Senate overcomes filibuster on clean debt-ceiling hike — with a dozen Republican votes

posted at 4:01 pm on February 12, 2014 by Allahpundit

Ted Cruz vowed yesterday that he’d object if Reid tried to make this easy for Republicans by passing the bill with a simple majority voice vote. Sixty votes or bust, said Cruz, just like it is for cloture on any other bill. Make everyone stand up and be counted. And so the suspense mounted: Could Mitch McConnell find five Republicans willing to join 55 Democrats in breaking a filibuster of a clean debt-ceiling hike?

He found 12. One of whom is named “Mitch McConnell.”

That’s the cloture vote. The vote on the final bill itself, which was academic once the filibuster was defeated, went strict party-line at 55-43. In other words, every one of the 12 who helped Democrats advance a clean debt-ceiling hike turned around and voted no on the meaningless final vote to provide themselves with a fig leaf once conservatives start attacking them as sellouts.

Republicans are, as usual, mad at Cruz:

Senate Republicans — unwilling to default on the nation’s debt but hoping to avoid voting for any debt ceiling increase — seethed at Mr. Cruz’s move, which many said was purely political and which forced them to scramble to produce at least five votes to end debate and move on to a final vote.

Senator John Hoeven, Republican of North Dakota, simply smiled when asked if he was annoyed with Mr. Cruz’s filibuster threat. “We’re working to see what we can put together, but I don’t know yet how it’s going to go,” he said.

Explain something to me: Why did McConnell and Cornyn vote yes? I realize it’s tradition for the leadership to step up and jump off the cliff on a tough vote like this (Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy, and Issa all voted for yesterday’s debt-ceiling hike in the House), but they didn’t need to set an example to get reliable squishes like Collins, Kirk, and Murkowski to cross the aisle. McCain, I’m sure, relished sticking it to Cruz by helping to beat his filibuster and called McConnell “very courageous” afterward for taking the plunge with them. But that’s my point — doubtless all 12 Republican yeses on cloture today would prefer to have Mitch McConnell back in the Senate next year than see him replaced by Matt Bevin. Why not give him and Cornyn, who’s also up for reelection, a pass on this one? Or maybe they did and McConnell and Cornyn decided that they were duty bound to vote yes anyway. Oh well. Easy lay-up for Team Bevin’s press shop.


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I`m amused that we still refer to it as a “ceiling.”

ThePrez on February 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM

R porksters, unite!!!

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM

GOP Senators voting to break filibuster:
Barrasso
Collins
Corker
Cornyn
Flake
Johanns(retiring)
Hatch
Kirk
McCain
McConnell
Murkowski
Thune

The usual suspects.

Democrats in Republican clothing.

Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Do as Australians do, away with the pretense. They removed their ‘ceiling’.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Mccain & flake.. ugggg

wolly4321 on February 12, 2014 at 4:04 PM

This is why Bevin’s potential TARP flip-flop can be overlooked. McConnell is a disaster who needs to be made an example of. It’ll be far easier to hold Bevin’s feet to the fire than McConnell if he’s given another 6 years.

Doughboy on February 12, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2014 at 4:04 PM

DIRCs?

ThePrez on February 12, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Print/Yellin and spend R/Ds, unlimited.

Economics r not us.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 4:05 PM

unwilling to default on the nation’s debt but hoping to avoid voting for any debt ceiling increase

I’ve about had it with the default lie. Why won’t the GOP address the fact that not borrowing money to pay back more borrowed money won’t result in default?

It’s infuriating.

Charlemagne on February 12, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Remind me again why I care if the R’s gain senate majority this year?

Kimberino on February 12, 2014 at 4:06 PM

This is a very discouraging moment and I hope the good people of Kentucky send Mitch McConnell to defeat either in the primary or the general.

This party has lost its way and I am not sure anyone can put this “Humpty Dumpty” back together again.

cardinalmike on February 12, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Remind me again why I care if the R’s gain senate majority this year?

Kimberino on February 12, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Harry Reid.

Charlemagne on February 12, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Barrasso Collins Corker Cornyn Flake Johanns(retiring) Hatch Kirk McCain McConnell Murkowski Thune

A better assortment of harlots you can’t find in the leftist latrine.

It’s shocking that scumhag Ayotte is now among them.

Throw McConnell out. Let him manage his accumulated wealth, no more.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 4:08 PM

If there hadn’t been that government shutdown, the GOP would have really fought this time…
And Mitch and his buds would not have had to vote for this if Cruz had kept his mouth shut…..
And,…

d1carter on February 12, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Might as well eliminate the ceiling altogether…GOP and Dems keep spending like there is no tomorrow…just look at the Farm Bill..

PatriotRider on February 12, 2014 at 4:09 PM

It’s shocking that scumhag Ayotte is now not among them.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 4:10 PM

When it all comes crashing down there will be no place for these traitors to hide…

PatriotRider on February 12, 2014 at 4:10 PM

The Uniparty demands your tax remitting compliance in order to fund their ever growing thirst for spending your, your children’s, and your grandchildren’ money. Resistance will be dealt with swiftly.

Franklin100 on February 12, 2014 at 4:11 PM

If there hadn’t been that government shutdown, the GOP would have really fought this time…
And Mitch and his buds would not have had to vote for this if Cruz had kept his mouth shut…..
And,…

d1carter on February 12, 2014 at 4:08 PM

You don’t really believe that do you?

cardinalmike on February 12, 2014 at 4:11 PM

I’m rather surprised that Burr didn’t join in the idiocy. He’s famous for yes votes during meaningful cloture and then no during the vote itself.

kpguru on February 12, 2014 at 4:11 PM

You know what, Dear Leader really can do what he wants…

d1carter on February 12, 2014 at 4:11 PM

The Uniparty demands your tax remitting compliance in order to fund their ever growing thirst for spending your, your children’s, and your grandchildren’ money. Resistance will not be tolerated and will be dealt with swiftly.

Franklin100 on February 12, 2014 at 4:12 PM

If there hadn’t been that government shutdown, the GOP would have really fought this time…
And Mitch and his buds would not have had to vote for this if Cruz had kept his mouth shut…..
And,…

d1carter on February 12, 2014 at 4:08 PM

That’s the real heresy to this crowd: that they had to go on record as voting for cloture. Otherwise, they could just vote “no” on the actual bill (as they did) knowing the Dems had majority sewed up and pretend they were really against hiking the ceiling.

Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2014 at 4:12 PM

This is a very discouraging moment and I hope the good people of Kentucky send Mitch McConnell to defeat either in the primary or the general.

This party has lost its way and I am not sure anyone can put this “Humpty Dumpty” back together again.

cardinalmike on February 12, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Well his only real opponent so far in the Primaries in Matt Bevin a Democrat in Name Only, so I don’t see that happening.

Heck Matt Bevin has been endorsed by more Democrats here than Republicans so far. Just sayin…..

Johnnyreb on February 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM

McCain has certainly made Flake his b*tch and turned him into a reliable mini-me for himself.

Kataklysmic on February 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Republicans are, as usual, mad at Cruz

Badge of honor!!!

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM

As much as I dislike Boehner and McConnell, they did the right thing here. The debt ceiling maneuver is politically toxic to Republicans. Obama successfully convinced the country that not raising the debt ceiling means we default on our sovereign debt and the world plunges into darkness. Each time we’ve tried to hold up the debt ceiling, we have lost–badly. Trying the tactic a fourth time will only make things worse.

Outlander on February 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Flake has the best name in the world, right after Charles Blow.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM

I`m amused that we still refer to it as a “ceiling.”

ThePrez on February 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM

One man’s ceiling is another man’s floor.

Next floor: Zimbabwe.

Mark Boabaca on February 12, 2014 at 4:14 PM

With McConnell unlikely to return to the Senate next year, who will the Republican leader be?— Christian Whiton (@ChristianWhiton) February 11, 2014

Ted Cruz may so far be officially staying out of incumbent primaries, but he just gave Mitch McConnell challenger Matt Bevin a leg up.— Kasie Hunt (@kasie) February 12, 2014

Might_Is_Right on February 12, 2014 at 4:14 PM

McCain has certainly made Flake his b*tch and turned him into a reliable mini-me for himself.

Kataklysmic on February 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM

I’ve wondered if the price of admission to the Senate for Flake was to allow McCain to personally perform a lobotomy on him.

Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2014 at 4:14 PM

US debt ceiling debate 2013-2014
51m
Senate passes 1-year extension of debt limit on 55-43 vote; measure goes to President Obama – @rollcall
end of alert

canopfor on February 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Explain something to me: Why did McConnell and Cornyn vote yes?

a) Kentucky Republicans do not care about the debt ceiling. McConnell knows his voters. This will not hurt him at all. Y’all can throw all the money and blog rants you want at Matt Bevin, but he isn’t going to win.

b) McConnell knows he is going to win his primary and is positioning himself now to counter the “Senator No” attacks he is going to get from Democrats in the fall. He’s already run ads touting his “leadership” in ending the shutdown and winning the sequester.

c) As Leader, McConnell could not ask other Republicans to make a distasteful vote that he was not willing to make himself.

rockmom on February 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Any new “dam” money for Mitch in this one..?

d1carter on February 12, 2014 at 4:17 PM

The world is completely upside down. Let’s see… When you’re deep in debt, you borrow more money to pay the interest! When you’ve got millions of people who are unemployed, you import unskilled illegal aliens to take jobs. When you want to create jobs, you export your manufacturing sector to third world countries (think NAFTA). When you want to repeal Obamacare, you ridicule anybody in your own party who dares put forth legislation repealing Obamacare. When you want to win the Senate, you alienate a majority of voters of your own party. I could go on.

Mahdi on February 12, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Remind me again why I care if the R’s gain senate majority this year?
Kimberino on February 12, 2014 at 4:06 PM
Harry Reid.
Charlemagne on February 12, 2014 at 4:06 PM

It’s this kind of logic that infuriates me. Either Harry Reid is in charge where the democrats get 100% of they want, or the republicans are in charge where the democrats get 100% of what they want. Sorry, I’ll pass

Brock Robamney on February 12, 2014 at 4:17 PM

In other words, every one of the 12 who helped Democrats advance a clean debt-ceiling hike turned around and voted no on the meaningless final vote to provide themselves with a fig leaf once conservatives start attacking them as sellouts.

disgusting. not only do they have unwise ideas about the economy. they are dishonest, too. if you’re going to raise the debt ceiling, at least be honest about it!!

Republicans are, as usual, mad at Cruz

of course. get mad at the one person with the most common sense.

Senate Republicans seethed at Mr. Cruz’s move, which many said was purely political

oh HE’S being political?!! it’s totally not political at all for you to vote yes on cloture and no on the bill, but it’s okay for you to call HIM political?!!! what incredible bs. i can’t stand these idiots.

Sachiko on February 12, 2014 at 4:19 PM

When you realize they are all on the same team, it makes a lot more sense.

d1carter on February 12, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Vote for Dwayne Stovall in the TX Primary March 4.

elowe on February 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Explain something to me: Why did McConnell and Cornyn vote yes?

Maybes Hopey’s NSA has some kind of goodies, er, goods on them!!
(sarc)

canopfor on February 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM

As much as I dislike Boehner and McConnell, they did the right thing here. The debt ceiling maneuver is politically toxic to Republicans. Obama successfully convinced the country that not raising the debt ceiling means we default on our sovereign debt and the world plunges into darkness. Each time we’ve tried to hold up the debt ceiling, we have lost–badly. Trying the tactic a fourth time will only make things worse.

Outlander on February 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM

+100

Obama has also been very successful with his rhetoric that raising the debt ceiling simply enables the U.S. to “pay the bills we have already rung up.” Republicans have never effectively countered that and most voters seem to believe it.

The time for doing something about spending is, you know, when actual spending bills are being written and debated. The way to get the debt under control is to stop voting for more spending, not to force a default.

rockmom on February 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM

It’s this kind of logic that infuriates me. Either Harry Reid is in charge where the democrats get 100% of they want, or the republicans are in charge where the democrats get 100% of what they want. Sorry, I’ll pass

Brock Robamney on February 12, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Exactly. After a lifetime of supporting Republicans, I am now done with the Republican Party.

Mahdi on February 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM

but they didn’t need to set an example to get reliable squishes like Collins, Kirk, and Murkowski to cross the aisle.

Add Flake to that list. He’s earned it with many votes.

Wigglesworth on February 12, 2014 at 4:21 PM

I hope Bevin whoops his ass come election time. Hellfire!

Bmore on February 12, 2014 at 4:21 PM

As Leader, McConnell could not ask other Republicans to make a distasteful vote that he was not willing to make himself.

rockmom on February 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Here’s a crazy thought. Don’t ask your fellow Republicans to vote for a debt ceiling hike. Oppose it. Publicly. If he’s such a staunch fiscal conservative, why won’t he vote like one?

Doughboy on February 12, 2014 at 4:21 PM

a) Kentucky Republicans do not care about the debt ceiling. McConnell knows his voters. This will not hurt him at all. Y’all can throw all the money and blog rants you want at Matt Bevin, but he isn’t going to win.

b) McConnell knows he is going to win his primary and is positioning himself now to counter the “Senator No” attacks he is going to get from Democrats in the fall. He’s already run ads touting his “leadership” in ending the shutdown and winning the sequester.

Agreed, 100%. The Old Turtle isn’t going anywhere.

But we do have opportunities elsewhere in the Senate and he may perhaps be removed from leadership. That’s got to be the goal regarding McConnell and for Boehner in the House.

Art Vandelay on February 12, 2014 at 4:22 PM

The way to get the debt under control is to stop voting for more spending, not to force a default.

rockmom on February 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM

You mean like the pork-packed Farm Bill that the Republicans voted for?

Mahdi on February 12, 2014 at 4:22 PM

b) McConnell knows he is going to win his primary and is positioning himself now to counter the “Senator No” attacks he is going to get from Democrats in the fall. He’s already run ads touting his “leadership” in ending the shutdown and winning the sequester.
rockmom on February 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Mitch McConnell approval in Kentucky: 32%
Barack Obama approval in Kentucky: 34%

LOL! Mitch McConnell has lower job performance rating than Obambi in his home state!!

Ditch Mitch!!

Might_Is_Right on February 12, 2014 at 4:22 PM

I’ve wondered if the price of admission to the Senate for Flake was to allow McCain to personally perform a lobotomy on him.

Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2014 at 4:14 PM

…among other acts that end in “omy”.

Kataklysmic on February 12, 2014 at 4:22 PM

This vote displays one of the classic traits of RINOs like McConnell and Cornyn. They show leadership to advance the left’s agenda, but melt away when presented with the opportunity to make a stand on something conservative.

Wigglesworth on February 12, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Pathetic that these losers have to denigrate Cruz, et al for pointing out their lack of backbone. Don’t blame someone else for you’re shortcomings – that’s what Democrats are for.

HughJass on February 12, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Flake and mccain have to go………………… Both turd RINOS.

nobama1267 on February 12, 2014 at 4:23 PM

and that my Texas tejans is why Stovall or Stockman needs your vote for senator

DanMan on February 12, 2014 at 4:26 PM

What we are witnessing here is a coalition government, of by and for parties.

nobar on February 12, 2014 at 4:26 PM

The way to get the debt under control is to stop voting for more spending, not to force a default.

rockmom on February 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM

The idea was to use it as a lever to cut spending, but the spineless nature of politicians has rendered it useless. The clueless political leaders of the GOP has made it toxic.

It would have been the definition of insanity to do it again.

Nevertheless, Cruz forces them to show themselves. And that’s the beginning of the process. Once they are removed actual reductions in spending might occur after 2016.

For now, if they do gain control, I want them to just shut Congress down for the remaining two years of this ‘president’.

Art Vandelay on February 12, 2014 at 4:27 PM

You know, some of us remember what happened in October. The HA punditacracy was lauding caving completely on the budget battles because there were “opportunities” down the road- this vote was specifically one of them. I think “surrender now to live and fight another day” was a bit of stupidity being thrown around then.

Look how that turned out. The GOP caved again and instead of being critical of the “leadership” they are, once again being hailed the adults in a room full of those radical Tea Party monsters. Well speaking as one of those monsters all I can say is that there will be no GOP if the surrender weasels continue to not only ignore but deliberatly punish the Tea Party.

Boehner failed yesterday because he has divided the GOP into his friends and his enemies. That’s not leadership it is the same thing the filthy bastard in the White House is doing. A revolt within the GOP is coming. It is inevitable so long as the surrender weasels think they hold all the cards.

Happy Nomad on February 12, 2014 at 4:27 PM

The way to get the debt under control is to stop voting for more spending, not to force a default.

rockmom on February 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM

What a novel concept. Except that your heart-throb Paul Ryan just negotiated a budget that increases spending.

Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2014 at 4:29 PM

The time for doing something about spending is, you know, when actual spending bills are being written and debated. The way to get the debt under control is to stop voting for more spending, not to force a default.

rockmom on February 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM

but congress (both parties) just keeps spending and spending. i don’t know why they would stop.

Sachiko on February 12, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Each time we’ve tried to hold up the debt ceiling, we have lost–badly because liberals in the GOP caucus with democrats. Trying the tactic a fourth time will only make things worse.

Outlander on February 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Just clearing things up for you Outlander.

DanMan on February 12, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Here’s a crazy thought. Don’t ask your fellow Republicans to vote for a debt ceiling hike. Oppose it. Publicly. If he’s such a staunch fiscal conservative, why won’t he vote like one?

Doughboy on February 12, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Because they have been selling you a bill of goods. Mitch McConnell knows that Debt Ceiling is not something to play with. It was a good tool to whip up the base into a frenzy.

McConnell and Boehner now realize that they let the base get whipped up too much and that base is now convinced that defaulting on national debt is good thing, conservative thing.

Hence McConnell and Boehner have now quit on the base. The era of using Debt ceiling as a hostage is OVER.

RIP: Debt Ceiling Hostage Taking Tactic 2011-2014.

Might_Is_Right on February 12, 2014 at 4:31 PM

McConnell is not going anywhere, except hopefully as Majority Leader next year as long as the Obamacare mess continues and the economy stays weak.

McConnell and Boehner were correct to get this off the table, not extending the debt ceiling is a losing issue for Republicans. I hope we can get the crazy spending under control, but there is only so much one can with Obama in the White House and Harry Reid in the Senate

Dr.B on February 12, 2014 at 4:31 PM

…among other acts that end in “omy”.

Kataklysmic on February 12, 2014 at 4:22 PM

LOL

Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Jeff Flake must be pretty confident that he can beat back any challenge to his right next election, considering how much he’s moved to the left starting from the day he took office. You expect it from McCain and those other boobs who’ve been in office for decades, but he’s hardly what I would consider “safe”.

changer1701 on February 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM

I am officially DONE with the GOP. Time for that party to join the Whigs.

ConstantineXI on February 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Each time we’ve tried to hold up the debt ceiling, we have lost–badly because liberals in the GOP caucus with dems. Trying the tactic a fourth time will only make things worse.

Outlander on February 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Let’s be clear about the reasons okay? They will never win a media war. Ditching principal seems to come so easily to them though.

DanMan on February 12, 2014 at 4:35 PM

In other words, every one of the 12 who helped Democrats advance a clean debt-ceiling hike turned around and voted no on the meaningless final vote to provide themselves with a fig leaf once conservatives start attacking them as sellouts.

To borrow a phrase from that great statesman, John Kerry, “I was FOR it before I was AGAINST it”. Seems to be the recurring theme of the GOPe leadership as they continue to collaborate with and enable the left to further their socialist agenda…

Gohawgs on February 12, 2014 at 4:36 PM

oops, delayed post, my bad

DanMan on February 12, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Explain something to me: Why did McConnell and Cornyn vote yes?

Because the establishment is on the ropes and losing the fight. They’re circling the wagons – and every man capable of carrying a rifle is to report to the front lines.

THAT’S WHY.

It’s a sign they are WEAK – in their own party.

KEEP THE SKEER ON ‘EM!!

HondaV65 on February 12, 2014 at 4:36 PM

I am officially DONE with the GOP. Time for that party to join the Whigs.

ConstantineXI on February 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM

primaries my friend, primaries

DanMan on February 12, 2014 at 4:37 PM

So, tell me, exactly WHAT is going to change if the Repubes get control of the Senate? Obama still has a pen. He’s going to veto everything they send him.

Unless of course they send him something he likes and wants to sign. In which case, America STILL loses.

Nothing at all will change with (R) in control of both houses.

Left_is_Wrong on February 12, 2014 at 4:38 PM

LOL! Mitch McConnell has lower job performance rating than Obambi in his home state!!

Ditch Mitch!!

Might_Is_Right on February 12, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Yep.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2014 at 4:38 PM

I hope we can get the crazy spending under control, but there is only so much one can with Obama in the White House and Harry Reid in the Senate

Dr.B on February 12, 2014 at 4:31 PM

You forgot to include the guy who controls the Nation’s purse, John Boehner…

Gohawgs on February 12, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Jeff Flake must be pretty confident that he can beat back any challenge to his right next election, considering how much he’s moved to the left starting from the day he took office. You expect it from McCain and those other boobs who’ve been in office for decades, but he’s hardly what I would consider “safe”.

changer1701 on February 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Flake barely pulled off his election against the Dem. He will not win the next one. He’ll beat back any primary challengers with the help of McCain’s deep-pocketed octagenarian rino coalition but he’ll get whipped like a rented mule by the Dem in the general.

Kataklysmic on February 12, 2014 at 4:39 PM

I see Lindsey Graham’s name is missing from the back-stabbing list for once. His 4 very good primary challengers are working wonders with McCain’s boy.

SouthernGent on February 12, 2014 at 4:39 PM

ROFL

It’s ok though, when it comes time to rename a federal flight zone in Virginia after Harry Reid’s wife, the GOP will stand as firm and unmovable as Gibraltar.

Bishop on February 12, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Thanks for nothing Johanns. Nebraska will not miss your presence in the Senate.

Yakko77 on February 12, 2014 at 4:40 PM

This “Republic” has so got to burn!!

Deano1952 on February 12, 2014 at 4:40 PM

McConnell and Boehner were correct to get this off the table, not extending the debt ceiling is a losing issue for Republicans. I hope we can get the crazy spending under control, but there is only so much one can with Obama in the White House and Harry Reid in the Senate

Dr.B on February 12, 2014 at 4:31 PM

So what the hell have they done? Seriously, if you are going to make such a goddamned stupid comment like that you need to back it up with precisely what the hell they have done other than cave time and again.

Happy Nomad on February 12, 2014 at 4:41 PM

The Hall of Shame.

Sherman1864 on February 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM

I am officially DONE with the GOP. Time for that party to join the Whigs.

ConstantineXI on February 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM

primaries my friend, primaries

DanMan on February 12, 2014 at 4:37 PM

“But..but..Christine O’Donnell, Sharon Angle, ELEVENTY!!!!”
/Karl Rove & Co.

Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM

That’s what I said wolly

Cripe

Flake and McCain

cmsinaz on February 12, 2014 at 4:43 PM

I would be ok with a move like this if other things were being accomplished . . . Actual prosecution of IRS employee’s, serious investigation and prosecution of the Benghazi disgrace, roll back of regulations etc., etc. Nothing will really change, sure some tinkering around the edges and that is all that a president Romney would have done in my opinion, so my attitude is whatever. We as a society, culture and nation of laws are on the downward slope. I do not know if we will collapse in a year, 10 or 20+. My current MO is to operate as if the collapse is closer then further away. Plan for my children’s future the same way. I just do not see things changing for the better unless something big happens i.e. 10 or more Ted Cruz like senators are elected in quick succession. 50 for the house. I am not betting on that happening.

IronSun on February 12, 2014 at 4:44 PM

It’s ok though, when it comes time to rename a federal flight zone in Virginia after Harry Reid’s wife, the GOP will stand as firm and unmovable as Gibraltar.

Bishop on February 12, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Fitting since Harry Reid has always reminded me of the rear end of a Barbary Macaque.

Happy Nomad on February 12, 2014 at 4:46 PM

McConnell and Boehner were correct to get this off the table, not extending the debt ceiling is a losing issue for Republicans. I hope we can get the crazy spending under control, but there is only so much one can with Obama in the White House and Harry Reid in the Senate

Dr.B on February 12, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Ah the mentality of deficiency!

Cowards – all of them.

“Only so much you can do?” What kind of coward are you – you got 20 year old kids in Afghanistan fighting for YOU and you’re asking them to do impossible things and they are f*cking doing it.

But you won’t risk criticism from the press?

Let me tell what McConnell and Boehner have done – they’ve killed the GOP. You think they got rid of a problem? No – they just sealed the deal on a much deeper one.

Conservatives are walking bro – right out the door on the GOP!

HondaV65 on February 12, 2014 at 4:48 PM

“But..but..Christine O’Donnell, Sharon Angle, ELEVENTY!!!!”
/Karl Rove & Co.
Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM

But Bob Dole, john McCain mitt Romney

Brock Robamney on February 12, 2014 at 4:49 PM

I would be ok with a move like this if other things were being accomplished . . . Actual prosecution of IRS employee’s, serious investigation and prosecution of the Benghazi disgrace, roll back of regulations etc., etc.

IronSun on February 12, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Exactly – but the party of Eunuchs just rolls over and asks for more d**k.

HondaV65 on February 12, 2014 at 4:49 PM

OT: I wonder if Ray Nagin will take one of those school buses to prison..?

d1carter on February 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM

FELLOW TEXANS!

WE MUST UNITE TOGETHER TO REMOVE JOHN CORNYN! WE CAN DO BETTER THAN HIM!

If you listen to talk radio in Texas, you will hear non-stop radio ads from John Cornyn touting how anti-Obama he is. How bad Obama has been, how much damage he will do, and how much damage he has already done. And how conservative he is. But notice his ads do not contain messages on anything he has actually done. His ads simply consist of how bad Obama is and how John Cornyn is against Obama.

But when push comes to shove, Cornyn is right along with the GOP establishment and other RINOs and has done nothing to fight for conservative, limited government values and works behind the scenes to defeat conservatives.

WE MUST DEFEAT HIM!

tcufrog on February 12, 2014 at 4:52 PM

OT: I wonder if Ray Nagin will take one of those school buses to prison..?

d1carter on February 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM

I don’t know but he’ll be making license plates to put on all of them!

HondaV65 on February 12, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Ditch Mitch!!

Might_Is_Right on February 12, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Do you live in Kentucky? Who would you vote for to replace him?

Parroting popular slogans is not a viable election strategy.

Johnnyreb on February 12, 2014 at 4:58 PM

I`m amused that we still refer to it as a “ceiling.”

ThePrez on February 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM

It’s more like a retractable roof.

NY2SC on February 12, 2014 at 4:58 PM

OT: I wonder if Ray Nagin will take one of those school buses to prison..?

d1carter on February 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM

I don’t know but he’ll be making license plates to put on all of them!

HondaV65 on February 12, 2014 at 4:55 PM

But no “Choose Life” ones.

Bitter Clinger on February 12, 2014 at 5:01 PM

As much as I dislike Boehner and McConnell, they did the right thing here. The debt ceiling maneuver is politically toxic to Republicans. Obama successfully convinced the country that not raising the debt ceiling means we default on our sovereign debt and the world plunges into darkness. Each time we’ve tried to hold up the debt ceiling, we have lost–badly. Trying the tactic a fourth time will only make things worse.

Outlander on February 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Bingo..until our ‘leaders’ get serious about entitlement reform, nothing will be done. The debt limit is debt already incurred. SSA/Medicare…Boomers are the reason.

Redford on February 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

That Cruz Missile is about as threatening as the crap North Korea attempts launch every now and then.

The more he angers the GOP establishment, the more his chances of being the GOP nominee in 2016 slips. Not he had a decent chance anyway.

LeftoCenter on February 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM

‘pubs, “I voted for it before I voted against it”. Will the last honest ‘pub in DC please turn out the torch before slithering back into their Gila monster holes. When will these inside-baseball, Machiavellian Villain crapola perma-frost Senawhores understand that REAL PEOPLE don’t give a shinola about their machinations to gain/maintain power? Their ‘game’ is our loss. TERM LIMITS, NOW!

vnvet on February 12, 2014 at 5:05 PM

I hate the Republicans more than the Democrats who are at least honest about wanting to rob the taxpayers.

Cindy Munford on February 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM

@ Cindy

Why so hostile? Hate is a pretty strong word.

LeftoCenter on February 12, 2014 at 5:09 PM

How many decades should Mitch “serve”..?

d1carter on February 12, 2014 at 5:10 PM

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