicans would not enjoy smooth sailing even if Cruz were to retire tomorrow…

In the end, the gambit accomplished nothing for Senate Republicans. Some GOP lawmakers who already disliked Cruz now dislike him even more. But the episode did remind the Republican leadership, as if it needs any reminding, that there are conservatives around the country who are deeply frustrated by the GOP and want it to show some fight.

To them, Cruz represents that fight. Maybe they’ve been misled. Maybe they’re living in a fantasy land. But that’s what they believe. Republican leaders have to keep them in mind as November approaches.

***

“If we wait on the entrenched politicians in Washington, hell will freeze over before that happens.”

Via the Right Scoop.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3 10

Boo and howdy folks! :)

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Allah must have a hot date.

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Cruz for President!!

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:03 PM

That dang Cruz. Spoiling it for the RINOs.

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Hello, Scrumpdoodlyicious.

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Fight on Senator Cruz!

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

God bless Ted Cruz!!!

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

I <3 Cruz!

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

I remember that nothing was gained substantively.

But oh, my friends and foes, what was gained symbolically! Cruz said we hate this trainwreck of a trainwreck so much we’re going to let Obama shut down the government and hurt people, just to show you how much we hate it.

John the Libertarian on February 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

I stand behind you Sen. Cruz!

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Nice bish, Scrumps.
Happy Valentine’s Day.
Enjoyed your poetry.

pambi on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Cruz represents that our fight!

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

I stand behind you Sen. Cruz!

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

You will do what stinkfish tell you to do! You will stand behind Rmoney!

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Whoa, did the weekend start early? Must be thirsty for hits…

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Maybe they are going to start doing these quote of the day threads earlier, so that it will give more commenters who wish to actually stay somewhat on-topic a chance to have a discussion, before things devolve into YouTube music video link sharing.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Whoa, did the weekend start early? Must be thirsty for hits…

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Kini just found out today that his 18 year old cat has cancer.

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

pambi on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

I was waiting like the frightened rabbit, ready to bolt for the Bish! ;)

Thank you pambi :)

Happy Valentines to you and yours :)

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

I have always had trouble with the >< symbols. What are you writing? Three Cruz' are greater than you?

crumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Does it mean you are in back of Cruz’ butt?

So confusing…

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Maybe they are going to start doing these quote of the day threads earlier, so that it will give more commenters who wish to actually stay somewhat on-topic a chance to have a discussion, before things devolve into YouTube music video link sharing.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

bluegill on January 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM

You do realize that every time you comment, the rest of us say “Bullshit” in unison.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM

I ‘heart ‘ one of my senators!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM

OT: I was passing through BOR tonight.

He and Bernie Goldberg dumped on people dumping on Costas–singling out Michelle Malkin by name.

A-holes.

BuckeyeSam on February 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Kini just found out today that his 18 year old cat has cancer.

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Man, that really sucks…

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:09 PM

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Oh go find lourdes and the two of y’all can share a room.
.
.
.
And a brain.

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Mr Lanceman, I, will do NO such thing! I will NOT stand behind that fish… ;D

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:09 PM

;D

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Mr Lanceman, I, will do NO such thing! I will NOT stand behind that fish… ;D

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:09 PM

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM

it’s my sideways Valentine for Cruz coz! Want one?

Here, just for you…

<3

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:10 PM

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Oh the irony of you going OT to post this.

RickB on February 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Very clever, I saw that earlier :)

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

bluegill on January 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM
You do realize that every time you comment, the rest of us say “Bullshit” in unison.
Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM
OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Pardon me, Cindy, but you speak for yourself, so don’t pretend to speak for “the rest of us.”
I will give my opinion whenever and however I want, whether you and the other cliquish regulars like it or not.

Same goes for you, Omaha. Sorry you don’t like it that I don’t kiss up to the small, usual bunch of rude buffoons in the QOTD thread. I will say what I think in my comments, and that’s all there is to it.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Mr Lanceman, I, will do NO such thing! I will NOT stand behind that fish… ;D

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:09 PM

;D

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Mr Lanceman, I, will do NO such thing! I will NOT stand behind that fish… ;D

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:09 PM

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

blah, blah, blah, blah, Cruz

Okay, you had me right there.

What a magnificent senator. The order has been put in for the cloning or semblance.

Not to leave out Lee as another prime example of youth, as if the truth matters for experience.

All in all, I’m worn away from the constant barrage, but still alive and knowing.

mickytx on February 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

“It’s been the conservative members, outside groups and grassroots that have shown the only real leadership since Obama was elected.”

Too bad the elites in the GOP can’t recognize this.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:12 PM

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

It was supposed to have time machine written in there somewhere.

So weird I had to do a screen grab.

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:14 PM

#WAR!

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:14 PM

bluegill on January 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM
You do realize that every time you comment, the rest of us say “Bullshit” in unison.
Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Pardon me, Cindy, but you speak for yourself, so don’t pretend to speak for “the rest of us.”
I will give my opinion whenever and however I want, whether you and the other cliquish regulars like it or not.

Same goes for you, Omaha. Sorry you don’t like it that I don’t kiss up to the small, usual bunch of rude buffoons in the QOTD thread. I will say what I think in my comments, and that’s all there is to it.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Arguing with the ghosts of year old comments. LOL

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Is this on?
*tap. tap.*

annoyinglittletwerp on February 14, 2014 at 8:17 PM

All you need to know about how effect Ted Cruz is presently, and would be as President, is: as with Palin, the RINOs fear him the most …

ShainS on February 14, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Arguing with the ghosts of year old comments. LOL

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM

It’s not exactly the fastest chub in the creek, huh.

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

I have a young military family coming over for my help, so I will see you all later!!

Play nice now ;D

* swoosh *

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Arguing with the ghosts of year old comments. LOL

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM

In’t that special, Flora. I esp. loved hagfish’ analysis of you back there… ;-)

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Come back soon!

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Sorry you don’t like it that I don’t kiss up to the small, usual bunch of rude buffoons in the QOTD thread. I will say what I think in my comments, and that’s all there is to it.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

You sure sucked up to lourdes during her latest breakdown thinking you finally had a like mind.

Well, the two of y’all could share a mind. It still wouldn’t be very good, but it would be something.

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:20 PM

It is amazing to me how bonkers Ted Cruz drives liberals.

They know he is very smart and a force to be reckoned with.

You can just see it in their faces when they go up against him on TV and interview situations or in other debates. He scares them! Dianne Feinstein was shaking as Cruz cooly confronted her on her anti-Second Amendment bill; she needed backup from some fellow Democrat dinosaur senators in attendance.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:19 PM

I’ll do my best!! Bye for now!!

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:20 PM

McConnell and Boehner don’t lead, they manage.

There’s the money quote, right there.

Cleombrotus on February 14, 2014 at 8:20 PM

#WAR!

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:14 PM

You betcha! Especially after I came across a comment made about me while I was gone in which it accused me of being “pissy” and a “bit unhinged”.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Fight on Senator Cruz!

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Too bad he is Canadian and can never be prezident. Oh well, we still have Valentines day.

SparkPlug on February 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM

I’m sick and tired of hearing this “shutdown” cr*p. 17% of Federal workers, the “non-essential” stayed home for a while, later got back-pay for not working? Why do the Feds have “non-essential” workers at all? To harass us more? Fire all the “non-essential” “workers”.

Quit letting the MSM and Dems set the terms of conversation.

Obviously the Feds are too big, they can’t even pay for themselves. Crash Diet Time. Use plain-english phrases like “spend what we take in”, “belt-tightening”, etc.

Why do we let ourselves get pilloried for speaking simple Common Sense? GO CRUZ!

Who is John Galt on February 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Mr. Cruz claims to be neutral in Senate primaries, but he knew exactly what he was doing.

Come on. There’s no way Cruz could have known that the usual suspects would demand their pound of flesh from McConnell or Cornyn. Or that Cornyn would be stupid enough to vote for it in an election year (non-election year – sure).

besser tot als rot on February 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Is this on?
*tap. tap.*

annoyinglittletwerp on February 14, 2014 at 8:17 PM

testing 12
testing 12

And now introducing Twerp for her debut at the improv.

SparkPlug on February 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Here’s the thing for both Boehner and McConnell. You don’t “lead” when you attack other members of your party instead of figuring out how to unify differing opinions behind something they can all agree to. Apparently Mitch and the orange man just did this to preclude those Tea Baggers from objecting. That, friends, isn’t leadership.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

It is amazing to me how bonkers Ted Cruz drives liberals.

They know he is very smart and a force to be reckoned with.

You can just see it in their faces when they go up against him on TV and interview situations or in other debates. He scares them! Dianne Feinstein was shaking as Cruz cooly confronted her on her anti-Second Amendment bill; she needed backup from some fellow Democrat dinosaur senators in attendance.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:20 PM

I know. I hope Ted Cruz starts a third party after establishment Republicans give him the boot in 2016. Reince Preibus has curtailed the debates and primary schedule for an establishment lackey like Jeb Bush.

Might_Is_Right on February 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Oh well, we still have Valentines day.

SparkPlug on February 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM

And Skittles.

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Any prayer warriors out there, please pray for a friend and her family. 42 yr old mother of 5, who had a heart attack on Tuesday. She is on life support. An MRI showed no brain activity today. Her oldest child is in 8th grade and 4th child’s birthday is today. Her youngest is 4. Thanks.

txmomof6 on February 14, 2014 at 8:24 PM

it accused me of being “pissy” and a “bit unhinged”.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Heh! Ickthyologist, heal thyself!

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:24 PM

txmomof6 on February 14, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Prayers ascending for the family…

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Today’s my tortie’s 14th birthday…and Spawn found out yesterday that he’ll be getting to spend a month studying this summer…in England.
Woo.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 14, 2014 at 8:25 PM

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:20 PM

I actually didn’t read any of that whole episode. I just saw that Lourdes was being attacked, and I wanted to make it clear that I often appreciate her wonderful comments on the site. It doesn’t mean that I would always agree with her on everything. But she is absolutely one of the best commenters here.

I think you should stop and ask yourself why you are always so nasty, often when it is totally uncalled for, to people like me, Lourdes, BuyDanish and others.

Now, I don’t want to continue this childish squabbling, but I do want it known that if I’m pushed around, I will push back. Thank you and have a nice day. I need to get going right now.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Too bad he is Canadian and can never be prezident. Oh well, we still have Valentines day.

SparkPlug on February 14, 2014 at 8:21 PM

I know you’re just screwing with people, but did it stop a village in Kenya from losing its Soetoro?

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:26 PM

I know. I hope Ted Cruz starts a third party after establishment Republicans give him the boot in 2016. Reince Preibus has curtailed the debates and primary schedule for an establishment lackey like Jeb Bush.
Might_Is_Right on February 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM

I disagree. I think the better course is to work from within the party. I think that is what Cruz is doing. If I recall correctly, he is totally against a third-party, since it would only help Democrats. But I can’t remember exactly what his comments on that were.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Keep up the good work, Cruz. It will take so much courage to ever get us out of this mess, and Sen. Cruz has the fortitude and ability to get us on the right track.

mobydutch on February 14, 2014 at 8:26 PM

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:19 PM

I saw that. LOL

Opened up a can of worms it’s going to choke on.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM

I saw that. LOL

Opened up a can of worms it’s going to choke on.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Oh, Goody! Rubs hands together in glee…

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM

bluegill on January 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM
You do realize that every time you comment, the rest of us say “Bullshit” in unison.
Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM
OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM


Is this the line for the nude buffoons club?

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Hope all of you fellow rude buffoons had a nice Valentine’s Day.
I’m looking forward to chocolate sales in a couple of days.
It all stays great in the frezer. Muuwahaha.
Still eating last year’s Easter batch (90% off some REALLY good stuff .. LOL)

pambi on February 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Lookit! It’s found a new friend!

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Thanks OC. On my knees.

txmomof6 on February 14, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Obama tweets plea for no ‘House of Cards’ spoilers

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Hey! He’s in California on a golfing outing. His vile spouse and the brats are in Aspen on a ski vacation. You wouldn’t want somebody to upset the royal family as they take a much deserved vacation. I mean, MY GOD! it has been a month since Mooch was sunning herself in Hawaii like the carcass of a beached whale.

They have to be fully rested through these million dollar vacations to be able to explain income inequality to us folks that can’t afford to even leave town.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2014 at 8:28 PM

OT: I was passing through BOR tonight.

He and Bernie Goldberg dumped on people dumping on Costas–singling out Michelle Malkin by name.

A-holes.

BuckeyeSam on February 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM

O’Reilly hates MM ever since the blow-up with Geraldo Rivera, who was forced to apologize (albeit a weaselly apology) on BOR’s show. MM had occasionally subbed for BOR, but she has never been on the show since that episode with Rivera. Laura Ingraham came in at that time and has been there ever since.

IrishEi on February 14, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Is this the line for the nude buffoons club?

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Heh…

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:28 PM

I actually didn’t read any of that whole episode.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:25 PM

You are an effing willingly ignorant narcissistic little troll.

Your only quality here is to stir the pot. And you admit it.

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Arguing with the ghosts of year old comments. LOL
Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM

I didn’t see the date. I had thought that Cindy was generally very polite and didn’t get involved in the squabbling, so I was surprised to see that. But, like you point out, it was an old comment, and who knows what was going on in the thread at that time.

Now this time I really am leaving. Bye, everyone!

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:29 PM

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Dang, last week you crapped on ALyT for defending you.

And now you argue with another potential ally.

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM

pambi on February 14, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Hey rude buffoon. Great to see you…

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Pardon me, Cindy, but you speak for yourself, so don’t pretend to speak for “the rest of us.”
I will give my opinion whenever and however I want, whether you and the other cliquish regulars like it or not.

Same goes for you, Omaha. Sorry you don’t like it that I don’t kiss up to the small, usual bunch of rude buffoons in the QOTD thread. I will say what I think in my comments, and that’s all there is to it.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

So take that you big Meanies!!!

Seriously, Bluegill, I find some of your commentary damn good.
Specifically on immigration….but you go Tent full of
Circus Clowns CRAZY when it comes to a certain woman being
discussed…
Tent

ToddPA on February 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM

txmomof6 on February 14, 2014 at 8:24 PO
Oh, such sad news … prayers.

Where in England, alt ???

pambi on February 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Today’s my tortie’s 14th birthday…and Spawn found out yesterday that he’ll be getting to spend a month studying this summer…in England.
Woo.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 14, 2014 at 8:25 PM


tortie?

Cat?

Child?

Turtle?

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Maybe they are going to start doing these quote of the day threads earlier, so that it will give more commenters who wish to actually stay somewhat on-topic a chance to have a discussion, before things devolve into YouTube music video link sharing.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PMMaybe they are going to start doing these quote of the day threads earlier, so that it will give more commenters who wish to actually stay somewhat on-topic a chance to have a discussion, before things devolve into YouTube music video link sharing.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Here you go:
Joe Jones, You talk too much

Doc Holliday on February 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM

I like the way Ted Cruz has flushed out the rats Weasel Boehner and Turtle McConnell like the original Stalag 13.

viking01 on February 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM

You are an effing willingly ignorant narcissistic little troll.
Your only quality here is to stir the pot. And you admit it.
cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:28 PM

No, I didn’t read any of that episode, but I have read dozens and dozens of Lourdes’ other comments over the last year here. I know she is very smart and a great writer. She makes very strong points.

Now I am going.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM

I went to a lot of senatorial forums and tea party events when Cruz was 2% in the polls. He’s done exactly what he said he was going to do. After he won the primary, I had the chance, at the opening of the new Ft. Bend County GOP HQ to shake his hand and I said, “Senator (the general was a given), when you get up there, please don’t pull a John Cornyn and forget the people that made this happen.” He said, don’t worry I won’t.

He has, as they down in these parts, danced with the ones that brung ‘em.

TxAnn56 on February 14, 2014 at 8:33 PM

I didn’t see the date.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Ignorant fool.

Now this time I really am leaving. Bye, everyone!

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Liar…again.

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Unfortunately, it will be back.

Lanceman on February 14, 2014 at 8:34 PM

txmomof6 on February 14, 2014 at 8:28 PM

.
Sent one along for a very sad situation.

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Now I am going.

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Liar…again…and again.

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:35 PM

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Think it would be sticking up for BD if it had read the comments on this thread?

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:35 PM

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Cat. She’s a dilute tortie meezer(Siamese) mix.
She’s recently started to develop the skinniness that old cats get.
I want her to be around for a lot longer!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 14, 2014 at 8:36 PM

and Spawn found out yesterday that he’ll be getting to spend a month studying this summer…in England.
Woo.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 14, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Where in England?

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2014 at 8:36 PM

I like the way Ted Cruz has flushed out the rats Weasel Boehner and Turtle McConnell like the original Stalag 13.

viking01 on February 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Did you mean Stalag 17 with William Holden? Great movie. Especially when they out Peter Graves.

TxAnn56 on February 14, 2014 at 8:37 PM

txmomof6 on February 14, 2014 at 8:24 PM

No brain activity’s not a good sign, txmom. Prayers for the family. This is gonna be hard.

Cleombrotus on February 14, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Today’s my tortie’s 14th birthday…and Spawn found out yesterday that he’ll be getting to spend a month studying this summer…in England.
Woo.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 14, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Best news I’ve heard in some time on here.

CONGATS TO YOUR SON!

ToddPA on February 14, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:35 PM

That thread was chock full of nutballs. Reminds me of the last primary.

cozmo on February 14, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Any prayer warriors out there, please pray for a friend and her family. 42 yr old mother of 5, who had a heart attack on Tuesday. She is on life support. An MRI showed no brain activity today. Her oldest child is in 8th grade and 4th child’s birthday is today. Her youngest is 4. Thanks.

txmomof6 on February 14, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Oh, that’s so sad. Prayers going up immediately.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2014 at 8:39 PM

This may take more than torches and pitchforks…

d1carter on February 14, 2014 at 8:40 PM

congRats TO YOUR SON!

ToddPA on February 14, 2014 at 8:39 PM

ToddPA on February 14, 2014 at 8:40 PM

I like the way Ted Cruz has flushed out the rats Weasel Boehner and Turtle McConnell like the original Stalag 13.

viking01 on February 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Did you mean Stalag 17 with William Holden? Great movie. Especially when they out Peter Graves.

TxAnn56 on February 14, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Stalag 13 was Hogan’s Heroes. More apt when discussing surrender weasels. I can easily see Boehner declaring “I know nothing” as he rats out the GOP to curry favor with the Nazis.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Durham.
He’s going to be participating in a dig on a Roman-era castle.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 14, 2014 at 8:40 PM

McConnell and Boehner don’t lead, they manage.
There’s the money quote, right there.

Cleombrotus on February 14, 2014 at 8:20 PM

That was a very good pithy assessment.I didn’t see who said it.

crankyoldlady on February 14, 2014 at 8:41 PM

I didn’t see the date. I had thought that Cindy was generally very polite and didn’t get involved in the squabbling, so I was surprised to see that. But, like you point out, it was an old comment, and who knows what was going on in the thread at that time.

Now this time I really am leaving. Bye, everyone!

bluegill on February 14, 2014 at 8:29 PM

You were stinking up the place crapping all over the thread spewing your vicious and venomous unhinged batshit crazy hatred. That is what was going on in that thread at the time…

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Comment pages: 1 2 3 10