Pelosi: No, there won’t be a mandate delay for the little people because this is sound policy

posted at 7:21 pm on February 14, 2014 by Mary Katharine Ham

A variation on the “you’re gonna love it once it’s fully enacted” chorus of fibs we’ve been hearing since this thing was passed in 2009. It isn’t really news, per se, that Rep. Nancy Pelosi is willing to support a pass for employers for this law that doesn’t go to individuals about to be hit with the mandate tax. It’s not news that she’s willing to ignore the many failings of the law and its implementation and refer to it as utterly “sound policy,” even as the worst Jenga tower every constructed is crumbling before her. But it is illustrative of the Democratic plan to put blinders on and say “but, but, we passed a law!” when faced with the unfairness of the system they’ve created and the waivers they’re granting. It’s also illustrative of how lazy an answer Democrats offer on this stuff. “It’s a totally different issue,” she says. Well, that settles that. Enjoy your sound policy. Unless their sound policy took your formerly sound policy away.

For more on the lazy answer front see this from Sen. Joe Manchin, who thinks we should delay the whole thing. Imagine that!

“You’re just picking and choosing,” the West Virginia Democrat said of the administration’s decision. “First it’s basically the large employers, then it’s medium groups, then it’s 50 to 100 — medium-sized. If there’s a problem, there’s a problem.” He said there’s bipartisan support for legislation postponing the implementation of the entirety of the Affordable Care Act until 2015. “We’re sure in a transition period and they keep changing the dates,” the senator said, frustrated. “So I wish everyone would come to grips.”

Sen. Barbara Mikulski, via Betsy Woodruff, who does push the senator and gets more silliness:

“I think it’s more important than we get it done right than fast,” she told NRO. “So I support the president’s decision. Typically these businesses that have to negotiate and — so I support the president’s decision.”

When I asked her if she thought it was valid to argue that delaying the employer mandate but not the individual one favors companies over individuals, she said, “I think I support the president’s initiative.”

And, Sen. Jon Tester:

“You know, it’s probably the right thing to do,” he told NRO. “I mean, he probably looked at some metrics that caused him to make that decision. The rollout was rocky, everybody knows that.”

These are the people writing the “sound policy” that would shape a sixth of the American economy. What could go wrong (that hasn’t already)?


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I loathe pugugli…

ladyingray on February 14, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Embrace the suck.

pambi on February 14, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Kneel before Zod…

22044 on February 14, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Really, you guys opened up registration on this site at precisely the worst time. I’ve really run out of things to say about these unapologetic douche bags.

I’m beginning to think Let. It. Burn. might just be a marginally better policy than trying to fight what clearly cannot be stopped.

To hell with these people, starting with that self-righteous, intellectually dishonest, wealthier-than-thou dipsh*t in a pant suit up in NoCal.

Eric in Hollywood on February 14, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Policy about as sound as Pelosi’s deranged brain.

VorDaj on February 14, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Hubris unfounded…

OmahaConservative on February 14, 2014 at 7:33 PM

9 out of 10 morticians say botox rots the brain.

VorDaj on February 14, 2014 at 7:34 PM

“I think it’s more important than we get it done right than fast,”

Where was that pragmatism when Nancy was telling us we had to pass it to find out what was in it?
No one in Congress cared about getting it right, it was a mad dash to get it passed on Christmas Eve.

Congress could have given the President the discretion to decide the mandatory compliance dates…they didn’t because the CBO wouldn’t have been able to score it properly.

airupthere on February 14, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Completed Pelosi quote (paraphrased for your convenience) – “After all, the little people don’t give our campaigns nearly the amount of money the big rent-seekers like the unions and corporations that know what’s good for them do.”

Steve Eggleston on February 14, 2014 at 7:34 PM

“I think it’s more important than we get it done right than fast”

Right and fast – two words that never fit next to the word government.

VorDaj on February 14, 2014 at 7:37 PM

As a friend who escaped the PRK categorized Nancy Pelosi:
“A perfect waste of skin.”

Missilengr on February 14, 2014 at 7:37 PM

“You know, it’s probably the right thing to do,” he told NRO. “I mean, he probably looked at some metrics that caused him to make that decision. The rollout was rocky, everybody knows that.”

By metrics, he of course means poll numbers.

Lost in Jersey on February 14, 2014 at 7:38 PM

No, there won’t be a mandate delay for the little people because this is sound policy

MEDUSA speaks!

dmann on February 14, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Typically these businesses that have to negotiate and — so I support the president’s decision.”

I like her logic, and Mikulski is supposed to be one of the smart ones.

slickwillie2001 on February 14, 2014 at 7:42 PM

Will Obamacare be repealed or won’t it? Will Congress fund it or won’t it? Will the web site be fixed or not? Blah, blah, blah. We the people just need to do what we need to do and Congress be damned. Resist. Refuse. Revolt. EXEMPT OURSELVES! We did not comply with Prohibition and we simply should not comply with Obamacare. For religious reasons. For privacy reasons. For the cause of liberty and freedom and in protest of the idea that the federal government (under one party rule, no less), can force private citizens to purchase anything with our own money. Are we citizens or subjects? Mice or (wo)men? Just say NO to socialism and to the corrupt, unionized, far left IRS: the gestapo of America’s political class. After all, the federal government ignores millions of illegals who are breaking U.S. immigration law every day. Our Founders pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor. All we have to do is just say no to a scheme we all know is un-American and a violation of our most basic founding fundamentals of privacy, self reliance, limited government and individual freedom.
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devan95 on February 14, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Steve Eggleston on February 14, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Quote of the week,maybe the month.
Pelosi in that clip confirms she is insane and a coward by refering to a spokesman to bail her out.

docflash on February 14, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Nancy nancy nancy, just how do you sleep at night.

I know, in a drunken stupor, that way you can think your conscience is clear.

Well, let me tell ya biotch, it ain’t and never should be.

I sure as heck hope that when you go to meet your Maker, and when he asks you about your conscience, that the millions you have hurt along the way, are also standing in line for their answers as to why you are the human being you are.

Nancy, how do you square everything that you have done?

You can’t possibly, ever….

Scrumpy on February 14, 2014 at 7:44 PM

So will the roughly 19,500 likely ILLEGAL aliens in Nancy Pelosi’s Congressional District of the Sanctuary City of San Francisco, that the city officially knows about, have to pay the penalty/tax for not having qualified health insurance?

Or is that penalty/tax only for U.S. Citizens and Legal Residents?

The roughly 19,500 Healthy San Francisco participants who aren’t eligible to move into the Covered California exchange or Medi-Cal are likely to include many undocumented immigrants or others who don’t meet federal guidelines.

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2013/07/healthy-san-francisco-related-program.html?page=all

wren on February 14, 2014 at 7:50 PM

How anyone could vote for this arrogant, selfish, lying miserable excuse for a woman is beyond my comprehension. Yet here she is in all her gory glory; one of the elite democrat “leadership”, no less.

Good grief.

hillbillyjim on February 14, 2014 at 7:55 PM

“I’m dreaming of a veto-proof Senate…”

John the Libertarian on February 14, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Why, if this law was the savior of the land with respect to covering all the uninsured, is this law being delayed in any respect? Bring it on Democrats. Don’t cower behind Obama’s skirt to cover your arses from the voters wrath. Stand up. Make those declaratory statements you made when you voted for this disaster. Run on Obamacare you cowards. Tell your constituents how much it is saving them in healthcare costs. Tell them they can keep their plan, their doctor, and their senator that brought this bountiful abundance of garbage. Tell them you feel their pain. Then, after that, bend over and kiss your career of “public servant” goodbye.

Irish Stout on February 14, 2014 at 7:58 PM

“I’m dreaming of a veto-proof Senate…”

John the Libertarian on February 14, 2014 at 7:57 PM

R or D? Not like it matters…

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canopfor on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

hey, everybody! winter in TX… hurry 100F, yay!

As for Nan. Wow (been stated before) we are a ship of fools and I want off.

mickytx on February 14, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Just….. Just…Just, awww F*CK IT! I can`t take you anymore! *storms off*

ThePrez on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Pelosi: No, there won’t be a mandate delay for the little people because this is sound policy
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“The Little People”,….ugh,…Pelosium Strikes Again!

canopfor on February 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Such is the downside for Democrats of electing a House leader from the safest of safe Blue districts. Nancy can only get in trouble with her core voters in San Francisco by sounding rational about ObamaCare’s problems and recognizing the need for a delay in the individual mandate to help other Democrats in less secure districts or states this November.

But she’s in a district where Cindy Sheehan primaries er for being too conservative in 2008. Pelosi’s pushing on straight into the iceberg, because she knows as long as she maintained her current heading, she’s got a lifeboat in perpetuity, even if other Democrats end up in the frozen water.

jon1979 on February 14, 2014 at 8:22 PM

For more on the lazy answer front see this from Sen. Joe Manchin, who thinks we should delay the whole thing. Imagine that!

“You’re just picking and choosing,” the West Virginia Democrat said of the administration’s decision. “First it’s basically the large employers, then it’s medium groups, then it’s 50 to 100 — medium-sized. If there’s a problem, there’s a problem.” He said there’s bipartisan support for legislation postponing the implementation of the entirety of the Affordable Care Act until 2015. “We’re sure in a transition period and they keep changing the dates,” the senator said, frustrated. “So I wish everyone would come to grips.”

There might even be MORE bipartisan support for postponing the implementation of the entirety of the ACA until 2017. How ’bout it, Joe?

Steve Z on February 14, 2014 at 8:30 PM

obama’s ONLY interest is to realize the demise of America and Western capitalism as envisioned by his own father that he expressed in ‘ Dreams From My Father ‘. He is like the shop-keeper Leland Gaunt in ‘Needful Things’ – He’s a stranger with a murky past who sets up a curio shop, and convinces assorted townsfolk that he has what they want. But what they actually get is something altogether different. Envy, division, and hatred ensue, leading to death and destruction. ” MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” , obama.

jsned on February 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM

So Nanzi want the “little people” to pay high premiums for Obamacare. Not rich vineyard owners like herself.

How many want to join a “Little People Against Rich B!tch Pelosi” party? We can start by boycotting her wine…

Steve Z on February 14, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Ah, but they are of the ‘elite intelligentsia’! THEY know what is best for everyone else!

GarandFan on February 14, 2014 at 9:13 PM

If the policy is that “sound”, then YOU should dispense with your waiver.

When are you signing-up, Nancy ?

listens2glenn on February 14, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Most poisonous politician in congress.

Murphy9 on February 14, 2014 at 9:23 PM

This woman is lower than DogSh*t lying on the sidewalk.

ToddPA on February 14, 2014 at 9:25 PM

I must repeat a comment from just after the “Christmas gift to America” was passed:
“This woman couldn’t be stupider if her head fell off.”

wutzupdak on February 14, 2014 at 9:31 PM


This woman is lower than DogSh*t lying on the sidewalk.

ToddPA on February 14, 2014 at 9:25 PM

no need to insult dogsh*t on the sidewalk

roflmmfao

donabernathy on February 14, 2014 at 10:21 PM

Well, there is at least one thing San Fran Nan excels at.

She can come up with more ways to say “f**k you” in answer to a reality-based question than even The One.

clear ether

eon

eon on February 14, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Does anyone notice that it seems like that Nancy P. is the Speaker of the House????? Seems like we hear from here daily and what does Bonner do,,,, sleep, tan or drink or all of the above. I wish he would speak out against the demos like he is supposed to do. Same with that chinless guy in the Senate who is the minority leader.

garydt on February 14, 2014 at 10:36 PM

The irony here is so thick…You could make a house out of it.

After the unfathomable immediacy of Dems to ram this through our supposedly Bi-Cameral house, and the ridiculous insistency they should “Pass it so we can find out what’s in it”; after they sneak it through on a technicality,…at midnight on a Christmas eve…on a full moon;

NOW we need to ‘slow down and take a closer look’?

If only Dr. Hannibal Lecter had the same taste for hypocrisy he did rudeness…

a5minmajor on February 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM

They have adult children, who are out in the world making a good living because of there powerful parents. They should be confronted and questioned about how they got their positions. Make them defend their parents. See where that goes. These people have no problem stripping your children of their healthcare,making their children answer for it is not unreasonable.

Thicklugdonkey on February 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Conform!

schmuck281 on February 14, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Sen. Barbara Mikulski, via Betsy Woodruff, who does push the senator and gets more silliness:

“I think it’s more important than we get it done right than fast,” she told NRO. “So I support the president’s decision. Typically these businesses that have to negotiate and — so I support the president’s decision.”

When I asked her if she thought it was valid to argue that delaying the employer mandate but not the individual one favors companies over individuals, she said, “I think I support the president’s initiative.”

Businesses have to negotiate? And the supports the presidents decision how? Oh that’s right, Obama has never negotiated anything, so yeah, it would confuse him…geezz

No wonder she “thinks” she supports the president’ initiative, cause she sure as heck can’t understand it!

MnCoyote on February 14, 2014 at 11:49 PM

…so why isn’t that clip…played 24/7…and dissected by the MSM?…………hmmmmmmmmmm…

KOOLAID2 on February 15, 2014 at 12:30 AM

Nancy Pelosi shorter: Embrace the suck!

BelleStarre on February 15, 2014 at 12:33 AM

“I think it’s more important than we get it done right than fast”

Heh. They’re going to fail on both.

trigon on February 15, 2014 at 1:43 AM

When it takes you longer to implement than it does to win World War II, you may want to reconsider.

Pearl Harbor (12/7/41) to V-J Day (9/2/1945) was 1365 days.

John Deaux on February 15, 2014 at 7:48 AM

Inner Party member Pelosi: No, there won’t be a mandate delay for the little people proles and Outer Party members because this is sound policy, and ignorance is strength. Pravda!

The fact that this woman has gotten elected time and again, has gotten immensely rich from her “public service”, and is still there points to the fact that Americans at large deserve exactly what we’re getting.

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 15, 2014 at 8:29 AM

Gosh I can’t stand this woman. Embrace the suck. I want to throw up.

crosshugger on February 15, 2014 at 8:38 AM

She is actually paid to sound that stupid.

crosshugger on February 15, 2014 at 8:40 AM

Per Sen. Tester:

The rollout was rocky, everybody knows that.

This is pure horsesh!t. It implies that the only thing wrong with Obamacare is the botched website when everyone now knows the whole thing is one big steaming pile.

flipflop on February 15, 2014 at 8:55 AM

‘pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it’

That’s what I call a stool sample.

Jocundus on February 15, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Must be me, I can never make sense out of what Pelosi sputters.

ctmom on February 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM

Sorry Nan the founders never intended for someone to pursue their joy on my dime. You want to experience joy by becoming a Gay Cowboy Jazz Poet do it on your dime. Liberty is not liberty from want or need. It is liberty to pursue both on your own.

hunthjof on February 15, 2014 at 11:26 AM

The “right thing to do” would be repeal obamacare. Alas, I’m beginning to believe The Great American Experiment” has failed. This is not the America I grew-up in.
“A Republic, if you can keep it.” ~ BF

lel2007 on February 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Question: How is Obamacare like a stool sample?

Nancy Pelosi: We must pass it, before you can know what’s it in.

In fairness, she did warn us!

LouisianaLightning on February 15, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Nancy Pelosi has made me rethink my whole “no violence against senior citizens” stance for years now. She is the most insufferable woman in the earth. There are so many things I wish upon this woman but won’t write.

UnstChem on February 15, 2014 at 2:48 PM

The Chief Traitor, John Benedict Roberts must be proud!

RJL on February 15, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Are you a ding bat OR moon bat?

mmcnamer1 on February 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM

I just can’t tell

mmcnamer1 on February 16, 2014 at 12:19 AM

The real reason common people are not exempt is that they do not contribute enough money to the political war chests, corporations do. I hope these people remember this at election time, that is if the elections are not already rigged .

savage24 on February 16, 2014 at 8:38 PM