GOP firm’s poll: McConnell in statistical tie with Democrat in Kentucky, leads Bevin by 42 points in primary

posted at 4:01 pm on February 14, 2014 by Allahpundit

Similar to last week’s lackluster result from Survey USA. Unless Bevin catches fire, looks like the best-case scenario for the GOP is an exhausting dogfight to the bitter end between McConnell and Grimes that sucks in untold millions of establishment dollars aimed at protecting the Senate minority leader. Again — that’s the best-case scenario. The worst-case scenario, that that dogfight ends in decisive defeat, comes from Sean Davis:

Three of the four Kentucky polls taken so far this year have come from left- or right-leaning pollsters but the topline numbers have been roughly consistent. Two have McConnell up by one, one has the race a dead heat, and the fourth has Grimes up by four. Today’s data, as Davis notes, may be overstating McConnell’s support, if anything. Survey USA had his favorable rating at 27/50, which makes sense given that the entirety of the left and now a sizable chunk of the right consider him an enemy. Wenzel Strategies, the pollster behind this morning’s data, has his favorables at 50/47, which makes … less sense. This race may become for the GOP establishment what Wendy Davis’s race is for abortion warriors — an exceedingly challenging cause celebre that sucks money away from more winnable races.

Solution: Nominate Matt Bevin instead? He does roughly as well against Grimes as McConnell does (trailing by two instead of leading by one) and some polls have shown him outperforming him in the general against her. The risk would be that, as an unknown, he’d be easier for Democrats to define and marginalize than a bigger name like Mitch the Knife, but then that was also true of Rand Paul circa 2010 and he did okay. And yet, despite conservative groups attacking McConnell relentlessly, he still leads Bevin 59/17 in the new Wenzel data and 55/29 in Survey USA’s data last week. Why is that? I get that he’s still all but unknown to voters, but that shouldn’t matter this much; he’s running as Not Mitch McConnell, after all. You don’t need to know his name to signal your preference for ousting McConnell in a poll.

This isn’t helping either:

Matt Bevin, campaigning for Kentucky’s Senate seat in the Republican primary, said his signature on a document expressing support for the 2008 Wall Street bailouts was just a formality. But legal experts — including Bevin’s own lawyer — are dismissing the excuse.

“As a general matter if you put your signature on anything you would be at least acknowledging you don’t have a major issue with the content,” Wade R. Bridge, the attorney listed on Bevin’s 2008 filing, told Breitbart News…

“It may be true that he signed as a CEO but it would be an odd thing for a CEO to disagree with a letter that he signed and sent to the company’s shareholders or a filing that was made with the SEC,” [Cornell law prof Charles] Whitehead told Breitbart News…

Several sources told Breitbart News that the SEC would consider that the signators of the cover letter are attesting to its contents.

Securities law experts said the same thing to National Review and the Weekly Standard. (“If you express an opinion you do not hold, you violate the securities laws.”) Either Bevin’s lying when he says he opposed TARP from the beginning or he’s telling the truth but ended up on the wrong side of proper securities practice. Probably won’t matter to Not Mitch McConnell voters, but as time wears on, I think tea-party voters increasingly look at primary challengers from the following baseline: “Is this guy more Mike Lee or more Christine O’Donnell?” I.e. is this someone worth risking a seat Republicans already hold on or is this someone likely to implode in the general? Bevin’s TARP position won’t matter a bit after the primaries, but I bet he’s on a shorter leash in some GOP voters’ minds in terms of permissible mistakes than he would have been if he was running in 2010 or 2012.

Exit question: Let’s say McConnell leads Bevin by three points with a week to go before the primary and he tells Rand Paul he badly needs him to come home and do some campaigning. What does Rand do?


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3

I am a bit shocked that there aren’t a lot of really good people who would like to serve their state but I also find it hard to imagine that whatever horrible thing Bevin has done that anyone who has been in D.C. for as long as McConnell hasn’t don’t a million times worse. I think some major rationalization is going on here.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Heritage and the Senate Conservatives Fund need to dump millions more into relentless attacks on McConnell driving up his negatives and forcing him to deplete his campaign war chest. Even if the internecine battle for the GOP nomination ultimately helps Grimes win Kentucky, sometimes you have to “destroy the village in order to save it.”

Dan333 on February 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM

I have no love for McConnell. While he is today far more conservative than he has been in his 30 years in the Beltway, he will never really overcome the Nixon/Ford GOP that he came from. He is very much a Clay Whig, idolizes KY’s native son, Henry Clay. Much as Abe Lincoln was a Clay Whig.

This Bevin challenge is increasingly likely to be a kamikaze mission for the professional Tea folk, like Jim DeMint’s PAC. This will be a mutually destructive primary that will hand the advantage to the Dem challenger in the general election, leading to a likely loss of the seat.

Toocon on February 15, 2014 at 10:37 AM

Two things:

1. I don’t believe Jin Demint runs the Senate conservatives fund anymore.

2. Mitch has come very close to losing in some of thr past several elections. If he cannot stand up against a primary challenger then he shouldn’t be running in the first place. I believe competition creates stronger candidates either way. Romney as flawed as he was, was a better candidate after the primary than before.

NWConservative on February 15, 2014 at 11:02 AM

I am a bit shocked that there aren’t a lot of really good people who would like to serve their state but I also find it hard to imagine that whatever horrible thing Bevin has done that anyone who has been in D.C. for as long as McConnell hasn’t don’t a million times worse. I think some major rationalization is going on here.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM

He got a grant from the state of Connecticut to rebuild his old building (that he couldn’t insure due to age of the building) and had to stay in the state for five years/ hire new employees in order to not have to pay it back. But apparently he’s teh debil because he should have footed the big himself since he should have known that would happen to an old building that he couldn’t purchase insurance for. ( we have been going round and round with this)

His other problem is that he may have supported TARP. So did McConnell which is a wash.

NWConservative on February 15, 2014 at 11:11 AM

How to lose a country 101;

1- Become impressed with your own reflection in the mirror.

2- Listen to the reflection, and your fellow senators reflections, before the people who voted for you.

3- Believe the suck-weasel handmaidens who surround you, constantly stating you have the best reflection.

4- Form an oligarchical reflection club, who for years and years simply polish and protect each others reflection.

5- Lie and tell people that polishing your reflection is in their “best interests”.

6- Fold like a lawn chair in a wind storm every time the opposition threatens to crack your mirror.

7- Ignore the crumbling republic as you stare in the mirror.

Marcus Traianus on February 15, 2014 at 11:15 AM

NWConservative on February 15, 2014 at 11:11 AM

I’m pretty sure we aren’t experiencing equal opportunity outrage here. I actually would have had no problem with reelecting McConnell until he started with his silly azzed games against people more conservative in general and Tea Party members specifically. Your not a leader when you can’t coalesce the different factions but are actually campaigning and raising money against them. Attached to those members of Congress are the people they represent who are sick of being the wagon. Also, to my knowledge there are probably only ten people (including myself) who were against TARP. Laws were in place and rooms in jails available, I don’t believe in too big to fail.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Marcus Traianus on February 15, 2014 at 11:15 AM

The only difference between McConnell and Obama is that Obama doesn’t fold. I guess that’s the good part of having the press on your side. When he “changes his mind” it’s handled by imperial decree for the little people, better known as party members up for reelection.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 11:57 AM

I can’t get worked up over the prospect of Mitch McConnell, or most any other establishment Republican, losing their seat. It would be one thing if a Republican controlled Senate would make a difference. But really what are the chances of that?
Who thinks that if the Senate switched that they would roll back and reduce the size and reach of the federal government? Reduce the deficit? Repeal Obamacare? If anyone does please contact me about a bridge I have for sale.
The establishment Republicans are statists to the core and just as responsible for the situation this country is in. In opposition they are useless and in power they are almost as bad as the Democrats.
Nominate conservatives or to hell with the GOP. All of these entrenched office holders should be turned out. These offices are not a life time sinecure. Get rid of them all after 2 or 3 terms.

HeWeiJin on February 15, 2014 at 12:31 PM

again the vast majority of people voting for Republican candidates really don’t like being called names

But keep on trying that and seeing where that gets any cause

remember voting for someone who cannot get elected is the same as voting for Obama

McConnell is going to be elected Bevin is not

EricPWJohnson on February 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM

EricPWJohnson on February 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM

The name calling is a two way street and Mitch decided he wanted to punch the Tea Party in the nose. Some leader.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM

The establishment Republicans are statists to the core and just as responsible for the situation this country is in. In opposition they are useless and in power they are almost as bad as the Democrats.
Nominate conservatives or to hell with the GOP. All of these entrenched office holders should be turned out. These offices are not a life time sinecure. Get rid of them all after 2 or 3 terms.

Bingo. Well said. Time to give the American people clear, contrasting choices in governing philosophy and principles. The only thing the Republican party is doing now anyway is delaying the inescapable result by a decade or two.

So if forcefully asserting principles of personal responsibility, hard work, limited govt, and rule of Constitutional law means electoral disaster for Republicans…then so be it. But it will force the Democrats – and by extension, those who vote for Democrats – to fully own the disastrous consequences of their actions. And as we sink deeper into the mire and muck of statist hell, more and more people will start to think about giving those principles a try again.

rvastar on February 15, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Cindy

After great and long term provocation – some have punched the Tea’ers in the nose because they well deserved it.

They callously threw away the deciding vote by backing owen over Scozzafava which was the one vote that enabled Pelosi to pass the ACA

Then they threw away an Easy Seat in Delaware, let Harry Reid get re-elected, threw away Alaska, Montana, Colorado, Missouri…….

At what point is this going to be a plus?

Do I want what the Tea’ers ant – yes – can it be don’t with insults, shiny white horses of purity? with less than 60 votes in the Senate?

EricPWJohnson on February 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Well said Eric, I am sick and tired of TruCon types costing the GOP seat after winnable seat, all the while ranting about Republican “Establishment” Illuminati who are secretly working with Barack Obama and the Democrats in some dark cabal in subterranean Washington DC.

I personally think Mitch McConnell has done a fine job as Senate Minority Leader, most of the anti-McConnell posters on this thread suffer from delusions of grandeur, thinking only if THEY were Senate minority leader they would have forced Obama to pass an agenda even Barry Goldwater would envy

Dr.B on February 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM

I see we have some new establishment shills in the audience.

Wankers.

Midas on February 15, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Well said Eric, I am sick and tired of TruCon types costing the GOP seat after winnable seat, all the while ranting about Republican “Establishment” Illuminati

Dr.B on February 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM

The good Dr. is entitled to his/her opinions. Not his/her facts:

Linda McMahon
Carly Fiorina
Scott Brown
Pete Hoekstra
Tommy Thompson
Mitt Romney
Paul Ryan

And the list goes on and on at every level. McCain, Dole, Bush….

Franklin100 on February 15, 2014 at 5:07 PM

I see we have some TruCon fanatics in the audience

Delusional fools

Dr.B on February 15, 2014 at 5:35 PM

McConnell is solely at fault for his falling essentially behind in this race. Can anyone deny that, and produce some evidence? Any politician with tenure will have enemies, but McConnell seems unusual in that he has so very few friends. And his friends are wacko-birds, like McCain and Graham.

If McConnell wants to win, continuing his fervent attacks on Ted Cruz and Mike Lee might be the dumbest tack to take. Maybe McConnell should instead make a positive case for reflection, and see if he can enlist the right to help him.

Oh, who am I kidding, McConnell thinks he owns this seat and he doesn’t have any interest in conservative support. What a loser.

MTF on February 15, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Big spender Republicans like McConnell have driven the GOP into minority and the country into desperate circumstances. And yet I see we still have fearful people haunting this thread convinced that only big spending Republicans can win in Kentucky. Unbelievable.

MTF on February 15, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Wow, so much wrong.

After great and long term provocation – some have punched the Tea’ers in the nose because they well deserved it.

After an even longer provocation by many people in the GOP upper crust poking the base in the eye over and over again.

They callously threw away the deciding vote by backing owen over Scozzafava

Not even factually correct in the slightest!

Where the HECK are you getting this information? Plus, the tea party proved that they made the right choice by backing DOUG HOFFMAN. Bill Owens was the Democrat in the race who narrowly won against a true RINO and the Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. This was only after Dede Scozzafava publically endorsed the Democrat (huh, where have we heard that before when “centrist” Republicans are involved) Owens and stumped for him after.

Owens, again the Democrat, won the seat 48 to Hoffman’s 46, while Scozzafava received 6% throwing the vote to Owens.

Now who was throwing away the seat? Sure as heck looked like the “centrist” Republicans.

By the way, Ms. Scozzafava endorsed another Democrat running for her seat in the New York Assembly and is now working for the Cuomo administration. Gotta love those “bipartisan” moves from a true RINO.

which was the one vote that enabled Pelosi to pass the ACA

Um, again, where the heck are you getting your information? A SIMPLE search in Google or whatever search engine you use brings up the 111th Congress. Nancy Pelosi had 258 Democrats in the House. Nothing, and I repeat NOTHING would have stopped it in the House. She had such a cushion for the Obamacare vote that she passed it with the minimum necessary for passage i.e. 218 votes. 39 Democrats voted no, but you will not convince me that one of them would not have switched or all of them had Pelosi demanded it.

NWConservative on February 15, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Then they threw away an Easy Seat in Delaware, let Harry Reid get re-elected, threw away Alaska, Montana, Colorado, Missouri…….

………………………………

EricPWJohnson on February 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Then they threw away an Easy Seat in Delaware, let Harry Reid get re-elected, threw away Alaska, Montana, Colorado, Missouri…….

At what point is this going to be a plus?

Do I want what the Tea’ers ant – yes – can it be don’t with insults, shiny white horses of purity? with less than 60 votes in the Senate?

EricPWJohnson on February 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM

1. Harry Reid was re-elected through fraud (power going out in several republican precincts), the casinos, and dozens of endorsements and support from “centrist” republicans helping out the Democrats AGAIN.

2. Who threw away Alaska? Ted Stevens had investigations into possible illegal activity which was promptly dropped after the election. How did the Tea Party have anything to do with it?

If you meant the 2010 Alaska election, then here AGAIN we have another “centrist” republican from the “leadership” who decided to not abide by the primary results where the Republican voters, who SHE represents as a member of the party, voted for a different person to represent them. So instead, she ran a spiteful write-in campaign against the Republican candidate rather than leave her cushy job in Washington

By the way Mitch McConnell as minority leader let her retain her seniority in the Republican party after she won a plurality of the votes in Alaska with huge Democrat support.

3. Montana was lost by the establishment candidate, enough said.

4. Colorado was a sore loss because it was a race where the candidate most establishment people supported lost in the primary, but I respect her much more than the others because she was out of character for a typical republican backed by party elites. She actually ENDORSED the Tea Party Candidate, but unfortunately he lost very narrowly to Obama’s candidate.

5. Missouri was a so-con candidate who suffered from a severe case of foot and mouth disease and a lack of media savvy. He was backed primarily by Hyuckabee and his banjo/guitar. I wanted Sarah Steelman to win as did most tea partiers along with Sarah Palin. He needed to quit and let Steelman take the lead against Ms. Clairebear.

6. Delaware was a special instance. You have a psycho on one side who was sure to lose and a democrat on the other who might win. Mike Castle like Dede Scozzafava was a true RINO. He was one of the handful of Republicans to vote for Cap and Trade.

He had a 52% lifetime average with the ACU (which the leadership loves to use as though it is a cross to vampires when criticized as not being conservative). An aside, the ACU only picks 20 votes per year deemed by them to be fundamental to the conservative cause (some of which are really odd things), so if there were more issues throughout the year, the ACU would not pick it up. But still it showed that on average Castle voted with the left on fundamental conservative issues 50% of the time. How would he vote in the Senate with that kind of record?

He actually scored consistently in the 20′s in previous years.

He scored 100% from NARAL and Planned Parenthood.

He got an F from the NRA

He scored 35% and 26% in 2007-08 from the Club for Growth. Arlen Specter, the party switcher, scored a 44% percent from them.

He voted against the surge in Iraq, against providing oil and gas companies with tax benefits by providing avenues to lean us off of foreign oil, and for the SCHIP program entitlement expansion that GWB actually vetoed (one of the entitlements that GWB actually turned down).

So really? The republicans wanted THIS guy in the Senate? How would he be different than Coons, the Democrat who won?

Seriously, look at the “conservative stallwart” Rubio. Immediately voted for amnesty and campaigned for it after getting into office. What would have happened had Castle got into office?

There would be no winner for the Republicans in Delaware.

NWConservative on February 15, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Blah blah blah Mitch McConnell and John Boehner are teh aWeSoME!!!!111!11 Blah blah blah Illuminati blah blah blah

PS ~ Tea Partiers and Tru Conz R teh debil!11!!1

Dr.B on February 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Fixed it for you.

Plus they are not in some “dark cabal.” The leadership is doing it right in front of the base’s face. They are just trying to be sneaky about it, but since it is the GOP “leadership,” they screwed it up. Suprise. Not.

NWConservative on February 15, 2014 at 5:56 PM

EricPWJohnson on February 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM

You could have brought a lot of people up to prove your point, the Tea Party has not be infallible but Scozzafava has got to be the worst. But a pretty darned good example as to why we keep losing the presidency. Leftie Lites, why bother.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Dr.B on February 15, 2014 at 5:35 PM

I have never identified myself as anything but a conservative, while I would be willing to bet you proudly claim to be a Republican. One of these days you folks, might buy a clue and cultivate us instead of squishes and we might get this country back on some kind of fiscal sanity. People say the Tea Party fights the Republicans more than the Democrats. All I can say to that, is No, sh!t, Sherlock. Democrats don’t lie about who they are. They will tell you right out loud and proud that they plan to take you money to secure votes and funds for more votes. Republicans lie like dogs about fiscal responsibility and do the same darned thing as Democrat. THE TEA PARTY IS NOT A WING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Poor Mitch! Bet there will be a lot of those conservatives you hate so much staying home in November just to see you lose.Silly Mitch,never bite the hand that votes for you!

redware on February 15, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 7:49 PM

God it is like talking to a brick wall of willfull stupidity. How many times do you have to repeat yourself to these people?

NWConservative on February 15, 2014 at 9:35 PM

So disagreeing with suicidal tactics like last fall’s shutdown, or refusing to support foolish primary challengers who are permanently stuck with their foot in their mouth, is now a sign of stupidity? Or is its RINOism? Or does it mean I am an “establishment” plant? The TruCon commentators are amazingly delusional. The sad thing is, if they could run Christine O’Donnell, or Todd Akin, or Sharon Angle for every Senate race they would, and they would fully expect them to win all 100 races. And if they lost any, it would be because “GOP Establishment RINOs” betrayed them, of course!

Dr.B on February 16, 2014 at 12:29 AM

NWConservative on February 15, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Party people, loyal and blind. They mean well but both “sides” are leading us to the same destination.

Cindy Munford on February 16, 2014 at 2:37 AM

Dr.B on February 16, 2014 at 12:29 AM

The establishment sticks their foot in their mouths plenty and make horrible votes, your just willing to look the other way. Suicidal? The world still turns after the Slim Down. And if you think calling people “TruCon” is some kind of insult, think again. You cannot keep spending and boring and thrive, no matter who is president. The fact that both the Republicans and the Democrats are going after the Tea Party and neither sees them as allies, ought to tell you everything you need to know. So go kiss K Street’s azz but don’t expect me to cheer.

Cindy Munford on February 16, 2014 at 2:43 AM

You cannot keep spending and boring and thrive,

or borrowing

Cindy Munford on February 16, 2014 at 3:02 AM

Your not a leader when you can’t coalesce the different factions but are actually campaigning and raising money against them. Attached to those members of Congress are the people they represent who are sick of being the wagon

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Cindy Munford on February 16, 2014 at 2:37 AM

You cannot keep spending and boring and thrive, no matter who is president. The fact that both the Republicans and the Democrats are going after the Tea Party and neither sees them as allies, ought to tell you everything you need to know

Cindy Munford on February 16, 2014 at 2:43 AM

Spot on over and over again. On fire!

Franklin100 on February 16, 2014 at 9:07 AM

So disagreeing with suicidal tactics like last fall’s shutdown, or refusing to support foolish primary challengers who are permanently stuck with their foot in their mouth, is now a sign of stupidity? Or is its RINOism? Or does it mean I am an “establishment” plant? The TruCon commentators are amazingly delusional. The sad thing is, if they could run Christine O’Donnell, or Todd Akin, or Sharon Angle for every Senate race they would, and they would fully expect them to win all 100 races. And if they lost any, it would be because “GOP Establishment RINOs” betrayed them, of course!
Dr.B on February 16, 2014 at 12:29 AM

We could also run bob dole, john McCain, or mitt Romney again. They won their presidential elections. So exactly what is to be accomplished by voting for McConnell and Cornyn when they screw over their base to appease the US Chamber of Crony Capitalism?

Brock Robamney on February 16, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Franklin100 on February 16, 2014 at 9:07 AM

I don’t comment on here very often because whenever I intend to I make the decision to read the comments and discover that Cindy Munford has already stated whatever it was I intended to say and typically she has said it more eloquently than I would have.

I hereby declare my platonic love for Cindy Munford’s wisdom. You rock, woman!

rmel80 on February 16, 2014 at 11:38 AM

again the vast majority of people voting for Republican candidates really don’t like being called names
But keep on trying that and seeing where that gets any cause
remember voting for someone who cannot get elected is the same as voting for Obama
McConnell is going to be elected Bevin is not
EricPWJohnson on February 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM

In denial I see. McConnell is toast either in the primary or the general. Running on “it’s not my fault” as a political platform will not garner many votes

Brock Robamney on February 16, 2014 at 1:46 PM

So disagreeing with suicidal tactics like last fall’s shutdown, or refusing to support foolish primary challengers who are permanently stuck with their foot in their mouth, is now a sign of stupidity? Or is its RINOism? Or does it mean I am an “establishment” plant? The TruCon commentators are amazingly delusional. The sad thing is, if they could run Christine O’Donnell, or Todd Akin, or Sharon Angle for every Senate race they would, and they would fully expect them to win all 100 races. And if they lost any, it would be because “GOP Establishment RINOs” betrayed them, of course!

Dr.B on February 16, 2014 at 12:29 AM

My response at 5:52 PM yesterday answered all your talking points. I am not repeating myself. But keep pounding that chicken of O’Donnell and Angle. I will repeat that Steelman, who I supported, should have won in Missouri, Akin clearly was not ready for prime time.

And dang, that shutdown was so bad. I mean we are now going to lose the House of Reps for SURE because the government was “shut” down to 80% function for a week!

NWConservative on February 16, 2014 at 1:50 PM

NWConservative on February 16, 2014 at 1:50 PM

My response to that failed argument would be: Marco Rubio, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, and Ted Cruz. All 4 beat the progressive GOP picks

Brock Robamney on February 16, 2014 at 1:56 PM

rmel80 on February 16, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Please comment, your spelling and grammar has to be an improvement. And thank you for the declaration, I am touched to know that at least I think like a few people.

Cindy Munford on February 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM

“As a general matter if you put your signature on anything you would be at least acknowledging you don’t have a major issue with the content,” Wade R. Bridge, the attorney listed on Bevin’s 2008 filing, told Breitbart News…

Experts opinion? Really? Bevin’s job was make to sure that NUMBERS in the clients’ prospectus are correct, and his signature testified to that. It was not Bevin’s job, though, to write an opinion on state of economy in USA.

This is like blaming the guy who designed car’s engine for faulty car brakes. And supposed smart folks seem to be falling for McConnell side’s stupid claim?

I guess it was Scalia’s fault that Roberts wrote SCOTUS opinion on HusseinCare, after all. Stupid is as stupid does. REPLACE McConnell! I don’t care if its a dead rock, Kentucky, just do the right thing.

riddick on February 17, 2014 at 12:00 AM

I have never identified myself as anything but a conservative, while I would be willing to bet you proudly claim to be a Republican. One of these days you folks, might buy a clue and cultivate us instead of squishes and we might get this country back on some kind of fiscal sanity. People say the Tea Party fights the Republicans more than the Democrats. All I can say to that, is No, sh!t, Sherlock. Democrats don’t lie about who they are. They will tell you right out loud and proud that they plan to take you money to secure votes and funds for more votes. Republicans lie like dogs about fiscal responsibility and do the same darned thing as Democrat. THE TEA PARTY IS NOT A WING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2014 at 7:49 PM

This x 1,000
Cindy Munford gets it and happens to be one of the best posters on HA atm. Also thread winnah with out a doubt. The above statement really explains this country’s problems.
The tea party peeps are all mostly nursing their musket shot wounds from the whole Lexington and Concord things…+ no sh!t Sherlock has to be one of the best sayings evah.

I don’t post much here, but I had throw my 2 cents in here (long time lurker). CM is absolutely correct in the assessment as far what’s going on politically.

-Fett

Fett on February 17, 2014 at 1:10 AM

You do realize in Kentucky that you have to vote for McConnell if Bevins doesn’t get it, and visa versa, so ruining either candidate in the public eye is a lot like stabbing the rest of us republicans in the back, since we are counting on a Kentucky win.

Be warned there are socially liberal libertarians hoping to run the GOP into the ground…

Fleuries on February 17, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Fleuries on February 17, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Whoever loses the primary should be a vigorous proponent of the winner. I don’t think either needs to ruin the reputation of the other to win.

Cindy Munford on February 17, 2014 at 10:55 AM

You do realize in Kentucky that you have to vote for McConnell if Bevins doesn’t get it, and visa versa, so ruining either candidate in the public eye is a lot like stabbing the rest of us republicans in the back, since we are counting on a Kentucky win.
Be warned there are socially liberal libertarians hoping to run the GOP into the ground…
Fleuries on February 17, 2014 at 10:43 AM</blockquote

For what purpose? We already have a Democrat party. If we want to vote for a tone deaf politician, we can easily vote for Allison Grimes. I know if Bevin won, the Progressives like McConnell and all would not support him. So the whole rally to vote for another lib rings hollow for me

Brock Robamney on February 17, 2014 at 11:59 AM

An assumption is made that if anyone beats McConnell we’re stuck with them for 3 decades also. Why is that?
Here’s a concept; vote Traitor McConnell out and if Grimes or whoever gets in stabs their party in the back or they just plain suck then they get voted out in 4 years and the next candidate has 4 years to prove their worth or they get the boot and so forth.
Hold these crooks accountable for once and they might actually feel obliged to keep their campaign promises and support their party. This is how it should work instead of keeping another lying fossil in office until their 90 because the other candidate could maybe possibly be worse.
McConnell has proven he’s a spineless traitor. His ingrained entitlement mentality is exactly what is wrong with Washington and until we get his progressive ilk out of office we’ll never have the change we so badly need.

Buttercup on February 18, 2014 at 12:21 PM

He’s a spineless collaborator, but I would think it would be a bad thing to lose the seat.

Farnsworth on February 18, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Comment pages: 1 2 3