House GOP’s top Dem negotiating partner on immigration: Obama should expand his executive authority in stopping deportations

posted at 8:01 pm on February 12, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via CNS, am I wrong in describing him that way in the headline? More than three years ago, he told Newsweek that he has only one loyalty and that’s to the immigrant community. No problem for the GOP: Not only was Gutierrez a welcome member of the House’s bipartisan “Gang of Eight” on immigration, he’s been quietly and not so quietly collaborating with Paul Ryan on immigration reform for months. Now here he is, just days after Boehner warned that Obama’s power grabs had left the GOP unwilling to trust him to enforce new border security measures, urging O to grab more power by extending his executive amnesty for DREAMers to other illegals. What does this guy have to say or do for ostensibly pro-enforcement Republicans to conclude they can’t deal with him? It’s one thing not to challenge Obama’s executive overreach, it’s another to huddle with members of the other team who are calling for more of it. (See also Sheila Jackson-Lee.) The fact that they continue to ignore stuff like this is almost enough to make me think Boehner, Ryan, and the rest of the gang are closer to Gutierrez’s positions on this issue than they’re letting on.

But that would be silly, wouldn’t it.

He spends most of his time here unfurling the old story about jobs Americans won’t do — agricultural work is hard and dirty, most citizens consider it beneath their dignity and too low-paying to pursue, therefore we need to import a class of low-skilled labor to do it for us. Play that story out for another generation, after amnesty passes and many of those workers become citizens, and tell me how it ends. The entire point of this negotiation from the border-hawk perspective is that this must be the last amnesty. People who are already here are going to end up being legalized one way or another, but that’s a price worth paying in exchange for security measures that’ll ensure we’re not facing this problem again in 25 years. Does it sound like Gutierrez shares that vision? If he doesn’t, why do Republicans like Ryan keep talking to him?


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Same sex marriage because even though I don’t understand why a man would find another man attractive, that’s not my right to say they don’t love each other and as long as they are two consenting adults, I don’t see a problem with them enjoying the same rights as other married couples.

LeftoCenter on February 12, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Do you think businesses have the right to defer customers to another accommodating firm if they would prefer to not acknowledge that lifestyle? You know what with all the baker and photographer lawsuits being shoved down business people’s throats.

hawkdriver on February 12, 2014 at 10:48 PM

@ hawkdriver

“What about governmental aid and such”

In general, I’m supportive of government aid. Specifically, I guess we would have to go item by item but overall, I think government aid is beneficial, especially in cases like disaster relief, education (though not perfect), some aid to the poor (again, it’s not perfect) and such.

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“Do you think businesses have the right to defer customers to another accommodating firm if they would prefer to not acknowledge that lifestyle?”

No.

LeftoCenter on February 12, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Then you’re it aibertarian; you’re a bigot.

And that’s no surprise to anyone.

northdallasthirty on February 13, 2014 at 1:38 AM

When the law breaks down so does public and personal restraint. We are headed for very dangerous times.

rplat on February 13, 2014 at 7:27 AM

I totally trust these guys. Why wouldn’t I?

besser tot als rot on February 13, 2014 at 10:17 AM

I don’t see a problem with them enjoying the same rights as other married couples.

LeftoCenter on February 12, 2014 at 10:06 PM

What “rights?” Government affirmation of their lifestyle? Government goodies? Those hardly seem like “rights.” Or do you mean the right to marry? You’re in luck! They can already do that.

besser tot als rot on February 13, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Do you think businesses have the right to defer customers to another accommodating firm if they would prefer to not acknowledge that lifestyle? You know what with all the baker and photographer lawsuits being shoved down business people’s throats.

hawkdriver on February 12, 2014 at 10:48 PM

It’s not “acknowledging,” it’s “participate in the celebration of.”

besser tot als rot on February 13, 2014 at 10:23 AM

What? The president already ignores the law, this is un puquito.

jake49 on February 13, 2014 at 10:28 AM

LeftoCenter on February 12, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Confusing. Where do you not agree with the left?

hawkdriver on February 13, 2014 at 10:31 AM

the old story about jobs Americans won’t do — agricultural work is hard and dirty, most citizens consider it beneath their dignity and too low-paying to pursue, therefore we need to import a class of low-skilled labor to do it for us

Anyone has to be able to see that this premise would lead to wave after wave of amnesties and deluges of new immigrants. Of course once an illegal immigrant is granted legal residency/citizenship they’re not going to want to do those jobs that are beneath their dignity and too low-paying so we’ll be needing some replacement serfs to take advantage of. Eventually any pretense of having borders will be lost and we’ll become a third world ghetto.

katiejane on February 13, 2014 at 12:19 PM

I beg to differ, AP:

He spends most of his time here unfurling the old story about jobs Americans won’t do

Here are some of the jobs Americans won’t do. $4 to $5 an hour in cash, safety equipment removed, no toilet paper, $5 a night rent to sleep on the floor — 20 companies all in the SF Bay Area backyard of Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, and Diane Feinstein — all millionaires.

— agricultural work is hard and dirty, most citizens consider it beneath their dignity and too low-paying to pursue,

This sounds like John McCain. Supply and demand, AP; supply and demand. Wages will rise if no illegal aliens are available. The Calif. tomato industry found ways to harvest mechanically to reduce labor costs, for instance.

therefore we need to import a class of low-skilled labor to do it for us.

TEMPORARY if they are needed.

Play that story out for another generation, after amnesty passes and many of those workers become citizens, and tell me how it ends.

This sounds so defeatist. Why not encourage ENFORCING OUR LAWS and voting only for those who will?

The entire point of this negotiation from the border-hawk perspective is that this must be the last amnesty.

NO! “last amnesty” — that’s funny! This border hawk says NO MORE AMNESTIES. An amnesty is as silly and fruitless as a ship’s captain declaring the incoming seawater to be cargo to solve the problem of a leak. Duh!

People who are already here are going to end up being legalized one way or another, but that’s a price worth paying in exchange for security measures that’ll ensure we’re not facing this problem again in 25 years.

No, no, a thousand times NO! That is NOT inevitable, it is NOT a price worth paying. This sounds like you have joined McCain, Ryan, Rubio, et al.

Read the darn poll — the ONLY one to offer all three choices.

And watch how attrition works in Georgia.

fred5678 on February 13, 2014 at 12:49 PM

In a rational society, this azzhat Gutierrez would have been exiled (preferably deported for the irony factor) long ago …

ShainS on February 12, 2014 at 8:24 PM

In a rational society, saying that “I have only one loyalty, and that’s to the immigrant community” would be a disqualifier for congressional office which, I believe, should involve something like loyalty to the United States of America.

bofh on February 13, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Gutierrez the Communist should fall off the nearest cliff!

Delsa on February 13, 2014 at 4:48 PM

LeftoCenter on February 12, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Confusing. Where do you not agree with the left?

hawkdriver on February 13, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Nothing?

hawkdriver on February 13, 2014 at 10:17 PM

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