Treasury: Employers must “self-attest” that ObamaCare not behind staffing decisions – under penalty of perjury

posted at 12:41 pm on February 11, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Old and busted: Businesses will love ObamaCare for its cost savings in health care! New hotness: Businesses had better not make staffing decisions based on cost savings from ObamaCare-fueled price spikes! After its latest delay in implementing the employer mandate, the Obama administration rebuffed criticisms that the law incentivizes employers to shift to part-time work by announcing the Treasury Inquisition — ahem, excuse me, the Treasury Attestation Department:

The latest announcement comes after the administration heard from businesses about their concerns with the looming ObamaCare rules. However, the change is sure to raise more questions about the health and implementation of the law. Fewer workers getting insurance through their employers could mean more individuals on the ObamaCare exchanges seeking subsidized coverage, increasing the cost to taxpayers.

Some lawmakers, though, have claimed that the mere threat of the employer mandate is causing companies to shed full-time workers in the hope of keeping their staff size below 50 and avoiding the requirement.

Administration officials dispute that this is happening on any large scale. Further, Treasury officials said Monday that businesses will be told to “certify” that they are not shedding full-time workers simply to avoid the mandate. Officials said employers will be told to sign a “self-attestation” on their tax forms affirming this, under penalty of perjury.

Officials stressed that the latest reprieve applies to a relatively small percentage of employers — albeit companies that employ millions of workers.

Er … exactly what gives Treasury the authority to demand that kind of pledge, anyway? The law only mandates that employers provide coverage for full-time employees, a status defined by working 30 or more hours a week. It doesn’t contain any authority for Treasury or anyone else to force current full-time employees to stay in that status, nor for the federal government to dictate ratios of full-time/part-time staff.

Gabriel Malor wondered the same thing:

The Obama administration is big on self-attestation, huh? Just ask the Little Sisters of the Poor. They’ve certainly gotten the “bully” part of the bully pulpit in mind these days at the White House.

This seems an opportune time to revisit F. A. Hayek and The Road to Serfdom about the nature of command economies, and the nature of governments that impose them. Hayek supported social insurance programs, but warned that crafting them or anything else in the nature of a command economy would not just guarantee economic failure, but increasing lawlessness, arbitrariness, and tyranny from the government that imposes it as it gets desperate to avoid failure. That cycle appears to be fast-tracked with ObamaCare at Treasury.

My friend Scott Johnson at Power Line recalls the argument well in a rebuttal of a recent column from E. J. Dionne:

As I say, I guess it’s too difficult to actually read Hayek’s Road to Serfdom, or his more complete Constitution of Liberty, to see what his argument actually was, so easier just to go with Judt’s comic book version instead.  In both of his great books, Hayek endorses the principle of social insurance (and even a mandate for everyone to buy health insurance—egad*), but is concerned with the tendency toward making social insurance programs into redistribution programs.  Wow—crazy stuff, I know.  But you can see that Judt’s formula that Hayek opposed “welfare policies of any sort” is flat wrong.

And is Hayek’s broader point that centralized economic planning would lead to tyrannical government really so far-fetched?  The linchpin of Hayek’s argument was that the plans and desires of the statists would require the undermining of the rule of law, because steadily increasing arbitrary power is necessary for their centralized schemes to work.  I wonder whether Dionne has checked in lately with the Little Sisters of the Poor?  Or has taken notice of the IRS harassment of groups opposed to Obama?  I wonder what he makes of Obama’s unilateral executive decisions simply to suspend parts of the health care law that are politically inconvenient?

As for me, I wonder whether Scott expected his argument to be so very well validated in such a short space of time. Of course, no one expects the Treasury Inquisition …


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The land is now fascist.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:42 PM

The left hates the individuals of the USA and favors corporations.

Hypocrites unite…1%rs, and 3%rs rule and you love it, you scum of the Earth.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Meanwhile, work harder, taxpayers.

The pigs are at the fancy trough.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:43 PM

As soon as 0bama attests that putting off another 0bamacare mandate is not about politics.

cozmo on February 11, 2014 at 12:43 PM

The Rs have fodder for 100 ads.

Bank on them blowing it, the eunuchs.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM

But what IF Obamacare IS behind staffing decisions?!

That isn’t against the law, uh, last time I checked (has Obama used his pen in the last 5 minutes?).

Obamacare is a COST just like ANY OTHER FORM OF TAXATION (and Chief “justice” Roberts called Obamacare a TAX) which is part of the cost of hiring or retaining someone. OF COURSE it’s a factor. Anyone who says it ISNT is committing purjury!

And since when did the Federal Government have the AUTHORITY to demand sworn statements regarding INTERNAL BUSINESS DECISIONS anyway?

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Just hand over the keys. They will tell us what is best for us from now on.

WW on February 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Inquisition the Musical!

libfreesMom on February 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM

The Rs have fodder for 100 ads.

Bank on them blowing it, the eunuchs.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM

And they will run NONE.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Another Edict. How Quaint.

ToddPA on February 11, 2014 at 12:45 PM

“I, at no time, fired that person because of your Great Product…..
can I get up now and kiss your ring?”

Electrongod on February 11, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Will Treasury be in charge of the tattooing process..?

d1carter on February 11, 2014 at 12:46 PM

This can’t be true.

p0s3r on February 11, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Gabriel Malor
@gabrielmalor

On what statutory authority Treasury is relying for the certification requirement?

BadgesStatutory authority? We don’t need no stinkin’ badges statutory authority!

bigmacdaddy on February 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM

The land is now fascist.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:42 PM

The American Socialist Superstate … It’s now ASScist, which is fascist with an added stink.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM

When is congress going to do something about these unconstitutional acts of our “banana republic” president?

sadatoni on February 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Hey. Thanks for ushering in the age of American authoritarian fascism, John Roberts.

besser tot als rot on February 11, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Leftist fascist thugs, always.

Call them by what they are, and drop the “liberal/progressive” memes.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Will Treasury be in charge of the tattooing process..?

d1carter on February 11, 2014 at 12:46 PM

No, but they are in charge of the IRS and that’s more devastating.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:48 PM

For some reason, this comes to mind…

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Ayn Rand

Tar Heel Sooner on February 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM

So, HHS will do the tattooing..?

d1carter on February 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Obama’s America. If you listen closely, you can hear the founders weep.

Jack_Burton on February 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Er … exactly what gives Treasury the authority to demand that kind of pledge, anyway? The law only mandates that employers provide coverage for full-time employees, a status defined by working 30 or more hours a week. It doesn’t contain any authority for Treasury or anyone else to force current full-time employees to stay in that status, nor for the federal government to dictate ratios of full-time/part-time staff.

The stupid squishy Republians

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Reminds me of when Hitler started requiring those in his government to swear an allegiance to him, not the nation of Germany.

Bitter Clinger on February 11, 2014 at 12:50 PM

The good news is if I work for a company with 100 employees I can screw off all I want. They can’t fire me for fear of the Spanish Inquisition.

bsinc1962 on February 11, 2014 at 12:50 PM

How does swine/justice Roberts feel about this?

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Only Conservatives will be required to comply..?

d1carter on February 11, 2014 at 12:50 PM

This black fat cow argued on Faux today that deBlasio is right in taking all the producers’ dough and “redistributing it in the name of justice”…because “CEOs get paid more than the workers”.

Not even Lenin/Marx/Engels promoted that.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Directive 10-289 is just around the corner.

LegendHasIt on February 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Any ERISA attorneys here? Is it a crime for an employer to cut hours to avoid providing insurance under section 510? If so, wouldn’t this attestation require self-incrimination?

blammm on February 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

This is kinda like what he is requiring of the “Little Sisters of the Poor” and the company “Hobby Lobby” when it comes to issuing free abortificients.

tehehehe on February 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Inquisition (and jihad, dhimmitude and jizya) was the first impression cast into my little brain when I read the story.
“Okay, you can lay off the workers as soon as you sign our little political waiver exempting us from the repercussions of our deeds.”

DublOh7 on February 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

The good news is if I work for a company with 100 employees I can screw off all I want. They can’t fire me for fear of the Spanish Inquisition.

bsinc1962 on February 11, 2014 at 12:50 PM

They can still go out of business because they went bankrupt due to a combination of high Obamacare tax costs AND a bunch of lazy employees!

Or has Treasury mandated that businesses can’t go out of business?

Has Obama implemented Directive 10-289?

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

…and if I don’t attest???…

PatriotRider on February 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Hopefully, employers will refuse to sign and force Treasury to cite what their authority is for such a “certification”. Employers doing this en masse will overwhelm the Administration on calling their bluff.

Alas, I fear many will sign because they think they have to. Period.

Bitter Clinger on February 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Is this a joke?

ElectricPhase on February 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM

This black fat cow argued on Faux today that deBlasio is right in taking all the producers’ dough and “redistributing it in the name of justice”…because “CEOs get paid more than the workers”.

Not even Lenin/Marx/Engels promoted that.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Obama makes a lot more than I do, between his Presidential salary and all that money he gets from his two ghostwritten autobiographies. When does he start redistributing his own money?

Oh, that’s right, Socialism IS FOR THE MASSES, NOT THE SOCIALIST!

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Welcome to FranceUSA

Sulaco on February 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Just remember people voted in 2012 for this kind of behavior to continue. A majority of Americans want this apparently.

Kataklysmic on February 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

I’m now living in hell…

PatriotRider on February 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

GOP’s fault. If they won’t do anything about it, the Regime is going to do whatever the F they want.

Left_is_Wrong on February 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

-cough cough-

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hope and Change, mothafluckas! Hope and freakin’ CHANGE!

When do we start wearing the mandatory lapel pins with Dog Eater’s face on them, and hang his portrait in a conspicuous place in our homes?

Bishop on February 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Heh, Obama’s pivotal experiment not going so well?

Buy my new book now: “How to fire people because of ObamaCare without letting on that is what you are doing.”

redguy on February 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Just remember people voted in 2012 for this kind of behavior to continue. A majority of Americans want this apparently.

Kataklysmic on February 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Reality tends to be self-correcting. We cannot sustain this level of parasites on our economy. Therefore, we won’t.

A whole bunch of freeloaders are going to have to learn to START WORKING again. Or starve. There is no third option.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Add bribery to his list of crimes.

Is this what hostage taking looks like?

antipc on February 11, 2014 at 12:55 PM

What part of

“I shall not comply”

is unclear?

LegendHasIt on February 11, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Heh, Obama’s pivotal experiment not going so well?

Buy my new book now: “How to fire people because of ObamaCare without letting on that is what you are doing.”

redguy on February 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

The first thing the NSA will do is inform Treasury of everyone who has bought your book, and it will be used as evidence of their Thought Crimes.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM

How does swine/justice Roberts feel about this?

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:50 PM

He loves it. Benedict Roberts thinks that the feral government can do anything when it comes to taxes (or just the IRS doing something, tax or not). Benedict Roberts feels like a proud father with this development.

Also, barky and his junta have been down this road before. for the 2012 election they threatened companies not to send out the required layoff possibility notices to employees who might get the axe (also because of BarkyCare). It was illegal, but we found that that word is just a collection of letters, having no more meaning than “lelliag”.

Then again, that too – the contempt for the Rule of Law – was also trumpeted loudly by Barky and his junta when they declared “empathy” to be a legitimate main criterion for a judge or judicial decision, in direct opposition to the foundation and history of over 3000 years of Western jurisprudence. The Senate GOP didn’t have any problem with that, letting the wise empathetic adjectiveless latina sail through …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Obama’s America. If you listen closely, you can hear the founders weep.

Jack_Burton on February 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM

No, it’s them coming back to life to kick Obama’s ass…..

The founders don’t seem like the kind of guys that would sit around and weep.

We have the Boner that does that.

redguy on February 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM

C’mon, trolls. Where are you to defend your Dear Leader on this?

Bitter Clinger on February 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM

All of these articles on the various websites are fine (great at generating outrage), but can we have some cogent legal analysis as to WHAT CAN BE DONE, and by whom, to stop the lawlessness?

Judge Napolitano said last night on FNC that the IRS has no statutory authority to induce a crime. OK, so what can be done about it?

matthew8787 on February 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM

This is disgusting and reprehensible. There had better be some major push back on this.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on February 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM

A whole bunch of freeloaders are going to have to learn to START WORKING again. Or starve. There is no third option.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Yep, most of them are fat asses anyway.

redguy on February 11, 2014 at 12:58 PM

That Joe Biden guy was right…this is a big f’n deal.

Kanga on February 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM

That can’t be legal. I mean even the Obama definition of “legal”

gophergirl on February 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM

CJ Roberts says this is a tax and is perfectly legal for the regime to impose this tax……..

d1carter on February 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Roberts and the left wing loons legitimized the use of the IRS as a punishment for failing to obey Obama. But I think this use of a regulation that has absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare is going a bit too far. Even liberals should be worried.

pat on February 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM

All of these articles on the various websites are fine (great at generating outrage), but can we have some cogent legal analysis as to WHAT CAN BE DONE, and by whom, to stop the lawlessness?

Judge Napolitano said last night on FNC that the IRS has no statutory authority to induce a crime. OK, so what can be done about it?

matthew8787 on February 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM

The GOP is spineless and feckless. Leave them out of this. They won’t be part of any solution, and indeed are PART OF THE PROBLEM.

There are three things we can do:

1. GENERAL STRIKE
2. MASS CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE
3. MASS PROTESTS IN DC, SURROUND THE SPITE HOUSE AND OTHER GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM

D’Souza’s 2016 is looking more and more real

ConservativePartyNow on February 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM

“Report it” or what?

Boxcars? Boxcars?

Lourdes on February 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. So when is Speaker Boehener going to do something besides “be outraged”?

Our Country is lost.

USNCVN on February 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Officials stressed that the latest reprieve applies to a relatively small percentage of employers — albeit companies that employ millions of workers.

“Don’t worry so much, Jews and gays, we’re only executing the mentally retarded, infirm, and insane, our Action T4 program will never go beyond them.”

-Nazis

Bishop on February 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM

How long will over half of America close her eyes to the tyranny that is happening right now?

TarheelBen on February 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM

The left hates the individuals of the USA and favors corporations.

Hypocrites unite…1%rs, and 3%rs rule and you love it, you scum of the Earth.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Seems both sides favour large C-Corporations; with mine binging a S-Corporation, I ain’t getting any favours from the current administation, nor would I want any.

Not disagreeing with you, just adding that the current progressives see individuals as part of a collective.

Is is wrong to be an individual/S-Corp and be part of the 1%?

HonestLib on February 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Or has Treasury mandated that businesses can’t go out of business?

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

The NLRB already started trying to tell companies when they can and can’t close manufacturing plants and where they have to manufacture things … Boeing, Cali to South Carolina …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Make sure you take your valuables when boarding the trains….

d1carter on February 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM

D’Souza’s 2016 is looking more and more real

ConservativePartyNow on February 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM

That’s why the Regime is trying to put him in prison.

Just wait, they’ll find an excuse to revoke his bond.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM

A whole bunch of freeloaders are going to have to learn to START WORKING again. Or starve. There is no third option.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Unforunately there is a 3rd option for the parasites: come into your home and take what’s yours when the government checks start bouncing. We’ll know that time is fast approaching once the forcible confiscation of firearms begins. Anyone think that’s too far fetched for this regime?

Kataklysmic on February 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM

And further must supply a shrubbery.

2Tru2Tru on February 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM

I’m starting to get the feeling that a live-fire re-enactment of Lexington & Concord is not very far off.

Bitter Clinger on February 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM

This whole “mandatory attestation” is confusing. Is there a provision on the ACA which make sit illegal to make any business decision based on the economic effects of the law?

It makes sense only in the context of coming litigation by the DOJ against companies who do make such decisions based…what? Imperial Decree?

It’s too bad that fear of the First Black President(TM) paralyzises the GOP. Another good reason to not support them, either.

Hucklebuck on February 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM

You have the right to Remain Silent…

We will soon need a Miranda Warning for filling out our Tax forms.

jaydee_007 on February 11, 2014 at 1:02 PM

….so what can be done about it?
matthew8787 on February 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Nothing, legally. We citizens ‘have no standing’ according to the Corrupt Courts, and the ones Constitutionally charged with opposing a dictatorial Executive Branch have no no desire to do so, due to a mixture of cowardice and co-conspiracy.

LegendHasIt on February 11, 2014 at 1:02 PM

This whole “mandatory attestation” is confusing. Is there a provision on the ACA which make sit illegal to make any business decision based on the economic effects of the law?

It makes sense only in the context of coming litigation by the DOJ against companies who do make such decisions based…what? Imperial Decree?

It’s too bad that fear of the First Black President(TM) paralyzises the GOP. Another good reason to not support them, either.

Hucklebuck on February 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Even if this is part of the law, it’s so laughably Unconstitutional it shouldn’t even be given any serious consideration.

The only reason to obey this command, at this point, is the FEAR that the full weight and fury of the Alphabet DC Bureaucracy will be cut loose against you, ie: DOE, EPA, IRS, DOL, etc.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Directive 10-289 is just around the corner.

LegendHasIt on February 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Has Obama implemented Directive 10-289?

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

In the name of the general welfare, to protect the people’s security, to achieve full equality and total stability, it is decreed for the duration of the national emergency that:

Point One. All workers, wage earners and employees of any kind whatsoever shall henceforth be attached to their jobs and shall not leave nor be dismissed nor change employment, under penalty of a term in jail. The penalty shall be determined by the Unification Board, such Board to be appointed by the Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources. All persons reaching the age of twenty-one shall report to the Unification Board, which shall assign them to where, in its opinion, their services will best serve the interests of the nation.

Point Two. All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor leave nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business, under penalty of the nationalization of their establishment and of any and all of their property.

Point Three. All patents and copyrights, pertaining to any devices, inventions, formulas, processes and works of any nature whatsoever, shall be turned over to the nation as a patriotic emergency gift by means of Gift Certificates to be signed voluntarily by the owners of all such patents and copyrights. The Unification Board shall then license the use of such patents and copyrights to all applicants, equally and without discrimination, for the purpose of eliminating monopolistic practices, discarding obsolete products and making the best available to the whole nation. No trademarks, brand names or copyrighted titles shall be used. Every formerly patented product shall be known by a new name and sold by all manufacturers under the same name, such name to be selected by the Unification Board. All private trademarks and brand names are hereby abolished.

Point Four. No new devices, inventions, products, or goods of any nature whatsoever, not now on the market, shall be produced, invented, manufactured or sold after the date of this directive. The Office of Patents and Copyrights is hereby suspended.

Point Five. Every establishment, concern, corporation or person engaged in production of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth produce the same amount of goods per year as it, they or he produced during the Basic Year, no more and no less. The year to be known as the Basic or Yardstick Year is to be the year ending on the date of this directive. Over or under production shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Board.

Point Six. Every person of any age, sex, class or income, shall henceforth spend the same amount of money on the purchase of goods per year as he or she spent during the Basic Year, no more and no less. Over or under purchasing shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Board.

Point Seven. All wages, prices, salaries, dividends, profits, interest rates and forms of income of any nature whatsoever, shall be frozen at their present figures, as of the date of this directive.

Point Eight. All cases arising from and rules not specifically provided for in this directive, shall be settled and determined by the Unification Board, whose decisions will be final.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

IRS: Redo those buttons! Dress that belt buckle! Straighten that cap! And godd@mn it, tuck up those pajamas! Attention! Eyes front! What’s that on your chest, mister?

US Business: It’s a pledge pin, sir.

IRS: A PLEDGE PIN?!?! On your UNIFORM?!! Just tell me, mister, what Government would pledge a company like yours?

US Business: It’s an ObamaCare pin, sir.

Electrongod on February 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Why haven’t the spineless Republicans in the House begun impeachment proceedings?

cajunpatriot on February 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Nothing, legally. We citizens ‘have no standing’ according to the Corrupt Courts, and the ones Constitutionally charged with opposing a dictatorial Executive Branch have no no desire to do so, due to a mixture of cowardice and co-conspiracy.

LegendHasIt on February 11, 2014 at 1:02 PM

That’s part of Civil Disobedience. If We, the People, have no standing in the Courts, then the Courts no longer have any standing (or authority) over the People.

We’re going to have to start doing things like that AND SOON.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Fascists.

BuckeyeSam on February 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM

So this is Pelosi meant by “we have to pass to find out what’s in it” because what’s in it changes by the minute.

Bitter Clinger on February 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM

HonestLib on February 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Eh, don’t play coy, you had 4 years to see what was happening and you voted for it a second time, this is on your shoulders.

You want to be honest, admit you pulled the lever for a thug.

Bishop on February 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Along with our Democrat partners, the Republican establishment in Washington should also be held DIRECTLY responsible for this monstrosity of a law. Since enactment, EVERYONE has had PLENTY of time to “read what’s in it”……….everyone in the government knows whats there and to continue to try to blame the democrats as the one and only responsible party is beyond stupid and irresponsible. Especially as the other side wants to use it like a hammer in the upcoming elections. The fact that the President feels he is able to “do whatever I want” should be extremely shocking and people should be yelling for their representatives to STOP it right now. He does not have the power and if you give it to him we will all rue the day……….what happens when “the other side” gets back in office……….and they will…..we are setting unlawful precidents here!!!!!…….STOP THE MADNESS. Get these jokers out of office in the fall!!!!!!!!

Pigletrios on February 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Above quote from this link.

H/t Legend and ConstantineXI

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Employers must “self-attest” that ObamaCare not behind staffing decisions liberating employees from wage slavery

FIFY

corona79 on February 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM

New hotness: Businesses had better not make staffing decisions based on cost savings from ObamaCare-fueled price spikes!

The land is now fascist.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Said it for me.

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Note to employers: lie about why you let employees go. Just follow Dear Liar’s example and flat out lie.

rbj on February 11, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Another thread about fascism that the trolls will ignore.

gwelf on February 11, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Can we call ourselves a third world banana republic now?

jukin3 on February 11, 2014 at 1:07 PM

I am having trouble believing this. Is this an Onion story? This cannot be true, can it?

dubyawon on February 11, 2014 at 1:07 PM

We will soon need a Miranda Warning for filling out our Tax forms.
jaydee_007 on February 11, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Then don’t do it.

Can Y’all imagine: if a mere 10% of the population “refused to comply” in any way: Even with their newly hired 16,000 IRS Enforcers, they would never be able to catch all and force them to comply.

LegendHasIt on February 11, 2014 at 1:07 PM

We are all Starnesville

Murphy9 on February 11, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Unforunately there is a 3rd option for the parasites: come into your home and take what’s yours when the government checks start bouncing. We’ll know that time is fast approaching once the forcible confiscation of firearms begins. Anyone think that’s too far fetched for this regime?

Kataklysmic on February 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Two solutions for that:

1. If you live in a large city GET THE HELL OUT NOW! They are soon to be death traps with millions of casualties.

2. 12 gauge shotguns, the PERFECT self defense weapon. (Joe Biden is like a stopped clock on this one).

The vast majority of the freeloader class are in the cities. They are lazy people who aren’t used to ever having to fend for themselves (evidence: Hurricane Katrina, where they could have WALKED to safety but waited to be transported out). They won’t get far from the cities.

Actually the BIGGEST worry will be government confiscating your stashes… When Sh!t hits the fan, government will be out for itself.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 1:08 PM

If Adolf Hitler had a son he might not look that much like him, but he would be like Barack Obama.

And I don’t want to hear any idiot screaming “Goodwin’s Law”.

VorDaj on February 11, 2014 at 1:08 PM

The Rs have fodder for 100 ads.

Bank on them blowing it, the eunuchs.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Eunuchs was the exact word I was thinking of – the eunuchs in the GOP won’t do squat.

Ward Cleaver on February 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

You knuckle-draggers just can’t take a joke!!!

/libtardordie

CurtZHP on February 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Nice!

libfreeordie on February 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

This is beyond disgusting. The Obungler regime forcing business to keep quiet about the fact that Obunglercare is a job killer. I feel like I just woke up in Cuba circa 1985.

Business should refuse to be intimidated and speak the truth loudly.

Whitey Ford on February 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

For some reason, this comes to mind…

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Ayn Rand

Tar Heel Sooner on February 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Thought of this quote:

Then you will see the rise of the men of the double standard–the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money–the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them.

But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law–men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims–then money becomes its creators’ avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they’ve passed a law to disarm them.

Ayn Rand

DinaRehn on February 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

C’mon, trolls. Where are you to defend your Dear Leader on this?

Bitter Clinger on February 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM

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This move was not his best and what should have happened is for HHS to have written look-back rules of two years or so and that would solved the problem.

Now, that would have included me as I dropped down to 49 a while back to be safe. Now, the 49 employees I have are covered with group insurance through BCBS as we use Insperity to keep rates somewhat reasonable.

Would a look back rule be a problem for me? Nah, been adapating to tax laws, work rules, regualtions, and so on for 30 years. Just part of doing business.

HonestLib on February 11, 2014 at 1:10 PM

say you certify that that is the reason. whats the penalty.

I mean a LEGAL penalty

gerrym51 on February 11, 2014 at 1:10 PM

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