Powers: I’m getting tired of defending ObamaCare, too

posted at 12:01 pm on February 12, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

The obvious question, then, is … why continue? Both Kirsten Powers and Ron Fournier have spent the last day offering cris des coeurs over the incompetence of the White House, as the National Journal columnist did yesterday and Powers did last night on Fox News Special Report (via RCP and Truth Revolt):

KIRSTEN POWERS: Well, I think his explanation is probably the true explanation, that they need to do this, but at the same time, it’s now gotten to the point where it seems like there’s an exemption made for pretty much everybody except for individuals. A lot of people who have really been screwed over by the law, you know, who are left without insurance or with extremely expensive insurance. So, I think that Ron Fournier of The National Journal wrote something that ran today about –

BRET BAIER: This was after he expressed himself last night on the panel.

POWERS: The headline is why I’m getting tired of defending Obamacare. And I’m going to say amen, brother, because it’s exactly how I feel. People who have supported the law, who support universal health care, are constantly put in the position of having to defend this president, who has really incompetently put this together, rolled it out, and that’s why he has to do this. It’s why he has to keep doing this, because it’s not working.

The objection from both assumes that this project had a hope of succeeding in the first place. Let’s not forget that ObamaCare passed nearly four years ago, and HHS had 42 months of lead time until its rollout date. Four months after that, the White House keeps shifting deadlines, plainly to avoid the political consequences of its utter failure and ineptitude. How long is long enough to climb off the bandwagon?

Fournier’s argument on that question rests on a supposed lack of alternatives:

I want the ACA to work because the GOP has not offered a serious alternative that can pass Congress.

That, however, is a circular argument — because a Congress controlled by Democrats in one chamber will not pass any kind of replacement for ObamaCare, no matter how “serious” or workable it might be.  Harry Reid wouldn’t even bring it onto the agenda, let alone schedule a floor vote, and Democrats would close ranks with the White House even if he did. Fournier’s argument boils down to the acceptance that Democrats won’t change their minds, so we may as well keep cheering on the failure, and hope that the incompetents that produced it over four years can fix it in six months. That’s absurd, but it’s the final fig leaf for less-partisan supporters of ObamaCare.

Fournier’s colleague Sam Baker argues that Obama’s doing most of the damage to his law now, not Republicans:

Republicans have done everything they can think of to strike down Obamacare, but they’ve still only managed to come in second place. For all the House votes to repeal, defund, or weaken Obamacare, some of the most significant setbacks for the law have come from the administration itself.

Monday’s delay in the law’s employer mandate was just the latest in a series of self-inflicted wounds, just like the HealthCare.gov launch and delays in several programs that simply weren’t ready for prime time.

To be clear, the self-inflicted wounds haven’t been fatal. Obamacare is moving forward—and the doomsayers’ prophecies have fallen flat: People are signing up, premiums are lower than expected, and the law’s basic survival is assured. It gets stronger every month as more people pour into new insurance marketplaces in each state.

But the law does have a specific vision of the future of health insurance. And to hit that vision, it relies on a delicate balance of popular carrots—think coverage for those with preexisting conditions—and unpopular sticks, such as the ever-controversial individual mandate. And the administration keeps chipping away at unpopular parts—sometimes directly, and sometimes by handing Republicans a political weapon.

By the way, who’s going to fix the website, which defenders have mostly cited as the main obstacle on the path to Nirvana? The names have changed, but the faces look awfully familiar:

After denigrating the work of CGI and replacing it as the largest contractor on the federal health care website, the Obama administration is negotiating with the company to extend its work on the project for a few months.

And the new prime contractor, Accenture, is trying to recruit and hire CGI employees to work under its supervision.

I’m sure that will work out well…


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My collie says:

What a coincidence! There are many of us that long ago grew tired of defending the sincerity of Kirsten Powers’ foolishness. We should no longer make allowances for her or her ilk. Like all Democrats, she should be held accountable for the damage that her stupidity does to our families.

The trouble is, accountability usually leads to litigation. And we would be equally foolish to make stupidity a crime. If only we could bring back the days when a public shaming was effective. These people seem to be impervious to it. John Adams was right. A republic is not going to be adequate to govern the caliber of people that make up this kind of society.

CyberCipher on February 12, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Oh, the despicable, lying leftist scum are going to take care of those little problems, rest assured. They’ll tell you exactly what you can and can’t eat (don’t even think of any salt, Big Gulps, red meat – it’s soy beans and tofu for everyone!) and everyone will have mandatory morning calisthenics … or else.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 12, 2014 at 12:57 PM

I’m pretty sure I’m already booked on one of the first trains to the Reeducation Camp.

Er, um…comrade.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:01 PM

And Belgium wants to start euthanizing children.

That’s healthy. /

22044 on February 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM

All their euthanasia meds are certified organic.

Bishop on February 12, 2014 at 1:01 PM

How does it “work”? Give some examples of how it would “work”. How will Doctors be paid? How will services be rendered at what availability?

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 12:15 PM

it works fine in most European states and guess what?

They are more healthier, fitter and live longer than your average American.

Surely it can’t be that bad?

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Of course, each and every one of those European states has a population of 313.9 million people, just like the US does!

F-

Del Dolemonte on February 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM

It sounds like liberalnorules’ “sources” make the case for personal responsibility being the best health care.

22044 on February 12, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Yep but libdrools think that people in places like Okinawa live longer cause of a forced state diet of fish and roots.

BeachBum on February 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM

From your linked article:

What’s killing Americans earlier than their foreign counterparts? The JAMA study found the greatest risk factor, as measured by the number of related deaths, was diet, followed by tobacco, high blood pressure and obesity.

This has nothing to do with single payer. Unless “single payer” in your mind is some totalitarian regime that ensures citizens strictly adhere to a “healthy state approved lifestyle”.

gwelf on February 12, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Thank you – I was just about to post that as well, and that also explains why our august representative of the national socialist left refused to do as I asked.

DinaRehn on February 12, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Single payer throughout the world.

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Well, I’ve always thought Kirsten is one of the more thoughtful and less shrill of the liberal spouty-mouths. Plus, for a liberal woman, at least her looks don’t inspire the nightmares that most of theirs do!

Faint praise, I know. But before you can cure an addiction (liberal stupidity) you have to admit you suffer from it. I always hope Ms. Powers is on the road to recovery, but I’m probably the one being delusional.

I’d still rather watch and listen to her than Jehmu “Shamu” Greene or Tamara “Tampon” Holder.

ZeusGoose on February 12, 2014 at 1:03 PM

CyberCipher on February 12, 2014 at 1:01 PM

I have always admired your collie for his/her intelligence. Very smart dog.

msupertas on February 12, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Cuba

Cuba

Cuba

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM

“Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a well-heeled Western liberal to explain that the face does, after all, enjoy free health care and 100 percent literacy.”
John Derbyshire

DinaRehn on February 12, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Of course, each and every one of those European states has a population of 313.9 million people, just like the US does!

F-

Del Dolemonte on February 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Bigot. Everyone knows that a company of 300 people can be run identically to a company of 30 people using a simple generic template.

Nations are the same way, plug something in and presto bango, success.

Bishop on February 12, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Single payer is the only answer to the healthcare issues in this country.

Every other “fix” is just a bandage denying the inevitable.

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 12:10 PM

The inevitable…what? When you have 85% of the people happy with their insurance and health care (as was the case prior to ACA), it definitely is not “the only answer” to whatever issues you care to name or imagine. If anything, you tailor a targeted program to those in the remaining 15% who need assistance obtaining basic health care.

Ricard on February 12, 2014 at 1:06 PM

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Dina asked for a credible source – LA Times fails that measure, but I’ll go with it.
Did you even read the articles you referenced?
Here’s what they’re about:

What’s killing Americans earlier than their foreign counterparts? The JAMA study found the greatest risk factor, as measured by the number of related deaths, was diet, followed by tobacco, high blood pressure and obesity.

NONE of those factors are caused by the “healthcare system”.
In fact quality of and access to the healthcare system is not even mentioned in the study.
Life expectancy is also affected by teenaged gang-bangers killing each other in the streets of the Dem controlled cities – and the healthcare system is not to blame for that either.
Like a typical libtard you have no understanding of cause and effect and you compare apples and spatulas to try to make your ridiculous point.

Are you really this stupid?

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 1:06 PM

My collie says:

What a coincidence! There are many of us that long ago grew tired of defending the sincerity of Kirsten Powers’ foolishness. We should no longer make allowances for her or her ilk. Like all Democrats, she should be held accountable for the damage that her stupidity does to our families.

CyberCipher on February 12, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Collies must be smarter than Labs.

My dog would’ve just said something about humping her leg.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:07 PM

I’m tired of you defending Obama too.

307wolverine on February 12, 2014 at 1:07 PM

If only this was about healthcare. Never was. Oh you’ve been eating what?….Sorry, we’re gonna have to deny that procedure. Next.

msupertas on February 12, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Are you really this stupid?

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Ummmm….

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Are you really this stupid?

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Ummmm….

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Rhetorical.

msupertas on February 12, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Rhetorical.

msupertas on February 12, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Don’t you mean “more rhetorically?”

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM

From the LA times

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Tell Robert Scheer I said hi! Or should that be “high”?

By the way, your 7 year old study doesn’t mention that Europeans are also healthier than Canadians-despite the fact that Canada has had a national health insurance plan since 1984.

Del Dolemonte on February 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 12:10 PM

The inevitable…what? When you have 85% of the people happy with their insurance and health care (as was the case prior to ACA), it definitely is not “the only answer” to whatever issues you care to name or imagine. If anything, you tailor a targeted program to those in the remaining 15% who need assistance obtaining basic health care.

Ricard on February 12, 2014 at 1:06 PM

5 Devastating Obamacare Facts From CBO’s Latest Economic Report
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) just released its latest analysis of the country’s economic and budget outlook, and it’s a doozy.
Yes, it’s that bad.
Here are 5 facts from CBO’s report that illustrate how the law’s effects bear no resemblance whatsoever to its namesake’s promises.
2) In 2024, There Will Still Be 31 Million People In The U.S. Without Health Insurance
Before the Affordable Care Act was passed, its top proponents – including the president himself — made a big deal about how the law would solve the problem of the uninsured. And during a September 2009 speech on the topic before a joint session of Congress, President Obama lamented that “there are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage.”

Surely that number will be lower more than a decade after the law’s passage right?
Still, according to estimates by CBO and JCT, about 31 million nonelderly residents of the United States are likely to be without health insurance in 2024, roughly one out of every nine such residents.
But other than that (and the doc shock, and the premium shock, and the broken website), the law is doing totally awesome, you guys.
hefederalist.com/2014/02/04/5-devastating-obamacare-facts-from-cbos-latest-economic-report/

The number of uninsured actually goes up, so a good question to ask of those on the national socialist left is why we did do this anyway?

DinaRehn on February 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Librules also has a problem with the stats, such as what happens when you remove accidents such as vehicle-crash fatalities from the mix.

The U.S. then jumps to….boy howdy…#1 for life expectancy.

But rest easy, Citizen, BarkyCare will keep you from crashing your car. Don’t ask how, just go with it.

Bishop on February 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM

More healthier, shut up!

NotCoach on February 12, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Ummmm….

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM
Rhetorical.

msupertas on February 12, 2014 at 1:09 PM
Rhetorical.

msupertas on February 12, 2014 at 1:09 PM
Don’t you mean “more rhetorically?”

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Yes.
But I believe it should be “more rhetoricaler”….

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Lib drools, you do know that Ocare, or single payer doesn’t cure stupidity, right. Just want you to have all the facts.

msupertas on February 12, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Hillary 2016 – “Single Payer can’t be all that bad. Europeans are more healthier.”

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 1:14 PM

My dog would’ve just said something about humping her leg.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:07 PM

anybody know whatever happened to Lorien? he’d hit it before telling her what a dumbazz she is.

DanMan on February 12, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Lib drools, you do know that Ocare, or single payer doesn’t cure stupidity, right. Just want you to have all the facts.

msupertas on February 12, 2014 at 1:13 PM

hah! nice

DanMan on February 12, 2014 at 1:15 PM

But rest easy, Citizen, BarkyCare will keep you from crashing your car. Don’t ask how, just go with it.

Bishop on February 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM

That’s easy – cars will be deemed too hazardous for us simpletons to operate on our own, and taken away from us – mass transit for all!!!

Odd how all those train tracks lead to re-education camps with big group showers….

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 1:15 PM

It should be evident that the people who knew what they were talking about in the case of Obamacare were those who protested its passage. You know, the “extremists” and “racists”.

oldennis on February 12, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Liberalrools? So will the Government set rates? Will they clamp down on the evil Doctors and Hospitals?

Details. We need details.

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM

David Cutler, one of the leading ‘architects’ for Obamacare, took fire in 2008-9 for advocating the proper ‘model’ being Britain’s NHS system…

…yet, Britain’s NHS, created in 1948, is far from a major success these days. Today, it’s peppered by numerous scandals related to substandard treatment, active rationing of critical care / medicines, inefficiency, and growing fiscal challenges.

One study found that 13,000 died needlessly in just 14 hospitals between 2005 and 2013. The worst of the studied hospitals, had 1,600 more deaths than would have been expected via statistics during that 8 year period.

Single payer is not a viable sustainable solution. It is, however, quite effective at being a massive expansion of government power and control.

So what’s the goal, liberalrules, effective healthcare or a progressive government centric agenda?

Athos on February 12, 2014 at 1:18 PM

Where did it go?

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM

And the new prime contractor, Accenture, is trying to recruit and hire CGI employees to work under its supervision.

As predicted. It always happens in contracting… new management but the same workerbees because only they know what’s under the hood, anyone else would have a steep learning curve to get up to speed on custom software. Also predicted was that the originsl 90 days would be extended. My bet, not before 2015 even if they stop playing poliyics with the business logic and code everthing that remains to be fixed/finished according to the law as interpreted today.

AH_C on February 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Del Dolemonte on February 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Michael Hiltzig, the official Obamacare shill at the LASlimes says ‘Hi’ back…

Athos on February 12, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Who knew that your wish is not enough to make something happen? Actual policy matters? Get out.

besser tot als rot on February 12, 2014 at 1:21 PM

It slunk away.

Having your carefully crafted argument dashed to pieces before your eyes as you realize lifestyle doesn’t equate to healthcare access is hard on the psyche.

Bishop on February 12, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Collies must be smarter than Labs.

My dog would’ve just said something about humping her leg.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:07 PM

My collie says:

Labs are smarter than sled dogs. That’s why the liberal progressives in Seattle enthusiastically chose the husky breed to represent the University of Washington. Think about it. Huskies and Malamutes aren’t truly domesticated animals, are they? Likewise, liberal progressive aren’t truly civilized human beings. They are savages at best.

CyberCipher on February 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM

It slunk away.

Having your carefully crafted argument dashed to pieces before your eyes as you realize lifestyle doesn’t equate to healthcare access is hard on the psyche.

Bishop on February 12, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Dagnabbit! That varmint was a-gonna be my dinner.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:23 PM

My collie says:

What a coincidence! There are many of us that long ago grew tired of defending the sincerity of Kirsten Powers’ foolishness. We should no longer make allowances for her or her ilk. Like all Democrats, she should be held accountable for the damage that her stupidity does to our families.

CyberCipher on February 12, 2014 at 1:01 PM

My Bloodhound says:

I smell trouble for Ms. Powers. Obooby will not let her get away with this.

/apologies to CyberCipher’s Collie

NOMOBO on February 12, 2014 at 1:23 PM

I really want to like Powers,…..but OMG, she is such a tool of the left. Ron Fournier, well…..he’s just ….dumb.

Offhanded on February 12, 2014 at 1:24 PM

I’m tired of you defending Obama too.

307wolverine on February 12, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Heh. I’m tired of ALL of them defending Obama.

But Kirsten Powers has probably ruined herself with her leftist friends, for several reasons:

1. She recently outed herself as a converted Christian.
2. She (gasp) appears on Fox News.
3. She’s had the audacity to defend Sarah Palin (as a fellow Alaskan).
4. She’s expressed honest negative feelings about Obama and Obamacare.

TarheelBen on February 12, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Another hotair hit and run?

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Another hotair hit and run?

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Must have gone to try to find a doctor who will accept medicaid to tend his wounds….

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Another hotair hit and run bloody-beatdown?

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Fixed, for accuracy.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Last night, Megyn Kelly said there had been 28 revisions, extensions, delays, etc to the ACA. Does anyone have the complete list in chronological order?

BacaDog on February 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Last night, Megyn Kelly said there had been 28 revisions, extensions, delays, etc to the ACA. Does anyone have the complete list in chronological order?

BacaDog on February 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I’d like to see that timeline interwoven with Republican calls to repeal, statements that it’s a mess, won’t work, etc….

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Last night, Megyn Kelly said there had been 28 revisions, extensions, delays, etc to the ACA. Does anyone have the complete list in chronological order?

BacaDog on February 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Try this.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Last night, Megyn Kelly said there had been 28 revisions, extensions, delays, etc to the ACA. Does anyone have the complete list in chronological order?

BacaDog on February 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM

My collie says:

To quote an Obama administration official, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

Maybe we can’t fix the ACA, but it is important to chronicle and record the failures of liberalism, collie. How else we will ever understand and find a cure for the collective insanity exhibited by the progressives?

CyberCipher on February 12, 2014 at 1:37 PM

The screenshots this site chooses are hilarious.

bluegill on February 12, 2014 at 1:45 PM

David Cutler, one of the leading ‘architects’ for Obamacare, took fire in 2008-9 for advocating the proper ‘model’ being Britain’s NHS system…

…yet, Britain’s NHS, created in 1948, is far from a major success these days. Today, it’s peppered by numerous scandals related to substandard treatment, active rationing of critical care / medicines, inefficiency, and growing fiscal challenges.

One study found that 13,000 died needlessly in just 14 hospitals between 2005 and 2013. The worst of the studied hospitals, had 1,600 more deaths than would have been expected via statistics during that 8 year period.

Single payer is not a viable sustainable solution. It is, however, quite effective at being a massive expansion of government power and control.

So what’s the goal, liberalrules, effective healthcare or a progressive government centric agenda?

Athos on February 12, 2014 at 1:18 PM

One word: Control

They don’t care that national socialist healthcare doesn’t work.

They don’t care that people die under it.

They don’t care that its a big drag on the economy.

They only care about control over everyone’s life.

DinaRehn on February 12, 2014 at 1:49 PM

The screenshots this site chooses are hilarious.

bluegill on February 12, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Never let it be said that Ed (or Allah) is devoid of any endearing qualities.

CyberCipher on February 12, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Was her attack on Rand an attempt to stay in the left’s good graces after this apostacy?

besser tot als rot on February 12, 2014 at 1:57 PM

OT

Schoolbus Ray Nagin was just convicted on 20 counts in New Orleans.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/02/ray_nagin_trial_live_coverage_10.html

Del Dolemonte on February 12, 2014 at 1:59 PM

David Cutler, one of the leading ‘architects’ for Obamacare, took fire in 2008-9 for advocating the proper ‘model’ being Britain’s NHS system…

…yet, Britain’s NHS, created in 1948, is far from a major success these days. Today, it’s peppered by numerous scandals related to substandard treatment, active rationing of critical care / medicines, inefficiency, and growing fiscal challenges.

One study found that 13,000 died needlessly in just 14 hospitals between 2005 and 2013. The worst of the studied hospitals, had 1,600 more deaths than would have been expected via statistics during that 8 year period.

Single payer is not a viable sustainable solution. It is, however, quite effective at being a massive expansion of government power and control.

So what’s the goal, liberalrules, effective healthcare or a progressive government centric agenda?

Athos on February 12, 2014 at 1:18 PM

The British will never trade their system for ours.

That I can guarantee you.

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 1:59 PM

OT: Ray “Schoolbus” Nagin very very very very guilty of many counts of corruption.

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 2:00 PM

The British will never trade their system for ours.

That I can guarantee you.

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 1:59 PM

So is “The British” system single payer?

oldroy on February 12, 2014 at 2:02 PM

liberalrules

If you’re going to write farce, at least try to be good at it.

22044 on February 12, 2014 at 2:07 PM

The British will never trade their system for ours.
That I can guarantee you.

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Because they’re so much more healthier than us?
Or because it’s dam near impossible to remove an entrenched government bureaucracy, no matter how bad they are?

Have you tried to read the health / life expectancy articles you referenced yet?
Can you identify yet which of the factors they mention are caused by the healthcare system?

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 2:11 PM

The British will never trade their system for ours.

That I can guarantee you.

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 1:59 PM

They’ll stay with it to the death, eh?

That wasn’t the question asked. It was…

So what’s the goal, liberalrules, effective healthcare or a progressive government centric agenda?

Athos on February 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Lib drools, you do know that Ocare, or single payer doesn’t cure stupidity

msupertas on February 12, 2014 at 1:13 PM

In fact, it seems to spread it even more.

Shy Guy on February 12, 2014 at 2:14 PM

If we went back to a system in which you paid for what you think you need, many things will be less expensive.

Two primary examples of where government freebies have driven costs through the roof are health care and education.

ha_tspc on February 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

The British will never trade their system for ours.

That I can guarantee you.

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 1:59 PM

You guys are so cute when you stomp your feet like that.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Heh. I’m tired of ALL of them defending Obama.

But Kirsten Powers has probably ruined herself with her leftist friends, for several reasons:

1. She recently outed herself as a converted Christian.
2. She (gasp) appears on Fox News.
3. She’s had the audacity to defend Sarah Palin (as a fellow Alaskan).
4. She’s expressed honest negative feelings about Obama and Obamacare.

TarheelBen on February 12, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Powers first crossed the threshold on Egypt; she called out the REB’s pro-Mo-Bro diplomacy very early on, likely because she has relatives in Egypt. Second, she herself got the shaft on Obamacare premiums.

She’s a liberal that’s been mugged twice, yet she’s learned very little because on most other issues she’s still hardcore prog.

I wonder how many muggings it will take.

slickwillie2001 on February 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Try this.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Thanks BMC. That’s a good list. I need it for a dinner I’m going to this coming weekend. I think i’ll be the only non-lib attending and I may need to pi$$ a few folks off.

BacaDog on February 12, 2014 at 2:30 PM

You guys are so cute when you stomp your feet like that.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

I like your style, BMcD.

22044 on February 12, 2014 at 2:36 PM

I wonder how many muggings it will take.

slickwillie2001 on February 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

I think she enjoys it….

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 2:36 PM

I like your style, BMcD.

22044 on February 12, 2014 at 2:36 PM

What can I say? We 22*** gotta stick together.

bigmacdaddy on February 12, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Powers: I’m getting tired of defending ObamaCare, too

Stop it.

rukiddingme on February 12, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Useful idiot may be seeing the light.

JR on February 12, 2014 at 2:47 PM

slickwillie2001 on February 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Slick, I hear what you are saying but in my opinion it really doesn’t matter how many muggings. She would probably tell herself to not carry too many valuables with her. Instead of just changing her routes or carry some self defense weapon with her. Liberals always see themselves as victims and that is the mentality she has, ‘woe is me’. Until she can stop thinking of herself as the victim, she will never change. Remember 2 things about all liberals, they think with their emotions and not logic, and to solve all their problems, they just have to spend more money on the problem. Like I have stated in another post: How do you go about fixing thinking or stupidty like that?

One_If_By_Land on February 12, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Fournier’s argument on that question rests on a supposed lack of alternatives:

I want the ACA to work because the GOP has not offered a serious alternative that can pass Congress.

Do you remember when Democrats literally locked the Republicans out of the committee conference rooms so they wouldn’t have to deal with “serious alternatives”?

Real mature.

Herald of Woe on February 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Useful idiot may be seeing the light.

JR on February 12, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Nuthin’ a good round of re-education can’t cure….

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Great comments and a stellar beat-down.

Kirsten, you can stop defending the ACA any time you know. Just thought I’d mention that.

ClownsToTheLeftOfMe on February 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Useful idiot may be seeing the light.

JR on February 12, 2014 at 2:47 PM
Nuthin’ a good round of re-education can’t cure….

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM

I’m sure the White House is already scheduling a “reporter” visit.

JR on February 12, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Liberalrules only economic illiterates believe single payer will work or feel good humanists who happen to be anti human.

sorrowen on February 12, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Instead of a ‘replacement’ just ask: how is this any better than the way things were before?

More people don’t have health insurance than before Obamacare.

The cost curve has gone more sharply upward under Obamacare.

And the number of companies offering health insurance has not increased but decreased due to the sickest signing on and the young who can be under their parent’s plan until 26 not signing on at all. And once the parents lose their health insurance the poor 26 year old will figure that its not worth paying for his or her own.

The three major reasons it was passed have all gone in the opposite direction of what was said to be the result.

It is a failure in its own terms and WORSE than not having it enacted.

ajacksonian on February 12, 2014 at 2:58 PM

That is true it has failed under its own ideals.

sorrowen on February 12, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Sorry Kristen but you are just plain BS. You never took the time to read the 2200+ pages of the Bill before it was voted on with backroom bulling. Your a talking head that had no time to really drill in on what was a glaring train wreck right in front of your face. And now your getting tired of kissing the royal a** of King Obama with celebration of ObamaCare. It is journalist such as you who do a disservice to all Americans!

karlinsync on February 12, 2014 at 3:04 PM

The three major reasons it was passed have all gone in the opposite direction of what was said to be the result.

It is a failure in its own terms and WORSE than not having it enacted.

ajacksonian on February 12, 2014 at 2:58 PM

But since the goal and intent was to massively expand the power and control of the federal government, seize 1/6th of the national economy, and expand wealth redistribution, it’s working as intended.

The rest? Intended consequences to expand the dependency trap to cover more and more of the population.

Fundamental change is when Alinsky meets Cloward / Piven…

Athos on February 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM

The British will never trade their system for ours.

That I can guarantee you.

liberalrules on February 12, 2014 at 1:59 PM

The UK has experienced something called “population churn” since the ’60s. It’s a polite term for white flight. The welfare state attracts immigrents who segregate themselves into areas of the country which become “no go zones” for everyone else. So yes, about half a million people a year trade their NHS for something else.

I have seen the UK in yearly snap shots, I am amazed at how much freedom they have lost, how much their culture has suffered and how irrelevant they have made themselves as a nation. Unfree, politically correct and any national pride has been effectively outlawed as racism. They are a cautionary tale.

V7_Sport on February 12, 2014 at 3:15 PM

But since the goal and intent was to massively expand the power and control of the federal government, seize 1/6th of the national economy, and expand wealth redistribution, it’s working as intended.

The rest? Intended consequences to expand the dependency trap to cover more and more of the population.

Fundamental change is when Alinsky meets Cloward / Piven…

Athos on February 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM

JR on February 12, 2014 at 3:17 PM

But since the goal and intent was to massively expand the power and control of the federal government, seize 1/6th of the national economy, and expand wealth redistribution, it’s working as intended.

The rest? Intended consequences to expand the dependency trap to cover more and more of the population.

Fundamental change is when Alinsky meets Cloward / Piven…

Athos on February 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM

JR on February 12, 2014 at 3:17 PM

and useful idiots like Powers makes it happen.

JR on February 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Useful idiot may be seeing the light.

JR on February 12, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Now now, someone that pretty can’t be all bad, or wrong… That’s the way it works, right?
(Just ask my first wife)

V7_Sport on February 12, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Useful idiot may be seeing the light.

JR on February 12, 2014 at 2:47 PM
Now now, someone that pretty can’t be all bad, or wrong… That’s the way it works, right?
(Just ask my first wife)

V7_Sport on February 12, 2014 at 3:20 PM

useful idiots come in all sorts, comrade.

JR on February 12, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Dear Kirstin: We tried to tell you.

Love: Tea Party, Conservatives, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Mark Levin, etc., etc.

P.S. (You might start looking into other things we’ve been trying to tell you about. You might just realize we’ve been right all along about those, too. Of course, now that it’s almost too late to do anything about it. Thanks, awfully. We’ll be glad to tell you “I told you so” when we see you in the prison camps, along with the other lefty useless idiots.)

theotherone on February 12, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Well if they made stupidity a crime, it would sure make for a smaller government.

savage24 on February 12, 2014 at 3:34 PM

“Tired, tired of being admired Tired of love uninspired Let’s face it, I’m tired. I’ve been vith thousands of men Again and again They pwomise the moon They’re alvays coming and going and going and coming And alvays too soon.”

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 3:56 PM

When will somebody denounce Comrade Powers?

JR on February 12, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Kirsten Powers and Kirsten Stewart have the same irritating mannerisms: that affected stuttering is is is is re-re-really off putting.

Sherman1864 on February 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Kristen Kirsten Powers-Stewart acting lessons:

http://youtu.be/zKKAVYI7vdU

Sherman1864 on February 12, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Ed –
You mean the websites aren’t working perfectly on day one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty twenty-one twenty-two twenty-three twenty-four twenty-five twenty-six twenty-seven twenty-eight twenty-nine thirty thirty-one thirty-two thirty-three thirty-four thirty-five thirty-six thirty-seven thirty-eight thirty-nine forty forty-one forty-two forty-three forty-four forty-five forty-six forty-seven forty-eight forty-nine fifty fifty-one fifty-two fifty-three fifty-four fifty-five fifty-six fifty-seven fifty-eight fifty-nine sixty sixty-one sixty-two sixty-three sixty-four sixty-five sixty-six sixty-seven sixty-eight sixty-nine seventy seventy-one seventy-two seventy-three seventy-four seventy-five seventy-six seventy-seven seventy-eight seventy-nine eighty eighty-one eighty-two eighty-three eighty-four eighty-five eighty-six eighty-seven eighty-eight eighty-nine ninety ninety-one ninety-two ninety-three ninety-four ninety-five ninety-six ninety-seven ninety-eight ninety-nine one hundred one hundred one one hundred two one hundred three one hundred four one hundred five one hundred six one hundred seven one hundred eight one hundred nine one hundred ten one hundred eleven one hundred twelve one hundred thirteen one hundred fourteen one hundred fifteen one hundred sixteen one hundred seventeen one hundred eighteen one hundred nineteen one hundred twenty one hundred twenty-one one hundred twenty-two one hundred twenty-three one hundred twenty-four one hundred twenty-five one hundred twenty-six one hundred twenty-seven one hundred twenty-eight one hundred twenty-nine one hundred thirty one hundred thirty-one one hundred thirty-two one hundred thirty-three one hundred thirty-four one hundred thirty-five
verbaluce on October 1, 2013 at 10:18 AM

(H/T NotCoach)

Can’t wait for those websites to get fixed, Kirsten?

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 12, 2014 at 6:12 PM

From the Headlines.. (very slightly modified)

They told me if I voted for Romney I’d have leftist reporters complaining about an incompetent fascist in the White House.

And they were right.

njrob on February 12, 2014 at 11:20 AM

ITguy on February 12, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Assuming Kirsten Powers does see the light and becomes a moderate/libertarian/conservative.

Query: What does Fox do with her?

BigAlSouth on February 12, 2014 at 6:44 PM

She criticized the rollout, not so much the aims of the law itself. This will continue to percolate, right now, some lefties can just claim it’s an implementation problem.

cimbri on February 12, 2014 at 6:46 PM

http://youtu.be/zKKAVYI7vdU

Sherman1864 on February 12, 2014 at 5:07 PM

That was like, priceless, like, uh I think?

(had to get home to see it)

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 7:53 PM

BigAlSouth on February 12, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Most of the shows on Fox are fixed. Same old boring stuff. What we need is a truly conservative network to emerge. It would put the screws to Fox.

Sherman1864 on February 12, 2014 at 8:06 PM

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Glad you enjoyed.

Have you noticed this stuttering effect is employed by a lot of news “personalities” these days?

It drives me nuts!

Sherman1864 on February 12, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Most of the shows on Fox are fixed. Same old boring stuff. What we need is a truly conservative network to emerge. It would put the screws to Fox.

Sherman1864 on February 12, 2014 at 8:06 PM

I like Fox News, and it’s the only place I go for tv news, but they desperately need competition from the right. Without it they have no reason to be anywhere but one inch to the right of CNN and NBC. Credible competition will keep them honest.

slickwillie2001 on February 12, 2014 at 8:14 PM

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