Boehner might not have the votes for a “clean” debt-ceiling hike either

posted at 11:21 am on February 11, 2014 by Allahpundit

Yet. He might not have the votes yet. They’re not going to hit the ceiling with an election eight months away.

But the fact that the Speaker himself, who rarely votes, feels he needs to lead by example this time shows you how reluctant the rest of the caucus is.

Why didn’t Plan B, repealing the reduced COLA adjustment to military pensions enacted under Paul Ryan’s budget, unite the caucus? Everyone can get behind more money for the troops, no? Roll Call:

Republican leaders were caught between White House and Democratic demands for a clean hike and Republican conservatives who didn’t want to vote for any hike, and still others who were angry that they would have to choose whether to vote to support the troops or vote against raising the debt limit. Other Republicans complained that the plan would effectively increase spending for nine years only to cut it in the tenth year by extending part of the sequester — when many wanted more cuts sooner.

Believe it or not, according to NBC, there were no more than 40-50 Republican votes for Plan B. I think Conn Carroll’s right: Ultimately, Republicans couldn’t stomach the idea that their big debt-ceiling gambit had now produced as a core “demand” a measure that would actually increase spending. It’s not about shafting the troops; the COLA adjustment will be repealed in a separate bill before long. It was the realization that their debt-limit brinksmanship, which has grown increasingly hollow ever since the first standoff in 2011, had now reached the point of farce, with the party holding out for more money for government just so that it could claim some sort of victory if Obama and Reid caved. The GOP’s going to get what it wants eventually on military pensions and on Keystone approval irrespective of what happens with the debt ceiling, in which case, why treat them as “demands” at all? It’s a charade. If the party’s resolved not to risk a ferocious public backlash by driving a hard bargain on a meaningful proposal to cut spending and then standing firm as the debt limit is reached, why bother demanding anything? Just let Democrats and a few dozen fidgety centrist Republicans pass a clean hike and be done with it.

Candidly, though, I still don’t understand why they couldn’t get to 218 for repealing ObamaCare’s “risk corridor,” i.e. bailout, provisions. Yeah, the insurance industry was lobbying hard against it behind the scenes. So what? Democrats would have blocked it anyway. Even in the left’s worst-case scenario, where it passed both chambers of Congress, Obama would have vetoed it. Why not put him, Reid, and all those vulnerable red-state Democrats in the Senate who would have had to vote on it on the spot by passing it in the House? If you’re a Republican who’s vowed never to raise the debt ceiling under any circumstances, you could have rested assured that this bill would fail while causing some pain for your opponents. And if you’re troubled by the fact that CBO said the “risk corridor” is on track to raise revenue for Uncle Sam, not lose it, you could have tweaked the bill so that it made the “risk corridor” budget-neutral instead of repealing it wholesale. It would have been a useful bludgeon this fall, especially if CBO’s projections turned out to be wrong. Alas.

Exit question: Is this the end of Republican debt-ceiling brinksmanship, once and for all? In theory, the leadership might feel bolder next year after the midterms have passed; in practice, there’s simply no reason to believe that Boehner or McConnell will ever allow Treasury to hit the ceiling. They’ll always swallow hard and let Democrats pass a clean debt-limit hike instead. Better to abandon this method of negotiation than keep farking that chicken with phony standoffs whose outcome is a fait accompli.


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Swine from both sides!!!

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Both sides hate the military, obama does too, and their words mean ZERO.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:22 AM

obama, Reid and Boehner hate the Military.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:22 AM

Paul Ryan and Cow Murray hate the Military.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:23 AM

I read the Conservatives in the House want to tie a balanced budget amendment to the “clean” debt ceiling hike.

That would be wonderful, but the progs will just build in a loophole for themselves to abuse, or the Preezy will veto it if it does ever get to him.

Left_is_Wrong on February 11, 2014 at 11:24 AM

They’ll always swallow hard and let Democrats pass a clean debt-limit hike instead.

The GOP lifers seem to be doing a lot of swallowing lately when they deal with the demorats.

Bishop on February 11, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Thugs on the Left: obama, Reid, Pelosi, Schumer and etc.

Thugs on the Right: Ryan, Boehner, McCarthy, Cantor, and etc.

Gonads nowhere!

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:26 AM

McConnell, McCain, Ms. Lindsey, go to Hell, soon.

Take Boehner and Ryan with you.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Don’t sacrifice your children and relatives for any of them.

They, and the land full of sheeple are NO longer worth it.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Hugh Hewitt’s going to blow a gasket about the military COLA. Restoring that has been an obsession of his – and rightfully so, IMHO.

aquaviva on February 11, 2014 at 11:28 AM

But the fact that the Speaker himself, who rarely votes, feels he needs to lead by example this time shows you how reluctant the rest of the caucus is.

Boehner’s authority is collapsing. No wonder they’ve been lashing out at the Tea Party recently.

Exit question: Is this the end of Republican debt-ceiling brinksmanship, once and for all?

It’s the end of the Boehner/McConnell “brinksmanship” anyway. Both men have completely destroyed their own credibility as leaders and done serious long term damage to the credibility of the party establishment. I usually say this in regards to international politics, but I’ll say it in regards to domestic politics too: Weakness is provocative.

Doomberg on February 11, 2014 at 11:28 AM

I yearn for the day when my elected representatives actually represent me. But I’ll not hold my breath. I’ll just keep stocking up on supplies and ammo for the ultimate collapse.

bimmcorp on February 11, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Is it time yet for the HA surrender update? The bit about living to fight another day when the GOP has some leverage?

Personally, I’d like to treat Boehner like a surplus giraffe in a Danish zoo.

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Better to abandon this method of negotiation than keep farking that chicken with phony standoffs whose outcome is a fait accompli.

They recently farked that chicken to death in Australia. Why not in the USSA?

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Hugh Hewitt’s going to blow a gasket about the military COLA. Restoring that has been an obsession of his – and rightfully so, IMHO.

aquaviva on February 11, 2014 at 11:28 AM

With the mid-terms coming up, I suspect that the VFW, American Legion, MOAA, and all the rest of the veterans’ advocacy groups are going to make it difficult for Congressional looting of military pensions to stand.

Paul Ryan’s defense that the vets didn’t deserve or need those pensions is enough for me to think he’ll never be on a national ticket again.

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM

It’s the end of the Boehner/McConnell “brinksmanship” anyway. Both men have completely destroyed their own credibility as leaders and done serious long term damage to the credibility of the party establishment.

May both go to Hades, and soon. Good people of KY, throw the frog out, for good. Too long was reached years ago.

I usually say this in regards to international politics, but I’ll say it in regards to domestic politics too: Weakness is provocative.

Doomberg on February 11, 2014 at 11:28 AM

obama owns this one and it’s a 100% disaster. Name one success, a country, in which the obama/Hillary foreign policy has succeeded, I triple dare any of you.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Conservatives should pause and think a bit more about Russia.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/russias-right-turn/

After the Bush-neocon years of fighting wars for ‘Democracy,’ maybe it’s time to rethink?

flawedskull on February 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

I love the fact that Obama essentially removed the GOP’s golden issue to run on this year with his illegal delay yesterday.

The GOP’s going to have run on their remarkable record of caving on everything Obama and the Dims wanted. Good luck with that.

Left_is_Wrong on February 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

If you look at historical facts and events, the stats don’t look good for hostage takers.

liberalrules on February 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

The GOP/anarchist/nihilists should demand a 3 year delay in the small employer mandate. Go big this time!

forest on February 11, 2014 at 11:42 AM

If there’s never, ever, ever, never, ever, never, ever a reason to NOT raise the debt ceiling, what the hell purpose does it serve? Just pass a bill to eliminate its very existence.

Bitter Clinger on February 11, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Exit question: Is this the end of Republican debt-ceiling brinksmanship, party once and for all?

FIFY…we can only hope. Dems and Pubs are two side to same coin. Time for destruction of Pub party and build new one to actually oppose demcRATS.

Doomsday on February 11, 2014 at 11:47 AM

If you look at historical facts and events, the stats don’t look good for hostage takers.

liberalrules on February 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

What’s with all the violent rhetoric, we’ve moved on to a New Tone, you should too.

Bishop on February 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Why do we insist on calling it a “debt ceiling” when it is an ever-increasing “DEBT FLOOR”?

ShainS on February 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM

These guys shouldn’t have D’s or R’s behind their names. They should all have U’s. For useless.

Let them earn another letter. If they can.

trigon on February 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Awaiting the RINOs and non conservatives to come in and say “We have to cave here and just raise the debt ceiling, we can’t do anything to anger the media and ruin the chances of taking the senate. This is not the hill to die on, we have to live to fight another day and we can do that after winning the senate”

tcufrog on February 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Awaiting the RINOs and non conservatives to come in and say “We have to cave here and just raise the debt ceiling, we can’t do anything to anger the media and ruin the chances of taking the senate. This is not the hill to die on, we have to live to fight another day and we can do that after winning the senate”

tcufrog on February 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM

That will be the HA Update to this thread.

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2014 at 11:55 AM

“In theory, the leadership might feel bolder next year after the midterms have passed;”

No, because when the debt limit comes back around next march the 16 presidential nominees will begin emerging. There’s always an excuse.

sleroi on February 11, 2014 at 11:56 AM

March 2011: “We have to pass this CR that cuts no spending, can’t die on this hill, just wait for the debt ceiling fight, that is when we will have the leverage”

July 2011: “We have to raise the debt ceiling, can’t die on this hill. Wait until the 2012 elections, we will win then fight for conservative principles”

December 2012: “We have to pass these tax increases. We can’t die on this hill, we need to pick our battles. Don’t worry, we will fight down the line on the next debt ceiling”

October 2013: “We have to pass this crap budget and not fight to defund Obamacare. This isn’t the hill to die on. We will get them, don’t worry”

Decmeber 2013: “We need to go ahead and pass this Paul Ryan budget. Don’t fight it, just accept it. We can’t die on this hill. We can’t ruin the chances of taking the senate.”

tcufrog on February 11, 2014 at 11:58 AM

If you look at historical facts and events, the stats don’t look good for hostage takers.

liberalrules on February 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

They look pretty good for Iran, but your gnatbrain won’t get it.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:00 PM

there’s simply no reason to believe that Boehner or McConnell will ever allow Treasury to hit the ceiling.

One can hope neither will be in a leadership position for much longer.

Ukiah on February 11, 2014 at 12:01 PM

obama owns this one and it’s a 100% disaster. Name one success, a country, in which the obama/Hillary foreign policy has succeeded, I triple dare any of you.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM

He’s healed the planet and stopped the oceans from rising.

307wolverine on February 11, 2014 at 12:04 PM

obama owns this one and it’s a 100% disaster. Name one success, a country, in which the obama/Hillary foreign policy has succeeded, I triple dare any of you.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Oh, no question. Obama has utterly wrecked our foreign policy and I wasn’t trying to imply Republicans had anything to do with it.

I consider it a truism that we are struggling on the world stage because Obama is an obvious weakling that is easily rolled. I also am trying to offer the observation that Boehner is struggling because he is also obviously a weakling.

If you look at historical facts and events, the stats don’t look good for hostage takers.

liberalrules on February 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Agreed, Obama should dismiss Congress, throw his enemies in jail, cancel elections, and assume sweeping dictatorial powers. Who knows what will happen if those crazy Republican extremists stop rubber stamping Obama’s agenda! Everyone knows Congress is a ceremonial body meant to approve what the king president tells them to do! /

Doomberg on February 11, 2014 at 12:05 PM

McConnell may not even be a senator next year, much less the Majority or Minority Leader.

Viator on February 11, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Boehner the Incapable could FUBAR a one car funeral.

Get out of the tanning booth, man, and start calling out the preznitial abuses. If you’re talking to Nanzi Pelosi about getting needed votes it’s time to step down and let an adult take charge.

viking01 on February 11, 2014 at 12:07 PM

This is the new GOP. Go full Marxist because President Palpatine is so scary

Brock Robamney on February 11, 2014 at 12:08 PM

whatever happened to PAYGO????

oh i forgot, that will rear its head when the next gop president takes office…

cmsinaz on February 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Boehner: Profile in courage cowardice.

BuckeyeSam on February 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

If all else fails, Boehner could always stand up in front of the American people and start crying and telling us he needs to get this done so he can get back to the tanning salon. I always wondered if Obummer and the D’rats put that tanning tax in just to P.O. Boehner. This man is useless and should change his “R” to “Dem-lite”. The only industry Captain Clink has ever helped is the alcohol industry.

One_If_By_Land on February 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Remember when a cave was a hole in the side of a mountain?

TerryW on February 11, 2014 at 12:11 PM

FIFY…we can only hope. Dems and Pubs are two side to same coin. Time for destruction of Pub party and build new one to actually oppose demcRATS.
Doomsday on February 11, 2014 at 11:47 AM

They are ok with that. They actually had a corporate merger on Jan 20, 2013

Brock Robamney on February 11, 2014 at 12:12 PM

If all else fails, Boehner could always stand up in front of the American people and start crying and telling us he needs to get this done so he can get back to the tanning salon. I always wondered if Obummer and the D’rats put that tanning tax in just to P.O. Boehner. This man is useless and should change his “R” to “Dem-lite”. The only industry Captain Clink has ever helped is the alcohol industry.
One_If_By_Land on February 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Never trust the Orange man. You would think people would catch on after Charlie Crist

Brock Robamney on February 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM

helpful hint: It ain’t a ceiling if the thing under it can keep growing without ever hitting it.

corona79 on February 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM

No wonder the US is the Shame of the World.

They love what obama has made of the land.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 12:14 PM

March 2011: “We have to pass this CR that cuts no spending, can’t die on this hill, just wait for the debt ceiling fight, that is when we will have the leverage”

July 2011: “We have to raise the debt ceiling, can’t die on this hill. Wait until the 2012 elections, we will win then fight for conservative principles”

December 2012: “We have to pass these tax increases. We can’t die on this hill, we need to pick our battles. Don’t worry, we will fight down the line on the next debt ceiling”

October 2013: “We have to pass this crap budget and not fight to defund Obamacare. This isn’t the hill to die on. We will get them, don’t worry”

Decmeber 2013: “We need to go ahead and pass this Paul Ryan budget. Don’t fight it, just accept it. We can’t die on this hill. We can’t ruin the chances of taking the senate.”

tcufrog on February 11, 2014 at 11:58 AM

I’m sensing a pattern here.

Bitter Clinger on February 11, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Boehner’s problem is that he and the GOP leadership have about as much trust from conservatives as Obama does. He’s worked hard to destroy the confidence that conservatives have in the GOP, and he is now reaping the rewards of that hard work.

besser tot als rot on February 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM

In theory, the leadership might feel bolder next year after the midterms have passed;

After the mid-terms comes the big push for amnesty. Got to get those illegal aliens able to vote by 2016.

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Boehner’s problem is that he and the GOP leadership have about as much trust from conservatives as Obama does. He’s worked hard to destroy the confidence that conservatives have in the GOP, and he is now reaping the rewards of that hard work.

besser tot als rot on February 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM

And for much the same reasons. Boehner has worked hard to alienate and isolate the Tea Party members. He has punished them for not being a surrender weasel.

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Support Dave Brat against Cantor! This guy is a smart, incorruptible, small-government dream candidate. Beating Cantor sounds like a tall order, but I’m telling you, if Brat has the funds he is going to give Cantor a run for his money. NRO had a nice write up on him the other day.

AmeriCuda on February 11, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Not exactly shocking this is typical Washington but this will end the ongoing Obamacare train wreck will not.

sorrowen on February 11, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Dear Leader: There will be no debt ceiling as long as I am King! I can do what I want….

d1carter on February 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM

This slow-motion, ongoing car crash, in which Boehner has to thread the needle to get 218 votes for anything, is the effect of Cruz, et al., demanding brinkmaship on the CR and not the debt ceiling.

The public is with the Dems on funding the government, they are with the GOP on debt reduction.

Forced by Cruz and others — however correct and well-intentioned — the GOP shot their wad prematurely, and now the leadership is stuck with the consequences. Too many GOP members are more worried about primary challenges than the general election; and Pelosi is all too content to let the GOP leadership swing in the wind.

I do agree that it’s insane for the House GOP caucus to not attach the risk corridor provision and send it to the Senate. This one is beyond my comprehension.

matthew8787 on February 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Candidly, though, I still don’t understand why they couldn’t get to 218 for repealing ObamaCare’s “risk corridor,” i.e. bailout, provisions.


Here’s the first step – Reading Is Fundamental

The answer is the GOPe Donor Class LOVES crony capitalism and is going to make LOTS of money with guaranteed bailouts cooked into the pie from Day One.

I’ve been saying this since October, AP – but since I’m only a commenter – and other TV Talking Heads have been saying it for the last 6 weeks:

The GOPe Leadership is under the total control of the GOPe Donor Class.

Pretending YOU don’t understand that just makes YOU look clueless … or culpable.

Exit Answer: Your clueless question has a direct answer. The current House GOPe Leadership is going to lose their positions long before the next election. Even the other GOPe puppets are going to gett tired of being embarrassed DAILY by these clowns.

PolAgnostic on February 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM

If all else fails, Boehner could always stand up in front of the American people and start crying and telling us he needs to get this done so he can get back to the tanning salon. I always wondered if Obummer and the D’rats put that tanning tax in just to P.O. Boehner. This man is useless and should change his “R” to “Dem-lite”. The only industry Captain Clink has ever helped is the alcohol industry.

One_If_By_Land on February 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Never trust the Orange man. You would think people would catch on after Charlie Crist

Brock Robamney on February 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM

You are so right about the orange man. But I think there are people who are looking and hoping for someone to come along that has a spine and fight for American ideals and the people and are very easily fooled. Just take a look at Paul Ryan, I believe he could have been that someone and look what he turned out to be. I pray for our country.

One_If_By_Land on February 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM

AS far as I am concerned, LET IT BURN!

We’re going to collapse and suffer revolution soon anyway, might as well GET IT OVER WITH!

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM

All actions since the bailouts establish that the GOP has no interest in securing the financial well being of the country. I mean, what fun is it to win control if the result is that you preside over the reduction of your own power?

Dec_of_Ind on February 11, 2014 at 12:39 PM

John Boehner may be the worst Speaker of the House ever. He can blame the Senate, he can blame Obama, but the only one he can really blame is himself. First of all, the Speaker of the House is right behind the Vice-President in succession to the Presidency it’s not some flunky position to be made fun of or for people like Reid and Obama to overlook. It’s about time we had a Speaker willing to fight for his turf and demand respect. Of course, respect has to be earned, but if he proved he had a clue, that would come.

bflat879 on February 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM

obama owns this one and it’s a 100% disaster. Name one success, a country, in which the obama/Hillary foreign policy has succeeded, I triple dare any of you.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM

How about Iran – just look at it as a success from the Iranian perspective ;)

LarryinLA on February 11, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Why pay the military at all? After all they volunteered right? Everybody knows you don’t have to pay volunteers! /s

NiteOwl on February 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Elect a new leader already!
This one is broken and weak.

Lonetown on February 11, 2014 at 12:51 PM

bflat879 on February 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM

I agree with what you are saying but Boehner will never get a clue. He is part of the problem because he is entrenched in the Washington establishment. He has been in there so long he cannot see what is really going on anymore (At least when he is sober), he has lost touch with how the people feel and what it was like to be part of the masses. There lies the real problem, some of our rulers have been in Washington so long, they have become what they use to fight against. We need term limits for all branches of our government. I know this will not solve all our problems but it would be a good start, something to build on towards a more representative government for the people.

One_If_By_Land on February 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Wow! Whatever is in that NSA File that the Obama Administration is using as leverage against Boehner and McConnell must be something that these two guys REALLY don’t want released!

Mahdi on February 11, 2014 at 12:58 PM

John Boehner may be the worst Speaker of the House ever. He can blame the Senate, he can blame Obama, but the only one he can really blame is himself.

bflat879 on February 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Nope, the vast majority of Republicans who let him keep the speaker’s chair back in January of 2013 are to blame. It’s not like Boneless started being pathetic just a year ago.

TMOverbeck on February 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM

You guys realize that the national Debt isn’t actually a big deal for any reason, don’t you?

you know that this mantra you guys have been forcefed into believing isn’t actually true, right?

that any politician screaming about the debt was just misleading you and trying to justify re-routing money from one segment of the population to another, right?

everdiso on February 11, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Once again, Mitt Romney was right. Reelect Obama and we will have 20 trillion in national debt.

monalisa on February 11, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Candidly, though, I still don’t understand why they couldn’t get to 218 for repealing ObamaCare’s “risk corridor,” i.e. bailout, provisions. Yeah, the insurance industry was lobbying hard against it behind the scenes. So what? Democrats would have blocked it anyway. Even in the left’s worst-case scenario, where it passed both chambers of Congress, Obama would have vetoed it. Why not put him, Reid, and all those vulnerable red-state Democrats in the Senate who would have had to vote on it on the spot by passing it in the House?

If you keep looking for reasons why Republican leadership doesn’t follow obvious strategy to put Democrats on the defensive you’re just going to get a headache. The evidence is that they’re just not that bright.

novaculus on February 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

What would all the Boehner/Cantor critics have him do?

He doesn’t have a working majority, period. The GOP caucus is fractured — too many hard-right members wanting constant confrontation with the Administration, and too many moderates not willing to stand firm from swing districts.

Lest it be overlooked, as it routinely is, there would be NO GOP majority without both factions. Boehner is about 12-15 votes short of a governing conservative consensus.

Boehner did EVERYTHING that his far right members wanted in October, following the ill-advised lead of Cruz, Lee, Heritage, SCF. It led to disaster.

So now he has to go to Pelosi to get votes for the debt ceiling. If the GOP caucus is too fractured to agree to ANY riders, what else is he supposed to do?

matthew8787 on February 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Conservatives should pause and think a bit more about Russia.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/russias-right-turn/

After the Bush-neocon years of fighting wars for ‘Democracy,’ maybe it’s time to rethink?

flawedskull on February 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Get off Russia. The enemy is within.

crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 1:13 PM

If you keep looking for reasons why Republican leadership doesn’t follow obvious strategy to put Democrats on the defensive you’re just going to get a headache. The evidence is that they’re just not that bright.

novaculus on February 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

No, the evidence is they just don’t want to.

crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Flush this turd.

nobama1267 on February 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Two words that aptly display the hypocrisy; Farm Bill.

How many Republicans voted against the bloated spending, welfare and the food stamps hi-jinx in that bill?

Marcus Traianus on February 11, 2014 at 2:01 PM

I just hope they can get the needed votes to oust Johnny b.He is absolutely killing us.

libertygal on February 11, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Is it time yet for the HA surrender update? The bit about living to fight another day when the GOP has some leverage?
Personally, I’d like to treat Boehner like a surplus giraffe in a Danish zoo.
Happy Nomad on February 11, 2014 at 11:30 AM

No, no pending CR fights. But the Couch Potato Caucus will no longer have to worry about being job locked

Brock Robamney on February 11, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Just win the Senate in November and the Presidency in ’16 based on a balanced budget platform.

Tater Salad on February 11, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Get off Russia. The enemy is within.

crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Precisely why they want to be on ANY other subject.

fresh air on February 11, 2014 at 3:12 PM

If you look at historical facts and events, the stats don’t look good for hostage takers.

liberalrules on February 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

As long as the hostage takers give their low info voter base free Obamaphones, food stamps, housing subsidies and Obamacare, the hostage takers have nothing to fear. The only thing Republicans have to fear is having Boehner break down in sissy fit tears if the Democrats say “Boo” to him.

timberline on February 11, 2014 at 5:04 PM

So in other words, Boehner will test the unconventional debt limit strategy of not being a dick.

Constantine on February 11, 2014 at 5:04 PM

One_If_By_Land on February 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Paul Ryan also has a tint of orange too, doesn’t he?

Brock Robamney on February 11, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Why not attach language codifying some of the changes Obama has made unilaterally to ObamaCare.

While that may seem counter-intuitive, it could be used to keep the focus on the failure of that program and put the Democrats on defense.

The talking points would be:

1. We are for the delay, repeal, and replacement of ObamaCare, we will accept changes which move us in that direction.

2. The President is not above the law. To make these changes in the way he has, sets up a dangerous precedent for him to rule by executive fiat in other areas.

3. Rather than a prolonged legal challenge, we choose to bring the President back into the proscribed Constitutional boundaries.

4. We urge Harry Reid and his minions to stop obstructing any and all changes to ObamaCare and join us in passing these measures.

Such a move would highlight the Constitutional Crisis Obama is instigating, set the table for further changes to ObamaCare and be awfully hard for the Democrats to argue against.

contemplativesage on February 11, 2014 at 5:15 PM

What would all the Boehner/Cantor critics have him do?
matthew8787 on February 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Oh, I don’t know. Perhaps using the power granted to him as defined in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. How’s that for starters? How about actually keeping campaign promises? How about not stabbing fellow republicans in the back?

Brock Robamney on February 11, 2014 at 5:18 PM