Poll of 62,000 tea partiers: Ted Cruz is the most popular Republican 2016 candidate, Chris Christie rock bottom

posted at 2:01 pm on February 12, 2014 by Allahpundit

It was an online poll, alas, not a scientific one. But that’s close enough to blogworthy for a slow news day.

Quick: Assuming these numbers kinda sorta reflect tea-party opinion accurately, who’s the big winner?

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Ted Cruz is a winner, as is Paul. But the winner is Scott Walker, no? If you’re a Republican billionaire eager to sponsor a center-right candidate who’ll be “reasonable” on immigration, say, and whose nomination wouldn’t badly fracture the party, Walker’s your boy. While Cruz and Paul are busy killing each other to become the tea-party champion, Walker can spend his time consolidating support from the rest of the party. As long as no one else wins Iowa and New Hampshire, he’ll be well positioned by the time South Carolina rolls around to become a consensus choice among centrists, righties who admire him for his indefatigability in fighting the unions, and Republicans of all stripes who worry about that Paul and Cruz aren’t electable enough to beat Hillary. He’s got some of the same landmines in front of him as Christie did — he needs to win reelection and he can’t have any ethics slip-ups — but if he makes it past that, he’s probably the frontrunner.

Speaking of which, this poll’s the best evidence yet that I was right in thinking that Christie, even more so than fellow RINOs like Jeb Bush and Jon Huntsman(!), is disliked by the base to an extent that might actually convince some conservatives to stay home if he’s the nominee. At 15 percent, he’s half as popular as the next most unpopular Republicans in the field. Even if Bridgegate evaporates overnight, what can this guy possibly do at this point to rehabilitate himself with the GOP base to make him at least as acceptable to conservatives as, say, Mike Huckabee is?

This is a start, I guess:

Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey delivered an unexpectedly blistering broadside on Tuesday against the Democratic Party’s growing emphasis on income inequality, warning that the movement would “drive America toward mediocrity” and portraying its leaders, like Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York, as local liberals unlikely to ignite a national cause…

Mr. Christie pooh-poohed the issue and its champions, Mr. de Blasio and Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, predicting that they would never achieve the level of influence that the Tea Party had exerted in the Republican Party. “I don’t think they are affecting the rest of the country all that much,” he said.

The problem, he said, is that Americans do not want income equality, suggesting that it is antithetical to the country’s abiding belief in “income opportunity” that rewards hard work and merit. “You want income equality? That is mediocrity,” he said. “Everybody can have an equal, mediocre salary.”

He also had kind words for George W. Bush (“grossly underappreciated by his own country”), which will help him win Bushworld’s favor if Jeb decides not to run but might evoke … more complicated reactions elsewhere. Put it all together and his tea-party standing must be — what? Maybe 16 percent now? “I know when I was mayor and manager of this city and then governor of the state,” said his old frenemy Sarah Palin of Bridgegate, “certainly you know what your top aides are up to.”

By the way, for what it’s worth, increasingly I think Cruz won’t run. He just doesn’t need to right now. Rand Paul may feel more urgency because no one knows how long the libertarian-ish moment America’s experiencing will last. Cruz, a younger man, may decide he’s got plenty of time and could use a few more years in the Senate to (re)build relationships and to keep building his brand. Even if some other Republican wins in 2016, he’ll only be in his early 50s by the time he’s free to run again in 2024, by which time his resume will be longer and more impressive. In the meantime, he could earn some grudging goodwill from libertarians who are suspicious of him by backing Paul in 2016, maybe in exchange for an appointment to AG or even the Supreme Court if Paul wins. (In which case, cancel the 2024 plans.) If Paul loses to Hillary, that’s okay too. That just means Cruz can run in 2020, when the country will be suffering from 12 years of Democratic fatigue instead of eight. And if Paul loses in the primary to a centrist Republican, that’s also okay. Cruz can then spend the rest of his Senate term attacking the next president, whether Democrat or Republican, for being too liberal. And best of all, he won’t have to compete with Rand for tea-party attention: I believe Kentucky law bars candidates from running for two federal offices simultaneously, so if Paul jumps into the 2016 field, he’s done as a senator one way or another. However you slice it, Cruz can afford to wait.


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Yep

Bmore on February 12, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Says a lot when you finish behind Jeb.

Bmore on February 12, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Top 5 are rocking!

Bmore on February 12, 2014 at 2:03 PM

He’s doing good on the anti-mediocrity speech.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:03 PM

However you slice it, Cruz can afford to wait.

Can the Country?

Bmore on February 12, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Let the

T axed
E nough
A lready

party bashing commence!!!

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Says a lot when you finish behind Jeb.

Bmore on February 12, 2014 at 2:02 PM

And Archibald Huntsman…

midgeorgian on February 12, 2014 at 2:06 PM

I can see Christie sipping tea in an ad?

If Wendy Davis can be pro guns and anti abortion anything is possible.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Ted Cruz or Rand Paul are they only two I can confidently vote for at this point.

jawkneemusic on February 12, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Even if Bridgegate evaporates overnight, what can this guy possibly do at this point to rehabilitate himself with the GOP base to make him at least as acceptable to conservatives as, say, Mike Huckabee is?

He could speak at CPAC! Oh wait, he’s already gonna do that.

TarheelBen on February 12, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Bmore, does your better half’s nom contain “mom”? No need to answer.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Leftist fascist thugs and RINOs to eat rocks and spit melted steel

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:07 PM

Lolz! No. I wish! Great skit so far. ; )

Bmore on February 12, 2014 at 2:08 PM

And to think that there are some folks who think the TP has gone nucking futs.

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Yay.

Walter L. Newton on February 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

By the way, for what it’s worth, increasingly I think Cruz won’t run. He just doesn’t need to right now. Rand Paul may feel more urgency because no one knows how long the libertarian-ish moment America’s experiencing will last. Cruz, a younger man, may decide he’s got plenty of time and could use a few more years in the Senate to (re)build relationships and to keep building his brand.

blah blah, why do you think cruz is just being political? maybe cruz will run in 2016 because he genuinely wants to help the country. cruz is one of those rare politicians who does things not out of political calculations, but because he truly wants to improve this country. i hope i’m not being overly optimistic but this is what cruz seems like to me.

Sachiko on February 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Even if Bridgegate evaporates overnight, what can this guy possibly do at this point to rehabilitate himself with the GOP base to make him at least as acceptable to conservatives as, say, Mike Huckabee is?

Hillary will have a hard time against him. He held a cool speech, Q & A in Chicago, anti-mediocrity and anti leftist egalitarian robbery. No wonder they leftists are eating his flesh, literally, to his benefit.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:10 PM

But dang our resident unemployed poltico said Huntsman and Bush were the way to go.

HumpBot Salvation on February 12, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Ted Cruz is a winner, as is Paul. But the winner is Scott Walker, no? If you’re a Republican billionaire eager to sponsor a center-right candidate who’ll be “reasonable” on immigration, say, and whose nomination wouldn’t badly fracture the party, Walker’s your boy.

-Allahpundit

I wish Allahpundit would quit referring to the issue as “immigration.” The issue is illegal alien amnesty. We need to stop helping to blur the line between legal and illegal immigration.

Establishment darling Scott Walker, who is also a Jeb Bush cheerleader, favors illegal alien amnesty.

There is nothing “reasonable” about that.

VIDEO – Scott Walker says “Sure!” to illegal alien amnesty. Skip to last seconds of video:
http://youtu.be/PJ6cXpFrk0c

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/22/gov-walker-wants-to-open-the-door-to-immigrants/

bluegill on February 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Not a Tea Party member, but would love to be able to vote for either Ted Cruz, Rand Paul or Scott Walker!

Mollymaloo on February 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM

In the meantime, he could earn some grudging goodwill from libertarians who are suspicious of him by backing Paul in 2016, maybe in exchange for an appointment to AG or even the Supreme Court if Paul wins.

Dude. That would be … awesome doesn’t even describe it. I don’t have the words…

besser tot als rot on February 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Reasonable in immigration is respecting and following the immigration laws, making new ones, legally, no amnesty for law breakers, alas.

There is NO illegal immigration, just an oxymoron.

There is ONLY legal immigration.

“Undocumented immigrants” is a Goebellian Carney-like Pelosianism.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Ted Cruz is my first choice, but it would be great to see him as Attorney General. It will take someone like him to clean up the mess Holder has made.

Rose on February 12, 2014 at 2:14 PM

I wish Allahpundit would quit referring to the issue as “immigration.” The issue is illegal alien amnesty. We need to stop helping to blur the line between legal and illegal immigration.

bluegill on February 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM

I do enjoy AP’s writings, but he definitely has a tendency to utilize the statist left’s focus-group-tested terminology – which isn’t helpful.

besser tot als rot on February 12, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Chris Christie rock bottom

Better than I thought he would do. On a positive note, he’s only two places behind Huntsman…lol

JGinGJ on February 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Whatever folks. I can vote for any of them. Any one is better than any Democrat, period. This isn’t about stroking my principles and making ME feel good about ME. It ain’t about me. Had the founders been slavish ideologues to “principles” they never would have ratified a Constitution without solving the slave problem, and we probably never would have had a country.

rhombus on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Ted Cruz or Rand Paul are they only two I can confidently vote for at this point.

jawkneemusic on February 12, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Same for me, though I’d tentatively add Walker to my list.

Also, where does Mike Huckabee’s Tea Party support come from? Is that number just a result of backlash to the media taking his comments out of context?

midgeorgian on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Not a Tea Party member,

Mollymaloo on February 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Is anyone? I mean, seriously, how does one become a TP member? Do you learn a secret handshake and get hazed?

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

First of all, any group that gives that much support to Ben Carson as a presidential candidate should be pretty much laughed at.

Second of all, I think that more and more Republicans are starting to write off 2016 as a lost cause. Better to wait for the 12-year fatigue to hit in 2020, after Hillary fails utterly to do anything constructive with a Republican House and Senate.

BTW, Chris Christie is only 51 years old now. He will not finish as Governor until January of 2018, right on time to start a 2020 campaign as a successful two-term Governor who survived a major scandal, revived his state’s economy and saved its finances, helped elect a bunch more Republican Governors, and outlasted the Tea Party. :-)

rockmom on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

If Walker manages to be elected, it’ll be fun to remind everyone that it wouldn’t have been possible without the commie vandal nutjobs who made him famous.

forest on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Mary Madelin thinks that Hillary won’t run either.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

I always thought Christie grabbed hold of the “lesser of two evils” position way to early. That’s the spot you want to be in AFTER your are nominated, not before. Why make half your party made at you when they have better alternatives begging for their support?

Fred 2 on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Mary Matalin, not Madelin.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:17 PM

I wish Allahpundit would quit referring to the issue as “immigration.” The issue is illegal alien amnesty. We need to stop helping to blur the line between legal and illegal immigration.

bluegill on February 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM

AP has always been a RINO. His main purpose is to publish click bait posts.

sentinelrules on February 12, 2014 at 2:17 PM

He could speak at CPAC! Oh wait, he’s already gonna do that.

TarheelBen on February 12, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Well if his speech is anything like at the Convention in 2012, it will all be about himself. Boring. I don’t know why he was invited.

bluefox on February 12, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Is anyone? I mean, seriously, how does one become a TP member? Do you learn a secret handshake and get hazed?

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

You go online regularly and declare your hatred for the GOP. Then say, see I toldja so when the Donks win again.

rhombus on February 12, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Seeing Cruz eviscerate Joe Biden or Cankles Clinton in a debate would be awwwwwweeeesoooommmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

They’d have to tie one hand behind his back and have Candy Crowley sit on him to give Grandpa Joe or Cankles a fighting chance.

HumpBot Salvation on February 12, 2014 at 2:19 PM

rhombus on February 12, 2014 at 2:18 PM

LOL! Sounds about right :-)

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:21 PM

TED CRUZ 2016!

Pork-Chop on February 12, 2014 at 2:22 PM

If you’re a Republican billionaire eager to sponsor a center-right candidate who’ll be “reasonable” on immigration, say, and whose nomination wouldn’t badly fracture the party, Walker’s your boy.


About your RINO “dream candidate”
… if you could take off those rose colored glasses and realize he would face the FULL FURY of the UNIONS … that would be GREAT.

Oh, the billionaires already know Walker’s a losing proposition, btw.

However you slice it, Cruz can afford to wait.

.
From Tea Party lead to “Meh, It can wait” – you’ve got yourself a serious case of Passive-Aggressive Cruz Derangement Syndrome™ there, AP. You should go see a counselor about that before it gets worse … like when he announces he is running for the Republican Presidential nomination in 2016.

PolAgnostic on February 12, 2014 at 2:22 PM

cruz is one of those rare politicians who does things not out of political calculations, but because he truly wants to improve this country. i hope i’m not being overly optimistic but this is what cruz seems like to me.

Sachiko on February 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

I agree and I base that on what his background is before he ever ran for the Senate. However, he may believe he can do more for the Country being where he is. He’s done quite a bit so far. Time will tell.

bluefox on February 12, 2014 at 2:22 PM

However you slice it, Cruz can afford to wait.

But can the country?

There’s a reason why Cruz is the top of the Tea Party list.

I’d also take Walker. I know there’s some on here who have interpreted things he’s said in the past about immigration as him being pro-amnesty. I’m as anti-amnesty as they come – I understand the irreparable damage it’ll do.

I’ve worked with someone who was brought into this country as a toddler because her mother legally married an American and raised their mixed family here. She’s still not a citizen but acts more American than Obama ever was in his dreams (of his father.)

It’s not so easy to feel hardcore about immigration when you actually meet people who have been caught up in the whole debacle. Where do we draw the compassionate line while protecting Liberty?

UnstChem on February 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM

rand paul is my prediction.

uatu1878 on February 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Mary Madelin thinks that Hillary won’t run either.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Mary Magdalene thinks that Hillary won’t be running either. Something about the devil collecting his dues.

HumpBot Salvation on February 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Paul would have to sue in order to appear on the ballot in Kentucky for two federal offices. He would likely be successful, if he argues on the basis of precedent set in U.S. Term Limits Inc. v. Thornton, which held an Arkansas law imposing term limits unconstitutional.

The majority opinion, written by Stevens, said “Such a state-imposed restriction is contrary to the ‘fundamental principle of our representative democracy,’ embodied in the Constitution, that ‘the people should choose whom they please to govern them…’”

Of course, the Kentucky legislature could amend the law that appears to prevent Paul from seeking both offices at once, but the GOP controls only one house in that state and has a Democrat Governor.

Conservative Mischief on February 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Well, we know who won’t be getting the nomination now.

Moesart on February 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Is anyone? I mean, seriously, how does one become a TP member? Do you learn a secret handshake and get hazed?

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Nah, you actually have to have convictions and put the country before party.

Something you and dumbus wouldn’t understand.

HumpBot Salvation on February 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM

If you’re at the bottom of the list you have almost zero chance of ever becoming President.

OxyCon on February 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Whatever folks. I can vote for any of them. Any one is better than any Democrat, period. This isn’t about stroking my principles and making ME feel good about ME. It ain’t about me. Had the founders been slavish ideologues to “principles” they never would have ratified a Constitution without solving the slave problem, and we probably never would have had a country.
rhombus on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Nice to see you have no standards whatsoever and will vote for anyone who calls himself a Republican.

Since you will vote for any of them, I expect you will happily support Ted Cruz should the opportunity arise.

bluegill on February 12, 2014 at 2:25 PM

In the meantime, he could earn some grudging goodwill from libertarians who are suspicious of him by backing Paul in 2016, maybe in exchange for an appointment to AG or even the Supreme Court if Paul wins.

Freakin’ A Ted Cruz on the SCOTUS. Hopefully, replacing Ginsburg.

The entirety of HotAir would be inebriated on the tears of the Left for ages to come…

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:26 PM

We can’t wait until 2020. If something isn’t done this year we’ll be in a full blown marxist dictatorship.

crankyoldlady on February 12, 2014 at 2:26 PM

blah blah, why do you think cruz is just being political? maybe cruz will run in 2016 because he genuinely wants to help the country.
Sachiko on February 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Allah likes to analyze this stuff. He goes on and on until after a few posts on the topic he turns into a pretzel wondering where he started and what he was saying.

Vince on February 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Freakin’ A Ted Cruz on the SCOTUS. Hopefully, replacing Ginsburg.

The entirety of HotAir would be inebriated on the tears of the Left for ages to come…

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:26 PM

The thought of Ted Cruz replacing Justice Kennedy or any of the 4 libtard justices makes me rub my nipples.

sentinelrules on February 12, 2014 at 2:28 PM

What I observed is the principled grandstanding of Paul (the real filibuster) worked out a lot better than the principled grandstanding of Cruz (shutting down Gov over ObamaCare). The former drew a lot of positive attention to the GOP on an issue that crosses party lines while the latter caused a lot of angst and pain over people’s paychecks (and the ObamaCare issue got lost in that). These are the trade-offs we need to consider when demanding principles.

rhombus on February 12, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Is anyone? I mean, seriously, how does one become a TP member? Do you learn a secret handshake and get hazed?

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Why don’t you come to Colorado and I’ll show you how one gets “hazed” into the Tea Party.

UnstChem on February 12, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Christie rock bottom

My collie says:

Ann Coulter hardest hit.

CyberCipher on February 12, 2014 at 2:29 PM

It’s not so easy to feel hardcore about immigration when you actually meet people who have been caught up in the whole debacle. Where do we draw the compassionate line while protecting Liberty?

- fan of pro-amnesty Scott Walker, UnstChem

Total, utter BS. Illegal aliens are not victims. Where is the compassion for American citizens who have been hurt by mass, unchecked illegal immigration? Where is the compassion for all of the LEGAL immigrants who have been waiting years for their green cards?

Quit trying to blur the line between legal and illegal immigration.

There is nothing “compassionate” about illegal alien amnesty. Unless you see “compassion” in destroying the country and ensuring that eventually we are unable to ever again elect a conservative president, all so that big business will have more cheap labor and the Democrat Party millions more voters.

bluegill on February 12, 2014 at 2:29 PM

UnstChem on February 12, 2014 at 2:28 PM

So the process involves cannabis? That explains a lot.

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:30 PM

If Walker manages to be elected, it’ll be fun to remind everyone that it wouldn’t have been possible without the commie vandal nutjobs who made him famous.

forest on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Yep, and personal thanks to that morbidly obese pig that slept on the floor of the state capitol.

slickwillie2001 on February 12, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Good to see Ben Carson in the top three.

John the Libertarian on February 12, 2014 at 2:32 PM

By the way, for what it’s worth, increasingly I think Cruz won’t run. He just doesn’t need to right now. Rand Paul may feel more urgency because no one knows how long the libertarian-ish moment America’s experiencing will last. Cruz, a younger man, may decide he’s got plenty of time and could use a few more years in the Senate to (re)build relationships and to keep building his brand.

I don’t know if he will run, but I wouldn’t be heartbroken if he didn’t. Not that I don’t like him. I’d vote for him in a heartbeat. But let’s face it. He’d be running having served not even a full term in the Senate with little or no legislative achievements(depending on what happens if/when the GOP retakes the Senate next year). Yes, his career before being elected is far more impressive than Obama’s community organizing resume, but it’s still pretty thin.

Scott Walker is probably the best choice right now if the goal is to unite as many wings of the Republican Party as possible while nominating a governor rather than a member of Congress. The fact that he’s won twice(and soon thrice) in a blue state and has an impressive, conservative record in office is the icing on the cake. Besides, Walker would always tap Cruz or Paul as his VP. Let the running mate be the attack dog.

Doughboy on February 12, 2014 at 2:32 PM

It would be nice to vote for someone and be enthusiastic about him.

22044 on February 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM

It was an online poll, alas, not a scientific one. But that’s close enough to blogworthy for a slow news day.

Translation: AP doesn’t like the results of *this* poll.

Midas on February 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM

I mean, seriously, how does one become a TP member? Do you learn a secret handshake and get hazed?

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Why yes! Yes you do! We have a meeting tonight in the clearing in the woods. Bring your torch.

Vince on February 12, 2014 at 2:34 PM

So the process involves cannabis? That explains a lot.

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Be cooler if it did…

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:35 PM

UnstChem on February 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Oranges and apples

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:35 PM

I would never, ever support pro-illegal alien amnesty Scott Walker or anyone else who supports amnesty. Absolute dealbreaker.

bluegill on February 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM

In the top five-I’d only vote for Cruz or Palin.
I’m leery of Herr Paul’s son, Walker’s an amnesty shill, and Ben Carson over to HHS.
My REAL 1st choice remains Rick Perry, followed by Mike Pence.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2014 at 2:40 PM

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM
Not supporting infanticide is always a +

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2014 at 2:41 PM

electability

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

BKennedy on February 12, 2014 at 2:41 PM

So what happens if Cruz doesn’t run? Just as importantly, what happens if Cruz runs and his nomination gets shot down?

gryphon202 on February 12, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Why wasn’t Mike Lee on the poll? He’s one of the “Big Three” of the Senate Tea Party, with Cruz and Paul.

Besides, isn’t there some sort of issue with Cruz’ citizenship? Probably not a bar, but with todays liberal courts, who knows? And Paul is all about shoving drugs into the mainstream and if he’s like his dad, gutting the military.

Lee is a traditional Republican, right? Strong on National Defense, social conservatism, and fiscal conservatism.

Why not Mike Lee? I’d be happy with walker too, btw.

Vanceone on February 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM

gryphon202 on February 12, 2014 at 2:41 PM

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that I think it would mean that he won’t be our next POTUS.

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:43 PM

gryphon202 on February 12, 2014 at 2:41 PM

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that I think it would mean that he won’t be our next POTUS.

MJBrutus on February 12, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Duh. But who would be next in line? As much as I like her as a person, I think that Palin’s failure to run in 2012 had a measurably negative effect on turnout for Romney. The exit polling certainly doesn’t contradict that, although it is much more difficult to tell why people stayed home than it is to tell why they went out and voted.

gryphon202 on February 12, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Take it to the bank. Who invited Christy to speak at the Reagan Library? What a joke.

Murphy9 on February 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

So what happens if Cruz doesn’t run? Just as importantly, what happens if Cruz runs and his nomination gets shot down?

gryphon202 on February 12, 2014 at 2:41 PM

If he doesn’t run, then he probably gets behind Rand Paul. Paul takes Iowa and NH, runs away with the nomination, then proceeds to knock Hillary’s d!ck in the dirt. Paul then proceeds to make Ted Cruz his AG, and appoints him to the SCOTUS, first chance he gets.

Simple, really.

If Ted Cruz runs and doesn’t get the nod? No big deal. He’s young, and will have another chance.

If he gets the nod and loses in the general? Canned goods and 9mm rounds in the basement…

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

If he doesn’t run, then he probably gets behind Rand Paul. Paul takes Iowa and NH, runs away with the nomination, then proceeds to knock Hillary’s d!ck in the dirt. Paul then proceeds to make Ted Cruz his AG, and appoints him to the SCOTUS, first chance he gets.

Simple, really.

If Ted Cruz runs and doesn’t get the nod? No big deal. He’s young, and will have another chance.

If he gets the nod and loses in the general? Canned goods and 9mm rounds in the basement…

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Rand Paul’s baggage just on account of being his father’s son is ginormous. Man, Republican voters are good at wishcasting.

gryphon202 on February 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Rand Paul’s been a good senator-but I don’t want him in the WH.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

I could also accept Mike Lee.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2014 at 2:49 PM

I’ve worked with someone who was brought into this country as a toddler because her mother legally married an American and raised their mixed family here. She’s still not a citizen but acts more American than Obama ever was in his dreams (of his father.)

It’s not so easy to feel hardcore about immigration when you actually meet people who have been caught up in the whole debacle. Where do we draw the compassionate line while protecting Liberty?

UnstChem on February 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM

I understand where you are coming from. Lived in Texas for many years and many illegals lived there also and I knew many. I’m not now familiar with the Legal Immigration laws in effect now, but at that time many completed required paperwork for Naturalization. Everything is a mess now, that only an Immigration Attorney would be helpful.

bluefox on February 12, 2014 at 2:49 PM

It would be nice to vote for someone and be enthusiastic about him.

22044 on February 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM

I know, my back still hurts from being pushed into the voting booth.

bluefox on February 12, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Rand Paul’s baggage just on account of being his father’s son is ginormous.

gryphon202 on February 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

You mean as opposed to being the son of notorious drunkard, Marxist and womanizing Barack Obama Sr? (I know, you thought I was going to go all “Kennedy” on you.)

I mean, I know the public holds Congress in pretty low regard, but I’m thinking a father who is a former Congressman kinda trumps that…

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Why yes! Yes you do! We have a meeting tonight in the clearing in the woods. Bring your torch.

Vince on February 12, 2014 at 2:34 PM

You have my imagination running away, LOL We have to bring our own chairs and pack a lunch too:-)

bluefox on February 12, 2014 at 2:54 PM

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Ron Paul was a evil wackadoodle on foreign policy. I’m not going to vote for his son until I’m CERTAIN that Rand doesn’t share his father views .

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Rand Paul’s been a good senator-but I don’t want him in the WH.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

No. You want Rick Perry in the WH. But, for whatever reason, you can’t see that that is not going to happen.

He had a reasonable shot last time around, and he fumbled rather badly. Bad enough that he would have to do something spectacular between now and the start of the race, just to make up the ground. But he’s an outgoing governor, without any shot of a Senate seat anytime soon. Which means his visibility is limited.

Which leaves him pretty well in the dust…

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Where do we draw the compassionate line while protecting Liberty?

UnstChem on February 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Where do we draw it in the context of other crimes, where people have clearly broken the law? Why is this different?

We must be compassionate and not break up families, just because the parent(s) broke the law? Ok, tell that to the mom or dad in jail right now for some other non-violent crime, and explain why *their* kids being separated from their parent(s) is OK, but it’s not OK to separate families because of someone’s status as an illegal alien.

Midas on February 12, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Why is azzhole obama visiting Rancho Mirage on Valentine’s day. Does he have a gay friend there?

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Thank goodness. The ONLY person on that list I know I will not vote for is Christie. Keep stabbing him with the steely knives. The beast hasn’t popped yet.

Don’t agree with putting some doctor who gives a good conservative speech that high. I see him more as a distraction as anything if he runs.

People seem to have figured out that Ryan was ALWAYS a part of the establishment leadership. And a phony.

I also would put Rice that high, even though I doubt she is very conservative. Its because she deserves respect and because I can’t recall her attacking conservatives or Tea Party people ever.

KMav on February 12, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Rand Paul’s baggage just on account of being his father’s son is ginormous.

gryphon202 on February 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

You mean as opposed to being the son of notorious drunkard, Marxist and womanizing Barack Obama Sr? (I know, you thought I was going to go all “Kennedy” on you.)

I mean, I know the public holds Congress in pretty low regard, but I’m thinking a father who is a former Congressman kinda trumps that…

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:53 PM

‘Baggage’ is only checked for Republicans.

slickwillie2001 on February 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM

I wish Allahpundit would quit referring to the issue as “immigration.” The issue is illegal alien amnesty. We need to stop helping to blur the line between legal and illegal immigration.

Establishment darling Scott Walker, who is also a Jeb Bush cheerleader, favors illegal alien amnesty.

There is nothing “reasonable” about that.

VIDEO – Scott Walker says “Sure!” to illegal alien amnesty. Skip to last seconds of video:
http://youtu.be/PJ6cXpFrk0c

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/22/gov-walker-wants-to-open-the-door-to-immigrants/

bluegill on February 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Still spreading the MSM’s twisted lies even though they’ve been pointed out to you twice?

Exclusive — Gov. Scott Walker: I Don’t Support Amnesty

Towards the end of the interview, Bannon noted that “Amnesty is about the sovereignty of the country.” But, he asked Walker, “the Washington Post said earlier that you’re pro-pathway to citizenship.”

“See now that’s where they take it out of context,” Walker said in response. “I’ve not said there should be amnesty in this country. I don’t believe that. I don’t support the legislation being kicked around. What I’ve said repeatedly is we need to fix the immigration system, but fix the legal system. So if people want to come in this country we should have a legal immigration system.”

Bannon then interjected: “And take care of the borders and everything we have to do first.”

Walker concurred, saying that any immigration reform efforts should “fix the front door.”

“If you’re somebody, whether you’re from Mexico or Germany or Ireland, and you want to come to this country legally, we should find a way to make it happen,” Walker said.

Walker’s comments come months after, in July, the Post’s Blake ran a blaring headline saying Walker “backs path to citizenship.”

Flora Duh on February 12, 2014 at 3:01 PM

KMav on February 12, 2014 at 2:59 PM

I think that she voted for Obama in ’08. She’s also a bit too sympathetic with the ‘palestinians’.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Cruz/Palin (or Palin /Cruz) scratches my itch.

SMACKRUNNER on February 12, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Ron Paul was a evil wackadoodle on foreign policy. I’m not going to vote for his son until I’m CERTAIN that Rand doesn’t share his father views .

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2014 at 2:56 PM

The GOP is racing towards Ron Paul’s foreign policy positions, and they are rallying behind Rand Paul’s foreign policy stands. Amongst which, I’ll remind you, was a very public excoriation of Frau Pantsuit over Benghazi, which I dare say few, if any, members of the GOP were able to match.

See that bright blue line at your feet, ALT? That’s history.

And you’re on the wrong side of it…

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Christie still has plenty of time to turn things around, although Scott Walker is definitely a candidate I can get behind. As for Ted Cruz, when he learns to avoid stupid, self-defeating gestures that only help Democrats, like last year’s shutdown, and gets about 10 more years in the Senate, than perhaps he might be a good candidate.

Personally I do not know why so many of the commentators here care about how the GOP nominates anyway, most of you spend far more time spewing hate towards a party filled with RINOs, traitors, and infidels than you towards Democrats

Dr.B on February 12, 2014 at 3:02 PM

OT – Why is azzhole obama visiting Rancho Mirage on Valentine’s day. Does he have a gay friend there?

How does Michelette feel about this?

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 3:03 PM

alt, my comment on what is “racist” was not directed at you last night, but was a general comment for the new commenters.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Personally I do not know why so many of the commentators here care about how the GOP nominates anyway, most of you spend far more time spewing hate towards a party filled with RINOs, traitors, and infidels than you towards Democrats

Dr.B on February 12, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Because the RINOs are not much different from the latrine rats. They are worse. Just see yesterday. They enable the Ds and are just rats-lite.

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Comrades! Jeb Bush/Chris Christie are clearly at bottom of poll, so is perfect to get Democratic voters instead of those counter revolutionary ‘Tea Partiers’ who can only think of liberty and freedom:

Poll reveals next GOP pres ticket: Jeb Bush/Chris Christie
http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/poll-reveals-next-gop-pres-ticket-jeb-bush-chris-christie-t13057.html
The recent online poll of 62,000 grassroots activists conducted by the Washington Examiner allows us to make a scientific prediction of the next Republican presidential ticket. Of course it will be Jeb Bush/Chris Christie (not necessarily in that order), ensuring the continuation of America’s unstoppable march towards the Progressive World of Next Tuesday!

Comrade Sterpin on February 12, 2014 at 3:07 PM

JohnGalt23 on February 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Hm. What if Palin runs, Cruz doesn’t, and he throws his support behind her (e.g., his CPAC appearance praising her).

(hehe)

cs89 on February 12, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Schadenfreude on February 12, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Oh, I know that.
We’re cool.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2014 at 3:10 PM

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