Amnesty advocates: It’s time for us to start shaming and punishing these Republicans for holding out

posted at 8:01 pm on February 11, 2014 by Allahpundit

If this sounds familiar, it’s because variations of this story pop up every three months or so. Here’s one from October about amnesty shills turning to more “aggressive” pressure tactics in their despair at GOP recalcitrance. Here’s another from December quoting Kevin McCarthy, currently number three in the House GOP leadership, warning immigration reform fans that showing up outside his district office and screaming makes him less likely to listen to them, not more. You make the call (no peeking): Is this passage from today’s Politico story about reform advocates getting tough or from Politico’s story on December 9th about reform advocates getting tough?

They stormed House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s (R-Va.) condo in Arlington, Va. They delivered reams of letters to House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and dozens of other House Republicans from children of immigrant families. They’ve confronted Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) during breakfast at his favorite Capitol Hill diner and prayed on the doorsteps of his suburban Cincinnati home.

But, so far, the in-your-face strategy isn’t working. After the Senate passed the most comprehensive immigration overhaul in a generation in June, the effort has stalled. And the tough tactics are turning off key House GOP lawmakers whose support will be vital if legislation is to clear Congress…

“They are refusing to move on reform; thousands of families every week are broken apart because of the failure to move,” said Kica Matos, a spokeswoman for the Fair Immigration Reform Movement, a coalition behind much of the strategy. “We are determined to see reform passed. So give us reform and we’ll go away.”

That’s from December 9th. Fast forward two months, almost to the day, and here’s Politico again quoting the same spokeswoman in an article co-authored by the same writer who wrote the earlier story. Amnesty activists are mad, and this time they really, really mean it. No fooling, you guys. Super cereal:

A new, more aggressive campaign kicks off Tuesday, when these groups say they will begin confronting Republican lawmakers at public appearances, congressional hearings and events back in home districts. The goal: Shame Republicans in swing districts into taking up the issue — or make them pay at the ballot box in November…

“Obviously, persuasion only got us so far,” Kica Matos, a spokeswoman for the Fair Immigration Reform Movement, said Monday. “What we are now doing is to switch tactics from persuasion to punishment.”

“We will be a thorn in your side, every single day. We will be in your face. Get used to seeing us,” warned Matos for the 18,000th time. It won’t work, especially now that O’s answered Republican criticism about his trustworthiness on enforcement with yet another middle finger from ObamaCare. But these stories are useful, I guess, as pro forma expressions of exasperation from the left to remind the public that they urgently want amnesty. The whiff of violence from the rhetoric — “punishment,” “in your face,” aggressiveness, confrontation — is useful too. Coming from a bunch of conservative groups, that would be cause for a week-long media panic. Coming from a protected group like amnesty shills, it’s just another pressure point. I.e. see how desperate these guys are? Better give them what they want before they really get desperate.

Amnesty super-shill Luis Gutierrez, who once famously said that his only loyalty is to the “immigrant community,” told reporters on a conference call, “You thought the Super Bowl was a blow out? Wait until November 2016 if immigration reform is still hanging out there.” Is that right? Sean Trende, RCP’s ace elections analyst, doesn’t buy it:

Let’s steadily increase the Democrats’ share of the Hispanic vote across the board from 2012, leaving everything else untouched. At 78 percent nationally, North Carolina flips. It isn’t until 86 percent that Arizona flips. At 98 percent nationally, Texas finally flips.

But what about the upside for the GOP? If the GOP reduces the Democrats’ share of the Hispanic vote to 67 percent, Florida goes Republican. At 56 percent, New Mexico flips. Nevada and Colorado flip at 51 percent and 50 percent, respectively. Incidentally, Mitt Romney is still losing the Electoral College, 283 to 255. It isn’t until the Republicans win 63 percent of the Hispanic vote that Pennsylvania finally flips, handing Romney the presidency.

There are very good reasons to pursue the Hispanic vote from both moral and policy perspectives, and of course every vote does help. But from a cold electoral calculus, the Democrats’ gains among Hispanics at this point yield very little fruit. In fact, if the Democrats were to increase their vote share among Hispanics somehow by another 10 percent, Republicans could nevertheless win the presidency by increasing their share among whites by just four points.

What everyone misses in the great demographics debate, says Trende, is that while Democrats are benefiting from an electorate with more minority voters, Republicans have been trending towards winning greater and greater shares of the white vote. And since there are still many more white voters than Latino ones, it’s not true that the GOP’s best move is to pursue Latinos with targeted policies if those same policies cost them votes among whites. The party ideally would run on a platform that appeals to both; amnesty is … probably not part of such a platform. But either way, Gutierrez is kidding himself if he thinks stalling on immigration reform is going to produce some sort of landslide defeat for Republicans in 2016. On the contrary, if the “Obama coalition” doesn’t hold for the next Democratic nominee, the left is in trouble.


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It’s about time to start rounding up and deporting ILLEGALS too.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 8:03 PM

It’s about time to start rounding up and deporting ILLEGALS too.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 8:03 PM

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RACIST ! . . . . . (if it makes you feel any better, … me too )

listens2glenn on February 11, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Punch back twice as hard.

rbj on February 11, 2014 at 8:08 PM

On immigration Republicans can talk squishy as long as they make it clear to the base that they are not in favor of amnesty and will uphold the law. You don’t even have to use the word deportation. Does Obama or any Democrat in a position of power even use the word abortion? I haven’t heard Obama say it. Why? Well because it is an unpleasant act like a deportation is an unpleasant act although not on the same level. Obama uses flowery language like ‘reproductive rights’ and ‘women’s healthcare’. Republicans can talk about protecting immigrant communities by upholding the law.

Wigglesworth on February 11, 2014 at 8:10 PM

It may be time to start utilizing some walls.

Murphy9 on February 11, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Thousands of those that have crossed the border, obviously illegally, and bred or brought their families also, are “torn apart.” But what about the millions of mainstream Americans that are “torn apart,” that are losing their jobs, neighborhoods, and possibly country to the fertile illegal invaders? Is this a country that will now or ever have any border integrity? Or will our country in effect merge with countries to the south? What about that? What about those that are not illegal, the vast majority of Americans, do they count?

anotherJoe on February 11, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Every single candidate for office at the Federal, State, and Local level needs to be asked about their SPECIFIC positions on ILLEGAL immigration at every single campaign stop in 2014.

Only candidates who support ENFORCING CURRENT LAWS AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and SECURING OUR BORDERS should be elected to office.

wren on February 11, 2014 at 8:12 PM

It’s also time for the American people to enforce the laws our government won’t.

redware on February 11, 2014 at 8:15 PM

It may be time to start utilizing some walls.

Murphy9 on February 11, 2014 at 8:11 PM

We did….back before our King became King…

But it never got finished…

It’s just a distraction to our illegal guests…

“Free Food stamps”
and…
“Free Housing”
and…
“brought to you by Hope and Change”
advertizing all over the partially built existing wall…

Electrongod on February 11, 2014 at 8:17 PM

It may be time to start utilizing some walls.

Murphy9 on February 11, 2014 at 8:11 PM

I suggest walls around DC so we can contain the criminals there.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 8:18 PM

I searched and I couldn’t find the answer but what country in our world that just lets illegals come in and demand things.

phatfawzi on February 11, 2014 at 8:20 PM

“They are refusing to move on reform; thousands of families every week are broken apart because of the failure to move,” said Kica Matos, a spokeswoman for the Fair Immigration Reform Movement, a coalition behind much of the strategy.

Ms. Matos is wrong.

Any families that are broken apart due to deportations, are separated because some members of their own families chose to disrespect U.S. laws by entering our country ILLEGALLY.

The people who are to blame are the people who BROKE THE LAW.

People who break the law should be sent back to their home countries as fast as possible.

wren on February 11, 2014 at 8:21 PM

It would be nice if people new to America would respect what we have here. The reason they left wherever they came from (minus some possible terrorists) is because the system in their old country was broken. They come here, behave as they did in the old country or they think that because we have freedom, they can DEMAND more vs. work/earn more. Maybe they should try learning the language, understanding the Rule of Law (of course they will need to be taught), and learning our system.

We are not a multi-cultural nation, regardless what the left says. We are a place where the goals are ideal but also met – equality UNDER THE LAW. Still a land of opportunity – if their behavior is so bad that they are punished, they won’t get the opportunity to take advantage of what we have here.

It’s amazing – so many people come now and just demand. We all lose – they will, too. Demanding whatever you want is NOT what America is about. America is about education, work and EARNING your way.

Demands turn off more people to the cause than gaining supporters. Sure, the Dems will support whatever anarchy occurs, until it is used against them.

Hold firm, House. We must keep standards.

MN J on February 11, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Go to hell McCain, Graham, Rubio, Flake, Boehner, Ryan and Cantor, and all you bought off anti-American freaks.

VorDaj on February 11, 2014 at 8:28 PM

What it is time for is for citizens to start enforcing laws the federal government refuses to do. Gather them up, put them on buses and take them back to the border from which they illegally entered our country. Tell them if they come back they will be shot.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on February 11, 2014 at 8:30 PM

if the “Obama coalition” doesn’t hold for the next Democratic nominee, the left is in trouble.

If the next Democrat nominee is a cranky old white lady, you can expect the black vote to drop by 50%.

captnjoe on February 11, 2014 at 8:30 PM

It’s about time to start rounding up and deporting ILLEGALS too.

ConstantineXI on February 11, 2014 at 8:03 PM

I’m okay with that except for the Coyotes and the Trafficantes who rape the girls and women they bring across the border and/or pose a serious threat to my family and ranch personnel. These animals would love to be deported, but I prefer them to be transported instead, to their after-life, in Hell.

TXUS on February 11, 2014 at 8:31 PM

If the Vichy Republicans are upset about the in-your-face activism now, I can’t wait to hear their reactions to the guillotines …

ShainS on February 11, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Kudos to whomever put the smelling salts to Allahpundit! After that last article I thought he’d taken permanent leave of his senses.

DaMav on February 11, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Yes, people who intend to vote Democrat can really effectively threaten the Republican party by threatening to vote democrat if the Republicans don’t let them legally vote democrat.

oscarwilde on February 11, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Amnesty advocates = Bought and paid for by the anti-American Chamber of Commerce, aka the anti-American Chamber of Commerce Whores.

VorDaj on February 11, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Waste of time libs, Boehner already has a first edition copy of your xmas list and he’s out doing some early shopping.

antipc on February 11, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I guess the banning stick comes out if I swear, right?

Bottom line, amnesty advocates, I can’t be shamed. Go home and fix your home country then we’ll talk.

vityas on February 11, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Maybe Kica Matos needs a dose of her own medicine.

8 weight on February 11, 2014 at 8:37 PM

We have a lot of stone walls in the berkshires. They’re very charming and keep people at a distance. Think that might work on the southern border?

rik on February 11, 2014 at 8:38 PM

I can’t wait to hear their reactions to the guillotines …

ShainS on February 11, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Soon now our Lady of Justice will possess them
In her breathtaking hair-raising bed!
She will tingle each spine
As she captures each heart and each head!

VorDaj on February 11, 2014 at 8:39 PM

I can guarantee one thing, the hill RINO’s won’t fight on is Capitol Hill.

antipc on February 11, 2014 at 8:40 PM

vityas on February 11, 2014 at 8:36 PM

You are ashamed.You just don’t know it yet.

rik on February 11, 2014 at 8:41 PM

If they demonstrate and make nuisances of themselves it will only turn more people against them. I wonder how many are actual illegals and how many are rent-a-demonstrators.

I’ve wondered why more border states don’t do something about it themselves. I guess Arizona is to some extent but why can’t they put together their own border forces. I think it’s time to retreat and take the battle against the DC criminals to the states.

crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 8:42 PM

DaMav on February 11, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Over extrapolation

rik on February 11, 2014 at 8:43 PM

yah, those Mexicans, such natural conservatives. Is there any Latin country in the world that is not socialist? Latino culture controls about 30 countries in the world, and everyone is socialist. No exceptions. Where the people have the vote, the Latino people vote socialist.

Do the Republicans think they will vote differently in America?

HugoDrax on February 11, 2014 at 8:44 PM

antipc on February 11, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Sorry, wrong thread.

antipc on February 11, 2014 at 8:44 PM

I guess the banning stick comes out if I swear, right?

Bottom line, amnesty advocates, I can’t be shamed. Go home and fix your home country then we’ll talk.

vityas on February 11, 2014 at 8:36 PM

Oh you can swear, but be careful to what you swear to! ;)

Scrumpy on February 11, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Will they be satisfied when stormtroopers are beating people up in the streets?

claudius on February 11, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Sounds like a threat to me.

I’ve had it with their shite here in la raza land.

Go ahead. Inaugarate war.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Do the Republicans think they will vote differently in America?

HugoDrax on February 11, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Of course, this time will be different! We just need the right people to pass the right laws, and spend enough money to make it work! /GOPe

captnjoe on February 11, 2014 at 8:48 PM

As she captures each heart and each head!

VorDaj on February 11, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Heh.

It wouldn’t surprise though if we find they had no hearts to begin with …

ShainS on February 11, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Go ahead. Inaugarate war.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 8:46 PM

With ya wolly, my nerves are frayed and I am itching for a fight…

Scrumpy on February 11, 2014 at 8:50 PM

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canopfor on February 11, 2014 at 8:52 PM

“What we are now doing is to switch tactics from persuasion to punishment.”

So get ready to get your asses kicked!

GarandFan on February 11, 2014 at 8:52 PM

With ya wolly, my nerves are frayed and I am itching for a fight…

Scrumpy on February 11, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Don’t you dare start one without me! I wanna go to!

captnjoe on February 11, 2014 at 8:53 PM

So get ready to get your asses kicked!

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canopfor on February 11, 2014 at 8:53 PM

e wondered why more border states don’t do something about it themselves. I guess Arizona is to some extent but why can’t they put together their own border forces. I think it’s time to retreat and take the battle against the DC criminals to the states. crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 8:42 PM

We tried. Holder sued us and Brewer isn’t all some think.

We tried funding the fence through private donations as well, but you aren’t going to come up with billions like that..

You know what would work?

Guns. Armed citizens. We had the Minutemen,, but they were run by a sleazebag named chris cox. And zero fed support.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 8:53 PM

We tried. Holder sued us and Brewer isn’t all some think.

I’m sorry but why do you need the approval of the enemy?

crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 8:56 PM

yah, those Mexicans, such natural conservatives. Is there any Latin country in the world that is not socialist? Latino culture controls about 30 countries in the world, and everyone is socialist. No exceptions. Where the people have the vote, the Latino people vote socialist.

Do the Republicans think they will vote differently in America?

HugoDrax on February 11, 2014 at 8:44 PM

And it’s not at all just about what they experienced in their own countries. No. It’s about the low income immigrants coming to this country and planning to get their big piece of our pie’s redistribution. Um, it’s just not our job, to surrender our wealth, and our country, from the inside out, that’s the worst way to go.

anotherJoe on February 11, 2014 at 8:56 PM

with ya wolly, my nerves are frayed and I am itching for a fight… Scrumpy on February 11, 2014 at 8:50 PM

There’s one helluva lot of rocks for the barricades down here. At some point it all breaks down.

And there will be lead flying.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Hey, did anyone hear The Won talk about Alex de Tocqueville in his speech today. The guy is brilliant, and that goes for his whole well oiled, well paid staff to.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2014 at 8:59 PM

It’s also time for the American people to enforce the laws our government won’t.

redware on February 11, 2014 at 8:15 PM

What it is time for is for citizens to start enforcing laws the federal government refuses to do

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on February 11, 2014 at 8:30 PM

The fish rots from the head down. If Dog Eater doesn’t follow the laws why should anyone else?

Franklin100 on February 11, 2014 at 9:00 PM

I’ve wondered why more border states don’t do something about it themselves. I guess Arizona is to some extent but why can’t they put together their own border forces. I think it’s time to retreat and take the battle against the DC criminals to the states.

crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 8:42 PM

I’m guessing that the Drug Cartels have already bought off the politicians in the border states.

The American People are going to have to rise up and vote for a whole new set of politicians to solve the ILLEGAL immigration problem.

In the meantime, I am boycotting any business/restaurant that shows any signs of potentially hiring ILLEGAL aliens.

And I am asking every politician I see about their position on ILLEGAL immigration.

wren on February 11, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2014 at 8:59 PM

I’m so impressed.

crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM

I’m sorry but why do you need the approval of the enemy? crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Which enemy? The entire Executive branch? Or the Fed courts packed with hack life appointment progs?

The entire South tried it, and lost. What’s one State going to do?

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Amnesty advocates: It’s time for us to start shaming and punishing these Republicans for holding out

…as you saw today…they will lay down…for everything!

KOOLAID2 on February 11, 2014 at 9:06 PM

The entire South tried it, and lost. What’s one State going to do?

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Circle the wagons, stop doing business with them, batten down the hatches, civil disobedience.

crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 9:07 PM

The states have to take back their sovereignty. They have power constitutionally.

crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Hey, did anyone hear The Won talk about Alex de Tocqueville in his speech today. The guy is brilliant, and that goes for his whole well oiled, well paid staff to.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Cindy Munford: What speech where,..so I can hunt it down??!:)

canopfor on February 11, 2014 at 9:15 PM

If the next Democrat nominee is a cranky old white lady, you can expect the black vote to drop by 50%.

captnjoe on February 11, 2014 at 8:30 PM

When hell freezes over. Who are they going to vote for, a Republican?

Midas on February 11, 2014 at 9:18 PM

“We’re here illegally. If you don’t make us legal we’ll… do more illegal things!”

“And if you do, we’ll vote for your opponents and you’ll never be anything but powerless peasants, ever again!”

Someone should explain to this bunch that threats like these don’t get someone support in the U.S. Just very strange looks and then even more determination to kick said someone’s mangy a$$ out of the country.

“We Demand!” plus “”We will never stop hating you for not being us!” isn’t a winning combination anywhere, really.

Ask the PLO how well it’s worked for them over the years. Especially that whole “from the river to the sea” thing.

The concept of “we are here and we will hurt you- unless you give us what we demand so we can then legally hurt you more”, is so far removed from any sort of reality that it could only have come from the minds of delusional academics.

Which apparently accurately defines the actual leadership clique’ of these “activists”.

clear ether

eon

eon on February 11, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Hey, did anyone hear The Won talk about Alex de Tocqueville in his speech today. The guy is brilliant, and that goes for his whole well oiled, well paid staff to.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Seriously; ‘Alex’?

Midas on February 11, 2014 at 9:19 PM

The entire South tried it, and lost. What’s one State going to do?

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 9:05 PM

It has to start somewhere. Even if it is just one town in one state…standing alone and drawing a line in the sand; saying, “This far…and no further.”

Solaratov on February 11, 2014 at 9:19 PM

When hell freezes over. Who are they going to vote for, a Republican?

Midas on February 11, 2014 at 9:18 PM

They won’t even bother to go out to vote.

Solaratov on February 11, 2014 at 9:21 PM

“What we are now doing is to switch tactics from persuasion to punishment.”

Okay. Bring it.

Midas on February 11, 2014 at 9:23 PM

They won’t even bother to go out to vote.

Solaratov on February 11, 2014 at 9:21 PM

With the media reminding them daily that their entitlements are on the line, that Republicans want to put them back in chains, etc… ?

Nah, they’ll bother.

Besides, Hillary’s one of them, married to the first black president and all – and she “ain’t no ways tired”, and such.

Midas on February 11, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Shame them back by highlighting how they are taking bread from the mouths of American workers. We can play class war, too. :-D

Punchenko on February 11, 2014 at 9:29 PM

I want Senator Chucky Schumer (D – 1% Wall Street) to be shamed for kicking the teeth in of the American middle class.

Punchenko on February 11, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Union memberships have thrived on illegals.
However, they crossed a line with latinos when Unions invited Sleep With the Right People to swell the ranks.

bettycooper on February 11, 2014 at 9:34 PM

has to start somewhere. Even if it is just one town in one state…standing alone and drawing a line in the sand; saying, “This far…and no further.” Solaratov on February 11, 2014 at 9:19 PM

You’ll be fighting your own gubmint that has been stealing your money for 100 years. Building a prog fortress.

No doubt it will come, one way or the other.

Look at the populace. This isn’t the 1860′s. Or 1941. The free shite Army has recruited for a century. They think we are a pure democracy, and they vote to take ours.

It’s a different type of war, and I’m not convinced we win. Not with kmer rouge public education.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 9:36 PM

They don’t help their cause by coming into someone else’s house and peeing on the carpet.
People can understand that they want to be here to escape their home country’s problems and provide a future for their children.

Pickle on February 11, 2014 at 9:38 PM

But what about the upside for the GOP? If the GOP reduces the Democrats’ share of the Hispanic vote to 67 percent, Florida goes Republican. At 56 percent, New Mexico flips. Nevada and Colorado flip at 51 percent and 50 percent, respectively. Incidentally, Mitt Romney is still losing the Electoral College, 283 to 255. It isn’t until the Republicans win 63 percent of the Hispanic vote that Pennsylvania finally flips, handing Romney the presidency.

Republicans could do better with Hispanics, but they first have to stop looking at us as a single group that think alike. Do you really think that somebody from the “socialist paradise” of Venezuela have a lot in common with somebody from México or Puerto Rico? I bet they don’t.

Do you think that somebody from Colombia, who likely emigrated to the U.S. fleeing the violence of leftist terrorist group will be open to a targeted conservative message from the republicans? I’m willing to bet they do. Here are some back of the envelope numbers:

According to the pewhispanic.org, there are 259,000 Hispanics of Venezuelan origin in this country, 41% of whom live in Florida. Besides that, there are 972,000 Hispanics of Colombian origins in this country, and 34% of them live in Florida.

So we’re talking about 436,670 people, and let’s assume that only 50% of them vote in elections (in the last election, 58.2% of elegible voters participated in the elections). So we’re talking about 218,335 that are probably more open to a conservative message than the average Hispanic living in Florida… and Obama won that state in 2012 by only 74,309 votes.

Call me crazy, but if the republicans drop this nonsense about Hispanics only caring about amnesty (we don’t, by the way) and at the same time stop thinking about Hispanics as if we are a monolithic group, they will make a lot of progress where it really matters.

The big question is: will they learn their lessons?

ujorge on February 11, 2014 at 9:39 PM

ujorge on February 11, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Great comment. The GOP is foolish to treat the Hispanics as a monolithic group. The different countries from Mexico, Central and South America ebb and flow with their influence in various places in the US. It can change tomorrow, but today Bolivians have the lock on catering in DC. Move the map and find that…
Eritreans have the DC parking garage mafia for the moment.

bettycooper on February 11, 2014 at 9:49 PM

I think they maxed out on shaming a long way back

The RINOs are more afraid of the Zuckerberg Chamber of Commerce. That is what lit their tails on fire

However, before a primary, votes count more. The Zuckerberg Chamber has more money than votes.

After the primary, see who forgets their campaign promises

Imagine a world with Americans for a Conservative Zuckerberg Rubio Ryan work card. 20 million people ready to work the front counter at McDonalds, the cash registers at Walmart, the registration desk at the Marriott, and no Obamacare taxes needed. Paradise, so near

entagor on February 11, 2014 at 9:50 PM

I have a friend who always brings up his solution to the border which I like. Militarize it. Post watch towers with snipers along the border. Anyone coming across gets shot and the body lays there for others to see as they try to sneak on by. Pretty soon they will get the picture.

Problem solved. Do it on the Canadian border as well.

The Notorious G.O.P on February 11, 2014 at 9:51 PM

shame them back by highlighting how they are taking bread from the mouths of American workers. We can play class war, too. :-D Punchenko on February 11, 2014 at 9:29 PM

With what? Goebbels media? We have no soapbox. What do you think they are teaching in the public schools?

Generational brainwashing isn’t going away in some sudden epithany without one helluva lot of pain inducing it.

I mean a LOT of pain. History is replete with these resets.

Progressivism is the worst scourge we have ever faced. It’s all the evil of the last hundred years rolled up in to one.

It isn’t going to die an easy death.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 9:51 PM

Thank you to Allahpundit for using the word “amnesty” in the headline, but throughout the article they are referred to as “reform” or “immigration reform” advocates.

These people are illegal alien advocates, and that’s exactly how we should refer to them.

bluegill on February 11, 2014 at 9:54 PM

By calling these people “immigration activists” it makes it easy for them to say that anyone who opposes them is “anti-immigrant.”

WE ARE DEALING WITH ILLEGAL ALIEN AMNESTY ADVOCATES. PLEASE QUIT HELPING TO BLUR THE LINE BETWEEN LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

bluegill on February 11, 2014 at 9:56 PM

they don’t help their cause by coming into someone else’s house and peeing on the carpet. People can understand that they want to be here to escape their home country’s problems and provide a future for their children. Pickle on February 11, 2014 at 9:38 PM

This is true. Maybe they could start by waving American flags instead of Mexican flags at their protests. And forsake la raza.

But you know what??

They bring their socialism with them now.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Total Hispanic votes gained by a RINO sellout on Amnesty -0-
Total Republican votes lost by RINO sellot on Amnesty 2-3 million

It’s what they call in the Army “advancing to the rear.”

MaiDee on February 11, 2014 at 10:03 PM

it’s not true that the GOP’s best move is to pursue Latinos with targeted policies if those same policies cost them votes among whites.

And they’d still lose the Latino vote anyway.

ddrintn on February 11, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Hey, did anyone hear The Won talk about Alex de Tocqueville in his speech today. The guy is brilliant, and that goes for his whole well oiled, well paid staff to.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Cindy Munford: Found it:)
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White House transcript hides Obama’s chattering-class gaffe [VIDEO]
4:28 PM 02/11/2014
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VIDEO:(0:47)

White House officials have quietly changed an official transcript to hide President Barack Obama’s embarrassing historical error during his international press conference with French President Francois Hollande.

Obama’s error came when he misnamed Alexis de Tocqueville, a clear-eyed Frenchman who explained the subtle miracle of American culture and democracy in the 1830s. His book is a classic, partly because his insights about Americans’ social equality and civic society have become commonplace among centrists and conservatives.

But Obama called him “Alex” in front of the French and U.S. press, and while facing banks of TV cameras.

The White House’s official transcript, however, hides the presidential error by using the correct name. It now says that Obama declared: “Alexis de Tocqueville — that great son of France who chronicled our American democracy.”

Obama’s error was slight, but badly timed, partly because Obama is holding a state dinner for Hollande tonight.

Also, the error is an embarrassment for a president who claims to have been a constitutional scholar, and a judicious student of American history.

It’s also embarrassing for Obama’s many chattering-class supporters in politics, academia and the media, who have tried to portray Obama as exemplar of what they want to see in a president — a nuanced, reflective and careful thinker.(More…)
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http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/11/white-house-transcript-hides-obamas-chattering-class-gaffe/

canopfor on February 11, 2014 at 10:06 PM

If the GOP were devilishly cynical a la the Democrats, they should stoke black vs Latino resentment. Drive a wedge between two groups in the Dem plantation coalition.

ddrintn on February 11, 2014 at 10:07 PM

With what? Goebbels media? We have no soapbox. What do you think they are teaching in the public schools?

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 9:51 PM

We used to be able to count on allies in conservative media like hotair.com and Fox News and talk radio, etc. Of course, we still do have allies, but several high-profile media personalities like O’Reilly and Hannity (and Dobbs!) have gone soft, and smaller outlets like this site have also dropped the ball.

Think about how Michelle Malkin covered this issue versus the way this site covers it today. Guy Benson, Ed, Allah and MKH have all expressed support for amnesty, though Allah still considers himself a “border hawk.” Jazz seems to be only one left who hasn’t supported amnesty. When Jazz Shaw is the most conservative of the bunch on an issue, you know the site has problems. Why this site never hired another Malkin-style conservative is beyond me. Breitbart and other sites have been much better on this issue, and readers have rewarded them with higher traffic, as HotAir continues to fade.

We need more conservative advocacy journalism here and less establishment RINO types who seem more interested in being liked by celebrity liberal pundits than anything else.

bluegill on February 11, 2014 at 10:08 PM

These people are illegal alien advocates, and that’s exactly how we should refer to them.

What these “illegal alien advocates” don’t seem to realize (or more likely, they do but don’t care anyway) is that illegal immigration is a lose-lose proposition for everyone involved…with the exception of the human traffickers that make a ton of money bringing people across the border and corrupt political elites in Latin America who use this “process” as a escape valve for people they don’t want to help.

It is a human tragedy that desperate people are driven to come to this country illegally to escape poverty in their homeland. People die: in 2008, 97 people from the Dominican Republic boarded a small boat to try to cross to the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico and they were never seen again. Other just disappear trying to cross the southern border into the U.S. Women are sexually assaulted and worse, and those that want to “help” illegal aliens are making things worse.

You want to help? Put pressure on the source countries of illegal immigrations. The U.S. has a ton of leverage it can use. And here, we should confront those that are always trying to romanticeze illegal immigration and show them what an ugly reality it actually is.

ujorge on February 11, 2014 at 10:10 PM

You want to help? Put pressure on the source countries of illegal immigrations. The U.S. has a ton of leverage it can use. And here, we should confront those that are always trying to romanticeze illegal immigration and show them what an ugly reality it actually is.

ujorge on February 11, 2014 at 10:10 PM

I think ultimately we’re down to two choices, both of them unpalatable to many conservatives: legalization of immigrants already here concurrent with tightening the border (and let’s face it, we’re not going to get border security first), or open borders. I love Latinos, by the way. They are a natural constituency for a conservative political party. But many of them also love that freebies siren song of the proggie Dem party. As do too many Anglos.

ddrintn on February 11, 2014 at 10:13 PM

And they’d still lose the Latino vote anyway.
ddrintn on February 11, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Latinos are interested in the same things that everyone else is interested in; ie, economy, jobs. Why the ridiculous assumption that they are, as a whole, clamoring for illegal alien amnesty? Hispanic voters want immigration law enforcement and secure borders like everyone else. I think it was so insulting to equate “Hispanic” with illegal aliens.

Democrats are going to try to smear Republicans as racist on every issue, no matter what. Republicans should be standing for what is right.

Big business wants more cheap labor, even at the expense of current American workers, and the Democrat Party wants more voters. That’s all this is about. Illegal alien amnesty won’t win Republican votes.

bluegill on February 11, 2014 at 10:13 PM

If the GOP were devilishly cynical a la the Democrats, they should stoke black vs Latino resentment. Drive a wedge between two groups in the Dem plantation coalition.
ddrintn on February 11, 2014 at 10:07 PM

You are exactly right: http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/black-leaders-plan-dc-jobs-march-to-protest-illegal-alien-amnesty/

There is an off a lot of animosity between the two groups in Los Angeles, for example.

bluegill on February 11, 2014 at 10:18 PM

With what? Goebbels media? We have no soapbox. What do you think they are teaching in the public schools?

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 9:51 PM

When things get to this point doing nothing isn’t an option.

crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 10:19 PM

They are a natural constituency for a conservative political party.

ddrintn: no, we are not. I would love to tell you otherwise, but we can’t escape reality. And by the way, I keep using “Hispanic” or “Latino”, but we don’t call ourselves that way. I didn’t want to get into that, but is not only a question of semantics but of identity.

And that’s why I keep insisting that republicans need to sharpen their game and throw away the old book; the “hispanic vote” is an illusion and republicans need to look at the individual characteristic of every group to better market their ideas. Instead, they are tying to be “democrat lite” and that won’t sell…

ujorge on February 11, 2014 at 10:25 PM

I’m not sure they can’t pull off an election that gives the House back to the Democrats. The Republican leadership is so inept they just don’t know what to do about anything. I can see them completely screwing this deal up, when there is really no reason for the Democrats to win one election, let alone enough to win the House.

Immigration should be the easiest of all the things to come up with a plan for and selling. Not for this Congress. You have Boehner and company trying to figure out how to sneak amnesty through instead of coming up with a viable plan that all Republicans can get behind.

They just completely blew the debt limit increase, and that is because of Boehner. If the Republicans don’t replace Boehner, they just might lose the House because you don’t need to vote for Republicans who have no ideas and can’t win the simple battles.

bflat879 on February 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM

ujorge at 9:39 p.m. Huh? The Republicans should “drop this nonsense about Hispanics only caring about amnesty”? It is the darling media, whom you have obviously been listening to, that has spread this so far and wide that no one seriously questions it. And I am not taking about now, when Boehner & Co. have looked willing to cave

I guess you paid no attention when Boehner called the amnesty that Bush was trying so desperately to pass a “pile of s—”, and the Republicans in the House stopped it. If you were around at that time and following illegal immigration and amnesty, why did you and do you believe that about Republicans? For God’s sake, it is the conservative part of the base of the Republican Party that has been the ONLY group fighting against amnesty.

And Romney tried to appeal to Hispanics on the basis of the economy and jobs. So where was that big support of Hispanics of Republicans. When have Hispanics as any kind of a group EVER stood up and said they were not interested in amnesty? I look for it all the time, but it never happens. Maybe you want the R’s to pander, pander, pander as the Democrats do.

memyselfni on February 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Shaming a politician? Good luck with that.

Doomsday on February 11, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Maybe they could start by waving American flags instead of Mexican flags at their protests.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 10:00 PM

I would pay to see them making demands and waving Mexican flags in … … oh say … … China.

VorDaj on February 11, 2014 at 10:30 PM

I love Latinos, by the way. They are a natural constituency for a conservative political party.

ddrintn

That must be why most Latino countries embrace conservative policies so strongly, lol.

xblade on February 11, 2014 at 10:35 PM

Fremont, NE, US
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Voters decide to keep rental rules designed to limit illegal immigration in Fremont, Neb. – @AP
end of alert

canopfor on February 11, 2014 at 10:36 PM

When things get to this point doing nothing isn’t an option. crankyoldlady on February 11, 2014 at 10:19 PM

Boehner doesn’t plan on doing nothing.

What do you think is going to happen? Suddenly we are going to stop the prog putsche that started with Wilson? You have a plan to suddenly reverse a century of lost ground?

Man, I wish it was that easy, but it’s not.

A lot of people are going to die. It’s not some mystery. We’ve seen it before. Do you really understand how this has all come together? All of it?

I can’t type enough to put it all together for you.

Respectfully, I suggest you look at every mass conflaguration over the past century. Every caust of each one is hwppening now, all at the same time.

All of them.

Do something?? Yea… pray. Buy lead.

wolly4321 on February 11, 2014 at 10:44 PM

I love Latinos, by the way. They are a natural constituency for a conservative political party.

ddrintn on February 11, 2014 at 10:13 PM

I love Kate Upton, by the way. She is a natural choice to be my girlfriend….

Yet somehow, she hasn’t actually chosen to date me. Could it be that my premise that she is a “natural” choice to do that was incorrect?

J.S.K. on February 11, 2014 at 10:53 PM

I love Latinos, by the way. They are a natural constituency for a conservative political party.
ddrintn

I choose not to generalize when it comes to whom I like. I love good and patriotic people, regardless of race or ethnicity.

And let’s not forget that there is plenty of anti-white racism and Latino supremacist undertones in illegal alien advocacy. “La Raza” wasn’t named “La Raza” for no reason.

bluegill on February 11, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Also, the issue isn’t that they are “Latino” but that most of these illegal aliens are poor, unskilled people who often see the government as always needing to be there to help.

We have immigration standards for a reason, and we ought to be enforcing them.

bluegill on February 11, 2014 at 11:02 PM

And since there are still many more white voters than Latino ones, it’s not true that the GOP’s best move is to pursue Latinos with targeted policies if those same policies cost them votes among whites. The party ideally would run on a platform that appeals to both; amnesty is … probably not part of such a platform.

One would hope that the GOP would pay attention to that advice. Sadly, I think they’re banking on the base turning out regardless, in fear of socialist Democrats. But they’re wrong on this issue. It’s a deal-breaker. When a politician can’t be bothered to defend the physical security of the nation, what good is he to us? He might as well be a socialist Democrat at that point.

Murf76 on February 11, 2014 at 11:45 PM

We need more conservative advocacy journalism here and less establishment RINO types who seem more interested in being liked by celebrity liberal pundits than anything else.

bluegill on February 11, 2014 at 10:08 PM

I agree.

Also, the issue isn’t that they are “Latino” but that most of these illegal aliens are poor, unskilled people who often see the government as always needing to be there to help.

We have immigration standards for a reason, and we ought to be enforcing them.

bluegill on February 11, 2014 at 11:02 PM

I agree. Few things is more admirable than an honest, educated, hardworking, America-loving legal immigrant striving to make a life in the US.

BuckeyeSam on February 11, 2014 at 11:49 PM

What these advocate need to do is quit paying the Democrats that they already own, and increase the amount they are paying the RINOs that they are buying to be succesful.
They can buy the RINOS cheap, especially this election cycle.

John21 on February 12, 2014 at 7:30 AM

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