Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on February 14, 2014 by Allahpundit

Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell will inevitably take a beating from his primary opponent for his vote yesterday for cloture on the debt-ceiling hike. But among many of his Capitol Hill colleagues and peers, he’s seen as a hero.

After the late-afternoon vote, McConnell headed to a meeting with senior adviser Josh Holmes. Then the two went to a National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) fundraiser at its offices on Capitol Hill. They arrived late to a room that — surprising to many, given the terrible weather — was packed with dozens of attendees. Sources say about 50 to 100 people were present and tell NRO that when the minority leader entered, he was greeted with an eruption of cheers, and that many attendees stood to applaud him.

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Not coincidentally, activist groups allied with Mr. Cruz announced they will use those votes in GOP primaries this year against Messrs. McConnell and Cornyn. Mr. Cruz claims to be neutral in Senate primaries, but he knew exactly what he was doing.

We’re all for holding politicians accountable with votes on substantive issues, but Mr. Cruz knew he couldn’t stop a debt increase the House had already passed. He also had no alternative strategy if the bill had failed, other than to shut down the government again, take public attention away from ObamaCare, and make Republicans even more unpopular.

Democrats beat the odds and retained their Senate majority in 2010 and 2012 in part because they stuck together. If Republicans fail again this November, a big reason will be their rump kamikaze caucus.

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I remember that Senator Cruz championed legislative tactics that resulted in the shutdown of the federal government last October. He apparently wanted another high-stakes showdown–this time over raising the debt ceiling–that would produce essentially the same result.

I remember the move he helped engineer last fall was a disaster for the GOP and harmful to the conservative cause. I remember that nothing was gained substantively. I remember that the American people, by large margins, hated the shutdown–and that the American people, by large margins, blamed Republicans for it. I remember how, thanks in good part to the shutdown, the GOP received the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992. And I remember that Senator Cruz’s tactic deflected attention from the awful rollout of healthcare.gov for several weeks, until the shutdown ended…

I remember that Senator Cruz, in the months leading up to the shutdown, accused those who disagreed with his approach of being part of the “surrender caucus.” I remember that he and those he was allied with said that if you didn’t agree with their approach you were a de facto supporter of ObamaCare. And I remember that Senator Cruz did what he did because he cared so much about being praised by populist parts of the Republican base.

I remember it was obvious the tactic Mr. Cruz was pushing was destined to fail, that he went ahead with it anyway, and that now he’d like reporters to talk about things other than his role in the government shutdown.

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[M]any conservatives have of late demonstrated a worrying tendency to believe that the virtue of their grievances and the legitimacy of their pursuits must automatically translate into political victory — and that if these do not, that this is the fault of the leadership of the Republican party. I appreciate that this is difficult for some to hear, but I would venture that the opposite is the case. In my estimation, the only thing of which Mitch McConnell and John Boehner have been guilty in the past few years is to have worked tirelessly within political reality and to have reacted sensitively to the hands that they were dealt. The hysterical epithets and acronyms, the witless talk of the amorphous “Establishment,” and the lucrative fundraising e-mails all to one side, there is little that either man could have done differently while their party controlled just one half of one branch of government…

As during last October’s shutdown, much of the current griping from the right is predicated upon a false dichotomy of precisely the sort that those of a Burkean disposition are supposed to abhor. When a progressive stands up and compares the status quo to his best intentions — or suggests that anybody who disagrees with his preferred tactics must be against his aims, too — conservatives rightly roll their eyes and sigh knowingly. Alas, of late a number of us have fallen into precisely the same trap as tends to ensnare our friends on the Left — comparing difficult reality to promised (often wholly imagined) future victories, and celebrating how brave we are for opposing the way things currently are without outlining a workable means of changing it. There is, I’m afraid, a touch of Occupy Wall Street about much of the Right’s insurgency — an unlovely propensity to believe that if a small group just wishes hard enough for a particular outcome, it will be able to achieve it. The most risible thing I saw during my time in Zuccotti Park was the participants’ perpetually misguided belief that they were representing a silent majority. “The people united shall not be defeated,” they would cry, without doing anything at all to indicate that they were indicative of anything of the sort. I have recently encountered a similar tendency among people with whom I politically agree.

“I’d be willing to risk losing the Senate if we could keep America,” Mitch McConnell’s primary challenger, Matt Bevin, told Glenn Beck this morning. What an astonishingly incoherent and misguided sentence that is. “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” asks the King James Bible. A fair question, yes, but politics is a different game altogether, and, in this case, the alternative isn’t an otherworldly victory or spiritual advancement but simply more loss. The question for Bevin must be “for what shall it profit a man if he shall lose another debt-ceiling fight and lose his party’s shot at the Senate as well?” And the answer is “not at all.” If this is what we are to expect from the revolution — a host of nihilistic, suicidal, performance artists who would rather be outside of the control room screaming than inside and in charge — then give me the cynical calculations of a Mitch McConnell any day of the week.

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Yet there’s not much McCain, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell or other Republicans can do to change Cruz’s behavior

In decades past, leaders could rein in such behavior by threatening to take away coveted committee assignments, withdrawing financial support, or shunning lawmakers. None of those tactics are effective in a political era in which campaign cash flows freely from outside the party machinery and cable outlets offer many ways to grab attention and influence.

In addition, the potential 2016 presidential aspirant who is aligned with the small-government Tea Party movement has demonstrated scant interest in cultivating Senate allies or building legislative coalitions, making him even more impervious to pressure from his colleagues…

For their part, Senate Republicans are “getting used to Senator Cruz’s style of operating, which is to continue to put them in very difficult positions,” said Republican strategist Ron Bonjean, who was an aide to former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott. “He is in it for a variety of reasons, but most likely in it for his future presidential ambitions.”

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[W]hy are people dumping on Ted Cruz for the debt ceiling vote? He didn’t spend weeks saying the GOP would refuse to hike it without any strings attached. That’s what McConnell, Boehner, Ryan and the rest of the “establishment” were saying. Why is Cruz the bad guy for trying to make them live up to their commitment? It seems rather strange to get mad at the guy who pointed out the lie rather than the liars…

I looked back at the debt ceiling hikes during the Bush years (that’s as far back as I had time to check) and there were seven of them totaling $5.85 trillion in increases. Mitch McConnell voted for each and every one of them. Only in 2009 did he begin to vote against hiking the debt ceiling. I find it hard to believe that McConnell suddenly found a principled objection to ever increasing debt. It seems pretty clear his biggest problem with debt is that it’s now political expedient to be against it. Remember, then Senator Obama said hiking the debt ceiling “is a sign of leadership failure”.

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What’s Cruz’s sin here? That he forced the GOP to be transparent about its position — a position that seems pretty reasonable considering the political realities of the situation. According to Betsy Woodruff’s reporting, most Republicans had no interest in voting for an increase. It’s preposterous to claim, no matter how often the Tea Party does, that moderate GOPers are “no better” than liberals simply because they’re losing on this issue. But if the debt ceiling isn’t a hill worth dying on – and it certainly isn’t – leadership should have explained this explicitly rather than leading on the base. It was only back in January when McConnell told the faithful on national television that some of “the most significant legislation passed in the past 50 years has been in conjunction with the debt limit. I think for the president to ask for a clean debt ceiling when we have a debt this size of our economy is irresponsible.” What McConnell should have added then is: but there’s nothing we can do about it right now. We have to work on winning more seats, and then we can stop this endless cycle of irresponsible spending

McConnell and Boehner don’t lead, they manage. And they’re about to lose the party. All fresh conservative ideas in the Senate are coming from Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio (who’s on thin ice, I know). They, like Ted Cruz, and like Senator Barack Obama before him, understand the appeal of idealism over pragmatism to those out of power. Obama voted against what is the now-sacred debt ceiling hike because he had nothing to lose and everything to gain. If you’re going to surrender, at the very least don’t make it look easy. And don’t try to cover up the terms of surrender.

Tactically speaking, playing defense forever is no long-term strategy. Yes, the establishment works tirelessly within the political realities of the day. Cruz, it seems, is more interested in changing the reality of his situation. Forcing a 60-vote threshold on the debt ceiling wasn’t only about the debt ceiling (which Cruz surely understood would be hiked), and it wasn’t only about his presidential ambitions (which he surely has), but about helping bring a bunch of Matt Bevins into the Senate and solidify his position. It’s difficult to imagine the Senate not getting more conservative.

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At a Monday conference hosted by Heritage Action, conservatives presented the policy agenda for a center-right Republican Party.

Over nearly eight hours, Sens. Mike Lee, Ted Cruz and Tim Scott, as well as Reps. Phil Roe, Tom Graves, Tom Price, Jim Jordan, Matt Salmon, Raul Labrador and Jeb Hensarling, joined with conservative scholars and leaders to present solutions for college, health care, marriage, energy, privacy, cronyism, education, federalism and, of course, the welfare state.

Republican leadership was conspicuously absent…

“They say they want to focus on Obamacare, then push amnesty,” the strategist continued. “They say they want to tackle spending and debt and then push bills to raise both. It’s been the conservative members, outside groups and grassroots that have shown the only real leadership since Obama was elected.”

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Many in the GOP believe Cruz is just out for himself. But even if that’s true, they have to remember that he represents more than just Ted Cruz. There are a lot of Republicans — it’s not clear how many, but a significant portion of the party’s base — that cheers Cruz on when he battles with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. They want to see a Republican throw a wrench in the Washington spending machine, even if it creates chaos and damages the GOP’s standing with independent voters. And it is that conviction that is really behind the party’s problems; it is why Republicans would not enjoy smooth sailing even if Cruz were to retire tomorrow…

In the end, the gambit accomplished nothing for Senate Republicans. Some GOP lawmakers who already disliked Cruz now dislike him even more. But the episode did remind the Republican leadership, as if it needs any reminding, that there are conservatives around the country who are deeply frustrated by the GOP and want it to show some fight.

To them, Cruz represents that fight. Maybe they’ve been misled. Maybe they’re living in a fantasy land. But that’s what they believe. Republican leaders have to keep them in mind as November approaches.

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“If we wait on the entrenched politicians in Washington, hell will freeze over before that happens.”

Via the Right Scoop.


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Marvelous Mark Levin interview with Ted Cruz linked above. Everyone reading this now should give it a listen.

Ted Cruz has a very effective manner of speaking. He knows just went to add a dramatic touch. I believe I read he used to be an actor, and I think that his dramatic delivery skills are really underrated. We all know about his intellect and fearlessness, but he also has that added touch that makes you want to hear what he’s going to say next.

bluegill on February 15, 2014 at 2:17 AM

Enough of this damned topic unrelated chit-chat…

oscarwilde on February 15, 2014 at 2:18 AM

Another snowy… err rainy night…

oscarwilde on February 15, 2014 at 2:19 AM

Another snowy… err rainy night…

oscarwilde on February 15, 2014 at 2:19 AM

Crap…

oscarwilde on February 15, 2014 at 2:20 AM

Marvelous Mark Levin interview with Ted Cruz linked above. Everyone reading this now should give it a listen.

Ted Cruz has a very effective manner of speaking. He knows just went to add a dramatic touch. I believe I read he used to be an actor, and I think that his dramatic delivery skills are really underrated. We all know about his intellect and fearlessness, but he also has that added touch that makes you want to hear what he’s going to say next.

bluegill on February 15, 2014 at 2:17 AM

Wanted to get this on the new comment page. I was so impressed after listening to that.

bluegill on February 15, 2014 at 2:22 AM

Another rainy night…

oscarwilde on February 15, 2014 at 2:27 AM

Is anybody listening?

bluegill doesn’t count… ;p

oscarwilde on February 15, 2014 at 2:29 AM

Oops, time for bed…

oscarwilde on February 15, 2014 at 2:46 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsClj04oIE

boom boom …out goes the lights..!!

going2mars on February 15, 2014 at 3:01 AM

Bible students will understand: http://cdn.themetapicture.com/media/funny-bump-door-silver-case-letter-Hebrew.jpg

(Click to enlarge.)

davidk on February 15, 2014 at 3:44 AM

Well, bless your heart little one.

http://youtu.be/Wns6U7HEAes

g’nite

31giddyup on February 15, 2014 at 4:02 AM

CRUZ CONTROL in 2016!

To rein in the O-chaos.

profitsbeard on February 15, 2014 at 4:07 AM

Volkswagen workers at Tennessee factory reject United Auto Workers union by vote – @washingtonpost

davidk on February 15, 2014 at 5:32 AM

He also had no alternative strategy if the bill had failed, other than to shut down the government again, take public attention away from ObamaCare, and make Republicans even more unpopular.

The WSJ is a pathetic publication. Whatever unpopularity that would have been incurred by sticking to their guns after Obama shut down the government the first time would have blown over in weeks and the Democrats’ tactic of holding a gun to the baby’s head would have been eliminated forever.

Buddahpundit on February 15, 2014 at 5:45 AM

Think I might have to have my own buy-back event:

His company has been “part of buybacks in San Francisco, Oakland, and San Jose.” At each of these events GunByGun paid “$100 for most guns and $200 for assault weapons.” Johnstone’s company acquired about 500 guns, which it “destroys…with the help of law enforcement agencies.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/14/Private-Company-Funds-Buybacks-To-Acquire-Destroy-Firearms

davidk on February 15, 2014 at 6:02 AM

We tried to tell you.

davidk on February 15, 2014 at 6:02 AM

But my applehead is enjoying a winter’s nap on clean cat blankets.

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 1:45 AM

Your cat sleeps at night?

crankyoldlady on February 15, 2014 at 6:12 AM

It’s morning in western Ohio. Last night they said it would be 7 degrees but this morning it’s 18. Can’t even trust the meteorologists. ______insert depressed look for Oscar.

crankyoldlady on February 15, 2014 at 6:40 AM

Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell will inevitably take a beating from his primary opponent for his vote yesterday for cloture on the debt-ceiling hike. But among many of his Capitol Hill colleagues and peers, he’s seen as a hero.

Therein lies the problem. McConnell is praised for breaking every single one of his campaign promises, while Cruz is demonized for keeping his. Can this country be anymore upside down? Now, the stock markets are freaking out if the Fed stops pumping money, but that will mean devaluing our dollar and making our savings worthless

Brock Robamney on February 15, 2014 at 7:02 AM

Now, the stock markets are freaking out if the Fed stops pumping money, but that will mean devaluing our dollar and making our savings worthless

I’m sorry if any of you are traders but I don’t feel a bit sorry for the stock market gamblers. They’re part of the problem. Too many people are making money by making money. They don’t manufacture anything or provide a service or sell anything. They need to get a real job.

crankyoldlady on February 15, 2014 at 7:16 AM

So happy Palin supported Cruz in his run for Senate.

Bmore on February 15, 2014 at 7:17 AM

I suppose there are RINOs running against.

crankyoldlady on February 15, 2014 at 7:23 AM

Now, the stock markets are freaking out if the Fed stops pumping money, but that will mean devaluing our dollar and making our savings worthless
I’m sorry if any of you are traders but I don’t feel a bit sorry for the stock market gamblers. They’re part of the problem. Too many people are making money by making money. They don’t manufacture anything or provide a service or sell anything. They need to get a real job.
crankyoldlady on February 15, 2014 at 7:16 AM

You’re a trader. Don’t you have a savings account of some kind? Don’t you go to the store and buy goods and services? The Fed pumping money affects EVERYONE. Pumping money causes inflation. Making EVERYTHING more expensive. This is not about just people playing in the Ponzi scheme stock market. This is about corporatists encouraging bad behavior by the Government

Brock Robamney on February 15, 2014 at 7:34 AM

Your tax dollars at work: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-boland/planned-parenthood-settles-2-million-case-after-botched-abortion

“Meh. Just another dead dog.”~thuja

davidk on February 15, 2014 at 7:40 AM

Brock Robamney on February 15, 2014 at 7:34 AM

I didn’t say I was in favor of the fed pumping money. The whole system is going to crash one of these days and they all know it but just keep on doing the same destructive things. I just have a simple savings account. The interest on it is just slightly more than zero. I don’t owe anybody. I would suggest that everyone do whatever it takes to protect your money. My brother owns a small business. They paid off their house and the business recently. I don’t know if that will save them but it’s a good thing to do.

crankyoldlady on February 15, 2014 at 7:56 AM

Happy Saturday, Patriots! And, Trolls.

Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.

– Ronald Reagan

My take: Fascism in an Age of “Redefining”

kingsjester on February 15, 2014 at 8:04 AM

I’m sorry if any of you are traders but I don’t feel a bit sorry for the stock market gamblers. They’re part of the problem. Too many people are making money by making money. They don’t manufacture anything or provide a service or sell anything. They need to get a real job.

crankyoldlady on February 15, 2014 at 7:16 AM

We know what the stock market does when there is a threat of a shutdown, and the traders there are not wrong to be concerned. If the Tea Party gets its way (in the long run it must), the stock market could be cut in half.

It is not about irresponsible trading. Traders have been responding rationally to the government’s perverse incentives.

Responsible government isn’t always pleasant. Certainly not in the short term after a period of recklessness. Hangovers after particularly wild benders can be a real bitch, and the bender we’ve been on is historically unprecedented.

fadetogray on February 15, 2014 at 8:04 AM

Choice:

The genius of the Left — Chavez’s for example — is that it destroys things from the inside out. They pervert religion, collapse the mores, abolish the family, shred the constitution and gradually expropriate the property. The differences from one day to the next are apparently imperceptible, but it is harder and harder to go back until finally there is no reversal of ‘progressive gains’ possible at all. The public is finally faced with the stark choice between chaos or authoritarianism. And most people will chose the Boss over the Mob.

http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2014/02/13/postmortem/

davidk on February 15, 2014 at 8:05 AM

So happy Palin supported Cruz in his run for Senate.

Bmore on February 15, 2014 at 7:17 AM

Morning B. Yes, he even says that he wouldn’t be in the Senate today if it wasn’t for Sarah Palin. I bet statements like that makes somebody’s head explode. ;-)

Flora Duh on February 15, 2014 at 8:06 AM

Flora Duh on February 15, 2014 at 8:06 AM

Mornin’, ma’am! and Bmore!

I would imagine that it does. LOL!

kingsjester on February 15, 2014 at 8:11 AM

Cruz & allies proposal was to fund the whole budget except the train wreck we all knew was Obamacare. The talking head RINOsy who risked breaking limbs racing to the microphones weren’t able to explain that to the public. They didn’t have the spine to say that Obama was praying for the shutdown opportunity to defer attention from all the scandals his WH is under. They failed to warn the public that Obama will do this repeatedly as long as the Corrupt Liberal Media is running cover. This is a man that vacations in Africa after warning the people of the horrors of a shut Dow. GOP lack the eloquence & salesmanship of a Trump to express the horrors of Obama.

RdLake on February 15, 2014 at 8:17 AM

GOP lack the eloquence & salesmanship of a Trump to express the horrors of Obama.

RdLake on February 15, 2014 at 8:17 AM

but when they attack Social Conservatives, the eloquence and salesmanship increases 1000 fold.

renalin on February 15, 2014 at 8:21 AM

kingsjester on February 15, 2014 at 8:11 AM

Good morning kj. Great take you have this morning.

RdLake on February 15, 2014 at 8:17 AM

Hear! Hear!

Flora Duh on February 15, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Flora Duh on February 15, 2014 at 8:23 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on February 15, 2014 at 8:26 AM

God bless Ted Cruz. If he runs for POTUS in 2016, he has my vote.

itzWicks on February 15, 2014 at 8:28 AM

Dear Drudge,

Please, please please take that picture of Hillary down.

Signed,

The Whole World

Fathom on February 15, 2014 at 8:33 AM

Fathom on February 15, 2014 at 8:33 AM

I say from now on just post the picture of her in the geeky awkward stage

Brock Robamney on February 15, 2014 at 8:51 AM

I’m TIRED of Bronco Bama!

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Ratso is driving me nutz this AM…

OmahaConservative on February 15, 2014 at 9:14 AM

I’m TIRED of Bronco Bama!

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Heh, I remember that. Cute kid, wonder if her mother’s grown tired of Bronco Bama too?

Flora Duh on February 15, 2014 at 9:17 AM

Ratso is driving me nutz this AM…

OmahaConservative on February 15, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Welllll, you did have his cut off. :-)

Flora Duh on February 15, 2014 at 9:19 AM

touché…

OmahaConservative on February 15, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Fathom on February 15, 2014 at 8:33 AM
I say from now on just post the picture of her in the geeky awkward stage

Brock Robamney on February 15, 2014 at 8:51 AM

Man, anything would be better than the current one…. she looks like a scarecrow made of human skin.

Fathom on February 15, 2014 at 9:33 AM

It is not about irresponsible trading. Traders have been responding rationally to the government’s perverse incentives

I don’t think traders are irresponsible. They are usually good at it and the odds are better than the lottery. I’m saying they should be doing something more productive. Something to benefit the economy.

crankyoldlady on February 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Man, anything would be better than the current one…. she looks like a scarecrow made of human skin.
Fathom on February 15, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Can you imagine the crap storm from the left? That would be a bonus

Brock Robamney on February 15, 2014 at 10:08 AM

bluegill on February 15, 2014 at 2:22 AM

Heh…
Pulling a Lourdes I see. Commenting on your own posts…

OmahaConservative on February 15, 2014 at 10:13 AM

libfreeordie on February 15, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Yes, libdie. And oat bran/nicotine/coffee/ (insert substance du jour here) are good for preventing cancer/diabetes/the vapors/dumdum fever/the staggers/jungle rot, etc.

And global warming is settled science too.

Tell you what, libdie, let’s take a trip down to Hunan Gardens, get a bag of fortune cookies and plan out the rest of your week.

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Gay gene discovered.

libfreeordie on February 15, 2014 at 10:31 AM

That’s good news. I didn’t know he was missing.

Flora Duh on February 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM

ell you what, libdie, let’s take a trip down to Hunan Gardens, get a bag of fortune cookies and plan out the rest of your week.

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Your entire day is constructed by techological advancements discovered via the scientific method. And yet, when it is politically convenient, you throw away the scientific method and claim it is “arbitrary.” Please. You experience the efficacy of the scientific method everytime you turn on a water faucet, walk down stairs, turn on a car, turn on a light bulb, watch television, use a phone, get on the internet to post to a political blog, use the bathroom. Everything you eat and drink, literally the chemical composition of your body is a testament to the scientific method.

But on climate, an issue which so happens to ask corporations to cut profits, we are all going to throw scientific consensus away. It is utter and complete madness. And you don’t even see how you have been manipulated by corporations. The power of your denial is incredible.

libfreeordie on February 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Cruz for Valentine’s Day–sweet. And I missed it.

jazzuscounty on February 15, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Your entire day is constructed by techological advancements discovered via the scientific method. And yet, when it is politically convenient, you throw away the scientific method and claim it is “arbitrary.” Please. You experience the efficacy of the scientific method everytime you turn on a water faucet, walk down stairs, turn on a car, turn on a light bulb, watch television, use a phone, get on the internet to post to a political blog, use the bathroom. Everything you eat and drink, literally the chemical composition of your body is a testament to the scientific method.

But on climate, an issue which so happens to ask corporations to cut profits, we are all going to throw scientific consensus away. It is utter and complete madness. And you don’t even see how you have been manipulated by corporations. The power of your denial is incredible.

libfreeordie on February 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

F-

Murphy9 on February 15, 2014 at 12:57 PM

And you don’t even see how you have been manipulated by corporations. The power of your denial is incredible.

libfreeordie on February 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

We are quite aware of how the input data on climate was manipulated.

There are ample records of it.

That says nothing about scientific method and everything about political human nature.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on February 15, 2014 at 1:16 PM

“Beautiful World”

Bmore on February 15, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Your entire day is constructed by techological advancements discovered via the scientific method. And yet, when it is politically convenient, you throw away the scientific method and claim it is “arbitrary.” Please. You experience the efficacy of the scientific method everytime you turn on a water faucet, walk down stairs, turn on a car, turn on a light bulb, watch television, use a phone, get on the internet to post to a political blog, use the bathroom. Everything you eat and drink, literally the chemical composition of your body is a testament to the scientific method.

But on climate, an issue which so happens to ask corporations to cut profits, we are all going to throw scientific consensus away. It is utter and complete madness. And you don’t even see how you have been manipulated by corporations. The power of your denial is incredible.

libfreeordie on February 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Yes, libdie, I sure do. It’s called ‘independent thought’. Look into it sometime.

Part of growing up is being able to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.

So. Homosexuality is now yet another bread and circus we may manipulate the masses. Hey! Let’s make it political! Let’s make it an agenda. After all, if it wasn’t for those lousy ‘cons, queers would be able to loooove each other! It’s about loooove, you lousy socons! And those queers cannot looove unless they’re allowed to maaaarrrry! Hey! Let’s throw ‘money’ at some ‘scientists’ and they’d better come to the conclusion we want or else no more money!

Are you really this fvckin’ obtuse, libdie?

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 2:22 PM

But on climate, an issue which so happens to ask corporations to cut profits, we are all going to throw scientific consensus away. It is utter and complete madness. And you don’t even see how you have been manipulated by corporations. The power of your denial is incredible.

libfreeordie on February 15, 2014 at 12:32 PM

‘Climate Change’ is not science…it is a manifestation of a new religion.

zoyclem on February 15, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Are you really this fvckin’ obtuse, libdie?

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 2:22 PM

So you’re argument is the gay mafia secretly controls all the current research on biology and sexual orientation? You’re basically a gay mafia Truther at this point.

libfreeordie on February 15, 2014 at 2:36 PM

libfreeordie on February 15, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Do you realize how fvcking stupid you sound? Ever? Does it ever occur to you?

This is you, libdie:

When it’s hot out, it’s because of gloooobal waaarming.
When it’s cold out, it’s because of gloooobal waaarming.
When it’s rainy out, it’s because of gloooobal waaarming.
If there’s 30 feet of snow on Sugarloaf Mountain in Appalachia, it’s because of gloooobal waaaarming.

Not a goddamned bit of incredulity in you. Ever.

Unless it involves a Republican.

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 2:49 PM

I liked Cruz in the beginning but he is now an albatross around the neck of the GOP. His recent comments on gay marriage puts him in the Akins camp of pols so out of step with the American people, he will drag down our 2016 nominee with his silliness. One of the reasons we lost in 12 was the media hanging the wingnuts like Akins and Santorum around romney’s neck. Gay marriage is here to stay and the majority of Americans have come around to that fact. Real conservatives and libertarians are on board. We have a healthy group called log cabin republicans who help with fundraising. Why in the world is Cruz relitigating this? It’s not 2000 anymore. He needs to stop alienating conservatives ho want the party put of social policy.

fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

God bless Ted Cruz. If he runs for POTUS in 2016, he has my vote.

Yeah you a a few million social cons. Cruz has turned into a Rick Santorum and that’s a shame. He has entered Akins territory with his anti gay remarks.

fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Real conservatives and libertarians are on board. We have a healthy group called log cabin republicans who help with fundraising.

Is this thing for real?

sodomites are the real libertarians?

good grief.

Murphy9 on February 15, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Is this thing for real?

sodomites are the real libertarians?

good grief.

If you’re running for preacher of your church, go for it. But your religion of hate should not be public policy. Why do you want govt. Telling you who you can marry? Counting the days for the social cons to finally die out so the GOP has a shot of inning a national election

fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 4:15 PM

livefreeoffotherswork got hit in the head by Michael Mann’s crooked hockey stick data. Left it in a state of denial of facts.

Kook Koolaid Krap

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM

CO2 is a plant food.

Do not fear the wheat, corn, milo, soy bean crops being fed CO2.

Do fear the commie Earth First freaks who want you dead.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM

has entered Akins territory with his anti gay remarks.

fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM

You know, if you’d actually learn how to spell name of those you hate, you’d come across as just a tad more intelligent.

It’s Akin. Todd Akin. Not Akins. Not Aiken. Not Aikens. Not Elkins. Not Eichmann. Akin.

I’m surprised you were able to spelled fish stick correctly.

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 4:37 PM

fishbreath, why do you constantly miss letters in your posts?

Something in your keyboard?

The only hate I see is the Dan Savage wing of the sodomite agenda army calling for violence against those who are against his destructive and unhealthy agenda.

Murphy9 on February 15, 2014 at 4:59 PM

You know, if you’d actually learn how to spell name of those you hate, you’d come across as just a tad more intelligent.

So misspelling the man’s name negates my point? Why don’t you run along and provide editing and spell checks for all the comments. Should keep you busy and prevent you from posting more nonsense.

fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM

fishbreath, why do you constantly miss letters in your posts?

Something in your keyboard?

iPad issues. What the heck is a sodomite? Anyone who doesn’t follow your sense of right and wrong when it comes to sex? Why don’t you post a list of do’s and dont’s so we can all get on board.

fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 5:03 PM

fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM

No, it ordinarily would not negate a point. But I get that “I comment at Yahoo News’ vibe from you.

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Counting the days for the social cons to finally die out so the GOP has a shot of inning a national election

fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Does This Pass As Your Religion Of Tolerance Comment?

Bmore on February 15, 2014 at 6:01 PM

When will we rid ourselves of fake conservatives and go back to Goldwater and Reagan who did t want the govt. In our bedroom or are lives. Social cons use use religion to make law are nothing more than zealots trying to make the United States a Taliban run nation. Homosexuality may be a sin according to your religion but we don’t make laws based on your religion. We strive for equality for all. So go to church, preach your hate and leave the rest of us alone. Try being a real conservative and preach for less govt. intrusion, not more.

fishstick on February 9, 2014 at 11:28 AM

The olde socon taliban schtick.

Murphy9 on February 15, 2014 at 6:20 PM

No, it ordinarily would not negate a point. But I get that “I comment at Yahoo News’ vibe from you.

So twice you commented and twice you failed to address the issue. Maybe one of your grandkids will come out and you can address the point then.

fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Does This Pass As Your Religion Of Tolerance Comment?

Bmore on February 15, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Awful nice of a democrat voter to hope the GOP wins an election.

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Does This Pass As Your Religion Of Tolerance Comment?

You’re the one talking about religion. I am talking about intolerance and ignorance from those who use religion as an excuse to hate. The majority of republican voters now believe that gays should have the same rights as straights. Your group of haters are shrinking and will soon die out. Hopefully by 2016.

fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 6:31 PM

Stop the haaaaate! You’re full of haaaaaate! Haaaaaate is not a family vaaaaalue!

Lanceman on February 15, 2014 at 6:37 PM

The majority of republican voters now believe that gays should have the same rights as straights.
fishstick on February 15, 2014 at 6:31 PM

Don’t they? I mean, a straight man can marry a woman, and a gay man can marry a woman — the same rights, right?

Alien on February 15, 2014 at 8:21 PM

So,….fishstick kinda hate is okay though. Got it.

Bmore on February 15, 2014 at 10:25 PM

fishstick

Bmore on February 15, 2014 at 10:38 PM

socon music.

Murphy9 on February 15, 2014 at 10:41 PM

When the gene is identified for being responsible for homosexuality. I will bet the first couple to abort the baby will be leftists.

Bmore on February 16, 2014 at 9:27 AM

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