Jonathan Turley: The left’s indifference to Obama’s executive power grabs is beginning to border on a cult of personality

posted at 11:21 am on February 13, 2014 by Allahpundit

“Beginning”?

There’s nothing here that you haven’t heard before if you watched him testify before Congress in December but it’s still worth watching for two reasons. One is his tone, which has grown darker and more apocalyptic since then. More than once here he warns that Obama’s “enablers” are destined to rue the fact that they remained silent “during this period.” Precedents are being set that will be built on by future presidents of both parties; for all the complaining about executive overreach by Democrats circa 2006 and Republicans today, the cold realities of power are what they are. I’m tempted to say that it was O’s latest unlawful delay to ObamaCare’s employer mandate that soured Turley’s mood, but I don’t think that’s it. I think it was the State of the Union, where Obama embraced bypassing Congress as formal policy. Look out for the phrase “borders on authoritarianism.”

The other reason to watch is his debunking near the end of the “power of the purse” strategy to check Obama. Mike Lee told the Weekly Standard two days ago that that’s the way he thinks Congress should rein in the president: They’re not going to roll the political dice on impeachment and they can’t sue for lack of standing, but they can go ahead and cut off Obama’s money in areas where he’s exceeded his constitutional boundaries — in theory. The problem with that approach, says Turley, is that O’s not above unilaterally moving money around that’s been appropriated for other purposes. Congress can’t use the “power of the purse” if it doesn’t meaningfully enjoy that power either. So let me repeat a recommendation I made once before: The GOP should introduce a constitutional amendment broadening the legal parameters of standing so that citizens can sue the president for violating separation of powers. The precise language of that amendment would require hard thought; draft it too loosely and the executive branch will be sued for every move it makes, whether clearly constitutional or not. But the status quo, where Congress is effectively powerless to stop the president from making the rules up as he goes along, can’t go on. If you can’t get the votes for the amendment in Congress now, that’s okay — these things take time, and it’ll be useful at least to have Democrats on record as opposing limits on executive power. But get the ball rolling.


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Schadenfreude on February 13, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Still no answer to the simple specific questions from liberalrules?

Looks like it was just another troll-by

Athos on February 13, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Why should I do your homework for you?

liberalrules on February 13, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Because you’re the one who said that Bush was abusive in his use of Executive Orders; Athos challenged you to cite some concrete examples, and so did I. I even provided an official White House.gov link listing each and every EO that Bush issued, and what each of those EOs was for.

Since you’re the one accusing Bush of abusing EOs, the burden of proof is on you-not on the person you’re currently losing the debate to.

F-

Del Dolemonte on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Don’t feed the troll. As Flora pointed out upthread this one is here for Alinsky rule #5 amusement and nothing else. You won’t get a reasonable response so don’t bother.

Kataklysmic on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Why should I do your homework for you?

liberalrules on February 13, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Because troll, YOU claimed that Bush’s EO were more egregious and illegal than Obama’s EO’s – all that we asked for were the specific examples that supported your argument.

Since you can’t / won’t substantiate your argument as cogent and valid, then the only remaining conclusion is that your argument is neither cogent, valid, or accurate. The extension from that is that you are little more than an ideologue troll unwilling to debate, just pontificate and lecture.

Furthermore, if you had any reasonable level of reading comprehension, you would have seen that I and others have no problem castigating the GOP leadership for their failures to contest the abuses of power being undertaken by Barack Obama.

But that doesn’t fit what you want to believe – so rather than making cogent and valid points, you rant, rave, and slobber like an idiotarian.

Athos on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Why are conservatives terrified of the president?

Watching Ted Cruz on CSPAN yesterday, he admitted he puts on a good show in front of the cameras, but when he meets with the president he said he pees his pantaloons a little bit.

LeftoCenter on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Why should I do your homework for you?

liberalrules on February 13, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Is it Ok if he pays for your health insurance??

Well of course it is…..

BigWyo on February 13, 2014 at 3:14 PM

SubmarineDoc on February 13, 2014 at 3:09 PM

It takes 2/3 of the states to present amendments to the nation, and then 3/4 of the states to ratify any amendment. If we are that far gone that 3/4 of the states would repeal the 2nd or 10th Amendments then the Republic is dead. We either have the fortitude to make the changes ourselves, or we don’t.

NotCoach on February 13, 2014 at 3:17 PM

Why are conservatives terrified of the president?
LeftoCenter on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Ben Carson is unavailable for comment.

BigWyo on February 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Why are conservatives terrified of the president?

Watching Ted Cruz on CSPAN yesterday, he admitted he puts on a good show in front of the cameras, but when he meets with the president he said he pees his pantaloons a little bit.

LeftoCenter on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Got transgendered erotica writers block?

NotCoach on February 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Man, I hate it when you guys fight with a child.

May here razz me for liking verbaldouche or libdie. Well verbie and libbie are at least capable of forming sentences that don’t sound like a 3rd grader wrote them.

Another right wing talking points goes out in flames.

liberalrules on February 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM

And it’s ‘goes down in flames’, not ‘out in flames’.

Makes no goddamned sense whatsoever.

Lanceman on February 13, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Here’s a pretty simple question in my opinion:

If Republicans and conservatives truly feel Obama is breaking law, going for a power grab, abusing the power of the excutive branch and violating the Constitution of the United States, then why the hell won’t they go for impeachment?

LeftoCenter on February 13, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Maybe they’re waiting until November of this year, when they retake the Senate?

Or, they could be waiting on this case, which I mentioned on Page 1 of this thread. O’bama made four recess appointments in January 2012, when the Senate was not in recess. Three courts have found that his appointments were unconstitutional, and the Supreme Court has agreed to take up the case.

Or it could just be because they know that your side will immediately accuse them of Racism if they try to uphold the letter of the law and uphold the Constitution. O’bama’s being half-black makes both of those inconvenient institutions totally irrelevant, wouldn’t you agree?

Del Dolemonte on February 13, 2014 at 3:20 PM

*many here razz me.

Lanceman on February 13, 2014 at 3:21 PM

And it’s ‘goes down in flames’, not ‘out in flames’.

Makes no goddamned sense whatsoever.

LancePantherman on February 13, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Shut up more Panthererman.

NotCoach on February 13, 2014 at 3:21 PM

Shut up more Panthererman.

NotCoach on February 13, 2014 at 3:21 PM

You lousy SOCONS are all the same! You pray for rain in your pedophile filled churches so that obama can’t enjoy a friendly round of golf while 6 jillion of the less fortunater of us go without healthcare subsidiaries! I’m sure god will pay you back for all your meanesses to your fellow mans!

Pantherman on February 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Lanceman on February 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Why are conservatives terrified of the president?
LeftoCenter on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Ben Carson is unavailable for comment.

BigWyo on February 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Because he’s preparing for his next IRS audit?

AZCoyote on February 13, 2014 at 3:32 PM

Why are conservatives terrified of the president?
LeftoCenter on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Because they want to keep their jobs and not become part of Obama’s food stamp nation?

tommyboy on February 13, 2014 at 3:37 PM

And it’s ‘goes down in flames’, not ‘out in flames’.

Makes no goddamned sense whatsoever.

Lanceman on February 13, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Lighten up, engrish isn’t cheomi’s native language.

HumpBot Salvation on February 13, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Lighten up, engrish isn’t cheomi’s native language.

HumpBot Salvation on February 13, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Chioma.

:D

Lanceman on February 13, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Some colossal douche asked…

Why are conservatives terrified of the president?

The question would be, why is this president afraid of us?

And the onus to answer this question is obviously on the douche, given that we aren’t the ones passing arbitrary and capricious laws by executive fiat.

Alrighty then.

Eric in Hollywood on February 13, 2014 at 3:43 PM

And it’s ‘goes down in flames’, not ‘out in flames’.

Makes no goddamned sense whatsoever.

Lanceman on February 13, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Lighten up, engrish isn’t cheomi’s native language.

HumpBot Salvation on February 13, 2014 at 3:40 PM

True. It demonstrates that it is still thinking in its native language.

slickwillie2001 on February 13, 2014 at 3:45 PM

And it’s ‘goes down in flames’, not ‘out in flames’.

Makes no goddamned sense whatsoever.

Lanceman on February 13, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Lighten up, engrish isn’t cheomi’s native language.

HumpBot Salvation on February 13, 2014 at 3:40 PM

True. It demonstrates that it is still thinking in its native language.

slickwillie2001 on February 13, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Austrian, right?

Del Dolemonte on February 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Hypocritical obama-shit-consumers

Schadenfreude on February 13, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Turley: “…in our system it is often as important how you do something as what you do…”

The ends justify the means, biotch! The mob accepts that…why can’t you?

dont taze me bro on February 13, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Methinks conservatives a full of BS. And they have no spine.

LeftoCenter on February 13, 2014 at 3:02 PM

You’re not thinking, hued child.

Schadenfreude on February 13, 2014 at 3:55 PM

The left’s indifference to Obama’s executive power grabs is beginning to border on a cult of personality

I was gonna say that it wasn’t just the left’s indifference, that the GOP is just as guilty.

Then I realized that with a very few exceptions, the GOP IS the left, too.

LegendHasIt on February 13, 2014 at 3:56 PM

I’ll file this safely away under ‘T’ for Turley and ‘N’ for No Sh*t.

Lamont Cranston on February 13, 2014 at 3:58 PM

dont taze me bro on February 13, 2014 at 3:54 PM

/no sarc tag required, right?

dont taze me bro on February 13, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Obama has issued LESS executive orders than Bush and Reagan.
liberalrules on February 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Fewer. Literate leftists would use the word FEWER, not LESS.

/grammar nazi

LegendHasIt on February 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM

And it’s ‘goes down in flames’, not ‘out in flames’.

Makes no goddamned sense whatsoever.

Lanceman on February 13, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Lighten up, engrish isn’t cheomi’s native language.

HumpBot Salvation on February 13, 2014 at 3:40 PM

True. It demonstrates that it is still thinking in its native language.

slickwillie2001 on February 13, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Austrian, right?

Del Dolemonte on February 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Makes me wonder how many of our trolls really work in a Nazi-stooge George Soros-funded boiler room in India or some other hellhole.

slickwillie2001 on February 13, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Trolls, this will make your empty brains go poof.

Schadenfreude on February 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Why are conservatives terrified of the president?

Watching Ted Cruz on CSPAN yesterday, he admitted he puts on a good show in front of the cameras, but when he meets with the president he said he pees his pantaloons a little bit.

LeftoCenter on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Actually, it’s because Obama later admitted on C-span that he rapes and sexually molests his daughters every evening and has since they were born.

I would hate to have to be in a room with a child molester who raped his own children, wouldn’t you?

northdallasthirty on February 13, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Dallas, that snark would only be believable if they were sons, not daughters.

LegendHasIt on February 13, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Please look up the words dictator and dictatorship.

justltl on February 13, 2014 at 5:22 PM

True. It demonstrates that it is still thinking in its native language.

slickwillie2001 on February 13, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Austrian, right?

Del Dolemonte on February 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Ebonics.

Solaratov on February 13, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Did you know that the word “eb-o-nics” is a forbidden word?

Solaratov on February 13, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Do you think that it has to be someone wearing faux military garb and ordering mass executions?
It doesn’t.
It refers to an individual or small clique establishing laws without legislation by the people and their duly elected representatives.

The mass executions and other florid abuses follow afterwards.

justltl on February 13, 2014 at 5:28 PM

he pees his pantaloons a little bit.

LeftoCenter on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

So…you’re disappointed that you aren’t there to lap up the puddle?

Solaratov on February 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Turley’s smart enough to know this cuts both ways. He’s just trying to get out from the path of the pendulum before it swings in the other direction.

Frankly, I believe this is a dishonest attempt to cement Obama’s liberal gains and keep Republicans from reversing them- or worse.

Retribution is never pretty and Democrats can see the end may be Democrats want to kill the beast they created before it turns around and consumes them.

Marcus Traianus on February 13, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Does anyone else have a sense of urgency or impending doom about all of this?

justltl on February 13, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Barack Hussein Obama, mmm mmm mmm.

Fenris on February 13, 2014 at 11:23 AM

http://youtu.be/9Ty7WU872Lk

rottenrobbie on February 13, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Good Lord, I had completely forgotten this.

As chilling today as when I saw it the first time.

BabyGrace on February 13, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Why are trolls and Marxist, aka, dimocRATs allowed to comment here?

It really stinks up the place. Have we not heard their spew before? It’s the same failed and regurgitated crap.

Bleed_thelizard on February 13, 2014 at 5:50 PM

liberalrules on February 13, 2014

You cannot be for real. BTW you’re as dumb as they get. You’ve made the list of the top 5 dimmest posters….now here’s your rainbow star. Stick it on your arse and gtfo.

CWchangedhisNicagain on February 13, 2014 at 6:08 PM

The personality cult exists on both sides of the aisle. Need I look up the HA posts during the election praising Romney as an intelligent, handsome, successful, perfect, Christian family man when in truth he’s just another rich douchebag?

Federati on February 13, 2014 at 6:14 PM

The personality cult exists on both sides of the aisle. Need I look up the HA posts during the election praising Romney as an intelligent, handsome, successful, perfect, Christian family man when in truth he’s just another rich douchebag?

Federati on February 13, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Smells like Teen Spirit in here…

Del Dolemonte on February 13, 2014 at 6:35 PM

The States have to stop this. The Courts won’t. Having the ability to sue wont’ help. The States will have to defend their citizens from the encroachment of the federal government. The States will have to defend their citizens from being hounded by the IRS or the FBI or the EPA. The States, and county sheriffs, will have to put a stop to these things.

cptacek on February 13, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Obama’s lawlessness along with sic’ing the IRS on his political opponents are two eye openers to me. This isn’t America anymore. Least ways not one I recognize.

Although I was drafted and came near losing my life for the U.S. I no longer feel any loyalty toward it. Because I no longer see myself as a citizen. But rather as a resident under an occupying force. And I’m fairly certain that’s how the federal government sees me.

bluesdoc70 on February 13, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Federati on February 13, 2014 at 6:14 PM

*rolls eyes*

Take a look at the comments if you’re able to find one of those posts. Some personality cult.

INC on February 13, 2014 at 8:22 PM

The personality cult exists on both sides of the aisle. Need I look up the HA posts during the election praising Romney as an intelligent, handsome, successful, perfect, Christian family man when in truth he’s just another rich douchebag?

Federati on February 13, 2014 at 6:14 PM

You are so envious of Romney it’s palpable.

itsspideyman on February 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Didn’t Obama often say he wish he could rule this nation like the leaders do in China??? He has often said he wished there was no congress to slow him down. He thinks like a 2nd or 3rd world dictator. He has no personality and he speaks like Nixon especially when he says “Can I make this clear”. Anyone ojld enough here remembers how Nixon used the statement ” I can make this perfectly clear”.. My main worry is this fool will be in the White House the rest of his life with the media’s support.

garydt on February 13, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Congrats 51% of America , you’ve got yourself a dictator.

Pegcity on February 14, 2014 at 12:46 AM

Look in my eyes, what do you see?
The cult of personality
I know your anger, I know your dreams
I’ve been everything you want to be
I’m the cult of personality

How clairvoyant of Living Colour huh?

Brock Robamney on February 14, 2014 at 7:32 AM

Why are conservatives terrified of the president?

Watching Ted Cruz on CSPAN yesterday, he admitted he puts on a good show in front of the cameras, but when he meets with the president he said he pees his pantaloons a little bit.

LeftoCenter on February 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Cruz knows the president’s views and capabilities. You personally address a despot with total unchecked power, you know regards you as his mortal enemy. All the while aware 90 percent of your party has been already bought and want you gone, or ran aware in fear.
Kinda makes walking down a vacant alley at night seem rather cozy, huh? Feel free to check your accoutrements if need be.
Is it me or have you noticed the president doesn’t lie unless he’s speaking? Has a very negative correlation working don’t you think? A real tell if he thought he could bluff anyone anymore.

onomo on February 14, 2014 at 8:00 AM

Barack Obama has become an ENEMY OF THE STATE, by the very definition of “…enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC…”. He was ALWAYS a threat, even before he was elected President the 1st time. Much like how Hitler broadcast to the world what he intended to do in his book ‘Mein Kaumf’ before he began to do so, Obama – the self-professed student of Communist Frank Marshall Davis / Socialist Saul Alynski / Hate-spewing Anti-American ‘pastor’ Jeremiah Wright – promised to ‘fundamentally change the United States’. Michelle ‘Antoinette’ Obama openly declared she had NEVER been proud of the United States until her husband, the son of an American-hating Anti-Colonialist, was elected President.

Since then he has roven to be an Islamic Extremist Sympathizer, a gun runner to Terrorists and Mexican Drug Cartels, an aider and abettor of criminal illegals, the protector of ‘convicted’ Felonious Ferjurers within his own Cabinet, has violated the Constitution THOUSANDS OF TIMES (over 2,500 times by modifying the ACA law alone), has broken the law numerous times, has and continues to use the IRS to target his political enemis – Conservatives & the TEA Party – to benefit his own re-election and the 2014 Senate elections, and is using the NSA to illegally spy on Americans and world leaders.

Obama has fundamentally changed the U.S. into his own personal /Banana Republic’ where he is the ‘el Presidente’.

And if people read the news carefully they will remember seeing how Homeland Security just bought millions of body bags and hundreds of thousands of rounds of ‘sniper ammo’, after already having purchased hundreds of thousands of hollow-point ammo and other guns/ammo. It seems as if Obama is expecting the ‘sheep’ to eventually wake up and try to take their country back…

easyt65 on February 14, 2014 at 9:34 AM

A++

Pless1foEngrish on February 15, 2014 at 11:06 PM

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