GOP firm’s poll: McConnell in statistical tie with Democrat in Kentucky, leads Bevin by 42 points in primary

posted at 4:01 pm on February 14, 2014 by Allahpundit

Similar to last week’s lackluster result from Survey USA. Unless Bevin catches fire, looks like the best-case scenario for the GOP is an exhausting dogfight to the bitter end between McConnell and Grimes that sucks in untold millions of establishment dollars aimed at protecting the Senate minority leader. Again — that’s the best-case scenario. The worst-case scenario, that that dogfight ends in decisive defeat, comes from Sean Davis:

Three of the four Kentucky polls taken so far this year have come from left- or right-leaning pollsters but the topline numbers have been roughly consistent. Two have McConnell up by one, one has the race a dead heat, and the fourth has Grimes up by four. Today’s data, as Davis notes, may be overstating McConnell’s support, if anything. Survey USA had his favorable rating at 27/50, which makes sense given that the entirety of the left and now a sizable chunk of the right consider him an enemy. Wenzel Strategies, the pollster behind this morning’s data, has his favorables at 50/47, which makes … less sense. This race may become for the GOP establishment what Wendy Davis’s race is for abortion warriors — an exceedingly challenging cause celebre that sucks money away from more winnable races.

Solution: Nominate Matt Bevin instead? He does roughly as well against Grimes as McConnell does (trailing by two instead of leading by one) and some polls have shown him outperforming him in the general against her. The risk would be that, as an unknown, he’d be easier for Democrats to define and marginalize than a bigger name like Mitch the Knife, but then that was also true of Rand Paul circa 2010 and he did okay. And yet, despite conservative groups attacking McConnell relentlessly, he still leads Bevin 59/17 in the new Wenzel data and 55/29 in Survey USA’s data last week. Why is that? I get that he’s still all but unknown to voters, but that shouldn’t matter this much; he’s running as Not Mitch McConnell, after all. You don’t need to know his name to signal your preference for ousting McConnell in a poll.

This isn’t helping either:

Matt Bevin, campaigning for Kentucky’s Senate seat in the Republican primary, said his signature on a document expressing support for the 2008 Wall Street bailouts was just a formality. But legal experts — including Bevin’s own lawyer — are dismissing the excuse.

“As a general matter if you put your signature on anything you would be at least acknowledging you don’t have a major issue with the content,” Wade R. Bridge, the attorney listed on Bevin’s 2008 filing, told Breitbart News…

“It may be true that he signed as a CEO but it would be an odd thing for a CEO to disagree with a letter that he signed and sent to the company’s shareholders or a filing that was made with the SEC,” [Cornell law prof Charles] Whitehead told Breitbart News…

Several sources told Breitbart News that the SEC would consider that the signators of the cover letter are attesting to its contents.

Securities law experts said the same thing to National Review and the Weekly Standard. (“If you express an opinion you do not hold, you violate the securities laws.”) Either Bevin’s lying when he says he opposed TARP from the beginning or he’s telling the truth but ended up on the wrong side of proper securities practice. Probably won’t matter to Not Mitch McConnell voters, but as time wears on, I think tea-party voters increasingly look at primary challengers from the following baseline: “Is this guy more Mike Lee or more Christine O’Donnell?” I.e. is this someone worth risking a seat Republicans already hold on or is this someone likely to implode in the general? Bevin’s TARP position won’t matter a bit after the primaries, but I bet he’s on a shorter leash in some GOP voters’ minds in terms of permissible mistakes than he would have been if he was running in 2010 or 2012.

Exit question: Let’s say McConnell leads Bevin by three points with a week to go before the primary and he tells Rand Paul he badly needs him to come home and do some campaigning. What does Rand do?


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Still don’t think he’ll lose.

But I’ll be ecstatic if he does.

It will be an important first step toward removing the current leadership and recapturing the GOP.

Art Vandelay on February 14, 2014 at 4:04 PM

GOP firm’s poll?

Amjean on February 14, 2014 at 4:04 PM

That Wenzel poll is crap. It has nearly 50 % of general election voters over 60 years old which just happens to be who McConnell does the best with.

dforston on February 14, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Rand probably does it–let’s be realistic. Politics is all about deals and quid pro quos.

But I doubt it will be that close.

Art Vandelay on February 14, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Dear Kentucky,
We know it’s Valentine’s Day and everything, but it’s time we had a talk. After nearly 30 years, it’s time we broke up with Mitch.

We know, we know. It all seemed so great when we first met. Remember when he promised us good-paying jobs and strong leadership? Remember when he promised he’d never forget about us–even though he was moving all the way to Washington, DC?

Well, here we are, all these years later, and nothing’s changed. We’re still waiting for that jobs plan and every time we needed him to stand up and lead, he’s never around. Sometimes, it feels like he cares more about playing games with his friends in Washington than he does about us here in Kentucky.

So this Valentine’s Day, let’s do what we should have done a long time ago: Break up with Mitch.

Thanks for standing up,

Team Switch
Alison for Kentucky

Might_Is_Right on February 14, 2014 at 4:07 PM

It is absolutely insane he was ever chosen as the face of the Republican Senate. Even Collins or Murkowski would have been preferable.

Marcus on February 14, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Exit question: Let’s say McConnell leads Bevin by three points with a week to go before the primary and he tells Rand Paul he badly needs him to come home and do some campaigning. What does Rand do?

Come on. There’s no way this primary gets within 3 points. Ever. There have been ads on TV since last September and voters have made their minds up by now. The primary is just over 100 days from now. Unless McConnell literally gets caught with a dead girl or a live boy, he’s winning the primary going away.

I think the close polls with him and Grimes are a function of the massive amount of mud that has been thrown at McConnell and the lack of anything up about her. She is a lightweight in the extreme, was forced into the race by desperate Democrats, and will wilt under the scrutiny of a real campaign against McConnell. As I said, the primary is in May and he will have all summer and fall to pound her and she will have to stand up to a lot more scrutiny for the next 5 months than she has the last 5.

rockmom on February 14, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Why I WILL NOT vote for McConnell: a Senate with him as majority leader won’t be an improvement.

ConstantineXI on February 14, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Wenzel Strategies, the pollster behind this morning’s data, has his favorables at 50/47, which makes … less sense. This race may become for the GOP establishment what Wendy Davis’s race is for abortion warriors — an exceedingly challenging cause celebre that sucks money away from more winnable races.

Solution: Nominate Matt Bevin instead? He does roughly as well against Grimes as McConnell does (trailing by two instead of leading by one) and some polls have shown him outperforming him in the general against her.

That solution would probably do it. Unlike McConnell who is a known quantity (and not in a good way per polling), Bevin would give the GOP a fresh bite at the apple… and by getting rid of McConnell, would make conservatives around the country happier knowing that one of the establishment’s old guard would be going away.

I hold McConnell in far less contempt than most other HotAir posters, and fault him for far fewer betrayals. But Bevin appears to be as conservative as McConnell, at least at first glance, and gives us a better opportunity to retain the seat with more upside potential and opportunity to establish a better rapport with the voters of Kentucky.

Stoic Patriot on February 14, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Maybe I’m overly jaded – ok, I am – but I’m having a hard time remembering instances where conservatives were cheering for McConnell having made one whiff of a f*ck of a difference in terms of stemming the momentum of the leftward lurch.

Midas on February 14, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Gotta be honest, even if it costs a Senate seat… I do not want Mitch back in 2015.

Ukiah on February 14, 2014 at 4:15 PM

dforston on February 14, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Not only that, but the party breakdown appears a little off as well… D – 53.4%, R – 37.6%, and I – 9%.

Between the age / party breakdowns, I can’t put a lot into this poll.

The exit question is a good one. Rand has endorsed McConnell, and did so before McConnell had a primary challenger. Now that he has a primary challenger, and there is a growing call for new GOP Congressional Leadership, will Rand remain loyal to McConnell?

Or will Rand quietly and privately make the suggestion to McConnell that this might be the time to retire?

Athos on February 14, 2014 at 4:15 PM

I just don’t see McConnell (or Bevin for that matter) losing in Kentucky. McConnell might be unpopular in Kentucky, but Obama is much more unpopular and it’s going to be hard for any Democrat to distance themselves from Obama enough win a statewide senate race there. In 2004 Bunning was portrayed as an old man that suffered a mental breakdown and he still won reelection. The Democratic Party in Kentucky was also much stronger in 2004 than it is now.

midgeorgian on February 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Exit question: Let’s say McConnell leads Bevin by three points with a week to go before the primary and he tells Rand Paul he badly needs him to come home and do some campaigning. What does Rand do?
===============================================

Rand will probably call Mitch, and say his schedule is
jammed up, but will reiterate, that……

….he’s an Important Ally, Sumpin Sumpins!!

canopfor on February 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM

The close polls with Grimes are the bleed of voters who are sticking with Bevin. Chickens coming home to roost and all that.

Johnnyreb on February 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Team Switch
Alison for Kentucky

Might_Is_Right on February 14, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Grimes propaganda?

thebrokenrattle on February 14, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Let’s say McConnell leads Bevin by three points with a week to go before the primary and he tells Rand Paul he badly needs him to come home and do some campaigning. What does Rand do?

When the call comes there is only one answer……… Senor Paul No Aqui!

Seriously, why should Paul, who is clearly gunning for a Presidential run, hitch his wagon to getting McConnell re-elected in the Commonwealth of Kentucky? Isn’t the sinkhole under the National Corvette Museum enough without trying to prop up the one Republican that got something out of the government shutdown?

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Rand Paul is already on board with McConnell’s re-election. He’s not stupid.

This drumbeat of anti-McConnell sentiment is asinine. McConnell is a brilliant parlimentarian tactician, delivered the sequester which Dems loathed for 3 years, and, most importantly, held the entire GOP caucus together on Obamacare notwithstanding immense pressure from the MSM, Obama, Reid, K Street, and the entire DC Establishment to give the Obamacare monstrosity the patina of bipartisanship.

There is not a single poster on HA who could hold together a battered, fractured caucus of 40 free agents at its lowest point in a generation better than McConnell. These free agents ranged from Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, and George Voinovich on one end to Jeff Sessions, Jim Inhofe, and Jim Demint on the other. ALL of them were pressured to BREAK, especially the moderates.

If anyone here thinks that was an easy task in the face of once-in-a-generation immense hostility, then you are tremendously naive.

McConnell held them together.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Midas on February 14, 2014 at 4:14 PM

in one moment of desperation he made the correct call on sequestration…and then reversed it

DanMan on February 14, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Might_Is_Right on February 14, 2014 at 4:07 PM

ROFLMAO…yeah let’s replace the turtle with someone as dumb as a brick who’s only claim to fame is riding her daddy’s coat-tails.

HumpBot Salvation on February 14, 2014 at 4:20 PM

If Kentucky re-elects McConnell, they’re dumber than I thought.

Left_is_Wrong on February 14, 2014 at 4:22 PM

This drumbeat of anti-McConnell sentiment is asinine. McConnell is a brilliant parlimentarian tactician…

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Yeah, that’s it.

tetriskid on February 14, 2014 at 4:23 PM

If anyone here thinks that was an easy task in the face of once-in-a-generation immense hostility, then you are tremendously naive.

what’s he done lately? undercutting conservative inertia is all he does now, he appears to be not one of us

DanMan on February 14, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Similar to last week’s lackluster result from Survey USA. Unless Bevin catches fire, looks like the best-case scenario for the GOP is an exhausting dogfight to the bitter end between McConnell and Grimes that sucks in untold millions of establishment dollars aimed at protecting the Senate minority leader.

You know if the winner, whoever it is, is exhausted by a mere primary, then they are both suspect going into the general.

Shouldn’t this give Mitch a chance to sharpen up his campaign and handily defeat an upstart? Plus get State-wide name recognition going again and appeal to the voters who used to support him by showing he is the ‘same old Mitch’?

If you can’t stand the primary, don’t bother running.

ajacksonian on February 14, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Athos on February 14, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Kentucky, like most southern states have a large democrat population, but they are DINOs for the most part. Still doesn’t stop them from voting for democrats on a state and sometimes national level.

NWConservative on February 14, 2014 at 4:24 PM

If we pick up 9 seats but lose 1 in KY because Bevin runs it would still be a good day and it would put the rest of them on notice that if they don’t perform properly they will be next. The tax payers have had enough.

smitty41 on February 14, 2014 at 4:25 PM

tetriskid on February 14, 2014 at 4:23 PM

ouch! thread winner

results are what matters, parliamentarian tactics have given us horrible results

DanMan on February 14, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Why I WILL NOT vote for McConnell: a Senate with him as majority leader won’t be an improvement.

ConstantineXI on February 14, 2014 at 4:12 PM

You bring up the GOP’s bigger problem.

In 1994, Newt got the Speakership with a clear set of principles called the Contract with America. In 2014, do we really have any sort of a sense of what the GOP would do with majorities in both houses of Congress? I would suggest that we do not. I’d be happier if the GOP could articulate three things they would do between 2015 and 2017 that require Congressional majorities. And, BTW, “repeal Obamacare” or “restore fiscal responsibility” are way too vague and meaningless to count.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2014 at 4:25 PM

If it comes to that, and the GOP looks otherwise to be picking up the Senate by a comfortable margin, Tea Partiers might want to think about voting for Grimes to keep McConnell from becoming Majority Leader.

PersonFromPorlock on February 14, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Still don’t think he’ll lose.

But I’ll be ecstatic if he does.

It will be an important first step toward removing the current leadership and recapturing the GOP.

Art Vandelay on February 14, 2014 at 4:04 PM

With Lamar Alexander, a McConnell clone, to take over as leader. Much more has to be done than removing the leadership.

rickv404 on February 14, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Bevin would lose the general, just like Murdock in Indiana.

Mitch has the money and the machine to take Grimes apart.

Anybody who thinks a GOP majority travels thru Mr Bevin is smoking Colorado Gold.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:30 PM

I just don’t see McConnell (or Bevin for that matter) losing in Kentucky. McConnell might be unpopular in Kentucky, but Obama is much more unpopular and it’s going to be hard for any Democrat to distance themselves from Obama enough win a statewide senate race there. In 2004 Bunning was portrayed as an old man that suffered a mental breakdown and he still won reelection. The Democratic Party in Kentucky was also much stronger in 2004 than it is now.

midgeorgian on February 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM

I agree. How in the hell can Grimes win in a deep red state where Obama is incredibly unpopular(yes, I know Mitch is too) and Obamacare and the economy are going to be key issues in the Senate races this fall? Everyone who pulls the lever for Grimes knows exactly what they’re getting. A vote for the Obama/Reid agenda. Anyone who deludes themselves into believing otherwise makes the low information voter look like a candidate for MENSA.

Would I love to see McConnell bounced in the primary and replaced in the Senate by Bevin? Yes. But seeing as how that’s a long shot given these primary polls, that leaves us with two realistic outcomes. One, McConnell wins the primary but loses the general election, costing the GOP a Senate seat which will be filled by a libtard who rubber stamps everything Obama wants. Two, McConnell wins the primary and gets re-elected in the general and we’re stuck with his sorry pseudo-conservative ass for 6 more years.

I’m never a fan of picking your poison, but how can anyone opposed to Obama seriously prefer the former over the latter? And don’t give me any crap about how sweet it would be to see McConnell lose. Honestly it won’t mean much for us if he’s knocked off by a liberal Democrat in Kentucky. That actually hurts the conservative cause IMO far more than it helps.

Doughboy on February 14, 2014 at 4:30 PM

McConnell held them together.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM

I agree. Circular firing squads are rarely productive. When Hot Air posters intone that there’s no difference between having McConnell lead the majority or Reid lead the majority, I can’t figure out if it’s hyperbole or if people really are that blinded. Case in point:

Why I WILL NOT vote for McConnell: a Senate with him as majority leader won’t be an improvement.

ConstantineXI on February 14, 2014 at 4:12 PM

limecat on February 14, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Why I WILL NOT vote for McConnell: a Senate with him as majority leader won’t be an improvement.

ConstantineXI on February 14, 2014 at 4:12 PM

You are mistaken and I hope you will change your mind. McConnell will make Obama’s life a Living Hell and, more importantly, controlling the Senate will help protect the GOP presidential nominee in 2016, whether he be a governor or senator.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Shouldn’t the establishment set McConnell aside and tell him to drop out?

El_Terrible on February 14, 2014 at 4:34 PM

People are getting ready to pull a Honda and vote for the Democrat? All righty then.

thebrokenrattle on February 14, 2014 at 4:35 PM

dforston on February 14, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Not only that, but the party breakdown appears a little off as well… D – 53.4%, R – 37.6%, and I – 9%.

Between the age / party breakdowns, I can’t put a lot into this poll.

The exit question is a good one. Rand has endorsed McConnell, and did so before McConnell had a primary challenger. Now that he has a primary challenger, and there is a growing call for new GOP Congressional Leadership, will Rand remain loyal to McConnell?

Or will Rand quietly and privately make the suggestion to McConnell that this might be the time to retire?

Athos on February 14, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Actually the party reflects what the party registration is in KY. Lots of very conservative Democrats in KY.

dforston on February 14, 2014 at 4:35 PM

I hold McConnell in far less contempt than most other HotAir posters, and fault him for far fewer betrayals. But Bevin appears to be as conservative as McConnell, at least at first glance, and gives us a better opportunity to retain the seat with more upside potential and opportunity to establish a better rapport with the voters of Kentucky.

Stoic Patriot on February 14, 2014 at 4:14 PM

In that case, all things being equal, I would tend towards McConnell due to his seniority. Would you rather have Cornyn in charge? Bevin would be a freshman and years away from a leadership position.

Jeff Weimer on February 14, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Don’t care if traitor McConnell loses to a Dem. Open traitors are better opponents than backstabbing closet traitors like this one.

SirGawain on February 14, 2014 at 4:36 PM

When Hot Air posters intone that there’s no difference between having McConnell lead the majority or Reid lead the majority, I can’t figure out if it’s hyperbole or if people really are that blinded. Case in point:

Why I WILL NOT vote for McConnell: a Senate with him as majority leader won’t be an improvement.

ConstantineXI on February 14, 2014 at 4:12 PM

limecat on February 14, 2014 at 4:31 PM

That would be a lot more impressive point if you had included the significant differences that McConnell would make.

Oddly you didn’t do that?

sharrukin on February 14, 2014 at 4:36 PM

You are mistaken and I hope you will change your mind. McConnell will make Obama’s life a Living Hell and, more importantly, controlling the Senate will help protect the GOP presidential nominee in 2016, whether he be a governor or senator.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:32 PM

McConnell celebrating over raising the debt ceiling yet again (while deceptively trying to hide his vote) does not inspire confidence.

The year after year of “Oh, we will stop stealing and wasting your money next term.” is getting a little weak.

tetriskid on February 14, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Is it too late to pull for Puffy Face Judd and her psychological support dog, Shug? She would’ve made a fine Senator.

ramesees on February 14, 2014 at 4:37 PM

McConnell will make Obama’s life a Living Hell….

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:32 PM

And just when exactly is McConnell planning on doing these mean things to Obama?

And why hasn’t he been doing them up til now?

sharrukin on February 14, 2014 at 4:38 PM

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Ah yes, the vote for (R) no matter what argument.

McConnell has proven beyond any doubt at all, that he’s been in D.C. far too long.

He’s also proven beyond any doubt, that he’ll stab Conservatives in the back every chance he gets.

He’s also proven beyond any doubt, that he has no principles. He’s willing to raise taxes, further explode the debt, unwilling to do what is necessary to END ObamaGlitch, AND do Obamnesty.

He sounds more like a DimocRat actually.

Left_is_Wrong on February 14, 2014 at 4:39 PM

I find it hard to believe Bevin is trailing that badly. Even if McConnell wins the primary, I can’t see Kentucky voters electing a D with Barry so unpopular there.

I want Bevin to win the primary, but in any case can’t see Grimes winning the general.

cat_owner on February 14, 2014 at 4:39 PM

There are some interesting Mobys on the HA boards these days, BTW. Soros pays people to sow disharmony on HA. Wow. I hope it scares you Mobys, that your masters are scared of us. :)

ramesees on February 14, 2014 at 4:39 PM

This race may become for the GOP establishment what Wendy Davis’s race is for abortion warriors — an exceedingly challenging cause celebre that sucks money away from more winnable races.
Solution: Nominate Matt Bevin instead? He does roughly as well against Grimes as McConnell does (trailing by two instead of leading by one) and some polls have shown him outperforming him in the general against her. The risk would be that, as an unknown, he’d be easier for Democrats to define and marginalize than a bigger name like Mitch the Knife, but then that was also true of Rand Paul circa 2010 and he did okay.

.
Odds of the GOPe actually doing what they have been telling the Tea Party to do – “Suck it up and take one for the team.”

17,300,000,000,000 to 1

… and going UP as fast as the National Debt.

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2014 at 4:39 PM

sucks in untold millions of establishment dollars aimed at protecting the Senate minority leader.

Why spend millions on a sinking ship that’s not going to last long anyway? Why not spend it on someone new? Oh, yeah. Cronyism, which always beats doing the right thing in politics.

RoadRunner on February 14, 2014 at 4:41 PM

This drumbeat of anti-McConnell sentiment is asinine. McConnell is a brilliant parlimentarian tactician, delivered the sequester which Dems loathed for 3 years, and, most importantly, held the entire GOP caucus together on Obamacare notwithstanding immense pressure from the MSM, Obama, Reid, K Street, and the entire DC Establishment to give the Obamacare monstrosity the patina of bipartisanship.

………………….

McConnell held them together.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM

He delivered the sequester which is now defacto repealed. Enabled the Democrats to run roughshod over his caucus left and right. He voted on several occasions over his career to limit the rights of individual senators to object and allow their voices to be heard while simultaneously granting more power to the majority leader. He has voted for amnesty and allowed many in his caucus to do the same over the years, when he was the Senate whip and majority/minority leader.

He’s good on 1st amendment rights, but I just think he just goes with whatever the US Chamber of Commerce wants done. If they were against something, so is he.

NWConservative on February 14, 2014 at 4:43 PM

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM

I’m Sorry… You said Brilliant parliamentary tactician… Oh, yeah, the Sequester was Brilliant!!

Cut the budget of the Military to the tune of 42% of its annual budget ($5.3 trillion) in return for a cut of Entitlement Spending of 14% of its annual budget ($26.1 trillion). And ONLY if there is no joint agreement to cuts….. this automatically happens.

RIIIIIIGGGHHHTTTT. BRILLIANT!!!

I think I LOATH this deal MORE than the DEMS.

yeah, thanks matthew, you are soooo smart.

-west

mr_west on February 14, 2014 at 4:43 PM

So the moby position is that Mitch is no better than Grimes. Interesting. Get the base to stay home, I suppose?

Folks, having Mitch McConnell would be 1000000x better for Kentucky and for the United States than having Alison Grimes. Everyone knows that, don’t listen to a moby tell you otherwise.

ramesees on February 14, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Anybody who thinks a GOP majority travels thru Mr Bevin is smoking Colorado Gold.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:30 PM

So then what the hell would McConnell do with a GOP majority? Make sure that dam gets a national park attached to it?

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2014 at 4:45 PM

not sure how some here see Mitch in such good light?

If the Senate were to shift to the GOP, even with Mitch losing would you still be championing him?

Essentially yesterday, they tried to hide from public exposure their votes on the debt ceiling. Mitch had already made up his mind they would give Obama a blank check and that was all there was to it. So to ensure it happened he had the votes cloaked until they could find out how many they needed to switch and those doing so wouldn’t have to be seen switching from nay to yah. Then to smooth out the hit strong armed several to switch finally getting 12 instead of just 5. Lest anybody forget a while back Mitch was for removing the Congress from having debt ceiling control and handing it to Obama.

Incumbents are overwhelmingly reelected, something like 90%+ and especially long standing and those in powerful positions and their arrogance becomes a stench on most. If we are to hold elected officials accountable they must see it as imperative to properly represent.

Taking the Senate is key as the corruption of the nomination advise and consent is troubling. And it would likely give the HOR some needed backbone to stand firmer against Obama. But we need to be sending true statesmen to DC not just seeking numerical advantage.

smitty41 on February 14, 2014 at 4:46 PM

The risk would be that, as an unknown, he’d be easier for Democrats to define and marginalize

Not being Mitch is a start but the boy better openly swear on the bible and his mother’s soul he’s not secretly in with the left or he’s gonna be hurt’n.
And if he gets elected and throws off a sheep skin and show’s himself a leftist wolf, he might get hot tar and feathers.
Kentucky want deal well with another of the master’s overseers.

onomo on February 14, 2014 at 4:46 PM

If McConnell really gave two shits about the party or the nation for that matter he would resign. He’s just another self-serving Politian who stands for nothing, certainly not conservative values.
Resign or switch parties Mitch and take those creeps McCain and Graham with you.
As long as we have crusty old traitors like him ingrained in Washington there is only one party representing the people anyway.

Buttercup on February 14, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Shouldn’t the establishment set McConnell aside and tell him to drop out?

El_Terrible on February 14, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Well that would be the smart thing to do. But this is the GOP, so I’m sure if McConnell makes it past the primary, he will say something about rape while he is getting carpetbombed in the polls against the Dem so he can lose by an even larger amount in November.

NWConservative on February 14, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Odds of the GOPe actually doing what they have been telling the Tea Party to do – “Suck it up and take one for the team.”

17,300,000,000,000 to 1

… and going UP as fast as the National Debt.

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Exactly. Funny how that whole, “taking one for the team”, thing never seems to work the other way around, hmm?

Left_is_Wrong on February 14, 2014 at 4:47 PM

We need more senators like Cruz, Lee, and Sessions.

BuckeyeSam on February 14, 2014 at 4:48 PM

McConnell will make Obama’s life a Living Hell…

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Sure. Any decade now. Wait for it…wait for it…

Buttercup on February 14, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Well, Land in Michigan has kept her lead on Peters for several months now. I hope the GOP picks up there what they lose in Kentucky. Unless McConnell pulls something out of his hat, he will probably lose. Incumbents with his name recognition going into a general election under 45% tend to not be reelected (unless their opponent self destructs, AKA Akin, Angle, Mourdock, Al Greene)

NWConservative on February 14, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Gee whiz, and here I thought only mainstream establishment Republicans can win elections. That must be true everywhere except in Kentucky.

MTF on February 14, 2014 at 4:55 PM

So the moby position is that Mitch is no better than Grimes. Interesting. Get the base to stay home, I suppose?

Folks, having Mitch McConnell would be 1000000x better for Kentucky and for the United States than having Alison Grimes. Everyone knows that, don’t listen to a moby tell you otherwise.

ramesees on February 14, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Guess that makes you the resident RINO establishment Moby.

SirGawain on February 14, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Here’s the fact of the matter. Getting an (R) majority in the Senate, basically means the (R)’s can change the rules. That’s about it.

They still won’t be able to pass any meaningful legislation that the Occupier-in-Chief won’t veto. They still won’t be able to repeal ObamaGlitch because VETO.

They won’t even be able to make substantive budget gains, because on the one hand, they’ve already given up their “power of the purse” to Obamism, and on the other hand, Obamism can just “shut down” the government, again, and blame the (R) Congress.

In the ObamaMedia he’ll be hailed as a hero. And the (R) Congress hailed as racists.

So, with an (R) Senate, the only gains “we the people” will make, are some rule changes while they wait out the ObamaClock in the hope he’ll actually leave office when he’s supposed to. Wow, I’m thrilled.

Left_is_Wrong on February 14, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Controlling the Senate agenda is critical to protecting the GOP presidential nominee. We cannot do that without a GOP majority leader. This not only includes controlling the legislative agenda, but also slowing down Obama appointments (including killing judicial appointments), and opening up the entirety of subpoena power and investigations to every GOP committee chair. Just for starters.

I don’t take foreclosing the value of a senate majority versus defeating McConnell as evidence of ANY serious thought.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Gee whiz, and here I thought only mainstream establishment Republicans can win elections. That must be true everywhere except in Kentucky.

MTF on February 14, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Yeah. Don’t you remember Thompson (WI), McMahon (CT), Fiorina (Bartertown), Rossi (WA), Allen (VA), etc. Since they are senators now, I guess us conservatives were clearly wrong.

NWConservative on February 14, 2014 at 5:00 PM

McConnell will make Obama’s life a Living Hell…

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Sure. Any decade now. Wait for it…wait for it…

Buttercup on February 14, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Years from now, Mitch’s ghost will haunt Obama and make sure he has a really nasty rash.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2014 at 5:03 PM

The money pouring into Kentucky from Cali-Hollywood is insane and going to be for the season.

He’s their primary target. I’m not sure exactly why, outside of believing he’s the reason Obama has flunked. Which is nuts, because Mitch wanted to play ball from the first day.

I guess he’s become low-hanging fruit to the left.

I still say it’s way too early and if he becomes the deciding vote in making Barry a political eunuch for two years, I’d pull for him,

But, yeah, I have to agree he’s not my choice for Senate leader. That’s where we could have used Coburn.

budfox on February 14, 2014 at 5:04 PM

In a tie with a Democrat. That’s like being in a tie with Castro. Are the people there really that stupid?

cajunpatriot on February 14, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Matthew8787 is right–it is totally asinine to beat up on McConnell. What can a Senate minority leader actually do other than hold filibusters together, which is essentially footdragging against the majority party? A Senate minority leader, or any other Senator in the minority party, can’t propose legislation if the Majority Leader doesn’t allow it on the floor, and Dingy Harry won’t bring anything to the floor he doesn’t like. McConnell has never been Majority Leader–our last Majority Leader was Bill Frist who retired in 2006.

For Republicans to do anything positive in the Senate, we need the majority, which requires 6 net pickups this year. If Kentucky goes Democrat, we would need 7 pickups in other states, which would be a tall order. We’re better off sticking with McConnell, and let’s see what he can do as Majority Leader. Unless, of course, 51 Republican Senators choose someone else to lead them…

Steve Z on February 14, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Controlling the Senate agenda is critical to protecting the GOP presidential nominee. We cannot do that without a GOP majority leader. This not only includes controlling the legislative agenda, but also slowing down Obama appointments (including killing judicial appointments), and opening up the entirety of subpoena power and investigations to every GOP committee chair. Just for starters.

I don’t take foreclosing the value of a senate majority versus defeating McConnell as evidence of ANY serious thought.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Really, and what exactly would the Senate agenda be? Some rule changes? There would be NO legislative “agenda” because VETO. Any nominations they block would be hailed in the ObamaMedia as (at best) obstructionist and probably racist to boot.

OH, and you actually think the limp noodle, (R)’s in the Senate will investigate ANYTHING? When they’re too scared to dare UTTER the “I” word, let alone risk being called bad things like, racists, in the ObamaMedia?

And let’s not forget, people like McConnell, have absolutely no problem with the IRS targeting Tea Party and Conservative groups. They’re, quietly, all for it.

So, there is exactly ZERO chance they’ll investigate anything.

Left_is_Wrong on February 14, 2014 at 5:07 PM

GOP firm’s poll: McConnell in statistical tie with Democrat in Kentucky, leads Bevin by 42 points in primary

That’s good news for Mitch Daschle, he can continue to punch the Conservatives out of his way and the Democrats, independents and illegals will carry him to a landslide victory.

RJL on February 14, 2014 at 5:09 PM

42 points, yeah he can make that up, in someone’s fevered mind.

cimbri on February 14, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Article in The Guardian today from leftists begging Ruth Bader Ginsburg to retire b/c if McConnell becomes majority leader, he can kill any progressive Supreme Court appointment. And kill/delay many other vacancies on the federal bench – the pace of confirmations would slow to a near crawl and/or stop altogether.

None of that is possible if the GOP remains in the minority. I fail to understand what is so complicated about this.

In DC, you have NOTHING if you don’t control the levers of power.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Matthew8787 is right–it is totally asinine to beat up on McConnell.

Unless he’s a lousy candidate.

MTF on February 14, 2014 at 5:14 PM

ABMM

besser tot als rot on February 14, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Article in The Guardian today from leftists begging Ruth Bader Ginsburg to retire b/c if McConnell becomes majority leader, he can kill any progressive Supreme Court appointment. And kill/delay many other vacancies on the federal bench – the pace of confirmations would slow to a near crawl and/or stop altogether.

None of that is possible if the GOP remains in the minority. I fail to understand what is so complicated about this.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 5:12 PM

That’s funny. Because none of it is possible if the GOP gains the majority either. Especially with McConnell “leading” the caucus.

besser tot als rot on February 14, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Article in The Guardian today from leftists begging Ruth Bader Ginsburg to retire b/c if McConnell becomes majority leader, he can kill any progressive Supreme Court appointment. And kill/delay many other vacancies on the federal bench – the pace of confirmations would slow to a near crawl and/or stop altogether.

None of that is possible if the GOP remains in the minority. I fail to understand what is so complicated about this.

In DC, you have NOTHING if you don’t control the levers of power.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Even if he defeats Bevin, the costs to defeat Grimes will be very high given his dissaproval numbers.

Are you willing to sacrifice winnable races to play prevent defense with McConnell? Are you willing to sacrifice the GOP senate majority just to keep McConnell in office?

Because that is what I am getting here. He is consistently tied with Grimes at what 42-43%? I was squealing with joy when McCaskill had these numbers. She was not going to be reelected with her disapproval and reelect numbers that low. Of course, then you had the GOP’er commit electoral suicide.

So unless Grimes does that, she will probably win. McConnell had 10 million COH as of Dec 31, 2013. He is going to suck up the funds that could be used for other candidates to stave off the huge amounts coming for Grimes from outside sources.

Are you willing to sacrifice other seats to save Mitch McConnell?

NWConservative on February 14, 2014 at 5:22 PM

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 5:12 PM

You’re assuming McConnell can win, when all of the recent polling says he’s in a tie or losing. Given that his name recognition is so high, that’s probably the best he can do against the Democrat. A different Republican can do better. What I fail to understand is why Republicans are so afraid of getting rid of the devil they know, in favor of taking a flyer on someone new (who might be better).

I say this with no particular axe to grind against McConnell, since, as I said earlier, his parliamentary skills could come in handy in a GOP-majority Senate. But lets not blame the messenger: McConnell is a lousy candidate, and looks at this early stage like he could easily lose this thing. That’s not our fault for criticizing him, or Ted Cruz’ fault for making McConnell go on the record with a vote. That’s McConnell’s fault.

MTF on February 14, 2014 at 5:22 PM

if McConnell becomes majority leader, he can kill any progressive Supreme Court appointment. And kill/delay many other vacancies on the federal bench – the pace of confirmations would slow to a near crawl and/or stop altogether.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Mitch McConnell Voted for Nearly 80% of Obama’s Judicial Nominees

Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) voted to confirm nearly 80 percent of President Obama’s judicial nominees who received up-or-down roll call votes on the Senate floor, according to an extensive Media Trackers analysis of Senate roll call votes. When voice votes and unanimous consent requests are included, McConnell’s support for Obama’s judicial nominees increases to 88 percent.

Since Obama’s inauguration in 2009, the Senate has held 131 roll call votes related to the president’s judicial nominees. Of those 131 votes, 122 were up-or-down confirmation votes, while another nine were to votes end filibusters on a handful of judicial nominees.

McConnell, the Senate minority leader, voted to confirm 97 of the 122 judicial nominees (79.5%) who received Senate roll call votes since January of 2009. He voted to continue seven of the nine judicial filibusters that resulted in a cloture vote since President Obama first took office.

sharrukin on February 14, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Article in The Guardian today from leftists begging Ruth Bader Ginsburg to retire b/c if McConnell becomes majority leader, he can kill any progressive Supreme Court appointment. And kill/delay many other vacancies on the federal bench – the pace of confirmations would slow to a near crawl and/or stop altogether.

None of that is possible if the GOP remains in the minority. I fail to understand what is so complicated about this.

In DC, you have NOTHING if you don’t control the levers of power.

matthew8787 on February 14, 2014 at 5:12 PM

There is instance after instance after instance of the GOP caving on nearly everything they *once* may have believed in.

Not raising taxes? Nope, not any more. If they’re demonized in the ObamaMedia, give Obamism anything he wants.

Not doing Obamnesty? Nope, they’re all for that now.

Standing strong on the mythical debt “ceiling”? Nope, caved on that too.

There is exactly ZERO evidence to say the (R)’s would have the guts to block ANY of O’s major nominations. Let alone one like a Supreme Court nominee.

Left_is_Wrong on February 14, 2014 at 5:25 PM

I’m dangerously close to thinking we could flip 5 seats for the cost of defending Kentucky.

How telling what a scumbag McConnell has become. The ceiling move didn’t help.

The poll is the way it is because Rs hate McConnell. In Nov. they wouldn’t vote for the D.

Schadenfreude on February 14, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Yeah-McConnell is a brilliant parliamentarian tactician-if you’re a Democrat!

redware on February 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Even if he supported TARP to make his company money, that is his job as a company executive to make money. Sometimes your job forces you to do things that aren’t consistent with your policy preferences. Is this news to anyone?

besser tot als rot on February 14, 2014 at 5:34 PM

In that case, all things being equal, I would tend towards McConnell due to his seniority. Would you rather have Cornyn in charge? Bevin would be a freshman and years away from a leadership position.

Jeff Weimer on February 14, 2014 at 4:36 PM

actually i think mcconnell has been in congress way too long and he’s one of those career politicians who gets used to being in power. so his senority is one reason i want him to go.

Sachiko on February 14, 2014 at 5:38 PM

If you are a Republican, obviously then you must vote for Plush Buttocks as your gravy-sloshing placeholder politician. When has this plush toy ever stuck up for your freedoms in a way that endangered lightly scuffed his mega-plush Seat at the Table”?

KemMON Kentucky! Good Hi-test Gravy! Even we here in Texas just kind of shrugged when our State Son, Rick Perry, flamed out on the national stage.

Kentucky will be proud again, but not with Plush Buttocks as your, um.

RushBaby on February 14, 2014 at 5:39 PM

“McConnell in statistical tie with Democrat in Kentucky, leads Bevin by 42 points in primary”
…Kentucky is no longer the “Blue Grass” state. It’s now officially the DUMB-ASS state.

TeaPartyNation on February 14, 2014 at 5:40 PM

So the moby position is that Mitch is no better than Grimes. Interesting. Get the base to stay home, I suppose?

ramesees on February 14, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Most of the people you’re calling “mobys” are longtime posters. All these trolls suddenly showing up from nowhere to defend McConnell are far more likely to be the “real” “mobys.”

Doomberg on February 14, 2014 at 5:51 PM

“McConnell in statistical tie with Democrat in Kentucky, leads Bevin by 42 points in primary”
…Kentucky is no longer the “Blue Grass” state. It’s now officially the DUMB-ASS state.

TeaPartyNation on February 14, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Gotta love the non Kentucky people who post on here. Ditch Mitch, toss the RINO, etc. Shame none of them actually live here in Kentucky and can vote for our Senator. People here have seen through the Democrat endorsed Bevin.

Bevin was a liar when he lived in Connecticut and moving here to Kentucky didn’t change him.

Johnnyreb on February 14, 2014 at 5:58 PM

“Let’s say McConnell leads Bevin by three points with a week to go before the primary….”

Pie in the sky. Bevin has gotten everything he’s going to get here in Kentucky. He’s on the way down. I am proudly voting for Mitch McConnell who is voting exactly like I asked him to. >>> McConnell Aide: Vote on Debt Ceiling is Fulfilling a Promise Made to Kentucky Voters.

Kentucky’s motto: United We Stand. Divided We Fall.
If Mitch loses, we lose the Senate. You don’t cut off your own head and live.

gocatholic on February 14, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Most of the people you’re calling “mobys” are longtime posters. All these trolls suddenly showing up from nowhere to defend McConnell are far more likely to be the “real” “mobys.”

Doomberg on February 14, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Johnnyreb was posting exact copy/paste from the front page of http://bailoutbevin.com/bailout/ the yesterday. There are a lot of McConnell operatives out and about now.

NWConservative on February 14, 2014 at 6:01 PM

McConnell has allowed Harry Reid to run all over him and the GOP caucus without a whimper. This man is no leader. He needs to retire for the good of the Republican Party. I have a feeling that he won’t and when we lose the Senate yet again, the RINOs will be pointing at the Tea Party and not at themselves.

joekenha on February 14, 2014 at 6:03 PM

gocatholic on February 14, 2014 at 5:58 PM

+ 100..Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on February 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Kentucky’s motto: United We Stand. Divided We Fall.
If Mitch loses, we lose the Senate. You don’t cut off your own head and live.

gocatholic on February 14, 2014 at 5:58 PM

The problem is, for “united we stand” to work, you actually have to take a stand. Mitch is a coward. Also, who said that we all couldn’t unite behind Bevin? I know you’ll never change your mind, but you are so sadly wrong on this issue. McConnell has to go. There can be no compromise here. His tenure in the Senate has been nearly as humiliating as Boehner’s in the House.

joekenha on February 14, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Gotta love the non Kentucky people who post on here. Ditch Mitch, toss the RINO, etc. Shame none of them actually live here in Kentucky and can vote for our Senator. People here have seen through the Democrat endorsed Bevin.

Bevin was a liar when he lived in Connecticut and moving here to Kentucky didn’t change him.

Johnnyreb on February 14, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Back for more copy/paste from your McConnell talking points? How many Democrats support Bevin? You could name one yesterday. How about that 1/3 of Democrats? Put up or shut up.

NWConservative on February 14, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Johnnyreb was posting exact copy/paste from the front page of http://bailoutbevin.com/bailout/ the yesterday. There are a lot of McConnell operatives out and about now.

NWConservative on February 14, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Thanks Bevin operative. I will be expecting my check soon.

Johnnyreb on February 14, 2014 at 6:08 PM

gocatholic on February 14, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Wow. You’re exactly the reason I’m no longer a Republican.

Really enjoyed how “United” you were WITH THE DIMOCRATS to sell out America, AGAIN, on the debt “ceiling”.

Yep, with friends like you who needs leftists?

Left_is_Wrong on February 14, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Better start supporting his primary opponent …

Or people will need to vote for the Democrat to get this POS out of office.

HondaV65 on February 14, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Thanks Bevin operative. I will be expecting my check soon.

Johnnyreb on February 14, 2014 at 6:08 PM

HA! I wish I could get paid like you just to sit trolling Hotair all day.

NWConservative on February 14, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Looks like Bevin is the more “electable” candidate.

Think the establishment will go with that reasoning? That’s the reasoning they used to put RomneyCare on the ballot!

But I’m thinking that “electable” only applies to those outside the establishment.

Good news is – Crossroads America will sink MILLIONS into this POS and that will enable conservatives in other states to have a bit more breathing room to win their races.

HondaV65 on February 14, 2014 at 6:13 PM

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