Video: The Monticello Irony

posted at 9:21 am on February 11, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

If you had to name one American President who put up the most resistance to an imperial presidency, which comes to mind first? For most, it would be Thomas Jefferson, the third American President under the Constitution that Jefferson influenced with his ideals, based ultimately on the rejection of monarchical power Jefferson co-wrote in the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson not only fiercely rejected attempts to monarchize the presidency, he made a large pretense of being an ordinary gentleman as President, sometimes answering the door personally at the White House when visitors called.

That’s what makes yesterday’s gaffe from Barack Obama so deliciously — and sadly — ironic:

At 4:45 POTUS and president Hollande walked out from a portico and strolled in Front of your pool with Leslie Bowman, president of the Monticello Foundation. Looking at a terrace she said that Jefferson loved to admire the landscape from there. POTUS said that he’d like to take a look and seemed delighted to “break the protocol”.

“That’s the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want” he quipped, walking to the terrace with his guest and Ms. Bowman. Pool now in the mansion as the leaders will come and visit Jefferson’s study.

That’s precisely the opposite of the example set by Jefferson, at least in terms of the presidency. Too bad Obama hasn’t learned that lesson yet.

His administration provided more irony along these lines yesterday by announcing that it would ignore the statutory language in ObamaCare — Obama’s own pet legislation — to avoid the political implications of its enforcement. More on that later, but here’s one last bit of irony on that effort:

HealthCare.gov will be out of service for two and a half days beginning on Feb. 15 — the last day people can sign up to obtain coverage that begins on March 1.

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The Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services announced in a blog post on Monday that the ObamaCare website would be down so the Social Security Administration can conduct its annual systems maintenance activities.

The site will be out of order from 3 p.m. on Feb. 15 until 5 a.m. on Tuesday — a period that coincides with the long holiday weekend.


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Gwelf love, here’s some key articles from HotAir no the issue of Bush engaging in executive overreach:

HotAir’s coverage of CIA whistleblowers under Bush:
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/04/24/cia-leak-a-blog-primer/
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/04/27/cia-leak-update-everything-old-is-new-again/

Here’s Bush engaging in the “I didn’t know until the news media reported it” excuse:

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/05/30/haditha-bush-didnt-know-until-time-magazine-reported-it/

That was just looking at two months of blog coverage…

libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Some liberals act as if history ended on 20 1 January 2009.

RandallinHerndon on February 11, 2014 at 11:53 AM

“That’s the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want”

PUTIN SMILES…

Marcola on February 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM

That’s his excellency, Barack the illegitimate, ruler of all in the known universe showing his ‘flexibility’.

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Oh I’m sorry. Executive overreach only violates the constitution and the rule of law if the President doesn’t promise you he won’t do that in a campaign speech. And here I thought that Bush told us he would not violate the rule of law WHEN HE TOOK THE OATH OF OFFICE. Really Del, you can do better.

F-

libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 11:47 AM

When and in what way did Bush violate the rule of law or violate the Constitution?

Be specific.

gwelf on February 11, 2014 at 11:54 AM

And that’s why libfreeordie likes a president who orders drone strikes on American citizens not given due process and could care less about drone strikes turning weddings into funerals.

gwelf on February 11, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Gitmo still open, American troops “surged” in Afghanistan, surveillance against citizens out of control, but at least federal contract workers will enjoy a higher minimum wage.

Hope and….uh…something, I forget the rest.

Bishop on February 11, 2014 at 11:54 AM

libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Short libfreeordie: “I can’t answer any of the questions honestly, so BOOOOSH!! There. That oughtta shut ‘em up.”

Back in the day, ‘way back in the day, my parents voted for and supported Richard Nixon. When the truth of what he had done in office started to come out, no one in my family wanted to believe it at first. But as more and more truth was revealed, we had to come to the sad realization that he had done wrong, and had damaged this country through his actions. It was hard to admit we were wrong to support him, but we had to do it–the truth was much stronger than the lies we were telling ourselves to try to keep from accepting the truth.

Libfreeordie, quit believing the lies you’re telling yourself to prevent from accepting the truth. It’s out there if you’re willing to accept it. But you’ve got to stop lying to yourself, first.

Barack Obama just isn’t worth it.

theotherone on February 11, 2014 at 11:56 AM

You do realize she’s First Lady right? What is she supposed to do? Move out of the white house and live on food stamps to prove something to you? You’re just mad seeing a beautiful and accomplished black woman in the White House. Deal.

libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM

HAHAHAHHHHAHA!!!

Hey, tell you what. I’ll tip my hat to the First Lady….

..Still trying to figure our why you typed the word
“Accomplished” in your post, but whatever….

So now it’s your turn.

Today is the 50th birthday for a certain Woman from our
Northern most State.

I await your Congratulatory Birthday Wish to her.

ToddPA on February 11, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Gitmo still open, American troops “surged” in Afghanistan, surveillance against citizens out of control, but at least federal contract workers will enjoy a higher minimum wage.

Hope and….uh…something, I forget the rest.

Bishop on February 11, 2014 at 11:54 AM

You make it sound like Obama ran on being the anti-Bush but ended up being the same as Bush except more incompetent.

gwelf on February 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Anybody that voted for this dolt really needs a brain enema before the next election.

rplat on February 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Libfree, I gotta say, brother, I’ve seen you dig some holes for yourself before but this one today on the question put before you probably takes the gold medal.

Bishop on February 11, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Dear Leader “campaigning” in November 2013, San Francisco:

SAN FRANCISCO – President Obama pushed back Monday against supporters who want him to sign more executive orders to overcome opposition to his policies from Republicans in Congress.

After a man repeatedly shouted “executive order” during Obama’s speech at a fundraiser here Monday afternoon, the president said there is “no short-cut to democracy” and that he could not sign executive orders to bypass Congress.

“A lot of people have been saying this lately on every problem, which is just, ‘Sign an executive order and we can pretty much do anything and basically nullify Congress,’ ” Obama said at a Democratic National Committee fundraiser at the SFJazz Center in San Francisco.

Many in the audience of more than 400 supporters began applauding. “Wait, wait, wait,” Obama said. “Before everybody starts clapping, that’s not how it works. We’ve got this Constitution, we’ve got this whole thing about separation of powers. So there is no short-cut to politics, and there’s no short-cut to democracy.”

Del Dolemonte on February 11, 2014 at 12:03 PM

You make it sound like Obama ran on being the anti-Bush but ended up being the same as Bush except more incompetent.

gwelf on February 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM

The halcyon days of yore, when a suave dude promised the moon and stars if only he got the keys to the Big House, that the excesses of his predecessor would be turned back and a new transparency installed in his place.

Now, well now all the self-described Smartest People In The Room are realizing they took it so far up the chute that it’s coming out their ears, but they can’t admit it because it would mean the rubes were right all along.

Bishop on February 11, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Del Dolemonte on February 11, 2014 at 11:51 AM

LOL OK, you got me. it wasn’t a campaign speech. My point still stands and you know it.

libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 11:53 AM

No, you got it right the first time, actually. He’s always campaigning.

Oh, and thanks for admitting that you subscribe to the Limbaugh Theorem!

A+

Del Dolemonte on February 11, 2014 at 12:05 PM

George Bush legally fired 18 US Attorneys and the left was threatening impeachment for abuse of power.

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Yep. While Barky blithely fired IGs who were getting too close to the crimes of him and his buddies (and they even made the rounds explaining how one of the IGs was insane and a lunatic) … without a peep from anyone.

Barky’s third world, anti-American lawlessness and tyranny is entirely unprecedented in American (R.I.P.) history. We could go on for days listing all of the impeachable, anti-American, criminal actions he’s taken and then we could go on for weeks detailing all of the retarded, insane, and pathetic things he’s said or done.

But, on the bright side, at least Barky had the intelligence to be able to solve the perplexing Gordian Gate puzzle.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 11, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Obama rape-raped Monticello.

Shy Guy on February 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Dear Leader “campaigning” in November 2013, San Francisco:

SAN FRANCISCO – President Obama pushed back Monday against supporters who want him to sign more executive orders to overcome opposition to his policies from Republicans in Congress.

After a man repeatedly shouted “executive order” during Obama’s speech at a fundraiser here Monday afternoon, the president said there is “no short-cut to democracy” and that he could not sign executive orders to bypass Congress.

“A lot of people have been saying this lately on every problem, which is just, ‘Sign an executive order and we can pretty much do anything and basically nullify Congress,’ ” Obama said at a Democratic National Committee fundraiser at the SFJazz Center in San Francisco.

Many in the audience of more than 400 supporters began applauding. “Wait, wait, wait,” Obama said. “Before everybody starts clapping, that’s not how it works. We’ve got this Constitution, we’ve got this whole thing about separation of powers. So there is no short-cut to politics, and there’s no short-cut to democracy.”

Del Dolemonte on February 11, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Ah but don’t you see that his eminence should not have to bow down to mere mortal limits as we of the great unwashed masses.

He knows more, he feels more, and he just trying to do what is right for the people!

[BTW, would you have a link to that would you - I'd like to have it for future use - me thinks that this issue isn't going away]

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Bishop has often been the first person to post in a thread so instead of someone posting “First!” they post “Bishop” instead.
By tradition the first post “belongs” to Bishop.

gwelf on February 11, 2014 a

Thank you

LastRonin on February 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM

libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 11:53 AM

If Obama doesn’t have to obey the law, do the rest of US?

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Just copy part of one of the quotes and search for it (between double quotes in the search). I used “We’ve got this Constitution, we’ve got this whole thing about separation of powers”. You’ll get all the articles with that line in it, such as this. You can search further to find the older articles with it.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 11, 2014 at 12:21 PM

I can’t help but think 0barky might actually be intentionally rubbing it in Jefferson’s face (so to speak) that he has annointed himself king, and “can do anything” despite all of Jefferson’s efforts to prevent our President from being able to do just that.

dentarthurdent on February 11, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Is Obama above the rule of law? (Yes/No)

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 11:50 AM

As much as the question deserves a direct answer, libfree is never going to answer you. For some odd reason she can’t wrap her head around the fact that Hussein is epitome of what she chooses to accuse Bush and others of. So I’ll answer for her, libfree absolutely believes Hussein is above the law because his agenda is just.

antipc on February 11, 2014 at 12:23 PM

dentarthurdent on February 11, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I doubt Barky knows jack about Jefferson. That said, Jefferson was a supporter of the French Revolution so this is even somewhat apt :)

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 11, 2014 at 12:24 PM

gwelf on February 11, 2014 a
Thank you

LastRonin on February 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM

And the first post to rollover the page is a “bmore”.

Of course, like the Pirate’s Code, it’s not so much a rule as just a guideline…..

dentarthurdent on February 11, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Ah but don’t you see that his eminence should not have to bow down to mere mortal limits as we of the great unwashed masses.
DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM

That’s actually kind of funny, given that he has a habit of bowing to other world leaders who should be no more than his “equal”.

dentarthurdent on February 11, 2014 at 12:26 PM

May Bush and obama go to Hades with all their executive everythings. I can’t wait (never mind, the eunuchs) until a R preezie is a thug and liblikeaslave lauds him/her.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:27 PM

I can’t help but think 0barky might actually be intentionally rubbing it in Jefferson’s face (so to speak) that he has annointed himself king, and “can do anything” despite all of Jefferson’s efforts to prevent our President from being able to do just that.

dentarthurdent on February 11, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Of course he is.

He daily wipes his backside on Jefferson’s handiwork – to envision Jefferson rolling over in his grave as Obama thumbs his nose at the heart of Jefferson’s ideals – *in Jefferson’s home* – well, that’s just icing on Obama’s cake.

Midas on February 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM

[BTW, would you have a link to that would you - I'd like to have it for future use - me thinks that this issue isn't going away]

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM

MKH thread from Hot Gas, November 25, 2013

Curiously, no sign of libfree in the comments, but wren had some fascinating info about the “heckler” who yelled out for O’bama to use EOs. Turns out he was a plant, and an illegal immigrant to boot!

Del Dolemonte on February 11, 2014 at 12:29 PM

At least 3-5 pigs in view…work harder, peeps.

King and Michelette need your funds.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Another irony – sub-intelligent liberals pointing to conservative criticisms of Bush on this topic in a feeble attempt to justify Obama doing it. They can’t agree that it’s wrong that Obama does it.

No recognition of the *fact* – as proven by libfree himself – that conservatives routinely groused about Bush actions that were problematic. The point libfree is inadvertently making is that conservatives are consistent in their concern about executive over-reach, whether Bush did it, or Obama does it.

Liberals? Wholly hypocritical – they grumbled when Bush did it, and… not at all when Obama does it.

Thanks, libfree, for again proving the point that liberals are hypocritical, irrational creatures.

Midas on February 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM

May Bush and obama go to Hades with all their executive everythings. I can’t wait (never mind, the eunuchs) until a R preezie is a thug and liblikeaslave lauds him/her.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:27 PM

That’s just it.
There are a lot of things about Bush’s presidency I don’t like. I’m not some blinkered fan boy like libfree.
It’s just fun seeing him spin attacking Boooosh while defending Dear Leader.
He has almost no self awareness.

And say what you want about Bush – he at least went to Congress for nearly everything he did and got bipartisan support.

While Obama decides what The Law is from moment to moment, which serfs have to live under it’s dictates and which don’t etc.

gwelf on February 11, 2014 at 12:35 PM

I’m one of the ‘new kids’ that have been enjoying this site for a couple of years. I read and ‘listen’. Having said that, I never really understood ‘Bishop.’ Would someone please explain? I’m hoping it’s not so simple that I look foolish!
LastRonin on February 11, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Bad news, dude. Two more rons made it in after you did. You’re going to have to change your username.

HumpBot Salvation on February 11, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Ha! That was funny the first time.
Once more for the cheap seats: A RONIN was a samurai with no lord or master. The only reason I used the name was my best friend, Ronin, died from cancer and a stroke. He was only 4 years old. The vet didn’t know if the cancer caused the stroke or not. He had no master, just a friend. Hence the name, LastRonin.

LastRonin on February 11, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Is Obama above the rule of law? (Yes/No)

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 11:50 AM

As much as the question deserves a direct answer, libfree is never going to answer you. For some odd reason she can’t wrap her head around the fact that Hussein is epitome of what she chooses to accuse Bush and others of. So I’ll answer for her, libfree absolutely believes Hussein is above the law because his agenda is just.

antipc on February 11, 2014 at 12:23 PM

I’m sure that she/he would say that – but can’t.

From my experience with those on the national socialist left their main technique is to dodge, distract and deny.

Questions like that focus the issue up close and negate the deny strategy.

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM

From my experience with those on the national socialist left their main technique is to dodge, distract and deny.

Questions like that focus the issue up close and negate the deny strategy.

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM

They are never liberal or progressive.

Call them what they are, leftist fascist thugs, always.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM

[BTW, would you have a link to that would you - I'd like to have it for future use - me thinks that this issue isn't going away]

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM

MKH thread from Hot Gas, November 25, 2013

Curiously, no sign of libfree in the comments, but wren had some fascinating info about the “heckler” who yelled out for O’bama to use EOs. Turns out he was a plant, and an illegal immigrant to boot!

Del Dolemonte on February 11, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Thanks.

On the ‘heckler’ – you know it’s so strange that they would set things up like that isn’t it?

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM

gwelf on February 11, 2014 a
Thank you

LastRonin on February 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM

And the first post to rollover the page is a “bmore”.

Of course, like the Pirate’s Code, it’s not so much a rule as just a guideline…..

dentarthurdent on February 11, 2014 at 12:24 PM

And thanks to you, too.

LastRonin on February 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Leftist, so your ‘logical’ argument is “obama is like chimpey and that’s ok now”? Wow, just wow.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Limbaugh was just talking about this incident. He then flashed us back to 1993, when the new President-elect and his idiotic VP-elect toured Monticello.

As Media Research Center later noted:

: During January 17, 1993 pre-Inaugural tour of Monticello, Thomas Jefferson’s home, shown live by C-SPAN, Al Gore asks of busts of George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and Marquis de Lafayette: “Who are these people?”

Rush actually played the tape. Hilarious stuff.

CSPAN Video

Del Dolemonte on February 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Del Dolemonte on February 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Thank you, Del…and they still hold the potato/potatoe against the poor guy…

Gore laughs his fat azz off, having snookered the fools into making him rich, based on hot air.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM

What a smug POS we have for a president. He’s just thumbing his nose at the American people right now, isn’t he?

TarheelBen on February 11, 2014 at 1:49 PM

You do realized that people have now died because they lost health insurance due to ObamaCare regulations right?

gwelf on February 11, 2014 at 10:35 AM

Lies.

libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 10:44

An interesting take on this-it was libfree’s Democrats who said that delaying O’bamacare was not an option, because “people would die” if it was delayed.

Hot Gas, November 6, 2013:

Republicans and some Democrats are calling on the Obama administration to extend the open-enrollment period or delay the individual mandate in light of the rocky rollout of the Affordable Care Act. But Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius says that’s not an option.

“People’s lives depend on this,” she told the Senate Finance Committee on Wednesday

“Delaying the Affordable Care Act wouldn’t delay people’s cancer, or diabetes or Parkinson’s…mental health services or cholesterol screenings or prenatal care. Delaying the Affordable Care Act doesn’t delay the foreclosure notices for families forced into bankruptcy by unpayable medical bills. It doesn’t delay the higher costs all of us pay when uninsured Americans are left with no choice but to rely on emergency rooms for care,” she added.

libfree “waived” commenting in that thread, too!

Del Dolemonte on February 11, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Ha! That was funny the first time.
Once more for the cheap seats: A RONIN was a samurai with no lord or master. The only reason I used the name was my best friend, Ronin, died from cancer and a stroke. He was only 4 years old. The vet didn’t know if the cancer caused the stroke or not. He had no master, just a friend. Hence the name, LastRonin.

LastRonin on February 11, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Lighten up Keanu, I was just pulling your chain. Sorry to hear about Ronin.

HumpBot Salvation on February 11, 2014 at 2:01 PM

No one tell Obama about Jefferson and the Shores of Tripoli—the first foreign war of the U.S., and it was against Muslims.

Where are the Marines amongst us?

INC on February 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM

That comment was meant to be heard and her posting pictures of the first dogs living in the lap of luxury is a slap in the face to suffering taxpayers.

ctmom on February 11, 2014 at 10:09 AM

You do realize she’s First Lady right? What is she supposed to do? Move out of the white house and live on food stamps to prove something to you? You’re just mad seeing a beautiful and accomplished black woman in the White House. Deal.

libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Would you have defended First Lady Laura Bush in a similar circumstance?

I guess we’ll never know, since we don’t have any examples of lavishness from Laura Bush. But I remember leftists pitching a fit over the amount of money Nancy Reagan spent redecorating the White House. And that was redecorating the White House, not feeding a couple of dogs.

BTW, anyone seen Godless Commie around? You and he would get along so well…..

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 11, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Once again, the racially-paranoid, race-hustling troll brings up skin color where it was not being previously discussed.

One could be forgiven for thinking that’s all she ever thinks about.

CurtZHP on February 11, 2014 at 10:41 AM

Even more impressive – a Jefferson-related thread where no-one so far has said “did you know he owned slaves” and “may have gotten all Clintonian with one of them?”

Oops.

DrDeleon on February 11, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Matching outfits.

tenore on February 11, 2014 at 8:29 PM

You do realize she’s First Lady right? What is she supposed to do? Move out of the white house and live on food stamps to prove something to you? You’re just mad seeing a beautiful and accomplished black woman in the White House. Deal.
libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Wow, Mia Love was invited?? Mooch is gonna be jealous.

AppraisHer on February 12, 2014 at 2:33 AM

I have been at the UVA hospital since Monday with my Aunt. They shut Charlottesville down for these two blooming idiots to go see one of the most interesting achievements that Jefferson left us….his home. No other way to describe it. The place is simply amazing . And they “did” Monticello in 45 minutes. I’ve been there at least 6 times and I find something new every time I go, and have never spent less than 2 hours there. Incurious at best, showing off bringing AF-1 instead of the cheaper Marine 1′ (30 mins air time), and racing through the house of our 3rd president….I’M insulted for Thomas Jefferson! Go to Mt. Vernon next time you jerk! DC traffic is already a nightmare so you won’t hurt anything!

graywaiter on February 12, 2014 at 8:50 AM

In a word, detestable.

dnonnema on February 12, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Might I respectfully suggest that there is one who rejected the Imperial Presidency even more firmly than President Jefferson?

One man was actually offered the position of King of the United States – and rejected it.

That singular Man – His Excellency, General George Washington;
first President of the US (under the current Constitution).

ReggieA on February 12, 2014 at 3:15 PM

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